The collapse of these THREE buildings and the most heinous crime in the history of Planet Earth is increasingly rebounding back on the USA, every single day - YES, the entire structure of that country is being wired up for DEMOLITION as the seconds tick by.
The Explosion is going to open a veritable Black Hole through which the USA will disappear, and any other country which is stupid enough to be still connected to it!.
I like the part about the BBC editing the Barry Jennings interviews and misrepresenting him. Sounds nigh on identical to loose change and the coroner's (wally miller) description of the pennsylvania crash.
Interesting that when a faux pas occurs, truthers jumo all over it... "oh yeah well BBC said WTC 7 collapsed before it did, they knew, they must have know, bush gave them the script." and the BBC among others is labelled as 'blind mass media pay off to promote disinformation. them all of a sudden, 6 or so men with same names as some of the 19 terrorists found alive... "oh yeah, well 7 of the 19 terrorists are still alive, yeah they didn't do it, they're all alive in saudi arabia, the BBC said so
@EoTRrecorder You say BBC is full of skillful journalist but you do not address any claims of Alex and Jason in this video. So the journalists that you are describing are only skillful because you say they are. How could bullying lead to talking about building collapses the two are entirely unrelated? If you are bullied at school you go find the bullies that beat you up and you kick their asses you don't talk about people being murdered by our own government by explosives in the WTC.
Jones and Bermas reminds me at the movie dumb and dumber. They, as well as the main characters in the movie dumb and dumber, are very good in convincing each other... and of course their devout followers.
A little fact check will of course expose their delusion. But it is probably great and comforting to not check because it might blow their I-owe-the-truth bubble.
The freefall symmetric collapse of WTC7 and the 64% of freefall unform acceleration of the north tower, and the assymmetric 22 degree leaning south tower top section ceasing toppling and causing a symmetric collapse IRREFUTABLY PROVE controlled demolition.
Shills have to twist facts, lie and attack credibility because the science is on our side. Anyone who disagrees with 911 truth is either corrupt, stupid, emotionally invested in the official story, or they haven't researched the facts.
i just saw the last 15 or so minutes of the bbc video and i am amazed how unconvincing their attempt was to prove it's all like the official version says. if they could really prove it, it would be totally concrete and would leave people without a shadow of a doubt. but no, all it does it says that the people questioning the events are nuts and that they will never believe any evidence. then they insult anyone that is questioning the official version.
"Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks Church at a 911 truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (IN DETAIL !) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 911 event."
only do be discoverd by a 20 something year old you attacking the age of someone has nothing to do with the studys they are able to do its been proven in history the minds of the young are the most potent look at albert einstein he was in his 20s when he began uncovering tough questions of life
that made me laugh when he said about larry silverstein saying pulling ment the fire fighters ya no doubt you dont go to the bulding owner and say do you think we should take the fire fighters out lol thats not his decison
no it refers to pulling it down with cranes.the term pull it has never been a term to blow shit up. stop believing everything this man tells you without question
The biggest ever conspiracy to be orchestrated by a government in the history of mankind... that involved hundreds of thousands of people and impeccable tehnology....
Only to be revealed by a 20-smthng year old kid with a laptop.
4,5mld years of evolution,complex microorganisms and it takes only a some guy in a messy lab to come up with a ideal cure against thousands types of diseases.
This is the most basic and foremost question to the 911 conspiracy theorists.
If the US government was capable of masterminding 9/11, it would also have been capable of shutting a bunch of kids' mouth way before they start foaming out of their mouths.
Sorry but it is impossible for me to believe a conspiracy theory devised by some un-educated kids. U can believe whatever u want. I'm not going to argue on this matter.
"The film's greatest flaw is this: the men who made it are still alive. If the US government is running an all-knowing, all-encompassing conspiracy, why did it not snuff them out long ago? There is only one possible explanation. They are in fact agents of the Bush regime, employed to distract people from its real abuses of power. This, if you are inclined to believe such stories, is surely a more plausible theory than the one proposed in Loose Change."
How r they gonna snuff out these guys without raising more suspicion?And besides...people know the they are not key witnesses and that the naysayers aren't gonna believe them. Some key witnesses are
Barry Jennings-died just before WTC7 Final report
Kenny Johanneman-same thing. Left a suicide note saying he been depressed ever since 911
Benazir Bhutto-assassinated...Pakistani prime minister who leaked Bin Laden was killed by a German special agent.
You don't want to know the truth? Then go watch the news. Why do you care about these 9/11 videos?
Once again be silent, your ignorance is astounding. You claim people are lemmings for not following the majority, yet only half wits and brainwashed would dare follow your type.
LOL @ "the truth." People who suffer from extreme paranoia don't have a monopoly on the truth. I care about all fake conspiracies because it makes it almost impossible to bring justice for the real evils in the world. The 9/11 "Truth" Movement is now the face of dissent in America so now all dissenters are labeled as people who spread false information and propaganda. Now I have the same question for you. Why do you care about these 9/11 videos?
You also notice how theorists tell people to be open minded towards their theories but shut out facts so readily. And if you present factual evidence its been rigged or that you're just a govt. shill or something.
There are a lot of things that survive crashes and building collapses that are unexplainable, just because there is no answer doesn't mean cover up. That's a leap most logical thinking people won't jump to, why? because everything else that goes with your "theories" can't be outweighed with something that is simply unexplainable. Because so much of the official story is explained, and makes perfect sense to the non delusional.
I know you can't ever admit this because your world will go away.
wow, these guys suck... BBC rocks and that documentary rocked, at least the part I saw. I think these guys felt threatened by how good the documentary was and make up BS about BBC. Completely debunked
they showed alot of demols, the one on the hudson's building was an eye opener, they had the engr fron controlled demol on and he was proud of himsel, what was interesting was they showed how they cut the girders diagonally, and i think you have 911 pictures of girders with the diagonal cut, no wonder they got rid of the debris, im sorry i didnt write the guys name down but hes probably the guy that did 911
Why fly planes into buildings if your going to blow them up? Please don't say it was a diverssion because thats a weak arguement. Either way all you have to do is blame it on 19 muslims. It will still have the same effect. Go back to your dream world.
Bullshit it is, INDEED! ... And Jane Standley's buccal cavity is now her anus ... "a very small and honest mistake" she tells us! God help us from such entities, who really believe that we out here are all a herd of senile, doddering, brainless goats who will swallow ANYTHING!
We don't want the tomato source; we don't want the hollandaise source; we don't want the parsley source; we don't want the soy source and we don't want the caper source; we want THE BBC SOURCE! To date, the BBC's aguments remain about as strong as a wet Kleenex and as logical as a paper kettle! First, pass us THE BBC SOURCE, THEN let's discuss the 'dainty dish' before us on the table, but NOT before!
Yep! The sh+t really IS hitting the fan now and all the ostriches think it smells of roses!But Alex Jones is a TEXAN; he recognises the stink of the brown stuff!
The interview with the benign Uncle Phil (Hayton) of the BBC is HILARIOUS! - He couldn't remember he was in the BBC studio on 9/ll ... then the "Oh, it's coming back to me" chestnut! The 'innocent' frowns in all the correct places! Oh my GOD ... THE L+I+A+R, with all the best British acting techniques, failed him completely!
True patriots ask questions, you are right on the money. But only assholes like Bermas and Jones are fucking morons for accusing the goverment of mass murder. The same goverment that funds his radio station. What a fucking hypocrite. Speaking of hypocrites, where is all the money that the loose change morons promised all the victims. They promised all of their profits would go to them. To this day not one single family member of the victims have recieved a penny. Yeah they are very trustworthy.
they dont accuse the government, they accuse criminal elements within the government and the CIA that allowed the attacks to happen. The main focus is blaming secret organizations/groups like skull and bones, bohemian grove, bielderberg group and other occult groups. They didnt 'promise' any money to the victems family members, they said they would give money made via the cinema releases to them which they have done. Loose change hasnt made money, it has lost money.
They do to. They mention Bush and Cheney. Others say it was the jews. I have heard it was the CIA,NWO,Freemasons. I have heard tons of stupid theories.They did to promise. For a couple of morons who accuse the goverment of controling the media they sure are doing great spreading this bullshit on the radio.
joe biden for instance needs to be arrested for his association with the crimes of 911. he openly ADMITS meeting with the person (pakistan intelligence chief) that financed the lead hijacker on morning of 911. 911 truthers dont have "theories", they can only disprove the official myths. 95% of what alex jones says is based on credible sources and accrete. give me an example of "bullshit" so i can look into it, i can guarantee there is valid evidence to back it up.
well, the officially named hijackers, out of these at least 6 of them are still alive and well (google for sources). this doesn't meant that they survived the crash, it means that they wern't on the planes. It now widely accepted that some of the alleged hijackers were CIA informants. they were illegally allowed to enter the country because of the CIA, they were trained by the CIA at US Military bases, they lived in CIA owned accommodation, and now some of them are still alive.
Where is the proof?Documents,sources, etc...What you are saying are is more speculations.That is not evidence.I want to know where you got these reports from.That is the ultimate proof.Unless you have real cold hard evidence this is nothing more than speculation.You need videos or photos of them proving that it was after 9/11.Some real evidence.All the hijackers deaths have been confirmed by their goverments.There are videos of them taken from the airport.That is proof.Give me real proof.
There were never any hijackers...Nor planes...The planes were edited in...See it for yourself...The planes go right through the buildings as if they were a hollowgram and then ALL OF A SUDDEN...It explodes...Bolony...Nobody saw a plane that day except the people watching television...
That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard in my life. Do you really believe that thousands of people who saw those planes crash into the towers are liars? That just shows how stupid, blind, and idiotic your views are that you are willing to believe anything the conspiracy idiots tell you.
Alex Jones by Phone @ 575-464-3071. This is the previous day's show, updated daily for the M-F shows. (You can use 1 to pause and resume, 2 to Rewind, 3 to Fast Forward.) Pass this on to everyone you know. We need to get this out!
. . . the NIST director has determined that certain evidence . . is voluntarily provided . . not directly related to the building failure . . and that disclosure of that information would inhibit the voluntary provision of that type of information.
In other words: they aren't telling you all of their information. Only what they feel like. We can't check their work because they're not providing us with all of their information.
There is a lot more to 911 than people realize. Bush senior is a major player in the NWO! Why wouldn't junior be in this up to his eyeballs. Junior when forced into the 911investigation wanted Kissinger to run it. Kissinger is also a key player in the NWO. The argument that the POTUS is not complicent in 911 is absolutely ridiculous!
Become informed, take a look at what else they are up to!
Yes that is what the CT Industry does best, if they don't have enough dots to make a theory seem strong enough to sell, they use some 'creative editing' to create better dots. And then the drones take their mental pencil and start drawing lines to connect all those dots for other people.
Whats worse, the drones will even alter the dots further in the moment if they have to...before long...stories get so distorted they don't even contain any bits of actual events.
In fact, G's theory was responsible for much of the governments fictional answeres. For example, footprints weren't considered, which is bad, especially if one is to realistically calculate any momentum transfers from the force of one falling floor's mass onto the next floor, and so on. How can it be a complete equation when there were no footprints considered? Physics doesn't lie and his theory neevr sided with math or physics.
Then I suggest you take your findings immediately over to Jref, and confer with the minds there, explaining your theories regarding Dr.G's math errors, and begin changing the minds of those whose knowledge far exceeds the minds likely here on You Tube.
Well, it's almost like doing algebra and trying to gifure out the sum of x when you don't have the third number listed. The same thing ahppeend with his/their theories. They excluded and cherry-picked the evidence so that it could fit the governments official lie, like excluding the footprint theory for calculating any momentum tranfers. Kinda like saying 5 x 5 = 25, but with out the sum.
If Greening made a mistake the people at the Jref 911 forums would love to hear it, and would JUMP all over it to either confirm or deny. Seriously dude, if you are sitting on the only decent piece of Truther evidence..go..NOW!
Not being a math wiz myself, I will have to rely on my friends there to break this apart. If you really are sitting on the one REAL piece of evidence that begins to unravel this...then it's time for you to leave YT, and go to Jref.
Hope we see you there. AND, if your theory does hold true..maybe you should be informing the media as well. Nobel ring a ....well...Bell?
What is bad is the fact that MANY things were left out of the equations used by the gov. From momentum tranfers to the core supporting its weight x 7. If they were honest, they would not have cherry picked the evidence, which they did, by leaving certain things out. This is because they have an agenda. There was even no plateau effect to the towers when they fell, which is what should have happened in a normal building collapse.
Rather than debate that with me...why not go to Jref...you would like it there. There you can have a discourse with other people in your field and others, and really get down to the science of this issue. I have been scouring the net looking for others who have had the same results regarding greenings work, and I think you would be surprised. Maybe, you have put a nail in this, who knows....go to Jref.
JackNeedles: Momentum transfers? What's that? Never heard of it. OH, you mean like inelastic/elastic collisions? Dumbass. What we're dealing with is collisions that produce changes in momentum which is equal to the impulse of Force (Newtons 2nd Law). You can describe such collisions by using conservation of momentum when kinetic energy is lost in 'inelastic' collisions. What you are (attempting) to describe is 'elastic' and is actually shows you are a fool. God damn you fail.
Now, my students. To address teh goevrnments and the "scientists" equations that they used, including their Faulty Assumptions, lets go abck to root one. Initial mass nmf falling onto the floor below and becoming mass (n+1)mf plus floors descending with velocity v2= {n/(n+1)}v1 through a distance hf at which point it strikes the floor below and becomes mass (n+2)mf moving at velocity {n/(n+2)}v2, because n + 2 =???? So who can come up witht the answer. This is the same equation the gov. used.
You see, DR. G's theory on the collapse is totally flawed, because, mathematically, ti doesn't add up. I am debunking their scientists. They're a joke.
then go to the sites I referenced and deal with the math presented there.
of course you won't. It seems you would rather try to use math to stump those around you into thinking youve made a point...of course...an equation, is not a point. its an equation.
Okay, now, class. I will expand on this, okay. Lets now talk about Greenies theory.
We will assume this FEMA representation is to scale (as it seems to be), and therefore real-life distances will be proportional to the image's pixels. Examination of this graphic shows the basic inner (darker orange) circles surrounding WTC1 and WTC2 to be approximately 155 pixels in diameter each. The equation will give us the area of these circles, whereas r is the radius of each circle.
The diameter of 155 will therefore be divided by 2 to get a radius of 77.5 pixels. a = 77.50 sq pie, a = 18869.19. how many pxels are the dark orange circles in the 9./11 commission?
*collapses began with an upper block of n floors collapsing onto a series of lower floors as in the "domino effect". We shall refer to this process as the first stage of collapse. For this stage, (see equation 1), we have an initial mass nmf falling onto the floor below and becoming mass (n+1)mf. This new, enlarged, block of floors descends with velocity v2= {n/(n+1)}v1 through a distance hf at which point it strikes the floor below and becomes mass (n+2)mf moving at velocity {n/(n+2)}v2, ETC.
Your equation is irrelevant. No one is claiming the weight of the floors DESTROYED the core. The core was left STANDING after collapse, and since nothing supported it, it fell.
No, that is not what I said. And yes, the other person said that the floors collapse alongside the core and that the core was dependent upon the floors. It was not and my equation proves it.
This theory faces two problems. First, NIST's claim about tremendously hot fires in the core is completely unsupported by evidence. As we saw earlier, its own studies found no evidence that any of the core columns had reached temperatures of even 482°F (250˚C), so its theory involves a purely speculative addition of over 1350°F.
Second, even if this sequence of events had occurred, NIST provides no explanation as to why it would have produced global—-that is, total--collapse. The NIST Report asserts that "column failure" occurred in the core as well as the perimeter columns. But this remains a bare assertion. There is no plausible explanation of why the columns would have broken or even buckled, so as to produce global collapse at virtually free-fall speed, even if they had reached such temperatures.
This is why I asked you to do a simple calculation:
Calculate the total mass of the upper block of the tower, the gravitational pull on that mass, and the resistance of each individual floor. Please, remember, 20 floors did not destroy 90 floors. 20 floors destroyed one floor. 21 floors destroyed one floor, etc.
Any structural engineer with any kind of degree can tell you that.
Once again, answer my question. The FACT is that the core was made to support the weight of the entire weight of the buildings TIMES seven. Please calculate the mass of the floors and total number of floors, then that times seven and tell me how it could have collapsed the building. I am studying structural engineering. I know this equation liek the back of my hand. Stick to the facts. Math CAN'T lie.
You have yet to post that source. Post it, or message it to me.
We're not talking about the weight of the floors falling ontop of the core. We're talking about floors pulling the core as the fall. This throws the core off balance, and more than certain causes it to collapse; kinda like pushing a tree over once you remove it's connection to the trunk.
It doesn't matter. The fact is, if you read FEMA and 9/11 commission, they said that the core was designed to support the buildigns weight "times seven." What is the mass, then the total number times seven? Please stick to math, not fiction.
Once again. it does not matter if somethign did or didn't. the fact is the core was designed to support it's weight x 7, so please calculate it's mas, x 7, then the core index, then tell me the latter.
No. The mass of the floors times seven was enough to collapse the core, but the core only support it's weight times 1, not seven. So please, do my calculation because the core was made to supprot it's weight times 7.
Because you guys should ahve all the answers. Surely you all can debate me on a mathmatical level, right? After all, thats what the government did - or, should have done. Math can't lie.
I am not sure what exact pagge number, but I, like everyone here, have read millions of things to do with 9/11. Try googlign the typical rbeakdown of the structure. It's not ahrd to do. But once you find it, you will see that it was designed to support it's weight times seven.
It is in there. You shouldn't ahve trouble findign the structural breakdown of the building. Also, lets say it doesnt, that still does nott ake away from the fact that G's theory that the goevrnment USED in the commission report is severely flawed, because he never considered footprints to calculate any momentum transfers, which alone shows the floors or fires alone did not cause total collapse.
I didn't gig you on the 9, I could see it was a typo...but the other dude seemed a bit heated..and well...stress makes people picky. What about your math at Jref..any word yet?
And a response that dudes issues with your calc's?
If we assume even a SMALL section of ONE floor, say 60 tons, falls only 5 meters we generate 2,667,123 joules of kinetic energy. The velocity of that section is already 9.9 m/s (meters/second) and the average force of impact is 36,799,997 Newtons.
Now, since we can only assume that the underlying floors are hard and not soft, and that the concrete doens't give or bend, then we actually have 1,306,890,326 Newtons of force. I'll give a high estimate of 5,000 psi of force that concrete could withstand, which is only 34,473 Newtons... I hope from there you understand JackNeedles. That's just a small section. The physics holds up well when considering the building collapsed WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES.
Since I am not trained in the relevant math here...am I to assume by your comments that Jacks equation he posited is erroneous...as was suggested to me on Jref? Thanks for clarification...I am a critical thinker, but not too big on the math, lol.
MIT Professors see other. Question: How can you have a complete and controlled collapse?
Building 7 was owned by the same lease holder (a Zionist Jew) of the WTC, this building contained documents of Enron, MCI, AT&T & IRS phony depts. Bush ordered these documents there, all were under Federal investigation. All CEOs or major share holders were Bush's Frat brothers from skull & Bones...How do you explain that? Nothing hit the building and these documents would of landed these people in prison.
ClubCatz: Nice unfactual speculation. Zionist Jew, eh? Racist moron. So instead of just burning the documents, a "false flag" is done to which they "demolish" a building which risks a few pages flying away into unwanted hands. Wow. How dumb are you? Plus #7 had a huge section of it's south side destroyed from debris that fell from #1 AND had uncontrolled raging fires for 7 hours.
Dertygian, since you have all these formulas and explanations, I have a question. Let's assume u are correct about the massive damage to the south side of WTC7. How does asymmetrical damage cause symmetrical collapse? If the south side was so damaged, how did the north side fall at the same time? No tilting?
pokerjonezern: "How does asymmetrical damage cause symmetrical collapse?" The collapse was not symmetrical. The penthouse initiated collapse, the south side then collapsed first, dragging the north side with it. Have you even SEEN the aftermath of the debris? I doubt you have.
Dertygian .. Wrong. The building falls symmetrically. The penthouse collapses, then the entire building goes down. If you don't see the symmetric collapse, then your formulas and explanations are irrelevant because your sight has failed. Seriously, how can you say the collapse isn't symmetric. A gaping hole on the south side provides as much resistance as an undamaged north side. I am open to hear a plausible explanation, but yours isn't plausible.
Dear Dert: Your spin on "Asymmetrical & Symmmetrical" wording sounds nice. Mentioning Newton & kinetic energy maybe makes you feel smart. MIT specialist are not GED graduates. Answer this..If the floors gave out from the core, then how come the steel cores were not left standing like antenas? Fire does not melt steel and how do you explain the molten? A "few" documents?, they were smoking guns, slam dunk "IDICTMENTS". Another thing Zionist Jews are not Jews..like Fedral Express is not Federal.
Dert, learn the difference between Jews, Zionist Jews and Hebrews. Research on who made $ off of 911. If you believe that smart cave people fool the FBI,CIA,NORAD,Airport security & we over looked warnings from Gov'ts around the world,you're moron. Bush's Brother's company was in charge of WTC security up to the day of 911, he also was in charge of security for United. 16 Israelis posed as artist and rented the 91st floor prior to 911 on a project the called the "Bee thing". That's Murphy's law!
ClubCatz:"Dert, learn the difference between Jews, Zionist Jews and Hebrews." How can one be a non-Jew Zionist Jew? Racist moron. "If you believe that smart cave people fool..." That is racist also. Why do you feel it's impossibly difficult to buy plane tickets and hi-jack an airplane and crash it? Hi-jackings occurred often. You make it out like a James Bonds operation. You've seen too many movies.
Dert: I see you can not tell between the cultures, customs & titles. Yelling racist because you don't understand makes you ignorant, not smart. Zionist Jews are not Jews, but I wouldn't expect you to know this. Calling people who live in caves, cave people is not racist, it's called a fact. You're the type that has no clue on what is racism. I bet you believe Fox news too & you'll say fox is not racist.You better travel a bit Dert,you're silly.Go back to your politically correct phony world.
Go to Israel or for that matter go to Crown Hts Brooklyn and repeat that to one of those long beard, black hat wearing, diamond selling Jews out there. They'll go nuts on you buddy, you may not make it out of there. BoomBoom might get BangBanged in 3 min or less.
I don't care what THEIR OPINION is. People don't have to be a zionist to be a Jew. And by the way, NO ONE's bangin on this Boom Boom. I'm going to take boxing lessons soon, so my husband thought this would be a cute username for me.
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megamogx 4 months ago
reeks of israel...look at building 90 west street new york, was built in 1930's and was on fire..hmmmm it didnt collapse!
ciainformant 4 months ago
Mr. Hess was recorded on tape, inside WTC 7 after the North Tower had fallen. The only disinfo is that of JB and AJ.
Weirdo10o4 7 months ago
The collapse of these THREE buildings and the most heinous crime in the history of Planet Earth is increasingly rebounding back on the USA, every single day - YES, the entire structure of that country is being wired up for DEMOLITION as the seconds tick by.
The Explosion is going to open a veritable Black Hole through which the USA will disappear, and any other country which is stupid enough to be still connected to it!.
CUERVOBRILLANTE 10 months ago
BBC should now stand for Barklys bank corp
Just take a look who's now in the office since 2007
sue75lewis 11 months ago
BBC ALSO rewrote history on their website BS-ing... "WTC7 burned to the ground" 911 truth UK forced them to romove this lie☺
MarkB1ngham 11 months ago
I like the part about the BBC editing the Barry Jennings interviews and misrepresenting him. Sounds nigh on identical to loose change and the coroner's (wally miller) description of the pennsylvania crash.
halfglassed 1 year ago
Interesting that when a faux pas occurs, truthers jumo all over it... "oh yeah well BBC said WTC 7 collapsed before it did, they knew, they must have know, bush gave them the script." and the BBC among others is labelled as 'blind mass media pay off to promote disinformation. them all of a sudden, 6 or so men with same names as some of the 19 terrorists found alive... "oh yeah, well 7 of the 19 terrorists are still alive, yeah they didn't do it, they're all alive in saudi arabia, the BBC said so
halfglassed 1 year ago
This man is the living definition of a dick head. Also the typical isolated conspiracy nut.
Just because he was bullied at school about his looks he will rant to the end of his days about collapsing buildings.
The BBC is full of skilfull journalists. This man is not from the same planet.
The BBC is also free from Govt interference and commercialism - unlike all US channels except PBS but we all know that has little cash.
Now stop getting the NWO mixed up with Globalisation..
EoTRrecorder 1 year ago
@EoTRrecorder You say BBC is full of skillful journalist but you do not address any claims of Alex and Jason in this video. So the journalists that you are describing are only skillful because you say they are. How could bullying lead to talking about building collapses the two are entirely unrelated? If you are bullied at school you go find the bullies that beat you up and you kick their asses you don't talk about people being murdered by our own government by explosives in the WTC.
anewlow23 11 months ago
raise money to build a Replicate one of tower and crash a plane and see what hapen.
blueberrymaster01 1 year ago
Could either one of these guys be more of a dick? Thankfully no one of any importance listens to these clowns!
cantonear1968 1 year ago
@cantonear1968 they're just trying to get to the TRUTH.nothing more.
bubbilicious429 9 months ago
Jones and Bermas reminds me at the movie dumb and dumber. They, as well as the main characters in the movie dumb and dumber, are very good in convincing each other... and of course their devout followers.
A little fact check will of course expose their delusion. But it is probably great and comforting to not check because it might blow their I-owe-the-truth bubble.
BerkeleyBay 1 year ago
@BerkeleyBay My fact checking was what brought me to conclude that 911 was an inside job o.0 Bang goes your little theory huh lol
CokeSupply 1 year ago
We should've known right from the begining....Everytime you get a BUSH and a DICK together, somebody's gonna get FUCKED!!
CZRXCZR 1 year ago
Alex, learn to write english.......the word is "tales"
valyuntbe 1 year ago
also explain your y2k hoax
CarnivoreEschelon 1 year ago
check out on YouTube : baby beauty queens (BCC), thats the only good thing of the enlightened ones. they should broadcast it worldwide
RosarioTono 1 year ago
BBC is vile and untrustworthy.
Fight4Privacy 1 year ago 3
The freefall symmetric collapse of WTC7 and the 64% of freefall unform acceleration of the north tower, and the assymmetric 22 degree leaning south tower top section ceasing toppling and causing a symmetric collapse IRREFUTABLY PROVE controlled demolition.
Shills have to twist facts, lie and attack credibility because the science is on our side. Anyone who disagrees with 911 truth is either corrupt, stupid, emotionally invested in the official story, or they haven't researched the facts.
truthavenger99 2 years ago 7
@truthavenger99 really explain why it fell across vesy. and why wtc south hit the marriot.
CarnivoreEschelon 1 year ago
How can Bush get away with this......... how can government people be so silent.....
xtrabiotoxin 2 years ago 6
i just saw the last 15 or so minutes of the bbc video and i am amazed how unconvincing their attempt was to prove it's all like the official version says. if they could really prove it, it would be totally concrete and would leave people without a shadow of a doubt. but no, all it does it says that the people questioning the events are nuts and that they will never believe any evidence. then they insult anyone that is questioning the official version.
H3JT3R 2 years ago
"Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks Church at a 911 truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (IN DETAIL !) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 911 event."
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NYsentinel 2 years ago
alex you dont show full scenes either. stop being a hipacrite
arkbound1 2 years ago
they did the same thing with their 7/7 hit piece recently never trust the bbc
TheEvilbrood 2 years ago
@TheEvilbrood you're an idiot.
EoTRrecorder 1 year ago
people don't want you to think for yourselfs ....just like JFK the media avoids the topic .......thermite not jet fuel
gasdorf 2 years ago
support!!!!
inabear3 2 years ago
only do be discoverd by a 20 something year old you attacking the age of someone has nothing to do with the studys they are able to do its been proven in history the minds of the young are the most potent look at albert einstein he was in his 20s when he began uncovering tough questions of life
Bobmarley4201992 2 years ago 4
that made me laugh when he said about larry silverstein saying pulling ment the fire fighters ya no doubt you dont go to the bulding owner and say do you think we should take the fire fighters out lol thats not his decison
Bobmarley4201992 2 years ago 2
no it refers to pulling it down with cranes.the term pull it has never been a term to blow shit up. stop believing everything this man tells you without question
arkbound1 2 years ago
The biggest ever conspiracy to be orchestrated by a government in the history of mankind... that involved hundreds of thousands of people and impeccable tehnology....
Only to be revealed by a 20-smthng year old kid with a laptop.
Wow!
ykifle 2 years ago 3
4,5mld years of evolution,complex microorganisms and it takes only a some guy in a messy lab to come up with a ideal cure against thousands types of diseases.
Wow.
sorry for my eng.
peterene 2 years ago
You can not compare a scientific discovery with unfolding a conspiracy theory.
Please.
ykifle 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"Only to be revealed by a 20-smthng year old kid with a laptop.
Wow! "
So you are saying you think only one person has all the evidence?
You know what. You sound like a disinfo agent who always starts out with elementary arguments and attacks.
JSSTyger 2 years ago
elementary arguments?
This is the most basic and foremost question to the 911 conspiracy theorists.
If the US government was capable of masterminding 9/11, it would also have been capable of shutting a bunch of kids' mouth way before they start foaming out of their mouths.
Sorry but it is impossible for me to believe a conspiracy theory devised by some un-educated kids. U can believe whatever u want. I'm not going to argue on this matter.
ykifle 2 years ago
"The film's greatest flaw is this: the men who made it are still alive. If the US government is running an all-knowing, all-encompassing conspiracy, why did it not snuff them out long ago? There is only one possible explanation. They are in fact agents of the Bush regime, employed to distract people from its real abuses of power. This, if you are inclined to believe such stories, is surely a more plausible theory than the one proposed in Loose Change."
ykifle 2 years ago
How r they gonna snuff out these guys without raising more suspicion?And besides...people know the they are not key witnesses and that the naysayers aren't gonna believe them. Some key witnesses are
Barry Jennings-died just before WTC7 Final report
Kenny Johanneman-same thing. Left a suicide note saying he been depressed ever since 911
Benazir Bhutto-assassinated...Pakistani prime minister who leaked Bin Laden was killed by a German special agent.
Those are people with great testimony.
JSSTyger 2 years ago 2
Sorry. I think it is a great opinion and conspiracy but I don't believe them.
yes4me 3 years ago
How many structural engineers/demolition experts agree with these guys?
newdad1107 3 years ago
Something like 600 architects and engineers.
JSSTyger 2 years ago 3
Lol nice point.
Before the whole 9/11 truth even started that was what sparked my interest. The day of the events they claimed to find Atta's passport at the scene.
When they claimed that I was sold they were in on it since it supposededly blew out the building on to the sidewalk a couple blocks away unscathed.
aluckyshot 3 years ago
The creator of Loose Change complaining about BBC's "very tight edits". How hypocritical.
theunsilentminority 3 years ago
You don't want to know the truth? Then go watch the news. Why do you care about these 9/11 videos?
Once again be silent, your ignorance is astounding. You claim people are lemmings for not following the majority, yet only half wits and brainwashed would dare follow your type.
aluckyshot 3 years ago
LOL @ "the truth." People who suffer from extreme paranoia don't have a monopoly on the truth. I care about all fake conspiracies because it makes it almost impossible to bring justice for the real evils in the world. The 9/11 "Truth" Movement is now the face of dissent in America so now all dissenters are labeled as people who spread false information and propaganda. Now I have the same question for you. Why do you care about these 9/11 videos?
theunsilentminority 3 years ago
You also notice how theorists tell people to be open minded towards their theories but shut out facts so readily. And if you present factual evidence its been rigged or that you're just a govt. shill or something.
newdad1107 3 years ago
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themange59 3 years ago
There are a lot of things that survive crashes and building collapses that are unexplainable, just because there is no answer doesn't mean cover up. That's a leap most logical thinking people won't jump to, why? because everything else that goes with your "theories" can't be outweighed with something that is simply unexplainable. Because so much of the official story is explained, and makes perfect sense to the non delusional.
I know you can't ever admit this because your world will go away.
themange59 3 years ago
wow, these guys suck... BBC rocks and that documentary rocked, at least the part I saw. I think these guys felt threatened by how good the documentary was and make up BS about BBC. Completely debunked
USAneedsaChange 3 years ago
Discovery channel show on demolitions a must see
they showed alot of demols, the one on the hudson's building was an eye opener, they had the engr fron controlled demol on and he was proud of himsel, what was interesting was they showed how they cut the girders diagonally, and i think you have 911 pictures of girders with the diagonal cut, no wonder they got rid of the debris, im sorry i didnt write the guys name down but hes probably the guy that did 911
mosesmalon2 3 years ago
Just like the only thing you can say to people who debunk your fantasy of a government conspiracy is that we are all shills or on the payroll.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
I bet you are one of those idiots who believe aliens live on mars and Elvis still lives.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Why fly planes into buildings if your going to blow them up? Please don't say it was a diverssion because thats a weak arguement. Either way all you have to do is blame it on 19 muslims. It will still have the same effect. Go back to your dream world.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Bullshit it is, INDEED! ... And Jane Standley's buccal cavity is now her anus ... "a very small and honest mistake" she tells us! God help us from such entities, who really believe that we out here are all a herd of senile, doddering, brainless goats who will swallow ANYTHING!
Ravenbright 3 years ago
hahahaha
,HAHAHA!!!
FUCKING MORONS!!!
only an idiot would challenge video evidence!
RADICALS DID IT U IGNORANT FOOLS.....
,NOT US!
dggfhdfghdf 3 years ago
We don't want the tomato source; we don't want the hollandaise source; we don't want the parsley source; we don't want the soy source and we don't want the caper source; we want THE BBC SOURCE! To date, the BBC's aguments remain about as strong as a wet Kleenex and as logical as a paper kettle! First, pass us THE BBC SOURCE, THEN let's discuss the 'dainty dish' before us on the table, but NOT before!
Ravenbright 3 years ago
Yep! The sh+t really IS hitting the fan now and all the ostriches think it smells of roses!But Alex Jones is a TEXAN; he recognises the stink of the brown stuff!
The interview with the benign Uncle Phil (Hayton) of the BBC is HILARIOUS! - He couldn't remember he was in the BBC studio on 9/ll ... then the "Oh, it's coming back to me" chestnut! The 'innocent' frowns in all the correct places! Oh my GOD ... THE L+I+A+R, with all the best British acting techniques, failed him completely!
Ravenbright 3 years ago
I fukin love the music on this show.
fuktyranny 3 years ago
Jones and Bermas are nothing but fucking morons. They are an embarrassement to this great country.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
"Jones and Bermas are nothing but fucking morons. They are an embarrassement to this great country.:
true patriots are meant to ask questions and be against centralized power and authority
QymLym 3 years ago
True patriots ask questions, you are right on the money. But only assholes like Bermas and Jones are fucking morons for accusing the goverment of mass murder. The same goverment that funds his radio station. What a fucking hypocrite. Speaking of hypocrites, where is all the money that the loose change morons promised all the victims. They promised all of their profits would go to them. To this day not one single family member of the victims have recieved a penny. Yeah they are very trustworthy.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
they dont accuse the government, they accuse criminal elements within the government and the CIA that allowed the attacks to happen. The main focus is blaming secret organizations/groups like skull and bones, bohemian grove, bielderberg group and other occult groups. They didnt 'promise' any money to the victems family members, they said they would give money made via the cinema releases to them which they have done. Loose change hasnt made money, it has lost money.
QymLym 3 years ago
They do to. They mention Bush and Cheney. Others say it was the jews. I have heard it was the CIA,NWO,Freemasons. I have heard tons of stupid theories.They did to promise. For a couple of morons who accuse the goverment of controling the media they sure are doing great spreading this bullshit on the radio.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
joe biden for instance needs to be arrested for his association with the crimes of 911. he openly ADMITS meeting with the person (pakistan intelligence chief) that financed the lead hijacker on morning of 911. 911 truthers dont have "theories", they can only disprove the official myths. 95% of what alex jones says is based on credible sources and accrete. give me an example of "bullshit" so i can look into it, i can guarantee there is valid evidence to back it up.
QymLym 3 years ago
Ok then. Where did these morons get the idea that the hijackers are still alive?
AmericasFan 3 years ago
well, the officially named hijackers, out of these at least 6 of them are still alive and well (google for sources). this doesn't meant that they survived the crash, it means that they wern't on the planes. It now widely accepted that some of the alleged hijackers were CIA informants. they were illegally allowed to enter the country because of the CIA, they were trained by the CIA at US Military bases, they lived in CIA owned accommodation, and now some of them are still alive.
QymLym 3 years ago
Where is the proof?Documents,sources, etc...What you are saying are is more speculations.That is not evidence.I want to know where you got these reports from.That is the ultimate proof.Unless you have real cold hard evidence this is nothing more than speculation.You need videos or photos of them proving that it was after 9/11.Some real evidence.All the hijackers deaths have been confirmed by their goverments.There are videos of them taken from the airport.That is proof.Give me real proof.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
There were never any hijackers...Nor planes...The planes were edited in...See it for yourself...The planes go right through the buildings as if they were a hollowgram and then ALL OF A SUDDEN...It explodes...Bolony...Nobody saw a plane that day except the people watching television...
thelamb777 3 years ago
That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard in my life. Do you really believe that thousands of people who saw those planes crash into the towers are liars? That just shows how stupid, blind, and idiotic your views are that you are willing to believe anything the conspiracy idiots tell you.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
hahahahahahah
fuktyranny 3 years ago
look at all these videos the counter is frozen on them
76M880 3 years ago
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johnnyhaxor 3 years ago
Jones loves deriding the media unless they run a story that helps his opinion, then its "Look what they said in paper XYZ! That's proof!".
zeppelinesque 3 years ago
get that gap between your teeth fixed
meyer1737 3 years ago
jews had nothin to do with it im jewish
lpsh0rty 3 years ago
I'm jewish also. Difference between me and the victim orientated jew is I'm an American First.
The carefully spun and foisted, Fairytale of jewish integrity is as false as my ol' Dads teeth. Jews are not Angels incapable if heneous crimes.
This falehood, is a transparently choreographed criminal cover.
ezranpee 3 years ago
Sieg hail on all jews, if they have something with 9/11 to do, witch i think :) 88 o/
Xeretza 3 years ago
You have issues with grammar and spelling, "which" is accurate.
zeppelinesque 3 years ago
The ABC in Australia (Government owned) is showing this "documentary" tomorrow night. What a surprise.
vidmanx0 3 years ago
lol, the follow up to this is on tonight on the BBC in the UK
QymLym 3 years ago
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NIST's WTC 7 report disclaimer No. 3:
. . . the NIST director has determined that certain evidence . . is voluntarily provided . . not directly related to the building failure . . and that disclosure of that information would inhibit the voluntary provision of that type of information.
In other words: they aren't telling you all of their information. Only what they feel like. We can't check their work because they're not providing us with all of their information.
Criminal investigation.
bobbygnosis 3 years ago
5241
dproulx30 3 years ago
It was a total pile of shite what the bbc put on my TV i could,nt believe what i was watching .They totally convinced me it was a conspiracy
davyro66 3 years ago
There is a lot more to 911 than people realize. Bush senior is a major player in the NWO! Why wouldn't junior be in this up to his eyeballs. Junior when forced into the 911investigation wanted Kissinger to run it. Kissinger is also a key player in the NWO. The argument that the POTUS is not complicent in 911 is absolutely ridiculous!
Become informed, take a look at what else they are up to!
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TruthMeansLiberty 3 years ago 2
I love how Alex Jones complains about editing Larry Silverstein's words in the BBC documentary, yet he does the same thing in "9/11 Truth Rising"!
What a hypocrite!
"We are video editors..." says AJ. Yeah, you freakin' are!
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Yes that is what the CT Industry does best, if they don't have enough dots to make a theory seem strong enough to sell, they use some 'creative editing' to create better dots. And then the drones take their mental pencil and start drawing lines to connect all those dots for other people.
Whats worse, the drones will even alter the dots further in the moment if they have to...before long...stories get so distorted they don't even contain any bits of actual events.
It's sad.
jandarian 3 years ago
In fact, G's theory was responsible for much of the governments fictional answeres. For example, footprints weren't considered, which is bad, especially if one is to realistically calculate any momentum transfers from the force of one falling floor's mass onto the next floor, and so on. How can it be a complete equation when there were no footprints considered? Physics doesn't lie and his theory neevr sided with math or physics.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
*never
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Then I suggest you take your findings immediately over to Jref, and confer with the minds there, explaining your theories regarding Dr.G's math errors, and begin changing the minds of those whose knowledge far exceeds the minds likely here on You Tube.
How have your theories held up there?
jandarian 3 years ago
Well, it's almost like doing algebra and trying to gifure out the sum of x when you don't have the third number listed. The same thing ahppeend with his/their theories. They excluded and cherry-picked the evidence so that it could fit the governments official lie, like excluding the footprint theory for calculating any momentum tranfers. Kinda like saying 5 x 5 = 25, but with out the sum.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Well...how have your theories held up there?
If Greening made a mistake the people at the Jref 911 forums would love to hear it, and would JUMP all over it to either confirm or deny. Seriously dude, if you are sitting on the only decent piece of Truther evidence..go..NOW!
PLEASE!
jandarian 3 years ago
Well, how did this theory hold up at Jref?
Not being a math wiz myself, I will have to rely on my friends there to break this apart. If you really are sitting on the one REAL piece of evidence that begins to unravel this...then it's time for you to leave YT, and go to Jref.
Hope we see you there. AND, if your theory does hold true..maybe you should be informing the media as well. Nobel ring a ....well...Bell?
jandarian 3 years ago
What is bad is the fact that MANY things were left out of the equations used by the gov. From momentum tranfers to the core supporting its weight x 7. If they were honest, they would not have cherry picked the evidence, which they did, by leaving certain things out. This is because they have an agenda. There was even no plateau effect to the towers when they fell, which is what should have happened in a normal building collapse.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Rather than debate that with me...why not go to Jref...you would like it there. There you can have a discourse with other people in your field and others, and really get down to the science of this issue. I have been scouring the net looking for others who have had the same results regarding greenings work, and I think you would be surprised. Maybe, you have put a nail in this, who knows....go to Jref.
jandarian 3 years ago
JackNeedles: Momentum transfers? What's that? Never heard of it. OH, you mean like inelastic/elastic collisions? Dumbass. What we're dealing with is collisions that produce changes in momentum which is equal to the impulse of Force (Newtons 2nd Law). You can describe such collisions by using conservation of momentum when kinetic energy is lost in 'inelastic' collisions. What you are (attempting) to describe is 'elastic' and is actually shows you are a fool. God damn you fail.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Now, my students. To address teh goevrnments and the "scientists" equations that they used, including their Faulty Assumptions, lets go abck to root one. Initial mass nmf falling onto the floor below and becoming mass (n+1)mf plus floors descending with velocity v2= {n/(n+1)}v1 through a distance hf at which point it strikes the floor below and becomes mass (n+2)mf moving at velocity {n/(n+2)}v2, because n + 2 =???? So who can come up witht the answer. This is the same equation the gov. used.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
You see, DR. G's theory on the collapse is totally flawed, because, mathematically, ti doesn't add up. I am debunking their scientists. They're a joke.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
I'm waiting, guys. Need my students to solve these equations.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Ahh, guys. You're making me cry. I need you to sovle my equations. Come on now. Math is power. Lmao.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
then go to the sites I referenced and deal with the math presented there.
of course you won't. It seems you would rather try to use math to stump those around you into thinking youve made a point...of course...an equation, is not a point. its an equation.
debunking911
911myths
jandarian 3 years ago
Lol. I did. Dr G's theory is FLAWED. Like how the root of 5.1, plus pie could travel at the V of 7551.0000. Fictional. I just did debunk it.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
blah blah blah
SOURCE
idb87 3 years ago
Okay, now, class. I will expand on this, okay. Lets now talk about Greenies theory.
We will assume this FEMA representation is to scale (as it seems to be), and therefore real-life distances will be proportional to the image's pixels. Examination of this graphic shows the basic inner (darker orange) circles surrounding WTC1 and WTC2 to be approximately 155 pixels in diameter each. The equation will give us the area of these circles, whereas r is the radius of each circle.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
The diameter of 155 will therefore be divided by 2 to get a radius of 77.5 pixels. a = 77.50 sq pie, a = 18869.19. how many pxels are the dark orange circles in the 9./11 commission?
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Come on guys. I'll help you otu with the first equation, if you can sovle the second one.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
*collapses began with an upper block of n floors collapsing onto a series of lower floors as in the "domino effect". We shall refer to this process as the first stage of collapse. For this stage, (see equation 1), we have an initial mass nmf falling onto the floor below and becoming mass (n+1)mf. This new, enlarged, block of floors descends with velocity v2= {n/(n+1)}v1 through a distance hf at which point it strikes the floor below and becomes mass (n+2)mf moving at velocity {n/(n+2)}v2, ETC.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Come on. I'll award the person with 20 bucks who can break the equation.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Your equation is irrelevant. No one is claiming the weight of the floors DESTROYED the core. The core was left STANDING after collapse, and since nothing supported it, it fell.
Post that source!
idb87 3 years ago
No, that is not what I said. And yes, the other person said that the floors collapse alongside the core and that the core was dependent upon the floors. It was not and my equation proves it.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Please don't leave guys. I am having so much fun debunking you with math.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Too bad you don't read FEMAs own books:
This theory faces two problems. First, NIST's claim about tremendously hot fires in the core is completely unsupported by evidence. As we saw earlier, its own studies found no evidence that any of the core columns had reached temperatures of even 482°F (250˚C), so its theory involves a purely speculative addition of over 1350°F.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Second, even if this sequence of events had occurred, NIST provides no explanation as to why it would have produced global—-that is, total--collapse. The NIST Report asserts that "column failure" occurred in the core as well as the perimeter columns. But this remains a bare assertion. There is no plausible explanation of why the columns would have broken or even buckled, so as to produce global collapse at virtually free-fall speed, even if they had reached such temperatures.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
This is why I asked you to do a simple calculation:
Calculate the total mass of the upper block of the tower, the gravitational pull on that mass, and the resistance of each individual floor. Please, remember, 20 floors did not destroy 90 floors. 20 floors destroyed one floor. 21 floors destroyed one floor, etc.
Any structural engineer with any kind of degree can tell you that.
idb87 3 years ago
Once again, answer my question. The FACT is that the core was made to support the weight of the entire weight of the buildings TIMES seven. Please calculate the mass of the floors and total number of floors, then that times seven and tell me how it could have collapsed the building. I am studying structural engineering. I know this equation liek the back of my hand. Stick to the facts. Math CAN'T lie.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
You have yet to post that source. Post it, or message it to me.
We're not talking about the weight of the floors falling ontop of the core. We're talking about floors pulling the core as the fall. This throws the core off balance, and more than certain causes it to collapse; kinda like pushing a tree over once you remove it's connection to the trunk.
idb87 3 years ago
It doesn't matter. The fact is, if you read FEMA and 9/11 commission, they said that the core was designed to support the buildigns weight "times seven." What is the mass, then the total number times seven? Please stick to math, not fiction.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
What supported the core?
Where is that source?
idb87 3 years ago
Once again. it does not matter if somethign did or didn't. the fact is the core was designed to support it's weight x 7, so please calculate it's mas, x 7, then the core index, then tell me the latter.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
What the he..
Your equation is irrelevant.
What supported the core? Source.
idb87 3 years ago
No. The mass of the floors times seven was enough to collapse the core, but the core only support it's weight times 1, not seven. So please, do my calculation because the core was made to supprot it's weight times 7.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Soooooooource
idb87 3 years ago
'The fact is, if you read FEMA and 9/11 commission, they said that the core was designed to support the buildigns weight "times seven."'
"I don't trust anything the Government says."
-JackNeedles
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Yes. I don't trust any single thign they say. but I LOVE to sue their own fiction against them.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Perhaps you could post that source you claimed to have?
Unless you want to retract that claim, of course. That's good too.
idb87 3 years ago
No. the source is in the 9/11 commission book. You should have known this.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Could you explain your cognitive dissonance please?
That, and source the FEMA quote as well?
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Just go to borders and look at the book or look of the statistical facts on how WTC was built. Anyone can find it easily.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
You said you have the source.
Post it.
idb87 3 years ago
I sited the source from the 9/11 commission. Surely you're not that inept, right?
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Surely you could send me a direct source?
idb87 3 years ago
A page number, for example.
idb87 3 years ago
Just google the typical breakdown of the WTC building. It's not hard to find.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Why don't you just tell me?
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Because you guys should ahve all the answers. Surely you all can debate me on a mathmatical level, right? After all, thats what the government did - or, should have done. Math can't lie.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Source please.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
What page nubmer refers to the core supporting itself in the 9/11 Commission Report.
I'm going through it right now, so if you could help me out a little bit, that'd be great.
idb87 3 years ago
I am not sure what exact pagge number, but I, like everyone here, have read millions of things to do with 9/11. Try googlign the typical rbeakdown of the structure. It's not ahrd to do. But once you find it, you will see that it was designed to support it's weight times seven.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
If it isn't hard to do, why don't you just do it and shut us all up?
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Hey now, that's no way to talk to a scientist.
Needles. Dr. G posts on the JREF forum. Go there, post your refutations of his work, and start a dialogue.
idb87 3 years ago
Frank G. has been banned for some bad things.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
Good, he's scum. His theory is science fictional. And the government hired idiots like him. What a joke. At least its a good thing math can't lie.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Greening, last I saw, was a truther. Or at least skeptical of NIST.
Either way..
idb87 3 years ago
No, he was not a truther....far from it.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Cop-out. You said 'it's in the 9/11 Commission Report'. Perhaps be a little more accurate.
idb87 3 years ago
For the core size? Or the purpose of the core? If it is the latter, he said it is in the FEMA report.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
I was asking him to source his claim that 'the core supported itself'. He said it was in the 9/11 Commission Report.
idb87 3 years ago
Yeah, which is why I provided two options. Good luck getting him to answer.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
The entire mass.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
It is. I read the commission report over 20 times, but that was eyars ago. Please keep in mind 9/11 happened 9 years ago.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
Keep in mind that so far, I've yet to see anything in the Commission that says 'the core supports itself'.
idb87 3 years ago
It is in there. You shouldn't ahve trouble findign the structural breakdown of the building. Also, lets say it doesnt, that still does nott ake away from the fact that G's theory that the goevrnment USED in the commission report is severely flawed, because he never considered footprints to calculate any momentum transfers, which alone shows the floors or fires alone did not cause total collapse.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
JackNeedles: "Please keep in mind 9/11 happened 9 years ago." Umm... you mean 7?
Dertygian 3 years ago
Did I say 9? I should quit typing in the dark. I did not mean 9.
JackNeedles 3 years ago
I didn't gig you on the 9, I could see it was a typo...but the other dude seemed a bit heated..and well...stress makes people picky. What about your math at Jref..any word yet?
And a response that dudes issues with your calc's?
let me know...thanks Jack.
jandarian 3 years ago
I googled that. Nothing relevant came up.
Direct link?
idb87 3 years ago
If we assume even a SMALL section of ONE floor, say 60 tons, falls only 5 meters we generate 2,667,123 joules of kinetic energy. The velocity of that section is already 9.9 m/s (meters/second) and the average force of impact is 36,799,997 Newtons.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Now, since we can only assume that the underlying floors are hard and not soft, and that the concrete doens't give or bend, then we actually have 1,306,890,326 Newtons of force. I'll give a high estimate of 5,000 psi of force that concrete could withstand, which is only 34,473 Newtons... I hope from there you understand JackNeedles. That's just a small section. The physics holds up well when considering the building collapsed WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Since I am not trained in the relevant math here...am I to assume by your comments that Jacks equation he posited is erroneous...as was suggested to me on Jref? Thanks for clarification...I am a critical thinker, but not too big on the math, lol.
jandarian 3 years ago
MIT Professors see other. Question: How can you have a complete and controlled collapse?
Building 7 was owned by the same lease holder (a Zionist Jew) of the WTC, this building contained documents of Enron, MCI, AT&T & IRS phony depts. Bush ordered these documents there, all were under Federal investigation. All CEOs or major share holders were Bush's Frat brothers from skull & Bones...How do you explain that? Nothing hit the building and these documents would of landed these people in prison.
ClubCatz 3 years ago
ClubCatz: Nice unfactual speculation. Zionist Jew, eh? Racist moron. So instead of just burning the documents, a "false flag" is done to which they "demolish" a building which risks a few pages flying away into unwanted hands. Wow. How dumb are you? Plus #7 had a huge section of it's south side destroyed from debris that fell from #1 AND had uncontrolled raging fires for 7 hours.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Dertygian, since you have all these formulas and explanations, I have a question. Let's assume u are correct about the massive damage to the south side of WTC7. How does asymmetrical damage cause symmetrical collapse? If the south side was so damaged, how did the north side fall at the same time? No tilting?
pokerjonezern 3 years ago
pokerjonezern: "How does asymmetrical damage cause symmetrical collapse?" The collapse was not symmetrical. The penthouse initiated collapse, the south side then collapsed first, dragging the north side with it. Have you even SEEN the aftermath of the debris? I doubt you have.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Dertygian .. Wrong. The building falls symmetrically. The penthouse collapses, then the entire building goes down. If you don't see the symmetric collapse, then your formulas and explanations are irrelevant because your sight has failed. Seriously, how can you say the collapse isn't symmetric. A gaping hole on the south side provides as much resistance as an undamaged north side. I am open to hear a plausible explanation, but yours isn't plausible.
pokerjonezern 3 years ago
Dear Dert: Your spin on "Asymmetrical & Symmmetrical" wording sounds nice. Mentioning Newton & kinetic energy maybe makes you feel smart. MIT specialist are not GED graduates. Answer this..If the floors gave out from the core, then how come the steel cores were not left standing like antenas? Fire does not melt steel and how do you explain the molten? A "few" documents?, they were smoking guns, slam dunk "IDICTMENTS". Another thing Zionist Jews are not Jews..like Fedral Express is not Federal.
ClubCatz 3 years ago
ClubCatz: Further ramblings, nothing coherent. Attempt again litte boy.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Dert, learn the difference between Jews, Zionist Jews and Hebrews. Research on who made $ off of 911. If you believe that smart cave people fool the FBI,CIA,NORAD,Airport security & we over looked warnings from Gov'ts around the world,you're moron. Bush's Brother's company was in charge of WTC security up to the day of 911, he also was in charge of security for United. 16 Israelis posed as artist and rented the 91st floor prior to 911 on a project the called the "Bee thing". That's Murphy's law!
ClubCatz 3 years ago
ClubCatz:"Dert, learn the difference between Jews, Zionist Jews and Hebrews." How can one be a non-Jew Zionist Jew? Racist moron. "If you believe that smart cave people fool..." That is racist also. Why do you feel it's impossibly difficult to buy plane tickets and hi-jack an airplane and crash it? Hi-jackings occurred often. You make it out like a James Bonds operation. You've seen too many movies.
Dertygian 3 years ago
Dert: I see you can not tell between the cultures, customs & titles. Yelling racist because you don't understand makes you ignorant, not smart. Zionist Jews are not Jews, but I wouldn't expect you to know this. Calling people who live in caves, cave people is not racist, it's called a fact. You're the type that has no clue on what is racism. I bet you believe Fox news too & you'll say fox is not racist.You better travel a bit Dert,you're silly.Go back to your politically correct phony world.
ClubCatz 3 years ago
Jews are Jews, Zionist or not.
BoomBoom2055 3 years ago
Go to Israel or for that matter go to Crown Hts Brooklyn and repeat that to one of those long beard, black hat wearing, diamond selling Jews out there. They'll go nuts on you buddy, you may not make it out of there. BoomBoom might get BangBanged in 3 min or less.
ClubCatz 3 years ago
ClubCatz
I don't care what THEIR OPINION is. People don't have to be a zionist to be a Jew. And by the way, NO ONE's bangin on this Boom Boom. I'm going to take boxing lessons soon, so my husband thought this would be a cute username for me.
BoomBoom2055 3 years ago
Sorry BoomBoom...No disrespect, I thought you were a guy. Excuse the lingo...good luck with boxing, consider kick boxing instead. Peace!
ClubCatz 3 years ago
NO problemo Clubcatz! Peace!
BoomBoom2055 3 years ago