yeah thats what I though!i mean why couldn't they just shoot him in the arm of leg or just somewhere to not kill them. Not just kill a person because their personal opinions like " i hate you". I mean a normal person wouldn't even really want to kill a person attacking you right then and there. I mean, they would just think of how to get away. I mean that's the sane right of thinking. Not theirs. It just was totally fishy. I mean swords! LMAO! What a joke. Not justifiable .
ok hold on i'm new to studying the cult. I understand Gold is were the execs live and i think thats were they do there movies? but you said people [sp] are locked up there? Are these people that were never inside the cult or people who tried to leave? I would really like to get that clarified. thanks for your videos and information
Hi tory - I am a former staff member of he C of $ I have been out around 20 years - I am glad you liked my 3 point idea - I used to a real pain in their ass - I have been lying low for a while ... I think you guys are beyond amazing - best wishes !
Perhaps 2 "Within a short time"---but the big picture is HOW MANY SCIENTOLOGISTS DIE WHILE ON THEIR "OT" LEVELS, or SUICIDE. If you're "in" and reading this, just use Hubbard's FINAL PL:
"The way OUT is the NEAREST DOOOOOOOR"
(Hey! He used it, why not YOU?)
I don't buy that, re shoot to kill, sorry, I just don't. Many shootings are done to hurt someone enough so they stop, fall, etc.
Killing an X-Scio who no doubt went nuts DUE to them: not Ok.
So u are claiming that there is people being held against their will, and you also suggested to google the info.
why not suggest the FBI to google it too? because its a fact, right? or is it just gossip? because you would not just accuse without having evidence, that would be misleading, misinforming and just plain gossip...
Why not take action and take this evidence where it counts?
So the FBI cant do anything if the info comes from the outside? because its taken as gossip. what about the police? if someone from the outside calls the police telling them that he has seen a person being held agaisnt his will they will do something about it right away, because its agaisnt the law. so, why dont you? because its true...
Hi - I have been thinking about this all day - Anonymous could raise the money for a reward - How about $100,000 reward for anyone who provides evidence that leads to the incarceration (for 5 years or longer ) of any of the leading executives that run our wonderful "church" -
The money could could raised and managed transparently - I mean the individual executives - NOT "them" as a legal entity -
We could appoint a responsible trusted figure to run the "reward" (and protect them )
These scientology people are really agressive. As a 20 year old I did their personality test about 27 years ago and used my mother's mailing address... to this day she has been getting Scientology literature in the mail even though she has asked to be removed from the list on countless occasions. About a year and a half ago they started telephoning her... in attempts to recuit me... they just won't give up!!! Even though my mother (now 85 yrs old) has told them many times.. I dont live there.
Also, I've heard some justification that "One shoots to kill". That quote is from:
IF you're **hunting** one SHOOTS TO KILL".
Makes sense, as you don't want to just harm animals. To say one has to shoot to kill a person, In a residential area in LA, on "Church" property--and he's an X-Scio? COME ON!
To anyone lurking: If you're still getting fleeced for the OT levels, let this be a lesson to you: There are no OTs. If there were, you wouldn't be reading *this*.
I agree with you on every point except this one; anyone that has trained with firearms knows that one ALWAYS shoots to kill.
Though, I have a feeling that the guard did not actually need to shoot at all. The man was seen as an SP and I don't need to tell you how the Co$ treats SPs. So his judgement on whether to shoot or not was more than likely unsound.
Also, the man was an ex sci; troubled and confused from all the brainwashing, I can see him not being in a stable state.
Why did the guard shoot this guy? I thought if you were in the Sea Org you were OT and if you're OT you are CAUSE over Matter, Energy, Space and Time. Surely there would have been a number of OT's inside the building at the time if none of the guards were OT. At least one OT could have come out and handled the whole situation. Or does this whole situation point to the fact that OT is just a load of bullshit?!
Tory be careful out there physical attacks are way up currently from Scientology. Many videos keep poring in with the hit and run tactic. This way the Scilons try and say you were chasing them and if you follow them into CO$ property they then get you for trespassing. Police turn a blind eye but its clear as day no violence from critics only die hard Scilons probably by order. Funny thing is Scientology claims attacks but non thus far shown. Funny thing Scilons have more cameras.
Have fun with the new camera Tory! We love ya, hope you're having fun. Also, we here in Atlanta wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving and a very Merry Christmas!!! (or Happy Hannukah) Aww... poor whiny Scilons. That's why we'll keep it up, to help. It's the holidays, right? God Bless Us, EVERYone.
I love that new camcorder. I assume it has tape which records digital video on it, so the people talking about memory cards are barking up the wrong tree I think. The camera should come with instructions and perhaps some software for your computer to get the footage from your camera saved as a file on your computer. Then you can just upload it on youtube.
Upload -> Video File
I think the armed guard might have been hired. If you were DM, would YOU give guns to your cult underlings?
don't scientologists see that this guy who was shot was so messed up, that if the tech worked, he wouldn't be such a mess. or even, if they were such good "communicators" they could have gotten him to calm down instead of resorting to violence?
at what point do followers put the pieces together?
If a group was out screwing people out of tons of their money and getting away with it, I am sure there would be a couple of individuals here and there that are "capable" of taking matters into their own hands to correct it.
If Scientology, as the CoS delivers it worked and they delivered what was promised, then why would they need armed guards protecting it?
It struck me as odd too that they didn't shoot somewhere "safe". But again, swords are hard to ignore and avoid at short distance. My guess is that the safety guard panicked and just shot him... :/
A pistol is not a camera. You do not have time to frame and compose your shot, and you certainly don't get a rehearsal. When the decision is made to draw and use a firearm, you just shoot at what you can see right now.
This is true but in the case in LA with the EX Scientology person. Plenty of time and warnings given from the rent a cop. This means the rent a cop could have went for a different option like even go inside and wait for real cops to arrive.
Humidy is awful in Hement, sad that they are locking folks up. The church wants your money, time and energy to promote their own goals. Too many ulterior motives going on with the churchs, I was told they apart of the one world gov. goal.
The guy that was shot (Mario Majorski) is on $cientology completions lists and said he was going to a scn event in 2005! Of course, there are idiots posting (Tom Newton for example) that he was anonymous. Not true!
this is just me thinkin i think you need a firewire i know macs are really easy to use to upload vids to youtube but uploading im not good with cause iv never done it but i dont know if you can download iMovie 08 to windows
I wouldn't expect the gunman to be an expert marksman. Out of panic, he probably just shot. I do believe that the way he handled the situation was justified.
I know some people will be asking the question "why don't they just use tasers?" but I don't know about that... but it is getting a lot of people to ask "why does a church need armed guards?"
Hey...I've heard this "Shoot to kill", and all I can say is having been in *that* CULT, no, I don't agree with that. Also, sorry you feel my being happy is "Sickening"--there is a difference in my life, and what happened. I can experience, as I'm sure most can, more than one emotion. So have a nice week-end,
Did I say the F.B.I. Won't investigate? That's up to them...X-Sea org members told me (who were at Gold for 15 years) that "The top Executives of Scientology are locked up in the SP Hall". I suggest you google it. Re Shooting being a "Crime", I think you're putting words in my mouth. I said I thought they could have shot differently. Either say something, or not:Don't twist my words, please. That's what OSA Has done, for years.
I happy you had a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be watching your videos in Indiana for Christmas. I am going home after 40 years and visit my mom who I haven't seen in 40 years...long story. Take care Tory. Have great partys and fun. Less eggnog and more Brandy. He he he .
Heh. Interesting. Even though I live in Scotland, it's still fascinating to learn of more previously hidden headquarters of "The Organisation™" as I like to call them.
I dont get it, are you pro-anonymous or anti-anonymous? Either way your vids are entertaining
DuskyRope 1 year ago
Craving vids
KittyKatSpanker 2 years ago
yeah thats what I though!i mean why couldn't they just shoot him in the arm of leg or just somewhere to not kill them. Not just kill a person because their personal opinions like " i hate you". I mean a normal person wouldn't even really want to kill a person attacking you right then and there. I mean, they would just think of how to get away. I mean that's the sane right of thinking. Not theirs. It just was totally fishy. I mean swords! LMAO! What a joke. Not justifiable .
EntFan1 3 years ago
Anyone have a link about this guy getting shot?
This is the first I heard about it.
SeeYouNextFall 3 years ago
ok hold on i'm new to studying the cult. I understand Gold is were the execs live and i think thats were they do there movies? but you said people [sp] are locked up there? Are these people that were never inside the cult or people who tried to leave? I would really like to get that clarified. thanks for your videos and information
wolfy1488 3 years ago
never mind i read the rest of the comments
wolfy1488 3 years ago
Hi tory - I am a former staff member of he C of $ I have been out around 20 years - I am glad you liked my 3 point idea - I used to a real pain in their ass - I have been lying low for a while ... I think you guys are beyond amazing - best wishes !
wobble1wobble 3 years ago
Wow, I really hate defending the CoS but...
If a guy comes at you with a katana in each hand you have a right to shoot them. Even Mario would have known that.
Question: why would a guy pick such a strange, painfull form of suicide? Maybe we could ask his auditor.
kdb955 3 years ago
Scientology has had two deaths within a short time frame - one in the RPF - (an inmate with MS passed way ) - and the recent fatal shooting
wobble1wobble 3 years ago
Scientology has MANY deaths...too many to name.
Perhaps 2 "Within a short time"---but the big picture is HOW MANY SCIENTOLOGISTS DIE WHILE ON THEIR "OT" LEVELS, or SUICIDE. If you're "in" and reading this, just use Hubbard's FINAL PL:
"The way OUT is the NEAREST DOOOOOOOR"
(Hey! He used it, why not YOU?)
I don't buy that, re shoot to kill, sorry, I just don't. Many shootings are done to hurt someone enough so they stop, fall, etc.
Killing an X-Scio who no doubt went nuts DUE to them: not Ok.
T
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
again...
So u are claiming that there is people being held against their will, and you also suggested to google the info.
why not suggest the FBI to google it too? because its a fact, right? or is it just gossip? because you would not just accuse without having evidence, that would be misleading, misinforming and just plain gossip...
Why not take action and take this evidence where it counts?
Struque 3 years ago
The FBI has been warned, as have other authorities. Just like the polygamy story---THEY have to call, from within!
Keep educating all around them, you never know when one *may* see something, wake up, and CALL.
My best :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
So the FBI cant do anything if the info comes from the outside? because its taken as gossip. what about the police? if someone from the outside calls the police telling them that he has seen a person being held agaisnt his will they will do something about it right away, because its agaisnt the law. so, why dont you? because its true...
Struque 3 years ago
Who says we haven't?
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
@Struque you really think the FBI is gonna care about a foolish cult.
teta809 10 months ago
Hi - I have been thinking about this all day - Anonymous could raise the money for a reward - How about $100,000 reward for anyone who provides evidence that leads to the incarceration (for 5 years or longer ) of any of the leading executives that run our wonderful "church" -
The money could could raised and managed transparently - I mean the individual executives - NOT "them" as a legal entity -
We could appoint a responsible trusted figure to run the "reward" (and protect them )
wobble1wobble 3 years ago
I like this idea.
kdb955 3 years ago
These scientology people are really agressive. As a 20 year old I did their personality test about 27 years ago and used my mother's mailing address... to this day she has been getting Scientology literature in the mail even though she has asked to be removed from the list on countless occasions. About a year and a half ago they started telephoning her... in attempts to recuit me... they just won't give up!!! Even though my mother (now 85 yrs old) has told them many times.. I dont live there.
terryterrific 3 years ago 2
You're awesome fun :D
anon734734 3 years ago
the guy killed was an ex Scio.
ContrastY 3 years ago
Dear Tory,
I just downloaded that song "The Long Way Around" by the Dixie Chicks, haha. You made me want it :] I love it. Thank you.
Stay cool, young lady.
anonymootle 3 years ago
Also, I've heard some justification that "One shoots to kill". That quote is from:
IF you're **hunting** one SHOOTS TO KILL".
Makes sense, as you don't want to just harm animals. To say one has to shoot to kill a person, In a residential area in LA, on "Church" property--and he's an X-Scio? COME ON!
To anyone lurking: If you're still getting fleeced for the OT levels, let this be a lesson to you: There are no OTs. If there were, you wouldn't be reading *this*.
Love to all :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
I agree with you on every point except this one; anyone that has trained with firearms knows that one ALWAYS shoots to kill.
Though, I have a feeling that the guard did not actually need to shoot at all. The man was seen as an SP and I don't need to tell you how the Co$ treats SPs. So his judgement on whether to shoot or not was more than likely unsound.
Also, the man was an ex sci; troubled and confused from all the brainwashing, I can see him not being in a stable state.
Love your vids Tori!
Ltbird 3 years ago
Why did the guard shoot this guy? I thought if you were in the Sea Org you were OT and if you're OT you are CAUSE over Matter, Energy, Space and Time. Surely there would have been a number of OT's inside the building at the time if none of the guards were OT. At least one OT could have come out and handled the whole situation. Or does this whole situation point to the fact that OT is just a load of bullshit?!
yawawot 3 years ago 3
"Or does this whole situation point to the fact that OT is just a load of bullshit?!"
Exactly! Well put :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
I COMPLETELY AGREEE... they didn't need to shoot him dead.. It's just something they take pleasure in.. FUCK EM.. srsly FUCK THEM.
thelonius2000 3 years ago
Tory be careful out there physical attacks are way up currently from Scientology. Many videos keep poring in with the hit and run tactic. This way the Scilons try and say you were chasing them and if you follow them into CO$ property they then get you for trespassing. Police turn a blind eye but its clear as day no violence from critics only die hard Scilons probably by order. Funny thing is Scientology claims attacks but non thus far shown. Funny thing Scilons have more cameras.
BKF666 3 years ago 2
She's a cutie! Happy T-day Tory.
SPGoodman 3 years ago
Love you Tory!!!
anonymousamsterdam 3 years ago
Merry Christmas, Tory
Jmbrandon9 3 years ago
Have fun with the new camera Tory! We love ya, hope you're having fun. Also, we here in Atlanta wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving and a very Merry Christmas!!! (or Happy Hannukah) Aww... poor whiny Scilons. That's why we'll keep it up, to help. It's the holidays, right? God Bless Us, EVERYone.
DeadEnd39 3 years ago 2
Happy Holidays Tory! I'm happy you had a good Thankgiving! Hope you get all you're hoping for this Holiday season.
Beautyone2 3 years ago
I love that new camcorder. I assume it has tape which records digital video on it, so the people talking about memory cards are barking up the wrong tree I think. The camera should come with instructions and perhaps some software for your computer to get the footage from your camera saved as a file on your computer. Then you can just upload it on youtube.
Upload -> Video File
I think the armed guard might have been hired. If you were DM, would YOU give guns to your cult underlings?
SupremeRulahXenu 3 years ago
Tory Magoo + camcorder = dangerous
<333
seraph2211 3 years ago 3
don't scientologists see that this guy who was shot was so messed up, that if the tech worked, he wouldn't be such a mess. or even, if they were such good "communicators" they could have gotten him to calm down instead of resorting to violence?
at what point do followers put the pieces together?
ckretagentman 3 years ago
If a group was out screwing people out of tons of their money and getting away with it, I am sure there would be a couple of individuals here and there that are "capable" of taking matters into their own hands to correct it.
If Scientology, as the CoS delivers it worked and they delivered what was promised, then why would they need armed guards protecting it?
maxrisc 3 years ago 2
The Holidays are here! woo hoooooooo :)
If anyone knows how I upload this, please PM me.
I don't have one of those places to just put the SD card in. Ideas?
Love to all :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Thanks to my friend who is helping me :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
You can get an SD card reader that plugs into a USB port to upload your videos to your computer. Check Best Buy.
maxrisc 3 years ago
It struck me as odd too that they didn't shoot somewhere "safe". But again, swords are hard to ignore and avoid at short distance. My guess is that the safety guard panicked and just shot him... :/
RIP Epic Sword Guy.
Simanda 3 years ago 2
A pistol is not a camera. You do not have time to frame and compose your shot, and you certainly don't get a rehearsal. When the decision is made to draw and use a firearm, you just shoot at what you can see right now.
RoyalPrinceXenu 3 years ago
This is true but in the case in LA with the EX Scientology person. Plenty of time and warnings given from the rent a cop. This means the rent a cop could have went for a different option like even go inside and wait for real cops to arrive.
BKF666 3 years ago
I adore you, Tory Magoo!
Amonaella 3 years ago 2
Fall Scientology! Fall!
smoggydoggy 3 years ago 2
I am thankful that CO$ is dying on the vine.
darthspeaks 3 years ago 2
Humidy is awful in Hement, sad that they are locking folks up. The church wants your money, time and energy to promote their own goals. Too many ulterior motives going on with the churchs, I was told they apart of the one world gov. goal.
KamikazeKoscki 3 years ago
Not Hemet, it's in Gilman Hot Springs.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago
Same diff---they're all very close.
Hemet is the main town.
T
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
hey tory yuo liek ED?
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
everyone likes encyclopedia dramatica
TheSchimmi 3 years ago
The guy that was shot (Mario Majorski) is on $cientology completions lists and said he was going to a scn event in 2005! Of course, there are idiots posting (Tom Newton for example) that he was anonymous. Not true!
parrotnutz 3 years ago
What do you mean with that you cant uplaod it, just put the file to your computer and upload it. or are you haveing problem with your SD card.
Put the SD card in a slot in your machine[not on all computers] then copy/paste the pictures inside the SD card
sentimoko 3 years ago
Ok....I have my first video with my Camcorder and Hollywood---can anyone give me any tips on how to upload it to YT? ((You can PM me, please))
Happy week-end!
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
this is just me thinkin i think you need a firewire i know macs are really easy to use to upload vids to youtube but uploading im not good with cause iv never done it but i dont know if you can download iMovie 08 to windows
HoganQuake 3 years ago
last video?
ducksoup2006 3 years ago
My last video says "This video has been removed" and it's gone. Is it not the same for you all?
YT never said why. Any ideas?
Best,
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Ha ha ... very powerful weapon you have there, Tory. Looking forward for the vids you'll make. Have a great weekend you, too.
mollie2810 3 years ago
Tory, did YouTube pull your last video for some reason?
DanielMcDirty 3 years ago
hhmm the van idea sounds like it'd be pretty constructive. any legal issues anyone can think of?
Brettah31 3 years ago
Is there any word yet on the dead man's name, or on how much money the crime syndicate robbed him out of?
Desertphile 3 years ago 2
Is there any word yet on the dead man's name, or on how much money the crime syndicate robbed him out of?
Mario Majorski---check xenu (dot) net for a long thread about this man and Scientology.
Best to all,
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
"Mario Majorski---check xenu (dot) net for a long thread about this man and Scientology."
Thank you. Gods, this is so sad. Another life ended from Scientology. If there is a Hell, Hubbard is in it.
Desertphile 3 years ago
I wouldn't expect the gunman to be an expert marksman. Out of panic, he probably just shot. I do believe that the way he handled the situation was justified.
I know some people will be asking the question "why don't they just use tasers?" but I don't know about that... but it is getting a lot of people to ask "why does a church need armed guards?"
Relyt22 3 years ago 2
that new life church had an armed guard that killed a shooter.
pippigladstone 3 years ago 2
"that new life church had an armed guard that killed a shooter."
You mean real churches also have armed guards?
Desertphile 3 years ago 2
mega-churches do, and i certainly dont consider those real churches.
pippigladstone 3 years ago 3
happy late thanksgiving tory
AUSTINANONYMOUS1 3 years ago 5
I'm not sure what it is about you Ms. Christman, but you give me hope for the future.
Keep on keepin' on.
TehBloggaar 3 years ago 6
Hey...I've heard this "Shoot to kill", and all I can say is having been in *that* CULT, no, I don't agree with that. Also, sorry you feel my being happy is "Sickening"--there is a difference in my life, and what happened. I can experience, as I'm sure most can, more than one emotion. So have a nice week-end,
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Did I say the F.B.I. Won't investigate? That's up to them...X-Sea org members told me (who were at Gold for 15 years) that "The top Executives of Scientology are locked up in the SP Hall". I suggest you google it. Re Shooting being a "Crime", I think you're putting words in my mouth. I said I thought they could have shot differently. Either say something, or not:Don't twist my words, please. That's what OSA Has done, for years.
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Miss Tory, your new red camera matches your red shirt and (I think) your red glasses. I suspect a theme coming on. Hehe. Good for you!
DavidNelsonUtah 3 years ago 2
:) Thank you ! I hope I can figure out how to upload the new films to YouTube. Have a great week-end, one and ALL :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
tory, you're always so upbeat
and it's contagious! :D
happy belated turkey day! i'm thankful for Tory being absolutely stunning as always :D
ClappingForChlamydia 3 years ago 4
Love your new toy!
standingstrange 3 years ago 2
I happy you had a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be watching your videos in Indiana for Christmas. I am going home after 40 years and visit my mom who I haven't seen in 40 years...long story. Take care Tory. Have great partys and fun. Less eggnog and more Brandy. He he he .
standingstrange 3 years ago 5
The Tory Cam!
AnonBane 3 years ago
You look smashing in that shade of red Tory! Have an awesome weekend!
Euterperocks 3 years ago 2
Thanks you all! I love you're in Scotland :)
I'm part Scottish (and English, Irish, and German!) Woo hoo....off to party.
Love to all,
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
We love you Tory! keep up the good fight.
soulinite 3 years ago 5
Looking a living healthy, Magoo. Peace out.
BleaCliath 3 years ago 4
Can't wait for the new vids, Tory! I'm happy you had a good Thanksgiving!
TomPaineII 3 years ago 4
Heh. Interesting. Even though I live in Scotland, it's still fascinating to learn of more previously hidden headquarters of "The Organisation™" as I like to call them.
MartinusPrime 3 years ago 4
ur the best
imbarisaxy 3 years ago 3