Vid12 Volcano Cell Hydrogen Generator Assembly (HHO, Brown's Gas, Hydroxy)

[barcenasfrank]

I would assume that the more surface area you have, the more gas will generate. So maybe we should be thinking about concentric mesh spheres.

[randick009]

are the nylon bolts important? i feel like i want to use stainless bolts. and also wouldnt the zip ties melt from the temp of the water? id love some feedback thanks

[SilentSlayer94]

Hey, nice video! Is that system very efficient? How much LPM do you produce (it can be an approximation...).

Thanks!

[HHO4ALL]

@SilentSlayer94 I improved on this design with the HHO Generator on Video #15 /watch?v=gj58AiuimSA

It produces a little more than 1 liter per minute.

[SilentSlayer94]

@HHO4ALL Wow that's pretty good considering it's a pretty small cell. Awesome job :)

[KoN312]

Nice! Subbed!

[fuelban]

Just watched you’re video again guy, the S/S cable tie is a cool idea, truth be told I struggled with this part myself, how to attach the electric, but this way you use is very neat, simple and cool, I will try it too.

Thanks.

Thom.

[tannertargus]

if you were to put more neutral cups in between the positive and negative, would you have more hydrogen output?

[HHO4ALL]

@tannertargus It would provide you with more surface area, but would also create a greater distance between the POS & NEG connections, causing reduced electrical current to each connection. Using the following configuration would fix the dissipation of current. Neg Neutral Neutral Pos Neutral Neutral Neg 7 Cups At 12v = each cup would have 1.7V You could double stack the neutrals to get extra surface area.

[fuelban]

Hi interesting video, I experimented with cups/cones, and such shapes, I read a German university PDF file, which in experiments they found that 38 degrees of interface was most efficient for cones, cant find the dam file though for you, mmmmm I need a course on filing, and file keeping LOL.

Thom in Scotland.

[anrew16]

could you test and figure the numbers of a setup with 40 total cups, 30 active and 10 "dead", with the normal zip-tie spacing. the setup being +-+-n+-+-n, you know, just for kicks...

[legogunguy001]

Where did you find the stainless steel cable tie?

[HHO4ALL]

@legogunguy001

I found it at Home Depot. Ask them to show you where the cable ties are and you will find them.

[legogunguy001]

@HHO4ALL O.K. Thanks for your help

[draghetto95]

too neutrals cup

[Haarmonics]

Did I hear you mention something about neutral cups? What would the point of that be?

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Hey HHO4ALL, I was thinking have you thought about using Stainless Steel Funnels instead of cups? seems like it would help direct the gas more efficiently.

[HHO4ALL]

I never thought of that. Good idea.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

I want to try using really small diameter stainless steel ball bearings in a jar, I have used Stainless Steel Wool compactions and that works really well, production is excellent.

thanks HHO4ALL

Jerry

[HHO4ALL]

That sounds like a great idea.

Maybe you could use vinyl window screening to keep the bb's separate.

You could put together a cell that would have a much larger reactive surface area in a smaller area.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

how come you just don't space the cups up top with Teflon washers? instead of inserting Zip ties.

[HHO4ALL]

I tried it with washers before and it obstructs the escaping gas. With the cable ties I never had that problem.

[partwerks]

My electrician mentioned about using lye and the need for having white vinegar in the bubbler to neutralize the lye in the hho gas before it enters into the engine. He says it can eat up the aluminum??

Also says that need to regulate it as not to lean out the fuel into the engine as it will get hot?

[HHO4ALL]

I've heard of adding vinegar to the bubbler also, but I use a 2 stage bubbler to filter out impurities.

I have also seen people using aquarium bubble stones to filter any harmful vapors from the HHO gas. I believe the term is scrubbing.

Using an EFIE you can dial in the proper fuel mixture. This is also necessary on most newer vehicles, because the O2 Sensors on the intake and exhaust will increase the amount of fuel to compensate for the added oxygen in the system.

[jupy921]

Stainless steel Cable tie's, Brilliant! Way better then electric fence wire. If anyone is interested, the part Number on these 2.5 oz Condiment Cups is (33107).

[jacobgarcia1990]

quick question

what section/department of walmart did you find the s.s. cups ?

iv'e asked employees but they have no idea what i am talking about

thanx

[HHO4ALL]

They are called condiment cups and are located on the aisle that has toothpick holders, napkin holders, etc.

If you tell them that you are looking for stainless condiment cups, they should be able to point you in the right direction.

[coolcell1967]

Let everyone know search ebay for wire shrink wrap. I found 192 pre-cut pieces 6 inches long for $15.92.

Hope this helps everyone out.

Keep up the good work HHO4ALL

[coolcell1967]

Quick question do you ruff up the neural caps to?

[HHO4ALL]

Every cup gets scratched up, because neutrals create gas also. If I had a belt sander, it would make things easier.

[coolcell1967]

Can you please answer the Mystery question.

Where do you get the shrink wrap or what kind is it? I have a Lowes Hardware do they have it. I have asked them and there jaws just drop to the ground with what?

Great video I think you are going to change HHO design forever. Really Amazed!

[HHO4ALL]

I picked it up at Home Depot in a pack that had several different sizes. I believe you can buy heatshrink at Radio Shack also.

Depending on the size of the wire that you are looking to wrap, you will want to bring a wire sample with you so you can make sure it will fit.

[HHO4ALL]

Gardner Bender 4 In. 26-Pc. Heat Shrink Tubing Assortment

Model HST-AST

$1.97/EA Each

[kissmyhho]

gday mate,you do actually need to have spacers in between the neautrals other wise they will not work as individual cells. trust me.... i have built hho cells for over a year now and with mmw of 6.0.

regards andy

[HHO4ALL]

With my design the neutral cups do not require spacers, because when connected they act as a single Neutral cup with a much larger surface area. (Basically 1 BIG Neutral)

Spacers placed on the Positive and Negative cups are needed to keep them from touching the neutral cups.

It required out-of-the-box thinking to come up with this solution, so I understand if some people can't wrap their minds around this!

I will post the video response here, so you can see what I am saying is true.

[HHO4ALL]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any input that people are willing to give me.

I'm just trying to do something out of the ordinary, because that is what I do.

I have tried my design with spacers in between each neutral and it did work okay, but I am trying other ideas to hopefully find something that will make my cell smaller and more efficient.

[RisingSun350]

You need a Drill Press! hahaha fast and easy!

Good Assembly Tutorial!!! Your Video are getting better!

[HHO4ALL]

A drill press is on my list of things to get, but the holidays bled me dry, so I guess I'm gonna have to continue hand drilling these things.

[HHO4ALL]

Oh yeah, I forgot to say thank you.

I'm trying to make the videos better, but I'm new to this video recording stuff, so it may take a few more videos before I get the hang of it.

[RisingSun350]

You and me both. I was never much for public speaking but who knew!