That was very intertaining....bieng a Phil Hellene myself I am very inspired by Homer I am a painter and just finished a Trilogy of "Helen" ... you have a great speaking voice and portrayed the characters honestly! are you still performing this?
@TheArtistdancer I perform 4, 5 times a year mostly at the St Nicholas Ranch Greek elderhostle. But I am available for any group interested who can pay my transportation and a reasonable performance fee.
Terrific performance(s). Listen to scholar Robert Garland's "Greece and Rome - An Integrated History of the Ancient Mediterranean" and you'll see this world as it truly was. Average age: 25 Slaves didn't fight (although in some cases they were used as reserves). If your family had money, you had a horse and were infantry, if you were able to afford armor, you were a hoplite, if neither then you were in the navy.
You fought in wars about 3-4 months out of the year.
Very nice but you fell into the very simple trap almost imediatly. Homer, if he did exist, dis not create the Iliad. Home recorded the story which had been recited by bards for centuries.
i think im one of those few people who did read it start to finish...ever notice that everytime homer describes someone putting on amour, they always lose their fight?
Homer describes Paris pulling on his amour to fight Menelaus, Paris is whisked away by Aphrodite. When Achilles is described putting armour on, he fights the sea nymphs and loses. Hector was also described, and was killed by Achilles.
When I first became interested in The Iliad, I was not aware that there were many translations. I bought a copy of Fitzgerald's translation because it was the only copy available at the bookstore.
Since then I have become aware of the many other translations. I still prefer Fitzgerald's translation. Fitzgerald was an amature actor and brought to his translation language that was very actable. Though I hear Lombard's transltion is excellent.
I've got to go with Lattimore. It's age lends a sort of power and archaicness to the work. Making it too modern, I think, takes some of the force from it.
Whether Homer created the Iliad (i.e. from scratch) is debateable, many believe the Iliad was created and developed over a longstanding tradition. That Homer was out to make 'lots of money' is also questionable, and anachronistic. I personally doubt the Iliad was a entrepreneurial enterprise. There are many cultural factors that more likely had motivated the continuation of this oral traditon.
Whether Homer created the Iliad is debateable. Whether there was a Homer is debateable, Whether it was many who contributed to the creation of the Iliad is debateable. Never-the-less, the Iliad was created, and the creator, whoever, or whatever that was is known as Homer.
No Homer couldn't have been out to make lots of "money", "money", coin, isn't invented for that part of the world till sometime after Homer. But, I still maintaine that profit was his motive.
i love the way Homer uses characters like Achilles and Hector to show how demi-gods and humans fight, but ultimately they are still mortal with skin, bones etc.
Also the use of taunts and arguements between gods and soldiers
Maybe not the greatest author, but ties for the greatest poet of all time with Whitman/Basho/Shakespeare/Neruda. He is undoubtedly greatly infulential to ALL cultures and times though, so it is arguable that he is the greatest author of all time as well, but he has such competition!
That was very intertaining....bieng a Phil Hellene myself I am very inspired by Homer I am a painter and just finished a Trilogy of "Helen" ... you have a great speaking voice and portrayed the characters honestly! are you still performing this?
TheArtistdancer 5 months ago
@TheArtistdancer I perform 4, 5 times a year mostly at the St Nicholas Ranch Greek elderhostle. But I am available for any group interested who can pay my transportation and a reasonable performance fee.
equick1 5 months ago
Fitzgerald is the best translation IMO.
amaxamon 7 months ago
i wish he were my english teacher
zergki11ar 9 months ago
This looks very good. I prefer Chapman's and Pope's poetical translations myself. I'd love to see those dramatised as well.
Bregowald 10 months ago
Having trouble posting replies, will work on it and post soon.
equick1 10 months ago
I would love to see this!
Kakarot21591 10 months ago
@Kakarot21591
DVDs of Books I and XXVI are available. Check out the Homerproductions Web site to get information on how to order them.
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equick1 10 months ago
Achilles is young, just so young.
gingersful 1 year ago
Terrific performance(s). Listen to scholar Robert Garland's "Greece and Rome - An Integrated History of the Ancient Mediterranean" and you'll see this world as it truly was. Average age: 25 Slaves didn't fight (although in some cases they were used as reserves). If your family had money, you had a horse and were infantry, if you were able to afford armor, you were a hoplite, if neither then you were in the navy.
You fought in wars about 3-4 months out of the year.
spacecowboynj 1 year ago
I would LOVE too see this. how could I?
415Sterling 1 year ago
Very nice but you fell into the very simple trap almost imediatly. Homer, if he did exist, dis not create the Iliad. Home recorded the story which had been recited by bards for centuries.
wackyal3000 2 years ago
i think im one of those few people who did read it start to finish...ever notice that everytime homer describes someone putting on amour, they always lose their fight?
receiver2005 2 years ago 2
I never noticed, that's wild, I'll have to check that out.
equick1 2 years ago
Homer describes Paris pulling on his amour to fight Menelaus, Paris is whisked away by Aphrodite. When Achilles is described putting armour on, he fights the sea nymphs and loses. Hector was also described, and was killed by Achilles.
receiver2005 2 years ago
Outstanding! I am curious which translation you prefer/use?
mako2869 2 years ago
When I first became interested in The Iliad, I was not aware that there were many translations. I bought a copy of Fitzgerald's translation because it was the only copy available at the bookstore.
Since then I have become aware of the many other translations. I still prefer Fitzgerald's translation. Fitzgerald was an amature actor and brought to his translation language that was very actable. Though I hear Lombard's transltion is excellent.
equick1 2 years ago
I've got to go with Lattimore. It's age lends a sort of power and archaicness to the work. Making it too modern, I think, takes some of the force from it.
Stagolee22 2 years ago
love 2 c dis!!!
MsASparrow 2 years ago
Whether Homer created the Iliad (i.e. from scratch) is debateable, many believe the Iliad was created and developed over a longstanding tradition. That Homer was out to make 'lots of money' is also questionable, and anachronistic. I personally doubt the Iliad was a entrepreneurial enterprise. There are many cultural factors that more likely had motivated the continuation of this oral traditon.
jesuschristitsmike 2 years ago
Whether Homer created the Iliad is debateable. Whether there was a Homer is debateable, Whether it was many who contributed to the creation of the Iliad is debateable. Never-the-less, the Iliad was created, and the creator, whoever, or whatever that was is known as Homer.
No Homer couldn't have been out to make lots of "money", "money", coin, isn't invented for that part of the world till sometime after Homer. But, I still maintaine that profit was his motive.
equick1 2 years ago
Well done Mr. Quick As a ancient history and cultures teacher I to have done what you portrayed on U TUBE
James00359 2 years ago 2
He makes the characters stand out, but also so that u dig deeper into the modern emotions of the characters
rogueshdw 2 years ago 2
Would hope to find a performance in ancient greek sometime, but this "introduction" to the story is great albeit in english.
kyrkoss 2 years ago
i love the way Homer uses characters like Achilles and Hector to show how demi-gods and humans fight, but ultimately they are still mortal with skin, bones etc.
Also the use of taunts and arguements between gods and soldiers
rogueshdw 3 years ago 2
This is a great idea!
schwammy14 3 years ago
good acting this is.
nikkolamur 3 years ago
Maybe not the greatest author, but ties for the greatest poet of all time with Whitman/Basho/Shakespeare/Neruda. He is undoubtedly greatly infulential to ALL cultures and times though, so it is arguable that he is the greatest author of all time as well, but he has such competition!
drillsargentadog 3 years ago
Whaaaa? Whitman, Neruda and Basho are the three greatest poets in history after Shakespeare?
You're serious with this?
polymath7 2 years ago
Wonderful intro to the epic. I'm embedding this on my class Mythology videos page.
sensei48 3 years ago 4
Homer is quite simply the greatest author there has ever been.
azarimanka 4 years ago 13
Milton and Shakespeare are no slouches, either.
weepingforbrunnhilde 3 years ago