@whatsgoingon07 uncle tom tom? look up wtf Lincoln did pre-civil war to the sioux nation that basterd. and what was he more worried about? red ppl or how the europeans would veiw his original number of over 300 sioux to be hanged.
For example, contrary to the laws taught blacks to read and write, they are allowed to leave the estates and go wherever they please. And even at the meeting of their slaves, it seemed, for the white population represented the greatest danger, the slave-owners turned a blind eye.
Simultaneously, the position of those blacks who remained in captivity, changed for the better. True, the harsh laws that impose some restrictions on the provision of black slaves all kinds of privileges, formally still in force, but their white masters have long since ceased to comply with these laws.
Do not be a civil war and the reconstruction of the South, slavery would still have gone naturally. Thus, even in the 50s almost all the southern states grew the number of free blacks, of course, by reducing the number of black slaves. In South Carolina slaves were freed in 1860 was 30 463 person against 27 463 in the 50th. For Virginia, the same figures were respectively 58 042 54 333 against.
Do not be a civil war and the reconstruction of the South, slavery would still have gone naturally. Thus, even in the 50s almost all the southern states grew the number of free blacks, of course, by reducing the number of black slaves. In South Carolina slaves were freed in 1860 was 30 463 person against 27 463 in the 50th. For Virginia, the same figures were respectively 58 042 54 333 against.
There is NO SUCH THING as a half-breed human being. Stop using that term, please. French Cherokee is much, much nicer and even EXOTIC!! Law-de-law, ooh-lah-lah. And the Natives are NOT Indians - they're Native Canadians, Americans, Mexicans and so on. Just like the Irish are not Micks, the English are not limeys, the French are not frogs and so on. Sunday, May 29-2011.
my father was full blood Cherokee..I am a half breed, my mother was nationality was french...my ancestors fought for the for the confederate indian rebels and the confederacy....people who were taught about the civil war only in school, need to re-educate...the history books in schools are all lies...
Why are Native people anywhere - especially in the Americas - called Indians? They're not from India in the first place but they are probably chuffed (pleased) at being associated with that lovely sub-continent. Why not call them Native Canadians, Native Americans, Native Mexicans and so on?
The Indian Nations, including my anscestors fought against the yankees to spite them for screwing us and we showed little love for the states considering they were the ones who demanded the removal in the first place.
southerners and tsalagia were always allies they integraded marriages and southerners opposed the indian removal act and they hated the federal government
@MrTurkeybird09 not totally true considering it was the states demanding the tsalagi's removal in the first place to take the land, they were demanding federal removal and justification.
i am of cherokee saponi irish and african descent and i am proud to fly the confederate flag! and i live in ohio lmao and my great great great grandfather was john c brekinridge confederate general
@1waygang You are so right the governer of the boarder states of Mexico wanted to secede Northern Mexico and join the Confederate states.Mexico was a true supporter of the Confederacy.
I am 1/16 Cherokee and although I cant Say much for my own great great grandfather as he was a cowardly drunk that took to the way of a '60s draft dodger and ran when they said they were going to send him to the trenches during WWI but I hav nothing but admiration for the Cherokees that fought for the south in the civil war deo vindice
I am cherokee and white. My cherokee grandfather's last name was Thomas I wonder if his grandfather fought with the south. I might look this up. I love my ancestors both white, cherokee, and even jewish for creating me as I am.
they were stationed in the nc mountains. union troops feared them as they raided trough the mountains. the cherokees mostly guarded gaps and mountains during the war.
ALL Native American tribes had slaves, usually captured from other tribes, throughout the history of this land, long before white men ever showed up. Cherokees were perticularly fond of slavery, and had two divisions in the Confederate Army. There was also a Division of Texas Mexicans patroling the border of Texas protecting it from Yankee intruders.
Nevertheless Cherokees captured and kept slaves. I know what the Civil War was about. Slavery was a way of life all over the world. Lincoln had nightmares all his life from an incident of chained Africans being abused on a River Boat. Even so, he only freed slaves in states of rebellion, and not Union states. At the end of the War, U.S. Grant still had a personal man slave, and R.E. Lee had earlier freed all of his.
plus to the africans slavery was also part of there culture theres a book(sorry i forget its name)about a tibe leader who took and sold many africans to slave traders tell he himself was caught and sold by another tribe it was a way of live. not saying it was a good one but ( not u) people need to see that not only was it white people with slaves
@chadhub@chadhub whites had other white slaves in Europe and before America seceded from England there were lots of white english slaves here taken off the streets of big English cities and sent here to work. The feds want people to equate slavery with black people but that's wrong. it's an old economic system that knows no color. Even the Jews were slaves in Egypt.
lmao bridgell you go right ahead and read more federal BS in school then lee never owned slaves he was against it Gen lee even said it was imoral and by the way do your history it wasnt the confederate flag that was flown on those slave ships who brought them over here it was the union boats under the UNITED STATES FLAG that brought them here i am cherokee we have suffured more since the whiteman came here . love america or give it BACK!!!!
2006nationalchamps, I have more knowledge of history of the United States in my excrement than you will ever learn in your life, you are almost a complete moron, keep working at it. Yes, Lee had slaves, I also am part Cherokee, And ALL my ancestors were Confederates, and I still hate dirty, yellow-belly yankee scum ! I have studied the Civil War for fifty years, so get you facts straight, 2006nutjob.
@bridgell Lee was a realist, not only an ideologist. He freed his slaves before the war, that is known, and he also advised Jefferson to do the same. Has anyone investigated Gen. Grant that had slaves even up to the time he ran for President? Slavery was not the issue. But an excuse for Abe to rouse up support for his re-election in 1863.
Yes, Abe only freed the slaves in Rebel States, not Union States, so if the War of Federal Aggression was about slavery, why did Abe not free ALL slaves ???
@ConfederateBrave Italy helped us. Why would Italy fight for CSA slavery? Southern italy had thousands of troops they sent us. You can look that up on youtube. See some videos.
@ConfederateBrave THANK YOU...I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD DO A LITTLE RESEARCH and get the facts..thanks my brother....my great-great grandfather was half cherokee and fought for the confederacy...thanks for the video
@ConfederateBrave: Also, in the case of the Cherokees you have to remember that yes, they were native americans but they also absorbed a little of Appalachian culture, so when they were sent out west they felt it was the Union's doing, not their fellow Appalachians.
My father is a Cajun Civil War buff, and one who has become sympathetic to the mythical "Union" cause. The largely French Catholic population of South Louisiana, however, had neither Union nor Confederate sympathies. He pointed out that Cherokees were slave owners, although I'm not quite sure that had anything to do with their siding with the Confederacy. Are there any Indians out there who would respond to this charge, or otherwise explain the alliance with the CSA?
I know that the war was about taxes, what's your point? I've done a little more research, it seems the Indians picked the side which they thought would better serve their purposes (obviously), and they had no ideological cause in support of either side. I doubt they would have been treated any differently than the USA treated them had the CSA become independent.
and we still do my brother look up southern national congress on google i am 1/8th cherokee my grandfather was half and his mother was full i am a delegate for the snc and would love to have more of my cherokee brothers involved in this southern congress , its time we stood up to the federals and claimed our land back they havnt honored our treaties so we must stand and fight!
@ConfederateBrave The US at the time the south left (North and West) was 100% white. The only blacks they had had to be stolen or recruited from the south. The North has always been the seat of white supremacy. The only reason it ever spread southward is because we were divided up against each other. Fear breeds hate. When you've never seen a black man and all you know are rumors you will be very afraid of that which you do not know.
@ConfederateBrave Most Northerners would not send their children to a school that was over 50% black. There are none up north. They like their region the way it is. Other than a few big cities it's all white. New England is 98% white.
the yankees did and took what they wanted, they raped our southern women and burned our towns, and they massacared the indians,and raped their women also,
We declare that the truth of the war be told now by the Yankee Congress. It should be told on National TV.We will never give up state rights...commies will die. We will resist the NWO and any tyrannical government. We will defend freedom to the end and the meaning of The Constitution and our own State constitutions.Resist the lies spread my congress and their propaganda schools.
With one hand tied behind it's back? Commited war crimes played a major role during the war. I think you should read a book. Maybe if you did you will see how wrong you are about the Yankee empire being a superpower...
the man backrow third from left thatd be my uncle. Pvt. Levi Hamilton Ogle from tn, he was born in 1847 and enlisted at 15 years old in 1862 at sevierville tn. he lived through the war his father was a union soldier. he died in 1923
Hind site is 20/20. Lee was a Great man and General So were many others. Let us learn from their mistakes and correst them in the future.
When Lee said "Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomatox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand " He said it so we the future generation would learn from it. That is how great a man Lee was. Willing to admit his mistakes so we would not repeat them.May the South and Her Allies one day be free! DEO VINDICE
Grizlander your the smartest man on youtube. It would be an honor to take up Arms with you. This Shawnee stays loyal to those anti-federal sentiments.
The Native Americans had very good reason to fight for the Confederacy against a Federal government who had broken every treaty they had ever signed with them(not to mention major suffering inflicted). This same tyrannical gov't raised troops to invade it's own citizens.
from my understanding from a few other cherokes. that not all cherokees were supporter of the Confederates and some other cherokees join the Union. i'm not trying to run on your proud this. i've see the photo before and thought it was interesting. i know the Lumbee didn't like the Confederates. anyways, the photo is great.
The number of Cherokees that served for the Union was 3600. The number of Cherokees that fought on the Confederate side was over 10,000. This number does not include the Choctaw, Chickasaw,Creek,Seminole,Commanche and Osage who signed treaties with the Confederacy and fought also.
The Cherokee Mounted Rifles were the last Confederated soldiers to surrender. Long after Lee did. Gen. Waite was also Cherokee! 5 Indian Nations fought with the Confederacy!
Lee was wrong to surrender, he should have done as the Seminole did and we would have won!
"Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomatox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand " Robert E Lee
The time is NOW for the rebellion to rise again. Start spreading that word. These Federals are going to pay, with their blood if that's what they want to happen like Lincoln did.
Many people gave advice to Lee to continue the war in guerrilla style. Lee said no, it is over. Lee let his cavalry escape. Lee's men were starving. Lee did the best he could, outnumbered on every battlefield, the best general in my opinion.
Lee should have taken Stand Watie's(Cherokee Confederate Brigadier general) advice and keep on fighting. It is the will to fight and bravery that assured the Native Americans would never become slaves.
Stand Waite was not in Lee's position. Waite's men had not been in the Petersburg trenches and the hardships that happened there. Lee's men were walking on green corn, starving, outnumbered, it was over.
How is it that the Native Americans were in such a better position? Had they not fought also and experienced hardships? I guess they were walking in high cotton.LOL.
You said that the reason Lee surrendered was due to hardship."Outnumbered on every battlefield" everyone knows that the south was outnumbered during the entire war. Take a look at the population census of the day. Stand Watie's men were outnumbered also but they made up for this in cunning- much the same way Stonewall did.
They were fighting way out west, were there were very few Union armies. Your trying to compare that with Grant's AOP, the 10th and 18th Corps, 2 divisions of the 19th Corps and Sheridan's cavalry fighting just about everyday. Lee's men starved in the Petersburg trenches. On the retreat the provision never reached Lee's men and for at least 10 days they walked on green corn. It was over.
Lee himself stated that if he would have known the norths intent(reconstruction etc.) after signing the papers at Appottomax, that he would have never signed those papers. He should have taken cue from what had happened to the Native Americans every time they signed a treaty with the Federal gov't.
"They were fighting way out west". The Cherokee were not populated in the west. They are native to the South Appalachin area and gave the south the majority of their support. Their leaders signed treaties with the Confederacy. I dont doubt that they had fought in the west but still could have given support where needed. Retreat does not equal loss.
I personally don't care about the "side show" out west. I applaud Stand Waite's action out west, but I am a bit more busy with actions out here in the east.
@grizlander I can't say Lee was wrong but I can say I wouldn't have surrendered. I believe he did so with the best of intentions for his men. I also believe he took a heavy burden to his grave, one no other American can know. He was a great General for sure with very brave men under him, but as I'm sure he would agree, it wasn't God's will. On one hand I would like to know what Lee saw before Gettysburg and if at any point he realized before the fighting started that he was in trouble.
Dont let the name fool you. Im of German ancestry. My great grandfather was a German immigrant. His family settled in Alabama. He married a Cherokee lady. They were never rich just honest folks.His six brothers died for the South . They just wanted to be free and not oppressed. In my masters thesis I noted there were far more slaves in the North than the South. Chained to machines as kids for 5 cents a day.
I am proud of my ancestry both German and Cherokee.
Wonderful description you wrote to the upper left. So informative. I read it all and then watched the photo in your video. This is a very important video. There is much to learn here, for those who oppose the Confederacy.
he, i see some metis brothers in there, they were desperadoes man, throwing their lot with the confed. to see if they could obtain just a bit of sovereignty, only a leettle beet> jus' enough to give bread an' butter to their children
everyone has always claimed that the union soldier were the "good guys".
if that were true why did they burn atlanta and the university of alabama to the ground?
lightning267100 1 month ago
fuck abraham linconl! fuck you sick bastard! long live the Confederate States of America! Rise everybody your flags!!
genishtora 4 months ago
what's the cherokee word for uncle Tom?
whatsgoingon07 4 months ago
@whatsgoingon07 uncle tom tom? look up wtf Lincoln did pre-civil war to the sioux nation that basterd. and what was he more worried about? red ppl or how the europeans would veiw his original number of over 300 sioux to be hanged.
BayouBoy666 4 days ago
For example, contrary to the laws taught blacks to read and write, they are allowed to leave the estates and go wherever they please. And even at the meeting of their slaves, it seemed, for the white population represented the greatest danger, the slave-owners turned a blind eye.
TheBlackSkif 5 months ago
Simultaneously, the position of those blacks who remained in captivity, changed for the better. True, the harsh laws that impose some restrictions on the provision of black slaves all kinds of privileges, formally still in force, but their white masters have long since ceased to comply with these laws.
TheBlackSkif 5 months ago
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Do not be a civil war and the reconstruction of the South, slavery would still have gone naturally. Thus, even in the 50s almost all the southern states grew the number of free blacks, of course, by reducing the number of black slaves. In South Carolina slaves were freed in 1860 was 30 463 person against 27 463 in the 50th. For Virginia, the same figures were respectively 58 042 54 333 against.
TheBlackSkif 5 months ago
Do not be a civil war and the reconstruction of the South, slavery would still have gone naturally. Thus, even in the 50s almost all the southern states grew the number of free blacks, of course, by reducing the number of black slaves. In South Carolina slaves were freed in 1860 was 30 463 person against 27 463 in the 50th. For Virginia, the same figures were respectively 58 042 54 333 against.
TheBlackSkif 5 months ago
Don`t forget the Cherokee Lincoln Killers.
spacegasp 5 months ago
fuck abraham Lincoln...murdering commi bastard
UFOsaucer1 6 months ago
I Am Cheroke And German,Irish.
Buy Mostly Cheroke, I Am Very Tan My Dad Is Really Tan And My Uncle Fred Is Really Tan Redskin Looks Like A Cheif.
My Great Grandmother Was Cheroke Princess.
613Joker420 6 months ago
There is NO SUCH THING as a half-breed human being. Stop using that term, please. French Cherokee is much, much nicer and even EXOTIC!! Law-de-law, ooh-lah-lah. And the Natives are NOT Indians - they're Native Canadians, Americans, Mexicans and so on. Just like the Irish are not Micks, the English are not limeys, the French are not frogs and so on. Sunday, May 29-2011.
squirell1952 9 months ago
my father was full blood Cherokee..I am a half breed, my mother was nationality was french...my ancestors fought for the for the confederate indian rebels and the confederacy....people who were taught about the civil war only in school, need to re-educate...the history books in schools are all lies...
zombie2wo 9 months ago
Why are Native people anywhere - especially in the Americas - called Indians? They're not from India in the first place but they are probably chuffed (pleased) at being associated with that lovely sub-continent. Why not call them Native Canadians, Native Americans, Native Mexicans and so on?
DESMOND, SOUTHERN IRELAND.
squirell1952 9 months ago
@squirell1952 Because at the time when people first landed in what is now called the USA they thought they were in India.
Epica124 9 months ago
@squirell1952 I call them natives, whoever is native to whatever place I'm talking about I call "the natives".
Hashishin13 6 months ago
The Indian Nations, including my anscestors fought against the yankees to spite them for screwing us and we showed little love for the states considering they were the ones who demanded the removal in the first place.
lion3p0 9 months ago
southerners and tsalagia were always allies they integraded marriages and southerners opposed the indian removal act and they hated the federal government
MrTurkeybird09 11 months ago
@MrTurkeybird09 not totally true considering it was the states demanding the tsalagi's removal in the first place to take the land, they were demanding federal removal and justification.
lion3p0 9 months ago
this war not slavery never was to make it clear how many coloreds fought for the confederacy 100000 freeman and spaniards
my family was scotirish and many other gaelic people
and my cousins were cherokee white people integrated into the tribe born bred and fierce warriors
micknm 1 year ago
God Bless the soul of Stand Waitie! Deo Vindice!
ke4bss 1 year ago
i wish no one ever dicovered the americas so we thrive as before
bobdull123 1 year ago
i am of cherokee saponi irish and african descent and i am proud to fly the confederate flag! and i live in ohio lmao and my great great great grandfather was john c brekinridge confederate general
robisgangsta1 1 year ago
this makes me proud to be part cherokee!
brianredneckct 1 year ago
trail of tears....i am a proud creek and i fly a confederate flag
kylebutler666 1 year ago
@kylebutler666 Stand strong, red brother. Osage, here. :)
dreadedcrow16 1 year ago
mexico was also supporter of the confederatcy
type confederates in mexico if you dont beleave me....
1waygang 1 year ago
@1waygang You are so right the governer of the boarder states of Mexico wanted to secede Northern Mexico and join the Confederate states.Mexico was a true supporter of the Confederacy.
MexicanConfederate 1 year ago
Deo Vindice
1xtiger 2 years ago
Most of my family fought for the CS, some with Waite. Cherokees know who he was. Whites don't. Western tribe.
ChiefOren 2 years ago
@ChiefOren
Waite was a hell of a fighter n planner he was asked to raid in Ok,Kan.Mizz,and Ar
crazybear53 1 year ago
Now that is a piece of history not told in schools ! cool
Atlantaminuteman 2 years ago
Most interesting, knew the Cherokee Nation fought with the CS.
I'm a native of NC ( & WBTS buff), but didn't know that the 69th NC was the "Junaluska Zouaves".
Thanks for posting this!
Pillboxesghost 2 years ago
I am 1/16 Cherokee and although I cant Say much for my own great great grandfather as he was a cowardly drunk that took to the way of a '60s draft dodger and ran when they said they were going to send him to the trenches during WWI but I hav nothing but admiration for the Cherokees that fought for the south in the civil war deo vindice
AussieFan94 2 years ago
I am cherokee and white. My cherokee grandfather's last name was Thomas I wonder if his grandfather fought with the south. I might look this up. I love my ancestors both white, cherokee, and even jewish for creating me as I am.
NewRevolutionLeader 2 years ago
I love the Native people of this land.
Shame how my Federaly Occupide country has treated your people these few hundred years.
the South owes you boys alot of gratitude.,
thank u
ExecutorJoe 2 years ago 3
they were stationed in the nc mountains. union troops feared them as they raided trough the mountains. the cherokees mostly guarded gaps and mountains during the war.
jamezpackerfan 2 years ago 2
god bless the my people and my grandfathers people the cherokee. God bless texas!
XtremeWeatherr 2 years ago
GOD BLESS, DIXIE
& ALL That Fought For Her!
Issues! Not Race!
rebelstang 2 years ago
God Bless General Stand Waite! God Bless The Cherokee Braves! God Bless The Five Tribes! And God Bless Dixie! Deo Vindice!
darthroden 2 years ago 3
ALL Native American tribes had slaves, usually captured from other tribes, throughout the history of this land, long before white men ever showed up. Cherokees were perticularly fond of slavery, and had two divisions in the Confederate Army. There was also a Division of Texas Mexicans patroling the border of Texas protecting it from Yankee intruders.
bridgell 3 years ago
It had nothing to do with slavery. It had to do with Independence/not wanting to be a part of the US.
ConfederateBrave 3 years ago 9
Nevertheless Cherokees captured and kept slaves. I know what the Civil War was about. Slavery was a way of life all over the world. Lincoln had nightmares all his life from an incident of chained Africans being abused on a River Boat. Even so, he only freed slaves in states of rebellion, and not Union states. At the end of the War, U.S. Grant still had a personal man slave, and R.E. Lee had earlier freed all of his.
bridgell 3 years ago
plus to the africans slavery was also part of there culture theres a book(sorry i forget its name)about a tibe leader who took and sold many africans to slave traders tell he himself was caught and sold by another tribe it was a way of live. not saying it was a good one but ( not u) people need to see that not only was it white people with slaves
chadhub 2 years ago
@chadhub @chadhub whites had other white slaves in Europe and before America seceded from England there were lots of white english slaves here taken off the streets of big English cities and sent here to work. The feds want people to equate slavery with black people but that's wrong. it's an old economic system that knows no color. Even the Jews were slaves in Egypt.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
lmao bridgell you go right ahead and read more federal BS in school then lee never owned slaves he was against it Gen lee even said it was imoral and by the way do your history it wasnt the confederate flag that was flown on those slave ships who brought them over here it was the union boats under the UNITED STATES FLAG that brought them here i am cherokee we have suffured more since the whiteman came here . love america or give it BACK!!!!
2006nationalchamps 2 years ago
2006nationalchamps, I have more knowledge of history of the United States in my excrement than you will ever learn in your life, you are almost a complete moron, keep working at it. Yes, Lee had slaves, I also am part Cherokee, And ALL my ancestors were Confederates, and I still hate dirty, yellow-belly yankee scum ! I have studied the Civil War for fifty years, so get you facts straight, 2006nutjob.
bridgell 2 years ago
@bridgell Lee freed all his slaves tons of years before 1860. He was against it. he was pro union until lincoln decided to wage war on Americans.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
@bridgell Lee was a realist, not only an ideologist. He freed his slaves before the war, that is known, and he also advised Jefferson to do the same. Has anyone investigated Gen. Grant that had slaves even up to the time he ran for President? Slavery was not the issue. But an excuse for Abe to rouse up support for his re-election in 1863.
ChiefOren 2 years ago
Yes, Abe only freed the slaves in Rebel States, not Union States, so if the War of Federal Aggression was about slavery, why did Abe not free ALL slaves ???
bridgell 2 years ago
@2006nationalchamps All from Yankee states I might add.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
@ConfederateBrave Italy helped us. Why would Italy fight for CSA slavery? Southern italy had thousands of troops they sent us. You can look that up on youtube. See some videos.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@ConfederateBrave THANK YOU...I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD DO A LITTLE RESEARCH and get the facts..thanks my brother....my great-great grandfather was half cherokee and fought for the confederacy...thanks for the video
billyrayvalentine44 1 year ago
@ConfederateBrave: Also, in the case of the Cherokees you have to remember that yes, they were native americans but they also absorbed a little of Appalachian culture, so when they were sent out west they felt it was the Union's doing, not their fellow Appalachians.
PooPoo2U 1 year ago
@ConfederateBrave So what was the Confederacy going to do with their slaves after they were independent ?
zipsrule 5 months ago
@bridgell But slavery was very different over here, chattel slavery was a particularly american invention.
RoyalKnightVII 10 months ago
@bridgell Can you remind me again which African tribes sold other Africans into slavery and which African tribes owned more slaves than others?
gunforme 6 months ago
My father is a Cajun Civil War buff, and one who has become sympathetic to the mythical "Union" cause. The largely French Catholic population of South Louisiana, however, had neither Union nor Confederate sympathies. He pointed out that Cherokees were slave owners, although I'm not quite sure that had anything to do with their siding with the Confederacy. Are there any Indians out there who would respond to this charge, or otherwise explain the alliance with the CSA?
byron84 3 years ago
your totally misled the war was all about taxes...not slaves!!!
matthighlife 3 years ago
I know that the war was about taxes, what's your point? I've done a little more research, it seems the Indians picked the side which they thought would better serve their purposes (obviously), and they had no ideological cause in support of either side. I doubt they would have been treated any differently than the USA treated them had the CSA become independent.
byron84 3 years ago
We had representatives in Confederate Congress unlike in the USA. We also were recognized as an Independent Nation State.
ConfederateBrave 3 years ago
and we still do my brother look up southern national congress on google i am 1/8th cherokee my grandfather was half and his mother was full i am a delegate for the snc and would love to have more of my cherokee brothers involved in this southern congress , its time we stood up to the federals and claimed our land back they havnt honored our treaties so we must stand and fight!
2006nationalchamps 2 years ago
@ConfederateBrave The US at the time the south left (North and West) was 100% white. The only blacks they had had to be stolen or recruited from the south. The North has always been the seat of white supremacy. The only reason it ever spread southward is because we were divided up against each other. Fear breeds hate. When you've never seen a black man and all you know are rumors you will be very afraid of that which you do not know.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 Frederick Douglas rails about the hell he went through up north. Nobody reads anymore.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@ConfederateBrave Most Northerners would not send their children to a school that was over 50% black. There are none up north. They like their region the way it is. Other than a few big cities it's all white. New England is 98% white.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@ConfederateBrave The south was the first region of the country to recognize diversity. Black, White, Native American, all fought for their country.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@byron84 The US killed them all when they won. Indians knew what side would support them. Not the pro white US.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
no not true they blamed the yanks for what happend to there land hail granemo confederate cherokee
Greatwhiteninja123 1 year ago
the yankees did and took what they wanted, they raped our southern women and burned our towns, and they massacared the indians,and raped their women also,
pscho69 3 years ago 7
We were not "coerced" into siding with the CSA you idiot. We gained full INDEPENDENCE AND FREEDOM FROM THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON OCTOBER 28, 1861!
Try reading the: Declaration by the People of the Cherokee Nation of the Causes
Which Have Impelled Them to Unite Their Fortunes With Those of the
Confederate States of America."
You might learn or thing or two.
Any Tsalagi that doesn't want Independence should just be left behind!
ConfederateBrave 3 years ago
Deo Vindice!! God Bless the Cherokee Braves!! Ya know I saw the Declaration and was shocked that I never heard it taught in school.
Lindyblu 3 years ago 3
that's cause us Cherokee's are pretty damn smart
PinkysHouse 3 years ago 3
I got your back in this.
Jayboy671 3 years ago 2
Death before Dishonor
RetrieveGuns 3 years ago 3
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American by Birth
Southern by the Grace of God,
and a Rebel by chioce.
Stockpiling since 1865.
We declare that the truth of the war be told now by the Yankee Congress. It should be told on National TV.We will never give up state rights...commies will die. We will resist the NWO and any tyrannical government. We will defend freedom to the end and the meaning of The Constitution and our own State constitutions.Resist the lies spread my congress and their propaganda schools.
RetrieveGuns 3 years ago
With one hand tied behind it's back? Commited war crimes played a major role during the war. I think you should read a book. Maybe if you did you will see how wrong you are about the Yankee empire being a superpower...
dalejrfan800 3 years ago 3
im part Cherokee and my Cherokee grandpa fought for the south and i hang the stars and bars with 15 stars representing the Cherokee nations
Robconfederatepride 3 years ago 4
my cherokee great great uncle faught as a cherokee confederate out of north carolina
nativeman65 3 years ago 23
nativeman65:From Nolta Township/Cherokee North Carolina?
Lindyblu 3 years ago
@nativeman65 - I have ancestors in several Cherokee units.
AlienZygote010 11 months ago
the man backrow third from left thatd be my uncle. Pvt. Levi Hamilton Ogle from tn, he was born in 1847 and enlisted at 15 years old in 1862 at sevierville tn. he lived through the war his father was a union soldier. he died in 1923
mattbywcbcs55 3 years ago 7
Hind site is 20/20. Lee was a Great man and General So were many others. Let us learn from their mistakes and correst them in the future.
When Lee said "Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomatox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand " He said it so we the future generation would learn from it. That is how great a man Lee was. Willing to admit his mistakes so we would not repeat them.May the South and Her Allies one day be free! DEO VINDICE
grizlander 3 years ago 7
Grizlander your the smartest man on youtube. It would be an honor to take up Arms with you. This Shawnee stays loyal to those anti-federal sentiments.
lyden2006 3 years ago 7
The Native Americans had very good reason to fight for the Confederacy against a Federal government who had broken every treaty they had ever signed with them(not to mention major suffering inflicted). This same tyrannical gov't raised troops to invade it's own citizens.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago
I agree with you on your statements in this post.
rebel2276 3 years ago
from my understanding from a few other cherokes. that not all cherokees were supporter of the Confederates and some other cherokees join the Union. i'm not trying to run on your proud this. i've see the photo before and thought it was interesting. i know the Lumbee didn't like the Confederates. anyways, the photo is great.
klakgogs 4 years ago
The number of Cherokees that served for the Union was 3600. The number of Cherokees that fought on the Confederate side was over 10,000. This number does not include the Choctaw, Chickasaw,Creek,Seminole,Commanche and Osage who signed treaties with the Confederacy and fought also.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago
I am a Loyal Shawnee with some German blood too.
I am and always will be a Confederate.
lyden2006 4 years ago 2
visit texasconfederateveterans dot com
michaelshays 4 years ago 2
visit texasconfederateveterans dot com
michaelshays 4 years ago 2
Long live the COnfederacy, I am a Cherokee Confederate
swampboy32904 4 years ago 3
Deo Vindice!
Tsalagi123 4 years ago 3
The Cherokee Mounted Rifles were the last Confederated soldiers to surrender. Long after Lee did. Gen. Waite was also Cherokee! 5 Indian Nations fought with the Confederacy!
Lee was wrong to surrender, he should have done as the Seminole did and we would have won!
"Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomatox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand " Robert E Lee
Remember that next go around!
DEO VINDICE!
grizlander 4 years ago 20
Yep--a gorilla war could have bled the north dry!!
nomadak47 4 years ago 3
The time is NOW for the rebellion to rise again. Start spreading that word. These Federals are going to pay, with their blood if that's what they want to happen like Lincoln did.
lyden2006 4 years ago 2
Many people gave advice to Lee to continue the war in guerrilla style. Lee said no, it is over. Lee let his cavalry escape. Lee's men were starving. Lee did the best he could, outnumbered on every battlefield, the best general in my opinion.
rebel2276 3 years ago
Lee should have taken Stand Watie's(Cherokee Confederate Brigadier general) advice and keep on fighting. It is the will to fight and bravery that assured the Native Americans would never become slaves.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago
Yes Lee was a great general.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago
Stand Waite was not in Lee's position. Waite's men had not been in the Petersburg trenches and the hardships that happened there. Lee's men were walking on green corn, starving, outnumbered, it was over.
rebel2276 3 years ago
How is it that the Native Americans were in such a better position? Had they not fought also and experienced hardships? I guess they were walking in high cotton.LOL.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago
If anyone in here feels Lee's men had it better then Stand Waite's men, speak up.
rebel2276 3 years ago 2
You said that the reason Lee surrendered was due to hardship."Outnumbered on every battlefield" everyone knows that the south was outnumbered during the entire war. Take a look at the population census of the day. Stand Watie's men were outnumbered also but they made up for this in cunning- much the same way Stonewall did.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago 3
They were fighting way out west, were there were very few Union armies. Your trying to compare that with Grant's AOP, the 10th and 18th Corps, 2 divisions of the 19th Corps and Sheridan's cavalry fighting just about everyday. Lee's men starved in the Petersburg trenches. On the retreat the provision never reached Lee's men and for at least 10 days they walked on green corn. It was over.
rebel2276 3 years ago 3
Lee himself stated that if he would have known the norths intent(reconstruction etc.) after signing the papers at Appottomax, that he would have never signed those papers. He should have taken cue from what had happened to the Native Americans every time they signed a treaty with the Federal gov't.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago 4
"They were fighting way out west". The Cherokee were not populated in the west. They are native to the South Appalachin area and gave the south the majority of their support. Their leaders signed treaties with the Confederacy. I dont doubt that they had fought in the west but still could have given support where needed. Retreat does not equal loss.
wilfredsnipple 3 years ago 2
I personally don't care about the "side show" out west. I applaud Stand Waite's action out west, but I am a bit more busy with actions out here in the east.
Thank you
rebel2276 3 years ago 2
@grizlander I can't say Lee was wrong but I can say I wouldn't have surrendered. I believe he did so with the best of intentions for his men. I also believe he took a heavy burden to his grave, one no other American can know. He was a great General for sure with very brave men under him, but as I'm sure he would agree, it wasn't God's will. On one hand I would like to know what Lee saw before Gettysburg and if at any point he realized before the fighting started that he was in trouble.
gunforme 6 months ago
Good video Subscribe to me and i will subscribe back.Confederate Heritage,History,and Culture never any Hate.Dixie our Southern Home "DEO VINDICE"
southernhistory 4 years ago 2
karlschlaussen
Dont let the name fool you. Im of German ancestry. My great grandfather was a German immigrant. His family settled in Alabama. He married a Cherokee lady. They were never rich just honest folks.His six brothers died for the South . They just wanted to be free and not oppressed. In my masters thesis I noted there were far more slaves in the North than the South. Chained to machines as kids for 5 cents a day.
I am proud of my ancestry both German and Cherokee.
Deo Vindice
karlschlaussen 4 years ago 2
Wonderful description you wrote to the upper left. So informative. I read it all and then watched the photo in your video. This is a very important video. There is much to learn here, for those who oppose the Confederacy.
RiverBirch1967 4 years ago 3
cool man 5 Stars!
HeritageNotHateProd 4 years ago 2
he, i see some metis brothers in there, they were desperadoes man, throwing their lot with the confed. to see if they could obtain just a bit of sovereignty, only a leettle beet> jus' enough to give bread an' butter to their children
OrgManeuvDark 4 years ago 4
awsome
csapatriot 4 years ago 5