Ha spot on man, had a promoter for the purple turtle in camden telling me i need to bring 35 people to a gig on a thursday night! I said that's fine; so are you going to play my guitar? Cuz if i'm gonna do your fukin job you can do mine :)
@taylorlloyd that's bullshit, to be fair. A promoter cannot conjure an audience out of thin air. Yes, it's the promoter's job to 'promote' the gig, but 99% of people won't go to see a band they haven't heard of, no matter how well it's marketed. There's little money to be made in promotion. If you're an unknown band you HAVE to get a following, even a small one. I've asked bands back who have brought 50+ people. It's up to you to get yourself off the starting blocks, not someone else.
@taylorlloyd you need to work on your attitude to get yourself more gigs. If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem", not "fuck you! Do your job!". You cannot afford to lose contacts or opportunities in the underground. Don't fall into the trap of many a band by thinking you're special: you're not, and the scene is saturated with small artists. If you won't fill the slot, another will. Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go, but I'm actually trying to help.
@sbgrant If you say 'yes' to bringing 35 people down to london on a thursday night you are either famous, upcoming or delirious; you should be doing everything you can to suggest an honest, reasonable arrangement and be genuine about the amount of punters you can actually bring - no one likes a liar. now i don't know your band, and you tell me your quite underground, so do you still agree with - "If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem"
@taylorlloyd I'm not in a band, I'm a promoter. I don't do it for a living, but in the past I have worked full time for promotion agencies. Promotion is a business. The promoter needs to know Band X can get 35 people or he makes a loss. End of story. If you can't bring 35, someone else will, and bands are queuing up constantly. If you have to lie, lie. You're not a band, you're a "35 people bringer"... or you're not. If you have to lie, lie. Many, many do. And you never know who might be there.
@sbgrant you like bands to lie to you and for yourself to loose money, OOOKKK ;) let me ask do you ever invite them back?
it's funny how i got told differently by 3 labels and 2 PR at the acm feedback confrences. that the worst thing you can do is lie about how many punters you can pull to a gig, the reason being is that the promoter will develop a trust, and he/she may well have further connections with more gigs at bigger and better venues.
well, its the truth! my singer just got a really bad cold and couldnt perform a gig yesterday, now the bar owner wants us to perform one gig for free! we told him to fuck off!
haha the squat box.
arsehole420 3 weeks ago
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XsaraTube 7 months ago
Very very true in London!
XsaraTube 7 months ago
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Amazing! All too familiar!
matsturmey 8 months ago
This is absolutely QUALITY!!!
Giordano93 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHA amazing, this is basically the Monto vampires =D
pooisniceonsunday 8 months ago
This is exactly how working with a promoter is. They win everything, you lose everything.
arclight200783 8 months ago
sounds like so many promoters in London
MegaEliotNess 8 months ago
on the money
MegaEliotNess 8 months ago
Hahaha...... The hand rub at the end!
secondsonn 8 months ago
Sounds like Monto.
sbgrant 8 months ago
@sbgrant Hahaha! yes exactly like Water Rats
jackbism 8 months ago 2
Ha spot on man, had a promoter for the purple turtle in camden telling me i need to bring 35 people to a gig on a thursday night! I said that's fine; so are you going to play my guitar? Cuz if i'm gonna do your fukin job you can do mine :)
taylorlloyd 8 months ago
@taylorlloyd that's bullshit, to be fair. A promoter cannot conjure an audience out of thin air. Yes, it's the promoter's job to 'promote' the gig, but 99% of people won't go to see a band they haven't heard of, no matter how well it's marketed. There's little money to be made in promotion. If you're an unknown band you HAVE to get a following, even a small one. I've asked bands back who have brought 50+ people. It's up to you to get yourself off the starting blocks, not someone else.
sbgrant 8 months ago
@taylorlloyd you need to work on your attitude to get yourself more gigs. If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem", not "fuck you! Do your job!". You cannot afford to lose contacts or opportunities in the underground. Don't fall into the trap of many a band by thinking you're special: you're not, and the scene is saturated with small artists. If you won't fill the slot, another will. Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go, but I'm actually trying to help.
sbgrant 8 months ago
@sbgrant If you say 'yes' to bringing 35 people down to london on a thursday night you are either famous, upcoming or delirious; you should be doing everything you can to suggest an honest, reasonable arrangement and be genuine about the amount of punters you can actually bring - no one likes a liar. now i don't know your band, and you tell me your quite underground, so do you still agree with - "If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem"
taylorlloyd 8 months ago
@taylorlloyd I'm not in a band, I'm a promoter. I don't do it for a living, but in the past I have worked full time for promotion agencies. Promotion is a business. The promoter needs to know Band X can get 35 people or he makes a loss. End of story. If you can't bring 35, someone else will, and bands are queuing up constantly. If you have to lie, lie. You're not a band, you're a "35 people bringer"... or you're not. If you have to lie, lie. Many, many do. And you never know who might be there.
sbgrant 8 months ago
@sbgrant you like bands to lie to you and for yourself to loose money, OOOKKK ;) let me ask do you ever invite them back?
it's funny how i got told differently by 3 labels and 2 PR at the acm feedback confrences. that the worst thing you can do is lie about how many punters you can pull to a gig, the reason being is that the promoter will develop a trust, and he/she may well have further connections with more gigs at bigger and better venues.
taylorlloyd 8 months ago
well, its the truth! my singer just got a really bad cold and couldnt perform a gig yesterday, now the bar owner wants us to perform one gig for free! we told him to fuck off!
andrenogueira775 11 months ago
Oh how i long to play the squat box...
heavyonit 1 year ago