@anhsproductions um stfu, your an idiot. That man was insulting homosexuals first of all & two the people shouting weren't just gay people so how do you know they were gay?
That shows how much respect homosexuals have. Wow. Can't keep their mouth shut during a council... Oh my.. Damn. The campus voted, Prop 8 passed, what now? Majority of the ppl voted FOR it, it's TOO bad for them.. It's over.. Done.. Damn.. What don't they understand
Who let this intolerant lunatic into the student council? Obviously poorly educated on what civil rights are, and what homosexuality is. He should be kicked off the council. Anytime one group is descriminated by any other number of groups, it is a fight for equality, regardless how you view homosexuality. And there is significant prove that homosexuality is NOT a choice. This person needs to be educated on that before speaking on the issue.
Gay marriage and public acts of "gayness" should be banned for the same reason why nudists are not allowed to run around naked. It's disturbing and unnatrual. If someone were to bang their head against a wall continuously with their excuse being "I'm naturally inclined to do so", they would be put in a psych ward because what that person was doing was unnatural. Being gay and lesbian is unnatural but it's viewed as a "natural inclination". Being gay is ok? Cmon guys and girls, lets be serious...
Yea, and is being a nudist ok? Lets give them some rights so they can be nude in public. Cmon, we have to be fair right? They're not hurting anyone are they? I'm afraid to go on because people might start to agree with this sarcasm...I am a Christian. So I have way more reasons to believe why being gay is wrong. I hope God opens your eyes one day. Really.
Well if anything it's your eyes that need to be opened to understand that everyone is equal in the eyes of law and God. Good Christians care for everyone's well-being, and not just their own selfish beliefs. People are hiding behind their religious beliefs to cover up their homophobia. There are Christians who accept homosexuals, and those are the REAL Christians. Jesus didn't hate.
I believe what the bible teaches. So you want me to sacrifice my beliefs so homosexuals can be happy?
Jesus doesn't hate people. He hates sin.
I agree that everyone is equal in the eyes of God. We are all sinners. I'm nothing close to perfect. But the difference between them and me is that I know what sins I'm committing. I'm just letting them know that what they think is ok, is not ok. Biblically, I have proof. Naturally, I have common sense.
Could you not simply turn that argument on itself? Should homosexuals have to sacrifice their love to make you happy? If all sin is equal, and everyone sins, how can you possibly attempt to take rights away from the gays? Have you ever had sex for pleasure or not in the missionary position? Because if so then you are commiting a crime just as bad as 'gay sex' in the eyes of God. You 'letting them know' is not based on fact, but opinion and personal beliefs. Not giving them a defense is ignorance
Lol. I don't know what to argue against anymore. I was talking to some other guy from a spiritual point of view and now I'm being attacked because I'm using that spiritual point of view. Oh well. I hope God blesses you all with the truth.
Can you honestly say that the first paragraph doesn't make you sound like a monster? You would take away happiness from another human being so you can be satisfied with your own beliefs?
Now tell me, would Jesus condemn homosexuals if he were around? I think not, if he did not do that to the people who killed him, why would he do that to people who aren't hurting anyone?
There is proof, but it only applies to Priests, if you read carefully...
America is currently taking happiness away from nudists cuz they are not allowing them to roam the streets naked. But THAT's ok cuz it doesnt bother you. But i bet it bothers them. So y take away their happiness? Lets let them roam the streets naked hm? Sane ppl would agree that it would be absurd to let naked people on the streets. Why? Because it's psychologically disturbing for kids & adults, and degrading to society. So is homosexuality. That is a point of view without spirituality involved.
But since I'm a christian, I will state my own point of view. You, most people in the world who call themselves "christians" abuse the word bible and the name of Jesus to promote your junk when you don't even know anything about God or the bible. If you would read it for once, take a nice like stop in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. To be more exact, Leviticus 18:22, and Leviticus 20:13. Jesus WOULD condemn the homosexuals. Jesus is God. He created man and woman for a REASON. A good reason too.
LOL! Man you are living with lies. Jesus would chase them away just like he chase away the sinners who was in front of a church. GOD DESTROYED A WHOLE TOWN WITH GAY'S IN IT. LOL! Don't try and preach your cult bull shit. FACE IT YOU WILL BE JUDGE. IF YOU LIKE DICKS IN YOUR ASS FOR HAPPINESS THEN GOD HAS A PLACE FOR YOU JUST FOR THAT. HELL. YUP AND THERE ARE ALOT OF DEMONS DOWN THERE WHO WHOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT. FACT: YOU WONT BE HAPPY AT ALL... I rest my case...
LOL! Real Christians only except them because he or she knows only God do the judging. I will never bring a gay person into my home. We pray to keep the demons away and that's what I'm doing. Gay are trying to say gays are in Christians churches. FOR WHAT!?! Gays are in the bible saying its a SIN dumb asses. LOL! It cracks me up.
i feel so sorry for the guy in the video when he talks about homos are the masters of controling people. he is just a guy who needs to spend time in a mental hosptial. i think that all of the christian civilzation club needs to be put away for about two to three years in the nutfarm.
Way to go! Proposition 8 does not take away the rights of gay couples—they already have the same rights as married couples. It only keeps marriage from taking on any old definition that becomes trendy. Marriage is, and always has been, between a man and a woman. Let's keep it that way. Please vote YES on 8.
You can marry anyone you want. They can't. People like you sicken me, because you KNOW what you are saying is dishonest yet you keep pretending you don't.
That's right, I can marry any woman I want, because that's what marriage is. Marriage, by its very definition, has always been the union of a man and a woman to form a human family. Anything else is simply not marriage. Just as hanging out with my dog isn't marriage. Just because two sentient beings love each other, doesn't make it marriage. There has to be a line drawn. I think we are much too hasty to alter a definition that has served civilizations well for eons based on recent movement.
I can't believe this, this is the kind of thing all of need to see though. The cold, calm cool, collected odacity of hatred and mitigated injustice. This is what encited the stonewall riots, this is the kind of hate speech that helped mold Dr Martin Luther King into action, this is the kind of subjegation and second class citizenship that leads to uprising of a minority and civil upheaval. This would not be tolerated if he had been talking about a religion, race, national origin, or handicap.
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Not everybody is for sticking their penis in another man's anus, believe it or not. and you call that disrimination? LOL please. ARC is 80% liberals, literally, so I am not surprised they got butt hurt (Lol) by this vote. Oh well.... liberals should have an understanding of DIVERSITY of opinion and stop looking hypocritical. You only alloy diversity if it is in your favor. That is just closed-minded.
yeah, his internal struggle is hatred versus trying to come across as good. I can see how thats tough for him. Obviously, when youre simply trying to pass a prop that does nothing but inflict someone else and not help you at all, its hard to make people see the good in that who dont have some divine hatred behind it.
There's no tolerance when you attack people. And thanks for the stereotype, not every gay person is "peace-love-tolerance." Some of us real men will kick your ass for pissing us off.
Blah blah blah. I'd be happy to find some lesbians who wouldn't mind teaching you a lesson in civility.
Wingnuts blow up federal buildings and bomb abortion clinics. Oh, and as we have seen from all the republican and conservative sex scandals: cruise men in bathrooms, sexually abuse children and deal in child porn.
Fuck you Niobe. Think before you open your mouth. Intolerance and hate towards LOVE (sorry if you refuse to accept it just because you don't like the idea of it, but I'd challenge you to both prove otherwise and prove that the majority of straight "love" is actually love, then prove that it even matters legally!) deserves nothing but brutal honesty.
and what happens when you disagree? you dont say fuck you, you get the discrimination written right into the constitution. good job, youre SO much better.
The very next meeting this gentleman said "prop eight is not about marriageand civil rights, its about sodomy" and the have physical harmed three people on campus for being homosexual, so yeah we "no on prop 8ers" we'll be up at arms for a bit.
You are not disagreeing with their viewpoint, you are taking away rights, and taking away happiness from people. That is far from a fair comparison. How would you like it if people started to take rights away from Christians? Or your rights based on race?
Truth will always be distinct from lie, no matter how persuasively you argue for same-sex causes. Your side's attack on traditional marriage as a gay 'right' must be resisted. Gay marriage is a moral wrong. Period.
haha really? have you READ the prop? how would YOU react if someone came up to you and said "'scuse me, um, yeah, you cant really practice your religion because, gah, i just dont like it." and left and you never saw them again, but that right was taken from you? im pretty sure some people would act out while others stayed seated. hmm. funny how that just happened in the video.
@anhsproductions um stfu, your an idiot. That man was insulting homosexuals first of all & two the people shouting weren't just gay people so how do you know they were gay?
arachnoe 3 months ago
That shows how much respect homosexuals have. Wow. Can't keep their mouth shut during a council... Oh my.. Damn. The campus voted, Prop 8 passed, what now? Majority of the ppl voted FOR it, it's TOO bad for them.. It's over.. Done.. Damn.. What don't they understand
anhsproductions 2 years ago
bigots spread hate not gays. where was your respect to our rights? Someone should take his rights as a bigot away! master this thought bigot
charliehorsecinch 2 years ago
It is not a choice I will tell you that! God loves me and everyone!
JeremySalas 2 years ago
wow, these homosexuals need to SETTLE DOWN.
INTIMIDATION my work initially but most people have learned that it is a sign of TYRANNY!
omiolo 3 years ago
Who let this intolerant lunatic into the student council? Obviously poorly educated on what civil rights are, and what homosexuality is. He should be kicked off the council. Anytime one group is descriminated by any other number of groups, it is a fight for equality, regardless how you view homosexuality. And there is significant prove that homosexuality is NOT a choice. This person needs to be educated on that before speaking on the issue.
yevgeniy333 3 years ago
Gay marriage and public acts of "gayness" should be banned for the same reason why nudists are not allowed to run around naked. It's disturbing and unnatrual. If someone were to bang their head against a wall continuously with their excuse being "I'm naturally inclined to do so", they would be put in a psych ward because what that person was doing was unnatural. Being gay and lesbian is unnatural but it's viewed as a "natural inclination". Being gay is ok? Cmon guys and girls, lets be serious...
Joshy945 3 years ago
I'm sorry for you being closed minded.
lazyjunk 3 years ago
I take that as a compliment. If I were to be open minded then all the junk in the world would just come on in.
Joshy945 3 years ago
Or another way to put it, so open-minded your brains fall out...
Niobe8608 3 years ago
It is ok to be gay. Just like it's ok to have brown hair, or blue eyes. That's the simple truth.
yevgeniy333 3 years ago
Yea, and is being a nudist ok? Lets give them some rights so they can be nude in public. Cmon, we have to be fair right? They're not hurting anyone are they? I'm afraid to go on because people might start to agree with this sarcasm...I am a Christian. So I have way more reasons to believe why being gay is wrong. I hope God opens your eyes one day. Really.
Joshy945 3 years ago
Well if anything it's your eyes that need to be opened to understand that everyone is equal in the eyes of law and God. Good Christians care for everyone's well-being, and not just their own selfish beliefs. People are hiding behind their religious beliefs to cover up their homophobia. There are Christians who accept homosexuals, and those are the REAL Christians. Jesus didn't hate.
yevgeniy333 3 years ago
I believe what the bible teaches. So you want me to sacrifice my beliefs so homosexuals can be happy?
Jesus doesn't hate people. He hates sin.
I agree that everyone is equal in the eyes of God. We are all sinners. I'm nothing close to perfect. But the difference between them and me is that I know what sins I'm committing. I'm just letting them know that what they think is ok, is not ok. Biblically, I have proof. Naturally, I have common sense.
Joshy945 3 years ago
Could you not simply turn that argument on itself? Should homosexuals have to sacrifice their love to make you happy? If all sin is equal, and everyone sins, how can you possibly attempt to take rights away from the gays? Have you ever had sex for pleasure or not in the missionary position? Because if so then you are commiting a crime just as bad as 'gay sex' in the eyes of God. You 'letting them know' is not based on fact, but opinion and personal beliefs. Not giving them a defense is ignorance
Ravendov 3 years ago
Lol. I don't know what to argue against anymore. I was talking to some other guy from a spiritual point of view and now I'm being attacked because I'm using that spiritual point of view. Oh well. I hope God blesses you all with the truth.
Joshy945 3 years ago
Can you honestly say that the first paragraph doesn't make you sound like a monster? You would take away happiness from another human being so you can be satisfied with your own beliefs?
Now tell me, would Jesus condemn homosexuals if he were around? I think not, if he did not do that to the people who killed him, why would he do that to people who aren't hurting anyone?
There is proof, but it only applies to Priests, if you read carefully...
yevgeniy333 3 years ago
America is currently taking happiness away from nudists cuz they are not allowing them to roam the streets naked. But THAT's ok cuz it doesnt bother you. But i bet it bothers them. So y take away their happiness? Lets let them roam the streets naked hm? Sane ppl would agree that it would be absurd to let naked people on the streets. Why? Because it's psychologically disturbing for kids & adults, and degrading to society. So is homosexuality. That is a point of view without spirituality involved.
Joshy945 3 years ago
But since I'm a christian, I will state my own point of view. You, most people in the world who call themselves "christians" abuse the word bible and the name of Jesus to promote your junk when you don't even know anything about God or the bible. If you would read it for once, take a nice like stop in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. To be more exact, Leviticus 18:22, and Leviticus 20:13. Jesus WOULD condemn the homosexuals. Jesus is God. He created man and woman for a REASON. A good reason too.
Joshy945 3 years ago
LOL! Man you are living with lies. Jesus would chase them away just like he chase away the sinners who was in front of a church. GOD DESTROYED A WHOLE TOWN WITH GAY'S IN IT. LOL! Don't try and preach your cult bull shit. FACE IT YOU WILL BE JUDGE. IF YOU LIKE DICKS IN YOUR ASS FOR HAPPINESS THEN GOD HAS A PLACE FOR YOU JUST FOR THAT. HELL. YUP AND THERE ARE ALOT OF DEMONS DOWN THERE WHO WHOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT. FACT: YOU WONT BE HAPPY AT ALL... I rest my case...
TuiL0uMuli 3 years ago
LOL! Real Christians only except them because he or she knows only God do the judging. I will never bring a gay person into my home. We pray to keep the demons away and that's what I'm doing. Gay are trying to say gays are in Christians churches. FOR WHAT!?! Gays are in the bible saying its a SIN dumb asses. LOL! It cracks me up.
TuiL0uMuli 3 years ago
i feel so sorry for the guy in the video when he talks about homos are the masters of controling people. he is just a guy who needs to spend time in a mental hosptial. i think that all of the christian civilzation club needs to be put away for about two to three years in the nutfarm.
Gothiwitch2008 3 years ago 2
Way to go! Proposition 8 does not take away the rights of gay couples—they already have the same rights as married couples. It only keeps marriage from taking on any old definition that becomes trendy. Marriage is, and always has been, between a man and a woman. Let's keep it that way. Please vote YES on 8.
migglesquig 3 years ago
Bullshit.
You can marry anyone you want. They can't. People like you sicken me, because you KNOW what you are saying is dishonest yet you keep pretending you don't.
poisonous333 3 years ago
That's right, I can marry any woman I want, because that's what marriage is. Marriage, by its very definition, has always been the union of a man and a woman to form a human family. Anything else is simply not marriage. Just as hanging out with my dog isn't marriage. Just because two sentient beings love each other, doesn't make it marriage. There has to be a line drawn. I think we are much too hasty to alter a definition that has served civilizations well for eons based on recent movement.
migglesquig 3 years ago
Your argument is utter bullshit.
Couples who can't or chose not to have children are allowed to marry.
Same-sex marriage is no different. It is between CONSENSUAL ADULTS and you are sick, hateful person to compare homosexual love to dogs.
poisonous333 3 years ago
I admire the courage this young man displayed. He handled himself very well considering.
myway43 3 years ago
I can't believe this, this is the kind of thing all of need to see though. The cold, calm cool, collected odacity of hatred and mitigated injustice. This is what encited the stonewall riots, this is the kind of hate speech that helped mold Dr Martin Luther King into action, this is the kind of subjegation and second class citizenship that leads to uprising of a minority and civil upheaval. This would not be tolerated if he had been talking about a religion, race, national origin, or handicap.
aeonjoey 3 years ago
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Not everybody is for sticking their penis in another man's anus, believe it or not. and you call that disrimination? LOL please. ARC is 80% liberals, literally, so I am not surprised they got butt hurt (Lol) by this vote. Oh well.... liberals should have an understanding of DIVERSITY of opinion and stop looking hypocritical. You only alloy diversity if it is in your favor. That is just closed-minded.
Dllshockk 3 years ago
What a condescending POS this immigrant is, partly due to lack of mastery of English.
jerrydoubleu 3 years ago
Nice that a rusian can tell me a gay man who fought in the gulf war about my equale rights.
depfox 3 years ago
Yeah, that guy Viktor Choban is a mental case. This group of people was voted in by 300 out of 36,000.
His hatred of homosexuals probably tells something about his internal stuggle.
cryan71 3 years ago
yeah, his internal struggle is hatred versus trying to come across as good. I can see how thats tough for him. Obviously, when youre simply trying to pass a prop that does nothing but inflict someone else and not help you at all, its hard to make people see the good in that who dont have some divine hatred behind it.
odisbl 3 years ago
shut the fuck up
what u fight for
ohh yeah ure frreddome to be asss railed
u know what u need
u need hitler
shimanoconvergence 3 years ago
Huh, somebody said to me, "Yes on 8 is all about hate." Looks to me like the "No on 8" people are the real haters!
Niobe8608 3 years ago
Aren't you sensitive fragile thing?
cryan71 3 years ago
Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the peace-love-and-tolerance crowd when someone disagrees with their viewpoint.
Niobe8608 3 years ago
Right...
There's no tolerance when you attack people. And thanks for the stereotype, not every gay person is "peace-love-tolerance." Some of us real men will kick your ass for pissing us off.
cryan71 3 years ago
And...you prove my point by threatening violence if you 'get pissed off.' Besides, wouldn't you look real good smacking a chick around...
Peace: you have only if you agree with the gay agenda.
Love: you gays call perverted sexual behavior love, as in 'what's wrong with 2 people who love each other?' It's perverted lust, not love!
Tolerance: liberals only tolerate liberal viewpoints, otherwise it's 'kick your ass' time!
Niobe8608 3 years ago
Blah blah blah. I'd be happy to find some lesbians who wouldn't mind teaching you a lesson in civility.
Wingnuts blow up federal buildings and bomb abortion clinics. Oh, and as we have seen from all the republican and conservative sex scandals: cruise men in bathrooms, sexually abuse children and deal in child porn.
cryan71 3 years ago 2
That's right MOTHERFUCKER Anytime bitch!
aeonjoey 3 years ago
Fuck you Niobe. Think before you open your mouth. Intolerance and hate towards LOVE (sorry if you refuse to accept it just because you don't like the idea of it, but I'd challenge you to both prove otherwise and prove that the majority of straight "love" is actually love, then prove that it even matters legally!) deserves nothing but brutal honesty.
poisonous333 3 years ago
and what happens when you disagree? you dont say fuck you, you get the discrimination written right into the constitution. good job, youre SO much better.
odisbl 3 years ago
The very next meeting this gentleman said "prop eight is not about marriageand civil rights, its about sodomy" and the have physical harmed three people on campus for being homosexual, so yeah we "no on prop 8ers" we'll be up at arms for a bit.
MaybeARace 3 years ago 4
You are not disagreeing with their viewpoint, you are taking away rights, and taking away happiness from people. That is far from a fair comparison. How would you like it if people started to take rights away from Christians? Or your rights based on race?
yevgeniy333 3 years ago
But you can't because this country is base on in GOD WE TRUST. Not in JUWANA MAN WE TRUST.
TuiL0uMuli 3 years ago
Truth will always be distinct from lie, no matter how persuasively you argue for same-sex causes. Your side's attack on traditional marriage as a gay 'right' must be resisted. Gay marriage is a moral wrong. Period.
TuiL0uMuli 3 years ago
haha really? have you READ the prop? how would YOU react if someone came up to you and said "'scuse me, um, yeah, you cant really practice your religion because, gah, i just dont like it." and left and you never saw them again, but that right was taken from you? im pretty sure some people would act out while others stayed seated. hmm. funny how that just happened in the video.
odisbl 3 years ago
Be respectful -- you first!
cryan71 3 years ago
Yeah.. sometimes I get uppity.
Varass 3 years ago