Baba Ali: "I don't recognize this (media presented) religion as Islam".
That's fair enough but if your words have any integrity, you will denounce the Sharia Law punishments of stoning, hanging, beheading etc of adulterers, homosexuals and blasphemers/apostates as the brutal abuses of basic human rights that they are.
Right?
If you cannot, every single word you have to say about the 'hijacking' of Islam is utterly worthless.
@MusicIzMySavior 1) Of course those "punishments" are mentioned in the bible - the same place Mohammed got the rest of his 'inspiration' - and for anyone not plain nasty or fearful through indoctrination, shows exactly how unpleasant and un-godly Judaism, Christianity and Islam all are.
@MusicIzMySavior 2) However, though all the 'holy' books recommend brutal and obscene 7th century barbarity, only Islam currently practices - legally by Sharia 'jurisprudence' - the depraved stoning and hanging of those exercising basic human rights.
@MusicIzMySavior 3) What is disturbing for every non-Muslim in non-Muslim majority secular democratic countries is the silence from the increasing numbers of Muslims amongst us. Were informed to view the majority as moderate' but reliable surveys tell us that 80% of young Muslims under 35 (the future) wholly agree with and advocate this repugnant 'justice'.
@MusicIzMySavior 4) I talk to Muslim mothers while waiting to pick up my children from school and though they say they "don't like it" (repellant Sharia 'justice'), they also say they would never stand against it. Thus my comparison to the the silence by 'moderates' in Nazi Germany which resulted in genocide, war and the deaths of millions.
No-one hijacked your religion. The terrorists and "Islam-will-conquer" brigade are only 'interpreting' the 'holy' books. More extremely than the majority of Muslims perhaps but the silence from the majority over Sharia Law (stonings, hangings, beheadings for acts not even consider crimes in secular countries) mirrors exactly the silence of the 1930s German population concerning Nazi atrocities. Until this changes radically, why should we not view any Islamic symbol as a Swastika?
Abrogation and Surah 9 are why moderate Muslims have so much trouble with Muslim terrorists.
The terrorists have stronger religious support for their actions: Allah commands them to fight unbelievers. This command abrogates earlier peaceful commands.
Doctrine of Abrogation (Surah 2:106): "Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?"
Meaning: When two verses in the Qur'an disagree, obey the latter.
Problem: Tradition says Surah 9 is the last, its verses abrogate earlier ones. 9:5, the "Verse of the Sword," commands Muslims to "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them."
So: Allah-mandated warfare abrogates peace w/ nonMuslims.
he's right, there is a constructive side and there is a destructive side to any religion, the destructive side needs to go but the constructive side should be allowed as that is more intellectually advanced. But there is a constructive direction from Geert also and other nationalists, europe does have an immigration problem which tends to be from islam origin, native cultures here in europe are a dying breed. we as you need to preserve our true identity, also this is dying thanks to corporations
Salam , but I ahve to tell you something some people just don't wanna understand the Islam they dont change their minds even if th truth is rigth in front of thier nose
You're right that the media doesn't represent Islam accurately - Islam currently preaches the execution of the following of our fellow citizens: apostates, married adulterers, homosexuals, atheists, and blasphemers.
You wouldn't know this watching the media. The media focuses on individual Muslims, not Islamic ideology. This is the reason for the continuing confusion around Islam - some Muslims agree with Islamic teachings of execution, and some Muslims don't. What doesn't change is Islam.
yeah sure some are money grabbing swine but is that really justified just because they think a little differently?
you've got to give people some freedom of expression, you never know it could actually make things better to have new ideas following through civilization.
assalamu alaikumbrother, whatever you said true..may allah will give you more reward. insha allah we all our brothers and sisters will meet in heaven with plenty of happiness. looking forward more your videos.
Some people are totaly nuts!Just 'cause someone who calls himself a Muslim does something bad,doesn't mean each and every one of them is like that!Treating people like that will only make the frustrated ones even more outraged and most important:it hurts the good,peace loving,friendly Muslims.
This world's going insane,haven't we learned a thing of the stuff that hapened around the 1940's?Sadly we're going the exact same way,but this time the victims aren't Jews...
What about the past history? 90 million Hindus are massacred by invading Islamic bigots. Wherever Islam has ruled the non-Muslims life was miserable to say the least. I hope and pray that this irreligion called Islam will one day rejected by all human beings.
The whole thing is that not all Muslims do te same. Those people aren't good muslims at all, because there's no non-sect religion telling you to be a terrorist.
By the way, I'm raised a Christian and converted to Wicca, so I'm pretty objective.
"Strike terror (into the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies." Surah 8:60
"Fight (kill) them (non Muslims) and Allah will punish (torment) them by your hands, cover them with shame." Surah 9:14
"I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah." Surah 8:12-1
What was that about Muslim terrorist being an oxymoron?
you really need to understand the context of this verse
[3:150] GOD alone is your Lord and Master, and He is the best supporter.
[3:151] We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, since they set up besides GOD powerless idols. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode for the transgressors!
the disbelievers are the idol worshippers in Mecca at the time of the prophet, not christians or jews (The People of The Book)
peaceful religion? we do not base our concerns on the idle rantings of one or two confused muslims. your spiritual leaders put contracts out on peoples lives. find me one catholic priest or christian minister who advocates killing people in the name of christiantity and i will continue to have a dialogue. until then, i will recognize you by the fruits of your fanatacism.
There are catholic priests who abuse little boys, only so little but they are there.. and what about Geert, he is judging islam based on the media, only to create a riot within our ministry.. The guy is all problems, but no solutions. I am from Holland and i have never seen a burka in my live.. My nearest islamic centre 20 km.. nearest church about 1 km. The guy is exadurating.
dude, it's still one-sided. your thoughts started objective then went to the subjective. It's really not about Islam, Christianity, Budhism and all. It's about people who made these heaven sent knowledge into a religion. Jesus hated religion. Religion keeps popping up making a great divided. I go for no religion at all. I have a God and it's the same as your God, but it does not make me Christian or a Muslim. here's an oxymoron, christian-religion, Islamic-Religion. think about it.
on the end you said muslims and terrorist are the oppoite of each other, so are the hijackers of the plains at 9/11 not muslims or wasn't that a terroist attack?
this goes both way's. How many mebers of parliment do you see on arbic telivision, only geert wilders (the one with the movie and no brain).
We have serveral moslims in the parliment no arbic network ever interviews them. Most of the dutch population only supports this movie because some muslims SOME, threaten holland because of it. Yes some muslims use their religion to jugde a movie that doesn't exit yet, they are also Hijacked your religion.
retard. I think the tooth fairy stole too many of your teeth. Did you get rejected from the folks over at hollywood so you make crappy wannabe films on youtube and try and act like a superstar?
hey mate you might think that you are all funny and haha but you are not saying the true. if you actually watch the news and see the conflicts caused around the world there are always muslims involved in this. Maybe you can dumb somebody with this video but after I read Koran all I could see was that your religion is about to kill and destroy everything that is not Allah. You are only a growing mass of people with no brain cells so it is us who will win in the end.
i think its time for you to watch some free channels like aljazeera. the media you are familiar with is agianst islam thats why they are brain washing you. theu never show good muslims. do you know who is behind 9/11?
@tsumiageta seriously, are you SO dumb to watch the media? i mean, come on. at the moment everyone's againt the muslims.. and indeed, i agree with alhabon. Where does the quran say kill and destroy? :S
Baba Ali: "I don't recognize this (media presented) religion as Islam".
That's fair enough but if your words have any integrity, you will denounce the Sharia Law punishments of stoning, hanging, beheading etc of adulterers, homosexuals and blasphemers/apostates as the brutal abuses of basic human rights that they are.
Right?
If you cannot, every single word you have to say about the 'hijacking' of Islam is utterly worthless.
blackmore4 1 year ago
@blackmore4 those punishments are mentioned in the bible, even harsher punishments ..
MusicIzMySavior 1 year ago
@MusicIzMySavior 1) Of course those "punishments" are mentioned in the bible - the same place Mohammed got the rest of his 'inspiration' - and for anyone not plain nasty or fearful through indoctrination, shows exactly how unpleasant and un-godly Judaism, Christianity and Islam all are.
blackmore4 1 year ago
@MusicIzMySavior 2) However, though all the 'holy' books recommend brutal and obscene 7th century barbarity, only Islam currently practices - legally by Sharia 'jurisprudence' - the depraved stoning and hanging of those exercising basic human rights.
blackmore4 1 year ago
@MusicIzMySavior 3) What is disturbing for every non-Muslim in non-Muslim majority secular democratic countries is the silence from the increasing numbers of Muslims amongst us. Were informed to view the majority as moderate' but reliable surveys tell us that 80% of young Muslims under 35 (the future) wholly agree with and advocate this repugnant 'justice'.
blackmore4 1 year ago
@MusicIzMySavior 4) I talk to Muslim mothers while waiting to pick up my children from school and though they say they "don't like it" (repellant Sharia 'justice'), they also say they would never stand against it. Thus my comparison to the the silence by 'moderates' in Nazi Germany which resulted in genocide, war and the deaths of millions.
blackmore4 1 year ago
No-one hijacked your religion. The terrorists and "Islam-will-conquer" brigade are only 'interpreting' the 'holy' books. More extremely than the majority of Muslims perhaps but the silence from the majority over Sharia Law (stonings, hangings, beheadings for acts not even consider crimes in secular countries) mirrors exactly the silence of the 1930s German population concerning Nazi atrocities. Until this changes radically, why should we not view any Islamic symbol as a Swastika?
blackmore4 1 year ago
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xXBlackxRebelXx 2 years ago
Abrogation and Surah 9 are why moderate Muslims have so much trouble with Muslim terrorists.
The terrorists have stronger religious support for their actions: Allah commands them to fight unbelievers. This command abrogates earlier peaceful commands.
captmoroni 3 years ago
Doctrine of Abrogation (Surah 2:106): "Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?"
Meaning: When two verses in the Qur'an disagree, obey the latter.
Problem: Tradition says Surah 9 is the last, its verses abrogate earlier ones. 9:5, the "Verse of the Sword," commands Muslims to "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them."
So: Allah-mandated warfare abrogates peace w/ nonMuslims.
captmoroni 3 years ago
he's right, there is a constructive side and there is a destructive side to any religion, the destructive side needs to go but the constructive side should be allowed as that is more intellectually advanced. But there is a constructive direction from Geert also and other nationalists, europe does have an immigration problem which tends to be from islam origin, native cultures here in europe are a dying breed. we as you need to preserve our true identity, also this is dying thanks to corporations
IAmTheTrueEmperor 3 years ago
Salam , but I ahve to tell you something some people just don't wanna understand the Islam they dont change their minds even if th truth is rigth in front of thier nose
TheMasters3000 3 years ago
proud of you man, Ali
monashunny 3 years ago 2
V that was a reaction to begumchand
DorothyOverTheRainbo 3 years ago
He is right thanks Ali.
HisashiConnects 3 years ago 2
mashallah may allah reward you brother
curioustoknow123 3 years ago
You're right that the media doesn't represent Islam accurately - Islam currently preaches the execution of the following of our fellow citizens: apostates, married adulterers, homosexuals, atheists, and blasphemers.
You wouldn't know this watching the media. The media focuses on individual Muslims, not Islamic ideology. This is the reason for the continuing confusion around Islam - some Muslims agree with Islamic teachings of execution, and some Muslims don't. What doesn't change is Islam.
jontwest 3 years ago
execution of athiests...
yeah sure some are money grabbing swine but is that really justified just because they think a little differently?
you've got to give people some freedom of expression, you never know it could actually make things better to have new ideas following through civilization.
IAmTheTrueEmperor 3 years ago
no sorry i read that wrong, you said current islam... =\
IAmTheTrueEmperor 3 years ago
assalamu alaikumbrother, whatever you said true..may allah will give you more reward. insha allah we all our brothers and sisters will meet in heaven with plenty of happiness. looking forward more your videos.
seenijasimabanu 3 years ago
I agree totaly with you.
Some people are totaly nuts!Just 'cause someone who calls himself a Muslim does something bad,doesn't mean each and every one of them is like that!Treating people like that will only make the frustrated ones even more outraged and most important:it hurts the good,peace loving,friendly Muslims.
This world's going insane,haven't we learned a thing of the stuff that hapened around the 1940's?Sadly we're going the exact same way,but this time the victims aren't Jews...
DromenKoningin 3 years ago
What about the past history? 90 million Hindus are massacred by invading Islamic bigots. Wherever Islam has ruled the non-Muslims life was miserable to say the least. I hope and pray that this irreligion called Islam will one day rejected by all human beings.
begumchand 3 years ago
Look, it's a non-islamic bigot.
The whole thing is that not all Muslims do te same. Those people aren't good muslims at all, because there's no non-sect religion telling you to be a terrorist.
By the way, I'm raised a Christian and converted to Wicca, so I'm pretty objective.
DorothyOverTheRainbo 3 years ago
well said sister
xXBlackxRebelXx 2 years ago
nicely done and true enough! Allahu Akbar!
sandreniner 3 years ago
"Strike terror (into the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies." Surah 8:60
"Fight (kill) them (non Muslims) and Allah will punish (torment) them by your hands, cover them with shame." Surah 9:14
"I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah." Surah 8:12-1
What was that about Muslim terrorist being an oxymoron?
EikC 3 years ago 2
you really need to understand the context of this verse
[3:150] GOD alone is your Lord and Master, and He is the best supporter.
[3:151] We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, since they set up besides GOD powerless idols. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode for the transgressors!
the disbelievers are the idol worshippers in Mecca at the time of the prophet, not christians or jews (The People of The Book)
izakotaro 3 years ago
peaceful religion? we do not base our concerns on the idle rantings of one or two confused muslims. your spiritual leaders put contracts out on peoples lives. find me one catholic priest or christian minister who advocates killing people in the name of christiantity and i will continue to have a dialogue. until then, i will recognize you by the fruits of your fanatacism.
callieland 3 years ago
There are catholic priests who abuse little boys, only so little but they are there.. and what about Geert, he is judging islam based on the media, only to create a riot within our ministry.. The guy is all problems, but no solutions. I am from Holland and i have never seen a burka in my live.. My nearest islamic centre 20 km.. nearest church about 1 km. The guy is exadurating.
krikke1988 3 years ago
dude, it's still one-sided. your thoughts started objective then went to the subjective. It's really not about Islam, Christianity, Budhism and all. It's about people who made these heaven sent knowledge into a religion. Jesus hated religion. Religion keeps popping up making a great divided. I go for no religion at all. I have a God and it's the same as your God, but it does not make me Christian or a Muslim. here's an oxymoron, christian-religion, Islamic-Religion. think about it.
ma2centsworth 3 years ago
True ! I agree :) nice done !
S41iM0 3 years ago
say walla
pindo777 3 years ago
Good video, I give you +1 kudo.
whazzaa 4 years ago
on the end you said muslims and terrorist are the oppoite of each other, so are the hijackers of the plains at 9/11 not muslims or wasn't that a terroist attack?
peterlaurentius 4 years ago
they were muslims
but that doesn't mean that they did those attacks because islam tells them too
If a christian guy rapes a girl..does that mean in the bible it says rape a girl?
use ur sense
MightyCR 3 years ago
this goes both way's. How many mebers of parliment do you see on arbic telivision, only geert wilders (the one with the movie and no brain).
We have serveral moslims in the parliment no arbic network ever interviews them. Most of the dutch population only supports this movie because some muslims SOME, threaten holland because of it. Yes some muslims use their religion to jugde a movie that doesn't exit yet, they are also Hijacked your religion.
peterlaurentius 4 years ago
Dentist. Try it.
chapaev36 4 years ago
moslims aren't aggressive? How did they react after the danish cartoons???
shotterke123 4 years ago
this guy is full of it.
what right does he have to say what is the 'true' version of islam?
Whatever this second hand car salesman says, he can't change the fact the koran says the following;
3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
anyone who casts terror into non-believers hearts is a true muslim.
bigcherry99 4 years ago
I don't know what he is trying to prove. This guy looks scary as hell.
SpaceHagenees 4 years ago
Excuse me, but dislike/hatred of Islam has nothing to do with racism; the last time I checked, Islam isn't a race, its a religion.
kaiwaig 4 years ago
Wilteredfire dude if you dont like get the fuck out of here ok,,moron
Ballouti 4 years ago
retard. I think the tooth fairy stole too many of your teeth. Did you get rejected from the folks over at hollywood so you make crappy wannabe films on youtube and try and act like a superstar?
WilteredFire 4 years ago
hey mate you might think that you are all funny and haha but you are not saying the true. if you actually watch the news and see the conflicts caused around the world there are always muslims involved in this. Maybe you can dumb somebody with this video but after I read Koran all I could see was that your religion is about to kill and destroy everything that is not Allah. You are only a growing mass of people with no brain cells so it is us who will win in the end.
tsumiageta 4 years ago
tsumiageta,
i think its time for you to watch some free channels like aljazeera. the media you are familiar with is agianst islam thats why they are brain washing you. theu never show good muslims. do you know who is behind 9/11?
where does the quran say kill and distroy?
alhabon 4 years ago
here is a quote from the koran:
3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve
This quote proves the koran inspires terrorism.
bigcherry99 4 years ago
@tsumiageta seriously, are you SO dumb to watch the media? i mean, come on. at the moment everyone's againt the muslims.. and indeed, i agree with alhabon. Where does the quran say kill and destroy? :S
drumgirl0504 1 year ago
marshallah
dawvantongeren 4 years ago
SalaamAlaikum, Thanks for the video, MASHALLAH, JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.
spiritlite 4 years ago