Cleric serve a HIGHER POWER (fuck you masons) that everyone believes in around the world and all these figures around the world have a relation with that are actually FRIENDs in a way.
Not what you think.
I admit it, Im ready to become a "Cleric". Cleris do have alot of POWER but they cant just go out and do all this shit left and right on what Im thinking about, no Im not talking about killing people. Like I aid below, they have an "UNDERSTANDING" of LIFE?
These are all PRAETORIANs or TEMPLAR KNIGHTs looked at as Papal Elite Guards skilled in everything from micromanagement to warfare to relations and have an UNDERSTANDING of LIFE as if they are monks or priests.
There is no way to predict combat unless you're telepathic -- and to that end, regardless of what you may have seen on TV or in street performances, telepathy doesn't exist either -- and gun kata relies entirely on predicting what your enemy will be doing. What's worse, is that they do this without even looking either down their sights or at the enemies they're shooting at.
This is A MOVIE filled with MOVIE lore and MOVIE bad guys that never had a lick of any formal combat training.
@Excedrine They also never take into account that gun shots are excruciatingly loud. Even a .22 Long Rifle measures well over 150 dB at the muzzle, and OSHA standards dictate that any event over 140 dB can cause instant, permanent hearing damage.
So, to stand there and pop shots by each other's ears without hearing protection is just dumb. But hey, it is a MOVIE. Against any formally trained combatant, these MOVIE characters wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell in a real gunfight. :)
Let me explain something to all you newfags on here. The point of Gun-Kata is not to dodge bullets. That is impossible. But the point is to move faster than the enemies mind could possibly react. Example would be a person aims his rifle at your stomach. You know this, because that is the calculation you have made. Now as he is about to press the trigger, you move. Now that you have already moved, he pulls the trigger after you moved, causing him to shoot the wall. Then you shoot him.
Well you naysayers I have used the gun kata, with deadly results. So you see it does work. But you must mix in some Tai Chi to do it. It balances the mind and sharpens the reflexes.
Statistics, folks. The Gun Kata is not about dodging every bullet, Matrix-like. It is about knowing how group awareness works in groups of gunmen; what kinds of angles of fire and covering fire they are *likely* to take, what regions of your body they are *likely* to aim at from what *likely* firing positions. It is not about certainty, just probability. The Cleric isn't processing anything when using the Gun Kata. He is moving through a series of rote maneuvers,
The thing about gun-kata is that in Equilibrium, Preston's full-auto Beretta things would have to somehow have octuple-stacked magazines in order for him to kill that many people or fire that many shots without reloading. You'd need a pair of submachine guns with very large magazines in order to even attempt pulling something like that off.
@AntiHero1317 I know, I've watched the movie multiple times. He only actually uses those devices once throughout the entire film. And yes, I know it's just a movie, and a great one at that, but....I like poking fun at stuff like this haha. John Woo is one of my favorite directors, and....yeah...Hardboiled. I don't think I need to say anything further.
Utilizing gun-kata as your preferred fighting style means you must position yourself in a location that will lessen your enemies field of fire.
Meaning, staying in a position where your enemies will have to suppress fire if you change your stance, such as courching, leaning back, etc. wherein 1 of your enemies will be pointing his gun at his ally rendering him unable to decide wether to shoot or not.
The basic principle is. Use your advantage as a 1 man army
I would have to say based on my experience firing guns. Shooting birds of course, and me and my friends would also play with our fake-pistols around our house.
The thing is, if there are a lot of you in a team or group, considering you are all allies and all of you are fighting 1 man. Accuracy is needed because you might shoot at your own teammate which is known as FriendlyFire.
That is what Gun-Kata is about. The study of the trajectories of a group of gun men. To dodge their bullets.
This could work if the sample-size of recorded gunfights is large enough to account for random chance, also, the shooter would have to be a biological machine in order to memorize all that data and then execute each motion according to the firing position of the person shooting at him, not to mention the fear factor that would have to be suppressed, and that the enemy could start spraying bullets at any time and end the fight that way.
Gunkata could work in theory in regards to hand-to-hand pistol duelling, but it's highly unlikely that two combatants would get close enough to each other to cross barrels (after all, the whole point of a firearm is NOT to get close to your adversary).
@Xanatos712 Not that I disagree, what you are saying is true. There is, however, a time where this style can come in handy. If you were in a closed, confind locatiion, such as a storage room, a low lighting corner store, a school liberary, abandoned apartment floor, basically any place dull or dark where distance combat and steath isn't an option, Gun Kata can allow one to get point blank and out of the enemy's firing range, dispatch them, and get out of the way before the next shot hat them.
Its a great idea but personally I think its bollocks,Pistol encounters are by the nature of the weapon done at close range,you don`t need or have time for fancy footwork or body movements,what you need is a sure draw and fast accurate shooting.
I remember seeing a show, a while back, on a mathmatician that predicted two dancers moves almost exactly before they moved... so yes, it could be possible.. maybe not quite as cool as in the movie.. but it's possible
lol you cant predict somthing like this what knowladge would you back it up with he has a gun? how do you know how or where he will shoot it just a buncha bull shit words that apeal to dumb fucks who dont understand shit atleast the matrix had an interesting story this is just bull shit.
The simple, practical myth busting evidence: most people who survived gunfights (not the word "survived" it's not "won") did so by taking cover; not dodging bullets.
@iLuckyyy Yes, Bruce Lee created the Concept of Jeet Kune Do specifically to combat predictability with Martial Arts. Each style has it's own Kata and sequences. Certain types of moves and combos. Quite simply, for an expert of Tae Kwon Do, it is easy to read and predict the movements of a fellow user. What Bruce Lee wanted for people who study Martial Arts is to learn as many different types as you can and blend them into your own style, to eliminate predictability.
1) position of opponents is dependent on the terrain and the location of cover, which is not possible to blindly predict.
2) Trajectory of bullets is also dependent on not only terrain and cover, but also on the skill of the shooter, and the number of shooters, which is also impossible to predict.
3) Even if #1 and #2 were possible, it would require the Cleric to be able to calculate and position himself accordingly, changing the kata until it's not a kata at all anymore,
it never says its perfect you pedantic wanker, its a martial ART for guns instead of sticks and swords. i bet when the first warrior monk started training with a stick there was some stupid cunt saying, oh but it dosent matter because it depends on 1. how good your opponent is and how big his stick is.... yawn
just fuck off with your high waisted trouseryness, go spot some trains instead. its a good concept your just too fucking retarded to understand.
HHAHAHAHA ok whatever you go believe whatever you want, I'll be at the gun range I bet you watch japanese cartoon sword fights and think that's real, too
It is a very cool concept indeed but alas this will always be a concept, in a combat situation it is impossible to know the trajectories of every round fired off by one person and then the same for his buddies. I could understand one or maybe two opponents but 5+? Come on, you would need real-time calculation power in under a second to be able to work out every position and angle you are safe at; and not only that you have to bring everything into account not just the weapon. Fun but silly :)
It's an impressive piece of unabased, no holds barred, utter bollocks. A triumph of meaningless blather, on a par with the Architect's "you are the eventuality of an anomaly" spiel.
But come on, this is about as believable as the idea that you can train yourself to fly by religiously flapping your arms every day.
@M1chl42 But was anyone shooting back at you at the time? *grin* Its a very cool movie concept, and visually excellent, but I wouldnt think it would work well "in the real world".
This film is so underrated because the other half of the population (Women) are into emotions so when theres a film about not having emotions then they'll go stick some crap on like titanic and cry to that for 2 hours.
@Configurations OI! not all women are airheaded weak crybabies. I seriously take great exception to such a stereotype that is only foisted on your mind by commercialists.
Theoretically it is possible, assuming a machine is doing it. Shooting trajectories are predictable, a guy behind a barrel will shoot you from behind that barrel. But for a maximum number of opponents like it's shown in that demo, a man would need eyes at the back and sides of his head and a targeting system. So I'd say, practically it's fiction.
You could probably dodge one or two bullets if you were well trained. But even that's very risky, and you better hope you can disable them in that time frame.
Dodging multiple sources of gunfire like that is almost laughable. Not only would each shot have some level of variability, but they'd cover different lines of fire. You have to get out of the way of all of those.
And let's not even get into automatic fire.
The actual best way to dodge bullets is to never get shot at in the first place. :)
Like the video says, you're basicly firing at targets that STATISTICLY should be there while constantly rotating and bending your body. This severly cuts down on time because you dont aim and what alot of people forget is that a bullet is very small so the odds of hitting your target while moving like that is severly decreased. It may not be perfect but last i heard 99% of any shots fired in combat ever hit a target so theres that!
Both this and the Matrix are awesome,this has more emphasis on Gun Techniques and the Matrix hand-to-hand combat with good elements of more realistic gun play.This is some art that could be mastered maybe against handguns.
I doubt this is a perfect system. In weapons training, people are taught an effective way to use their weapons. Over time, they tend to change their style to an individual technique that suits them best, and everyone in the world is unique.
@Dudin4tor It's impossible because an attackers position and line of fire is determined by the battlefield, and battlefield conditions cannot be statistically predicted. In a gunfight, you simply cannot statistically predict an attacker's position.
@hunterkiller232134 Maybe if they were to get the hang of repeated distances and elevations of the shooters, they would master it over time. However, that's not something you can just teach someone, you'd have to learn it for yourself while not getting shot.
@Dudin4tor The whole idea of Gun Kata is bunk, because things like distance and elevation are decided where the battle takes place. You can't at all determine the statistical probability of an enemy's position without knowing the terrain of the battlefield. The most you can do is become incredibly proficient with your weapon.
@scott1506 depends on calibre , but if you look at a glock 18 you can fire one of those with little recoil, and since this is like partially into the future it is possilbe
This reminds me of the mentat concept in Dune where you have guys that are basically human computers. It wouldn't be far fetched to take their mathematical skills and apply it to fighting a "fantasy" world.
this is plausible - for the movie - they explain the details of different shooter positions, number of shooters, number of attack paths, weapon types (pistols through assault rifles,
you can see it on the PDA. every "stance" of the gunkata is designed to counter a specific number of enemies, with specific weapons firing from specific positions.
reality tells me to take a bullet proof vest and take solid cover behind any incoming fire.
The concept of predicting shooter positions and firing paths is fine, yes. And the technicality might be possible too. Assuming that human movement and reflexes were both at least 10 times the speed of sound.
And since nobody has reflexes that fast to "dodge bullets," in all the scenes in the movie you'd die in 3 seconds in real life. The only realistic possibility of this stuff is a one-on-one confrontation where the guy is right next to you. You could knock away the gun.
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD not so much dodging as moving before it is shot, if the cleric can move out of the way BEFORE the trigger is pulled they have "dodged" the bullet the trick it to do it just before so that the shooter cannot adjust. and yes IRL someone would not survive against assault rifle wielding guards but semi automatic pistols or rifles would be plausible.
While the shooters fire at these clerics, they know where the bullets are gonna hit them, being aware of all surrounding shooters of different angles, it is impossible to be able to successfully move out of the path of 3-4 shooters with automatic weapons if these "statistics" were true.
systema and krav maga show how to avoid bullets... obviously you cannot avoid em but... you try... and they don't teach you thing you can see in this movie -_-
maybe the only advantage is IF the hero can get slightly out of line of fire from a potential shooter and has mastered confidence in bullets flying around him (which he should have). But his back and shoulder area remains a huge target board.
my friend. when surrounded by guns...all your moves and even the demonstration animation keeps the bloody defendant open to all other angles. even in the movie. CB is left exposed against more than 2-3 gunmen with machine guns.
@killerz102 if you are talking about the shooters true. If you are talking about the hero, well I wasn't using statistics. I was analysing. Basically there IS deficiency in defence.
The Matrix sucked. The only thing good about it was the fight scenes and the reality is a dream concept . The rest of the movie's plot could have been crafted on the toilet in 30 minutes. Equillibrium had an amazing plot that had me by the heart strings the whole way through . The Matrix didn't come close.
Yes equilibrium was ok, but I had to check what movie it was when I heard the name. Nothing special. Matrix on the other hand was my favorite movie when it came out.
Don't compare it to the matrix, other than cool action scenes it is nothing like the matrix.
I actually think this film is better, after you see it half a dozen times or more you better understand a lot of the deeper stuff they get into.
And to the guy with the minigun remark. It doesn't matter what the gun is, the point is the people wielding the guns use statistically predictable movements. Thus allowing the Cleric to dodge.
@LojakZeRo - It would take a LOT of experience in REAL firefights to master this, but of course lethality is quite high. However, in computer games, where death is not permanent this works quite well. You notice godly players if you encounter them, they are definetly present to a small ammount. However reality is much more unforgiving than simulation and statistically predicted actions have not actually always to match the real actions. But it would improve your chances for sure.
@LojakZeRo Absolutley right - people advertised this as a clone of the matrix which might be one of the reasons it flopped in the cinemas, but when it went to DVD, it gained a huge following since ppl realised that they are nothing alike...
WTF??? I just searched for "perfect world - cleric lvl guide"....and then by some accidents...I came to this cool action video, what's this called? I want to download it XD
(FYI: it's true just search "perfect world - cleric lvl guide" it's a net game like wow..... I know the difference beetwen game and movie are big, but my luck is finding some good stuff XD)
Its called Equilibrium, and if the movie had more cash and a better director, it could have rivaled matrix, it had a really good story. And Christian bale Shined in it.
it was initially slated but then got more credit than the matrix in terms of a more believable story and action, which is good for the brits since this was more a less a british flik
Exactly as the guy said Gun Katta uses a study that preditcts the statistic situation of the average assailant in a gun or melee fight. Im sure this includes situations where a sniper would be perched, if anything he would dodge the bullet and shoot him as soon as he miss, of course if this was humanly posible.
Is It Me or would it seem like this fighting style be more useful against a Cleric than for a cleric. Because For one when you have no emotion your I Dont Know.... More Predictable
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The thing that people think their saying is that the Gun Kata helps you avoid bullets. This is not true. It's only real implication is your effectiveness in close-quarter combat against multiple enemies either in an open area or all around you. Also the predictable element of return fire is partly correct. The reason for this is because people just about always fire from a waist to shoulder level.
true but I believe the firefights he speaks of are not those in the military. More like against untrained milita such as the Sense offenders. If you could statististicly guess where your enemy will fire from you will have a greater chance of killing him.
Cleric serve a HIGHER POWER (fuck you masons) that everyone believes in around the world and all these figures around the world have a relation with that are actually FRIENDs in a way.
Not what you think.
I admit it, Im ready to become a "Cleric". Cleris do have alot of POWER but they cant just go out and do all this shit left and right on what Im thinking about, no Im not talking about killing people. Like I aid below, they have an "UNDERSTANDING" of LIFE?
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
This is gay.
These are all PRAETORIANs or TEMPLAR KNIGHTs looked at as Papal Elite Guards skilled in everything from micromanagement to warfare to relations and have an UNDERSTANDING of LIFE as if they are monks or priests.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
Fiction.
There is no way to predict combat unless you're telepathic -- and to that end, regardless of what you may have seen on TV or in street performances, telepathy doesn't exist either -- and gun kata relies entirely on predicting what your enemy will be doing. What's worse, is that they do this without even looking either down their sights or at the enemies they're shooting at.
This is A MOVIE filled with MOVIE lore and MOVIE bad guys that never had a lick of any formal combat training.
Excedrine 2 months ago
@Excedrine They also never take into account that gun shots are excruciatingly loud. Even a .22 Long Rifle measures well over 150 dB at the muzzle, and OSHA standards dictate that any event over 140 dB can cause instant, permanent hearing damage.
So, to stand there and pop shots by each other's ears without hearing protection is just dumb. But hey, it is a MOVIE. Against any formally trained combatant, these MOVIE characters wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell in a real gunfight. :)
Excedrine 2 months ago
guncata is really exists.
Chinese and koreans use them.
Cheburashka207 2 months ago
120% increased efficiency? Id say 140%!
NoobSlayrz 2 months ago
@NoobSlayrz I don't know about efficiency, but it certainly does make them look 20% cooler.
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8wealthyone8 3 months ago
yeah it looks cool but doesn't account for someone behind cover.
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Tranxhead 3 months ago
Now I know how my nights will be spent, perfecting Gun-Kata.
BlueWind61 4 months ago
Let me explain something to all you newfags on here. The point of Gun-Kata is not to dodge bullets. That is impossible. But the point is to move faster than the enemies mind could possibly react. Example would be a person aims his rifle at your stomach. You know this, because that is the calculation you have made. Now as he is about to press the trigger, you move. Now that you have already moved, he pulls the trigger after you moved, causing him to shoot the wall. Then you shoot him.
Duspende 4 months ago 12
@Duspende couldnt have said it better :)
liamdudeeee 2 months ago
Someone should actually try to perfect this style in real life
wisewarriormuzic 5 months ago
Well you naysayers I have used the gun kata, with deadly results. So you see it does work. But you must mix in some Tai Chi to do it. It balances the mind and sharpens the reflexes.
thecj29 5 months ago
Why didn't they put in Bale killing people who can do Gun Kata? Thats a big flaw in the movie.
counterstrikenerd321 5 months ago
@counterstrikenerd321 They did.It was the end fight lol
wisewarriormuzic 5 months ago
@wisewarriormuzic Why not have him fight atleast six or more than just one...
counterstrikenerd321 5 months ago
@counterstrikenerd321 He killed DuPont. That's a person.
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@Zeoras He didn't kill all those trainees.
counterstrikenerd321 4 months ago
LOL... "gun battle"
vertibelle 6 months ago
FUTURISTIC IPAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ 1:16
MGSfan 6 months ago
maybe, but nobody is capable of doing it
jessrocked 6 months ago
Yes, first before you shoot your opponent you must first do a backflip, 3 spins and a triple sow cow. Only then will you be a true advrrrsrry.
lowlypeasant 6 months ago 3
The guy talking has an awesome accent!
03blaird 6 months ago
Possible, yes, very. Probable, unlikely.
pyscobrand 6 months ago 4
Statistics, folks. The Gun Kata is not about dodging every bullet, Matrix-like. It is about knowing how group awareness works in groups of gunmen; what kinds of angles of fire and covering fire they are *likely* to take, what regions of your body they are *likely* to aim at from what *likely* firing positions. It is not about certainty, just probability. The Cleric isn't processing anything when using the Gun Kata. He is moving through a series of rote maneuvers,
atheshar 7 months ago 10
Hmm best way to avoid bullets? Take cover and hide behind something duh! Lol great movie though.
XD0nuts3 7 months ago
Chuck Norris can use gun kata.......
Psychocide 8 months ago
@Psychocide Chuck Norris doesn't use gun kata... he stops the bullets with his beard.
Kynmarcher5000 7 months ago
WHAT MOVIE IS THIS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?1/1/
tocboh 8 months ago
@tocboh Equilibrium, its friggin awesome!
skulljoint 8 months ago in playlist Equilibrium
The thing about gun-kata is that in Equilibrium, Preston's full-auto Beretta things would have to somehow have octuple-stacked magazines in order for him to kill that many people or fire that many shots without reloading. You'd need a pair of submachine guns with very large magazines in order to even attempt pulling something like that off.
xMisterHigginsx 8 months ago
@xMisterHigginsx He has devices on the wrists of his uniform that slide cartridges back into his gun. Its a futuristic movie so don't over think it.
AntiHero1317 8 months ago
@AntiHero1317 I know, I've watched the movie multiple times. He only actually uses those devices once throughout the entire film. And yes, I know it's just a movie, and a great one at that, but....I like poking fun at stuff like this haha. John Woo is one of my favorite directors, and....yeah...Hardboiled. I don't think I need to say anything further.
xMisterHigginsx 8 months ago
Robert the Bruce!
jezmuff 8 months ago 2
Its George Orwell's 1984 taken to the next level. Great movie.
Wrahns 9 months ago 2
if only Winston knew how to use gun-kata
jmm1233 10 months ago
Cotinuation of my previous post...
Utilizing gun-kata as your preferred fighting style means you must position yourself in a location that will lessen your enemies field of fire.
Meaning, staying in a position where your enemies will have to suppress fire if you change your stance, such as courching, leaning back, etc. wherein 1 of your enemies will be pointing his gun at his ally rendering him unable to decide wether to shoot or not.
The basic principle is. Use your advantage as a 1 man army
KnightsofRoundsZERO 10 months ago
I would have to say based on my experience firing guns. Shooting birds of course, and me and my friends would also play with our fake-pistols around our house.
The thing is, if there are a lot of you in a team or group, considering you are all allies and all of you are fighting 1 man. Accuracy is needed because you might shoot at your own teammate which is known as FriendlyFire.
That is what Gun-Kata is about. The study of the trajectories of a group of gun men. To dodge their bullets.
KnightsofRoundsZERO 10 months ago
This could work if the sample-size of recorded gunfights is large enough to account for random chance, also, the shooter would have to be a biological machine in order to memorize all that data and then execute each motion according to the firing position of the person shooting at him, not to mention the fear factor that would have to be suppressed, and that the enemy could start spraying bullets at any time and end the fight that way.
So yes it can be done, but its not practical.
Vanguard25895 10 months ago
Gunkata could work in theory in regards to hand-to-hand pistol duelling, but it's highly unlikely that two combatants would get close enough to each other to cross barrels (after all, the whole point of a firearm is NOT to get close to your adversary).
Xanatos712 11 months ago
@Xanatos712 Not that I disagree, what you are saying is true. There is, however, a time where this style can come in handy. If you were in a closed, confind locatiion, such as a storage room, a low lighting corner store, a school liberary, abandoned apartment floor, basically any place dull or dark where distance combat and steath isn't an option, Gun Kata can allow one to get point blank and out of the enemy's firing range, dispatch them, and get out of the way before the next shot hat them.
TheScorpion0081 10 months ago
Its a great idea but personally I think its bollocks,Pistol encounters are by the nature of the weapon done at close range,you don`t need or have time for fancy footwork or body movements,what you need is a sure draw and fast accurate shooting.
ajb7876 11 months ago
Statistic does not mean certainty.
ImEternalWanderer 11 months ago
@ImEternalWanderer No, but it change the probability.
Ko252 11 months ago
Not near as good as the Matrix. But some cool fight scenes.
Indigo656 11 months ago
I remember seeing a show, a while back, on a mathmatician that predicted two dancers moves almost exactly before they moved... so yes, it could be possible.. maybe not quite as cool as in the movie.. but it's possible
kiddyblender 1 year ago
lol you cant predict somthing like this what knowladge would you back it up with he has a gun? how do you know how or where he will shoot it just a buncha bull shit words that apeal to dumb fucks who dont understand shit atleast the matrix had an interesting story this is just bull shit.
MegaBEANER1000 1 year ago
Possible.. until a quick rising degree.
Statistics can always be studied upon to see which body parts are being targeted at from which distance and angle... and so on.
A quick sudden and unexpected move of the target could possibly let the shooter miss once, and twice if very lucky.
Other than that i have to say that statistics were never really my answerbag.
gunblade64 1 year ago
The simple, practical myth busting evidence: most people who survived gunfights (not the word "survived" it's not "won") did so by taking cover; not dodging bullets.
Deadman1709 1 year ago 2
Dupont is a Awsome and Mightiest Bad Guy I Love it when he does that
EspioArtwork 1 year ago
4 sense offenders saw this so far.
ElectricGravity 1 year ago 4
Here's a thought:
is it possible to predict what moves a martial artist will do in a fight?
iLuckyyy 1 year ago
@iLuckyyy Yes, Bruce Lee created the Concept of Jeet Kune Do specifically to combat predictability with Martial Arts. Each style has it's own Kata and sequences. Certain types of moves and combos. Quite simply, for an expert of Tae Kwon Do, it is easy to read and predict the movements of a fellow user. What Bruce Lee wanted for people who study Martial Arts is to learn as many different types as you can and blend them into your own style, to eliminate predictability.
SomethingsIronic 1 year ago
@SomethingsIronic :D Bruce Lee lives up to his reputation..
If we think about a gun as an extension of someone's body then we can see how Equilibrium's concept ties in with Jeet Kune Do..
iLuckyyy 1 year ago
everyone for myth busters?
gatorback65678 1 year ago 83
@gatorback65678 You should start training.
Ko252 11 months ago
Equilibrium is a highly underestimated and misunderstood film. One of Bale's best, no doubt
jewelfewel 1 year ago 76
@jewelfewel Let's give 'em some #training xD
JosephThaneson 7 months ago
@jewelfewel No doubt.
1stCainite 4 months ago
REAL EASY....
1) position of opponents is dependent on the terrain and the location of cover, which is not possible to blindly predict.
2) Trajectory of bullets is also dependent on not only terrain and cover, but also on the skill of the shooter, and the number of shooters, which is also impossible to predict.
3) Even if #1 and #2 were possible, it would require the Cleric to be able to calculate and position himself accordingly, changing the kata until it's not a kata at all anymore,
nuketheredstates 1 year ago
@nuketheredstates look zodiac is a statistic... so if we have a supercompturer which will calculate all the variables. It's quite possible.
VVUULDTUURRM 1 year ago
@VVUULDTUURRM ...maybe in 300 years we'll have some kind of war-bot weapon platform that can do things like this. No human brain works that fast.
nuketheredstates 1 year ago
@nuketheredstates there is no spoon Neo.
VVUULDTUURRM 1 year ago
@nuketheredstates
it never says its perfect you pedantic wanker, its a martial ART for guns instead of sticks and swords. i bet when the first warrior monk started training with a stick there was some stupid cunt saying, oh but it dosent matter because it depends on 1. how good your opponent is and how big his stick is.... yawn
just fuck off with your high waisted trouseryness, go spot some trains instead. its a good concept your just too fucking retarded to understand.
lucasleivia 1 year ago
HHAHAHAHA ok whatever you go believe whatever you want, I'll be at the gun range I bet you watch japanese cartoon sword fights and think that's real, too
nuketheredstates 1 year ago
Trajectory and precision. does it really work?
phuong6936 1 year ago
It is a very cool concept indeed but alas this will always be a concept, in a combat situation it is impossible to know the trajectories of every round fired off by one person and then the same for his buddies. I could understand one or maybe two opponents but 5+? Come on, you would need real-time calculation power in under a second to be able to work out every position and angle you are safe at; and not only that you have to bring everything into account not just the weapon. Fun but silly :)
TimusOminere 1 year ago
It's an impressive piece of unabased, no holds barred, utter bollocks. A triumph of meaningless blather, on a par with the Architect's "you are the eventuality of an anomaly" spiel.
But come on, this is about as believable as the idea that you can train yourself to fly by religiously flapping your arms every day.
AlephNeil 1 year ago
I did this shit in Mw2 and it worked lol
CappeDAGAIN 1 year ago 2
If we want to do this, we need highly advanced bodies with nervous systems working at least 5 times quicker than our current.
FearThisChannel 1 year ago
I practice every day some Gun Kata and until today nobody shot me.
M1chl42 1 year ago 3
@M1chl42 But was anyone shooting back at you at the time? *grin* Its a very cool movie concept, and visually excellent, but I wouldnt think it would work well "in the real world".
arathdaoth 1 year ago
anyone else think this could be a HHG2G entry if narrated by Stephen Fry?
LeapingLeptons42 1 year ago
This film is so underrated because the other half of the population (Women) are into emotions so when theres a film about not having emotions then they'll go stick some crap on like titanic and cry to that for 2 hours.
Configurations 1 year ago
@Configurations Not every woman is like that... just the majority of the ones they show on TV. I don't even like Titanic.
NadinaCardillo 1 year ago
@Configurations OI! not all women are airheaded weak crybabies. I seriously take great exception to such a stereotype that is only foisted on your mind by commercialists.
arathdaoth 1 year ago
@Configurations Seriously? I hated titanic and i absolutly refuse to see anything labeled a chick flick. I prefer to watch movies like this.
unamifiore2 1 year ago
Theoretically it is possible, assuming a machine is doing it. Shooting trajectories are predictable, a guy behind a barrel will shoot you from behind that barrel. But for a maximum number of opponents like it's shown in that demo, a man would need eyes at the back and sides of his head and a targeting system. So I'd say, practically it's fiction.
hellmagefire 1 year ago
This is so epic!
musto94 1 year ago
I want to go to the Cleric academy
inflicting maximun damage on the maximum number of opponents ROFL, thats great
noaladoblevocal 1 year ago
lol, just use an AK47! about as predictable as a woman's mood swings!
yarr1k 1 year ago
@yarr1k most epic comment on youtube now and forever
dexterme 1 year ago
You could probably dodge one or two bullets if you were well trained. But even that's very risky, and you better hope you can disable them in that time frame.
Dodging multiple sources of gunfire like that is almost laughable. Not only would each shot have some level of variability, but they'd cover different lines of fire. You have to get out of the way of all of those.
And let's not even get into automatic fire.
The actual best way to dodge bullets is to never get shot at in the first place. :)
RoaraWolf 1 year ago
Like the video says, you're basicly firing at targets that STATISTICLY should be there while constantly rotating and bending your body. This severly cuts down on time because you dont aim and what alot of people forget is that a bullet is very small so the odds of hitting your target while moving like that is severly decreased. It may not be perfect but last i heard 99% of any shots fired in combat ever hit a target so theres that!
branhan007 1 year ago
Both this and the Matrix are awesome,this has more emphasis on Gun Techniques and the Matrix hand-to-hand combat with good elements of more realistic gun play.This is some art that could be mastered maybe against handguns.
fixdeluxe1 1 year ago
doesn't take in account targets that have taken cover. but hey it looks cool .
sean311973 1 year ago
You'd have to have ESP or something +
there's a chance the attacker just got a luck shot like
maybe his bullet ricochets off some object.
+UBER FAST REFLEXES :D
But calm down you skeptics, we can still enjoy a cool concept can't we?
k2owns 1 year ago
I doubt this is a perfect system. In weapons training, people are taught an effective way to use their weapons. Over time, they tend to change their style to an individual technique that suits them best, and everyone in the world is unique.
Dudin4tor 1 year ago
@Dudin4tor It's impossible because an attackers position and line of fire is determined by the battlefield, and battlefield conditions cannot be statistically predicted. In a gunfight, you simply cannot statistically predict an attacker's position.
hunterkiller232134 1 year ago
@hunterkiller232134 Maybe if they were to get the hang of repeated distances and elevations of the shooters, they would master it over time. However, that's not something you can just teach someone, you'd have to learn it for yourself while not getting shot.
Dudin4tor 1 year ago
@Dudin4tor The whole idea of Gun Kata is bunk, because things like distance and elevation are decided where the battle takes place. You can't at all determine the statistical probability of an enemy's position without knowing the terrain of the battlefield. The most you can do is become incredibly proficient with your weapon.
hunterkiller232134 1 year ago
@hunterkiller232134 bunk or not, the idea settles for some awesome shootout scenes, and we shouldn't always let realism get in the way.
Dudin4tor 1 year ago
inflicting maximum ... nonsense
sooperfukker 1 year ago
They should test this out on Mythbusters or something......
aevald 1 year ago
@aevald lmao....Get real people with real guns haha. But seriously, that would be cool.
Huhmasta 1 year ago
@Huhmasta Yeah I was thinking they could use paintball guns or laser tag guns or something,,,
aevald 1 year ago
@aevald tasers? LMAO, taser kata FTW. XDD I can see it now, fat cops using gun katas to subdue criminals.
Huhmasta 1 year ago
this kata is taekwondo
ronnt 1 year ago
Applied to FPS.
Minervis0 1 year ago
I can so do this...
X7ELI7X 1 year ago
could you make a fully auto hand gun with little recoil like the cleric gun in the movie
scott1506 1 year ago
@scott1506 depends on calibre , but if you look at a glock 18 you can fire one of those with little recoil, and since this is like partially into the future it is possilbe
nilloc93 1 year ago
This reminds me of the mentat concept in Dune where you have guys that are basically human computers. It wouldn't be far fetched to take their mathematical skills and apply it to fighting a "fantasy" world.
liyon316 1 year ago
@liyon316
In Dune this concept is mentioned in glance - sardaukars have mentats among their ranks , the force landing on Arrakis with Harkonens has 4 mentats .
It can be argued that clerics are a low developed form of mentat centered on law enforcement and hand-to-hand\small arms combat.
Both mentats and clerics put emphasis on purely logical mathematical approach to thought , both use chemical boosters to achieve it.
eliqfor1 1 year ago
download this movie NOW :D
maxlegrand1 1 year ago
this is plausible - for the movie - they explain the details of different shooter positions, number of shooters, number of attack paths, weapon types (pistols through assault rifles,
you can see it on the PDA. every "stance" of the gunkata is designed to counter a specific number of enemies, with specific weapons firing from specific positions.
reality tells me to take a bullet proof vest and take solid cover behind any incoming fire.
eristarisis 2 years ago
@eristarisis
The concept of predicting shooter positions and firing paths is fine, yes. And the technicality might be possible too. Assuming that human movement and reflexes were both at least 10 times the speed of sound.
And since nobody has reflexes that fast to "dodge bullets," in all the scenes in the movie you'd die in 3 seconds in real life. The only realistic possibility of this stuff is a one-on-one confrontation where the guy is right next to you. You could knock away the gun.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD not so much dodging as moving before it is shot, if the cleric can move out of the way BEFORE the trigger is pulled they have "dodged" the bullet the trick it to do it just before so that the shooter cannot adjust. and yes IRL someone would not survive against assault rifle wielding guards but semi automatic pistols or rifles would be plausible.
nilloc93 1 year ago 4
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD the one to one stuff is like krav maga, am sure they train to disarm an shit
scott1506 1 year ago
While the shooters fire at these clerics, they know where the bullets are gonna hit them, being aware of all surrounding shooters of different angles, it is impossible to be able to successfully move out of the path of 3-4 shooters with automatic weapons if these "statistics" were true.
MrMasterful13 2 years ago
systema and krav maga show how to avoid bullets... obviously you cannot avoid em but... you try... and they don't teach you thing you can see in this movie -_-
milano1919 2 years ago
maybe the only advantage is IF the hero can get slightly out of line of fire from a potential shooter and has mastered confidence in bullets flying around him (which he should have). But his back and shoulder area remains a huge target board.
mano012sg 2 years ago
my friend. when surrounded by guns...all your moves and even the demonstration animation keeps the bloody defendant open to all other angles. even in the movie. CB is left exposed against more than 2-3 gunmen with machine guns.
mano012sg 2 years ago
@mano012sg they dont analyse other peoples position when they shoot they just shoot so you can not use statistics to actually 100% say that.
killerz102 2 years ago
@killerz102 if you are talking about the shooters true. If you are talking about the hero, well I wasn't using statistics. I was analysing. Basically there IS deficiency in defence.
mano012sg 2 years ago
nah not the hero the other guys shooting him dont analyze his open areas then shoot they just shoot is what i was implying..yup.
killerz102 2 years ago
lol it's Jeff from Saw III
MetaIhead89 2 years ago
John Preston would **** Neo's **** up.
dhumantorch 2 years ago
Whaaat? Neo could just stick his hand up and say, "Beat it, bitch!" knowing that he could just stop all the bullets.
BloodMagex 2 years ago 2
@BloodMagex IF he was in the Matrix
Darroth 2 years ago
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great movie. but not even close to the matrix. what motherfucker has ever compare these two movies? i love equilibrium but THE MATRIX is perfection.
musakesedzija1 2 years ago
The matrix has the better story but equilibrium has better action sequences.
DemonGod20 2 years ago 2
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wtfapi 2 years ago
The Matrix sucked. The only thing good about it was the fight scenes and the reality is a dream concept . The rest of the movie's plot could have been crafted on the toilet in 30 minutes. Equillibrium had an amazing plot that had me by the heart strings the whole way through . The Matrix didn't come close.
ChuckinCho 2 years ago
Yes equilibrium was ok, but I had to check what movie it was when I heard the name. Nothing special. Matrix on the other hand was my favorite movie when it came out.
wtfapi 2 years ago
No this is not possible.
Don't compare it to the matrix, other than cool action scenes it is nothing like the matrix.
I actually think this film is better, after you see it half a dozen times or more you better understand a lot of the deeper stuff they get into.
And to the guy with the minigun remark. It doesn't matter what the gun is, the point is the people wielding the guns use statistically predictable movements. Thus allowing the Cleric to dodge.
Anyways, just enjoy the damn movie, lol.
LojakZeRo 2 years ago 61
The most ironic fact would be that this kind of combat would make a room full of bad shots the worst kind of enemy xD.
tenou123 2 years ago 3
@LojakZeRo - It would take a LOT of experience in REAL firefights to master this, but of course lethality is quite high. However, in computer games, where death is not permanent this works quite well. You notice godly players if you encounter them, they are definetly present to a small ammount. However reality is much more unforgiving than simulation and statistically predicted actions have not actually always to match the real actions. But it would improve your chances for sure.
Arkanoid1212 1 year ago
@LojakZeRo Absolutley right - people advertised this as a clone of the matrix which might be one of the reasons it flopped in the cinemas, but when it went to DVD, it gained a huge following since ppl realised that they are nothing alike...
sleth22 1 year ago
@LojakZeRo Me and my family think this movie blows The Matrix out of the water
Deader87 1 year ago
"brave new world" aldous huxley
skato64 2 years ago
Yes this is possible if you have eyes in the back of his head, and all the enemies run up one by one жD
InfroLife 2 years ago 2
100mm minigun anticleric :)
InfroLife 2 years ago
If you bring a minigun to a handgun fight you will get pwnt. Several times. Severely.
tenou123 2 years ago
Thats why you dont bring the minigun to a handgun fight, you get your friend to sit around the corner with the minigun spooled up ready to fire.
Mitchd03 2 years ago
this is possible
zwaardje4 2 years ago
Yeah, basic rules are pretty sensible.
But i don't think execution is right.
It's still only a movie.
pisaqW 2 years ago
"gun kata".. makes me lolz
s0b00n 2 years ago
then you die laughing.
titanic19 2 years ago
WTF??? I just searched for "perfect world - cleric lvl guide"....and then by some accidents...I came to this cool action video, what's this called? I want to download it XD
(FYI: it's true just search "perfect world - cleric lvl guide" it's a net game like wow..... I know the difference beetwen game and movie are big, but my luck is finding some good stuff XD)
Leafshinoby 2 years ago
BTW I want a el-drawing pad too (0:18) it's used for drawing stuff on pc/laptops <_<"
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VValar 2 years ago
Its called Equilibrium, and if the movie had more cash and a better director, it could have rivaled matrix, it had a really good story. And Christian bale Shined in it.
yellowstoneinc 2 years ago 4
rivaled matrix...then it must be good, thankxes for the advice I'm going to watch it XD
Leafshinoby 2 years ago
it was initially slated but then got more credit than the matrix in terms of a more believable story and action, which is good for the brits since this was more a less a british flik
lamailegend 2 years ago
i believe the director of the film actually "invented" this martial art in his back yard or something, its not real but it sure as hell is cool!!!
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ManoftheBats 2 years ago
this is fiction so It isn't fucking real.
DBZmaster0123 2 years ago
just shoot straight at the guys torso with a machine gun.
Or use a grenade launcher
Roger007Poore 2 years ago
or use a fatman.
inventiveinsanity 2 years ago
duh they'd avoid it, find yourself a hunting group and hide. Then use sniper rifles XD they wouldn't know what hit'd them XD IMao
Leafshinoby 2 years ago
they'd probably dodge that too.
Only way to kill a cleric is either with batman or spartans. I don't care what kind of spartan, roman or geneticallyenhancedsuperwarrior.
inventiveinsanity 2 years ago
Exactly as the guy said Gun Katta uses a study that preditcts the statistic situation of the average assailant in a gun or melee fight. Im sure this includes situations where a sniper would be perched, if anything he would dodge the bullet and shoot him as soon as he miss, of course if this was humanly posible.
shoNuuff 2 years ago
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I think gun kata can be effective if one applies the methodology of Jeet Kune Do.
NexAngelus405 2 years ago
the most awsome concept of the movie
startingsprinter 2 years ago 33
Equilibrium copies the Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" theme and the movie made in 1966. Nice film though, even if the idea is not original.
felixmoga 2 years ago
Is It Me or would it seem like this fighting style be more useful against a Cleric than for a cleric. Because For one when you have no emotion your I Dont Know.... More Predictable
SSJSasuke777 2 years ago
You people do understand it's a fictional movie right >.>
Silent7hinker 2 years ago
m freaked out right now so sorry in 2003 there was a boy anmed link and his friends ar school were bullying him and laughing at him because his name was the same as a game charcter. half a year later he was found in the kitchen with a knife. He had slit his throat. If you don't put this on 3 videos in 10 minutes, he will stab you with the knife in you neck while you're asleep. again sorry some weirdo posted this
ADMBP 2 years ago
This is why in my military training they tell me not to kneel when reloading. Why?. because no my head in in that general area of RETURN FIRE!!!!!!
JBX844187 2 years ago
The thing that people think their saying is that the Gun Kata helps you avoid bullets. This is not true. It's only real implication is your effectiveness in close-quarter combat against multiple enemies either in an open area or all around you. Also the predictable element of return fire is partly correct. The reason for this is because people just about always fire from a waist to shoulder level.
JBX844187 2 years ago
This dude sounds like he loves the sound of his own voice.
masterjojack 2 years ago
Doesnt Any High Powered Prick
SSJSasuke777 2 years ago 2
Firefights are not determined by probability, as there are virtually unlimited situations in a given firefight.
Firefights are determined by how well you can cover yourself while limiting the enemy's cover.
That is why strategies such as flanking, and protecting your flanks work.
formula90II 2 years ago
true but I believe the firefights he speaks of are not those in the military. More like against untrained milita such as the Sense offenders. If you could statististicly guess where your enemy will fire from you will have a greater chance of killing him.
BorosWarmaster 2 years ago
haha bullshit you can shoot through cover friendo unless you are talking reenforced concrete
Anihilist 2 years ago
Umm... 9mm pistol? Through brick? Stone? Thick wood?
No. SMG's use 9mm rounds too, so don't tell me "militia also use P90's, MP5's etc." Because Im pretty sure wouldn't puncture either
ButteredMilk 2 years ago