once again a ref desicion fucked up a game...too bad for arsenal. 11 against 11 arsenal would surely have the strength to win the game. even 10 against 11 they did it pretty well but they were so tired to fight in the end so thats why barca made the comeback..
The decision is actually correct. Though of course, a more correct decision would be to let the play go on. I believe the referee himself has said so after the game?
The problem is that the referees usually never give an advantage on a red card situation. Therefore it is easy to blow the whistle a bit too early here. Too bad though, he is usually a really good referee.
That was a definate foul. I think the referee was just a little too quick with the wistle. Advantage should have been played and the goal would have scored. The way the referee did it required him to show the red. It should have been a goal and a yellow card, though.
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i got to say the barza players were acting like straight bitches ! they had the goal but they wanted the red so they would have the numerical advantage cause they knew we would have fucked them up 11 vs 11
Such a crumby way to ruin a UCL final. It would have been so easy to just let the goal stand and give Lehmann a yellow. Then at least we'd have a game on our hands.
Arsenal and Barca are my two favorite teams. More than anything I just wanted to see them both at their best. It would have been a beautiful final.
@smurfyday you are such a close minded biased fool. Arsenal only picked up a goal through a free kick that was awarded for a pathetic dive by eboue. Its clear as day you cannot argue the fact that eboue cheated, aka arsenal cheated.
by the way, eto'o was even because at the time, only your feet were considered onside/offside. And eitherway if it looks too close to call advantage goes to the attacking team.
Goalies get beat all the time w/o trying to cheaply trip the attacker in a low-class move....the red card was fully appropriate. If you don't give it, you are condoning a goalie 'tripping a clear goal scoring attacker' out of desperation. As for the argument that the ref should be more lenient in such a big game...bullshit... Rather, he should hold these world-class players to a world-class standard, eh?!
ur argument makes no sense....it was a goal.... give it ...let the game continue give a yellow.. ovr.... coz as 2 score a goal..even thugh eto was tripped other barca playr scored..?? so giv the damn goal
yeah, lehmann totally deserved the red card for intentionally tripping the player. instead, he should have simply bypassed the laws of physics and instantaneously stop his motion after realising that he wasn't going to save the ball. and btw, the fact that u think refs should not be more lenient in big games suggests that u prefer to watch unintense, unpassionate games, or games where there are 15 players on the pitch with 2 defenders acting as goalies.
@SquarecutK are you jokings? whats less intense than losing your goal keeper 10 minutes into a final, the game has virtually ended before it had started.
what i was saying that if "spindrift2009" likes big games with ref's that r extra strict, then he is the sort of person that likes games where people are afraid to be physical and tackle (in other words, games that are unpassionate and unintense, due to the lack of physical involvement) or games where everyone is sent off (like lehman).
I love how all the Arsenal fans are complaining that the barca players surrounded the ref. take a look again fools, there were SIX arsenal players complaining to the ref before a single barca player stepped in. the arsenal players reaction will bring a card out more quickly than the opposing players asking for one
Lehmann shouldnt have got that red card, a couple of days after the ref admitted he made a mistake. Almunia did good in the final even thow he let in 2 goals but he was good
@iBuckFush you may not be from london, but believe it or not the ref admitted he DID make a mistake. you havent got a clue about football. you need to get out more and learn about football, and stop tryin to piss people off like you always do
@ilovefilms94 it matters not if I am from london or not you fool. The ref NEVER admitted he made a mistake, ever. You just want to think that, the only thing he said was he should have "taken more time to make a decision"
where does he admit he made a mistake? it was a clear red card you just cannot accept it.
your probably form a different country, and didnt get it in the newspapers, and btw, do you think i care about what card lehmann wouldve got? you sad person, fuck off and leave people alone
The ref never said he made a mistake, he said he wish he had taken more time to make a decision because he could have allowed advantage and the goal would stand but he blew immediatley because it was a blatant red card challange. Now even if he allowed play to go on, it was STILL a red card challenge.
the reason he wish he'd taken more time is to possibly award the advantage, nothing to do with the red card
Arsenal would obviously like to think the opposite of fifa's written rules
"Now even if he allowed play to go on, it was STILL a red card challenge. "
Incorrect. If he'd allowed play to go on and the goal was scored, Lehmann no longer denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. It was either a red card and a free kick or a yellow and a goal. Either way, Arsenal were done.
your argument makes no sense, according to you if there was a shot on goal and an outfield player tried to stop the ball with his hands but they managed to score on the rebound, he would only receive a yellow card because the ball still went in.
I can understand your argument if perhaps Eto'o was able to recover and still score but it took another team mate to come in and score
@iBuckFush It makes no sense because you don't understand the laws. That is indeed how it goes. The red card is for Denying an Obvious Goal-Scoring Opportunity (DOGSO). If it is not denied then it's a yellow. You obviously don't even know the basics of the game.
@smurfyday lmfao, your contradicting yourself first off, second - you have no idea who you are talking to. So keep on assuming shit, but considering ive advanced three levels while I was a referee im pretty sure I know what im talking about fuckface. Lehmann denied AN opening for eto'o period. laws are laws and there happens to be NONE for an advantage in this situation. point me to the direction of one if you feel assed enough to search forever, but its not there.
@smurfyday First of all, the foul was outside the box. Second the goalkeeper was the last man and the one to commit the foul. Lastly only a fucking moron would use a cartoon and a referee's opinion as a refernce to the laws of the game.
He went for the ball, Eto'o chipped it to Guily. How was Jens Lehmann to know that Samuel Eto'o was going to do that? He was the best goalkeeper in the Champions League that season, and the last man rule is bullshit. Jens Lehmann had to do something in that situation, otherwise Eto'o would of blasted the ball straight past him, Lehmann would then be classed as a rubbish goalkeeper by the bias English press!!! It was a good decision by Lehmann, a fucking terrible one by the ref!!!
it is true that if the barca players hadnt surrownded him this wouldent have been a red card, but also this is comming from an arsenal fan, he is the last man and he takes eto out and does not touch the ball thus resulting it has to be a red card :(
that is a fucking discrace. the ref should have shown some fucking sense and gave the goal. he didnt need to send lehmann off. he ruined the final what a dick
If the referee is giving a straight red card it'¨s for: "Taking away a golden change". It is not possible to both give advantage AND a red card. Either a free kick and a red card, or the goal and a yellow card for un-professional behavior. And the football-law say, that a goal is ALWAYS the most important. So the right call from the referee would have been, goal and yellow card.. I am a referee my self..
It was a stupid refereeing decision but those all seem to go barca's way nowadays in european football. The referee should only have sent off Lehmann if his foul stopped barca from scoring..it shouldve been a goal for barca , a yellow for lehmann and game on
im a barcelona fan and i have to said the referee was so wrong that was a goal and yellow card to lehmann u cant just give a red card to a keeper in a CL final thats just lame
@bushgayclown it should have been goal. Anyway if a foul is given, red card is the right choise. Lehmann was the last in defense and he fouled the guy outside of the box
@bushgayclown yes and even in the 17th minute.. if that wouldn't be a goal it would be really tough, it would be a penalty and a yellow card for lehmann *even it wasn't a clear penalty, the incident or commit was on the 16th line not in the 16th* but well still it would be just fair for a penalty and a yellow card!! That decision pissed all the final off!
@hekichezzzz When the Ref called the foul, he HAD to show a red card. That was a obvious goal scoring opportunity that the goalkeeper stopped. Therefore, red card. However, the ref should have let play continue on and there would have been a goal. Then, the keeper would have received a yellow.
okay, if this was any normal match then i would say red card but com'on champions league final just give him a yellow give them the ball and it would have problerly been the 2nd best ever CL final game- i mean barca was on FIRE in the 05/06 and so were we in the CL - damn you ref dam you
Hmm... i hate Arsenal... but i think Lehmann went for the ball, and missed. But i cud see why the ref would give the card, it does look like a blatant trip!
actually not to start any shit with you, i like Lehman alot, but he definately wrapped his fingers around Eto'o's ankle. It's tough to see, but right at the edge of the screen in the replay its definately a grab. But i would have prefered the goal and the yellow, it would have been a better game to watch.
Did you record this with a camera ?
hellkitchenification 7 months ago
@hellkitchenification Take a wide guess motherfucker
LajThaGoat 6 months ago
Omg i just realise barcelona still run to the ref back in the 1990s this video prove it FACT. My god Puyol look soYOUNG!
VanTranTung 7 months ago
Wrong decision. He didn't deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity because they scored. Just a yellow.
mattastar 9 months ago
Its a clearly red card, even its pretty lame. He graps his foot forcing Eto'o to score a goal. I would do the same, not a accident, just on purpose.
LM10CR9Videos 9 months ago
0.28 clear offside
Kawiatube 10 months ago
once again a ref desicion fucked up a game...too bad for arsenal. 11 against 11 arsenal would surely have the strength to win the game. even 10 against 11 they did it pretty well but they were so tired to fight in the end so thats why barca made the comeback..
GianniTheAcrobat 10 months ago
The decision is actually correct. Though of course, a more correct decision would be to let the play go on. I believe the referee himself has said so after the game?
The problem is that the referees usually never give an advantage on a red card situation. Therefore it is easy to blow the whistle a bit too early here. Too bad though, he is usually a really good referee.
AnotherSundayMorning 10 months ago
That was a definate foul. I think the referee was just a little too quick with the wistle. Advantage should have been played and the goal would have scored. The way the referee did it required him to show the red. It should have been a goal and a yellow card, though.
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besly988 11 months ago
I dont know how u can complain againts that?
MARZMUFC 11 months ago
Its amazing that Pires doesn't get pissed about it, what an amazing player and definately and amazing person.
matt4utd 11 months ago
i got to say the barza players were acting like straight bitches ! they had the goal but they wanted the red so they would have the numerical advantage cause they knew we would have fucked them up 11 vs 11
FlakoFino23 1 year ago
Such a crumby way to ruin a UCL final. It would have been so easy to just let the goal stand and give Lehmann a yellow. Then at least we'd have a game on our hands.
Arsenal and Barca are my two favorite teams. More than anything I just wanted to see them both at their best. It would have been a beautiful final.
Sinnical 1 year ago
Edmilson you cunt, a player doing that card action makes me so angry
u20gilpinj 1 year ago
lol atleast we can live with our means, Barca are a disgrace, they borrow to pay their wages.
omar82fl 1 year ago
if i was lehmann i would fucking punch that ref in da face.
knolek 1 year ago
Even worse for Gunners fans, the Barca equalizer was offside.
smurfyday 1 year ago
@smurfyday you are such a close minded biased fool. Arsenal only picked up a goal through a free kick that was awarded for a pathetic dive by eboue. Its clear as day you cannot argue the fact that eboue cheated, aka arsenal cheated.
by the way, eto'o was even because at the time, only your feet were considered onside/offside. And eitherway if it looks too close to call advantage goes to the attacking team.
iBuckFush 1 year ago
that was bullshit barcelona probably bought the ref for that game
i watch that match all the time and wish we won it but i guess we have to move on
KingZidane92 1 year ago
afterwars the referee just said he was pressured into giving a red card
mel0veg0d 1 year ago
Terrible call by the ref!
Rules are clear here! Goal counts,yellow card to the goalkeeper and game continues!
4400seriesFAN 1 year ago 3
Goal allow. Advantage given to barca. Yellow car to Lehmann. And Continue the game. This is how i will referee if i am the referee
MrAuntie 1 year ago 3
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Lehmann sucks!
24burnt 1 year ago
Goalies get beat all the time w/o trying to cheaply trip the attacker in a low-class move....the red card was fully appropriate. If you don't give it, you are condoning a goalie 'tripping a clear goal scoring attacker' out of desperation. As for the argument that the ref should be more lenient in such a big game...bullshit... Rather, he should hold these world-class players to a world-class standard, eh?!
spindrift2009 1 year ago
@spindrift2009
ur argument makes no sense....it was a goal.... give it ...let the game continue give a yellow.. ovr.... coz as 2 score a goal..even thugh eto was tripped other barca playr scored..?? so giv the damn goal
stanphoenix 1 year ago
@spindrift2009
yeah, lehmann totally deserved the red card for intentionally tripping the player. instead, he should have simply bypassed the laws of physics and instantaneously stop his motion after realising that he wasn't going to save the ball. and btw, the fact that u think refs should not be more lenient in big games suggests that u prefer to watch unintense, unpassionate games, or games where there are 15 players on the pitch with 2 defenders acting as goalies.
SquarecutK 1 year ago
@SquarecutK are you jokings? whats less intense than losing your goal keeper 10 minutes into a final, the game has virtually ended before it had started.
rougexyz 1 year ago
@rougexyz
soz, i think u misinterpreted my words.
what i was saying that if "spindrift2009" likes big games with ref's that r extra strict, then he is the sort of person that likes games where people are afraid to be physical and tackle (in other words, games that are unpassionate and unintense, due to the lack of physical involvement) or games where everyone is sent off (like lehman).
i'm defending arsenal, btw!
i'm a gunners fan lol.
SquarecutK 1 year ago
lehman ,,, You did what anyone else did .. You shall never regret it :)
MrBeAsToFeAsT 1 year ago 2
I wouldn't have substituted Pires
MrCricket101 1 year ago
I love how all the Arsenal fans are complaining that the barca players surrounded the ref. take a look again fools, there were SIX arsenal players complaining to the ref before a single barca player stepped in. the arsenal players reaction will bring a card out more quickly than the opposing players asking for one
iBuckFush 1 year ago
lol lehmann in arsenal ?
Ginic 2 years ago
@Ginic yup he was on loan
h5liu 2 years ago
Why does the referee show the Red Card After Talking with Puyol, Whatta Faggot
CASELYandMJ 2 years ago
thats how barca rolls.
coscientology 2 years ago
Lehmann shouldnt have got that red card, a couple of days after the ref admitted he made a mistake. Almunia did good in the final even thow he let in 2 goals but he was good
ilovefilms94 2 years ago
@ilovefilms94 no he did not, dont try to bs people because your an arsenal fan. clear red card
iBuckFush 1 year ago
@iBuckFush you may not be from london, but believe it or not the ref admitted he DID make a mistake. you havent got a clue about football. you need to get out more and learn about football, and stop tryin to piss people off like you always do
ilovefilms94 1 year ago
@ilovefilms94 it matters not if I am from london or not you fool. The ref NEVER admitted he made a mistake, ever. You just want to think that, the only thing he said was he should have "taken more time to make a decision"
where does he admit he made a mistake? it was a clear red card you just cannot accept it.
iBuckFush 1 year ago
your probably form a different country, and didnt get it in the newspapers, and btw, do you think i care about what card lehmann wouldve got? you sad person, fuck off and leave people alone
ilovefilms94 1 year ago
The ref never said he made a mistake, he said he wish he had taken more time to make a decision because he could have allowed advantage and the goal would stand but he blew immediatley because it was a blatant red card challange. Now even if he allowed play to go on, it was STILL a red card challenge.
the reason he wish he'd taken more time is to possibly award the advantage, nothing to do with the red card
Arsenal would obviously like to think the opposite of fifa's written rules
iBuckFush 1 year ago
"Now even if he allowed play to go on, it was STILL a red card challenge. "
Incorrect. If he'd allowed play to go on and the goal was scored, Lehmann no longer denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. It was either a red card and a free kick or a yellow and a goal. Either way, Arsenal were done.
ereHsIhturTehT 1 year ago
maybe you should learn the rules before you try correcting me.
iBuckFush 1 year ago
@iBuckFush
Or, I could just let the FIFA Laws of the Game support my argument. It suresaves trying to remember stuff and getting it wrong, don't you think?
ereHsIhturTehT 1 year ago 2
@ereHsIhturTehT
your argument makes no sense, according to you if there was a shot on goal and an outfield player tried to stop the ball with his hands but they managed to score on the rebound, he would only receive a yellow card because the ball still went in.
I can understand your argument if perhaps Eto'o was able to recover and still score but it took another team mate to come in and score
iBuckFush 1 year ago
@iBuckFush It makes no sense because you don't understand the laws. That is indeed how it goes. The red card is for Denying an Obvious Goal-Scoring Opportunity (DOGSO). If it is not denied then it's a yellow. You obviously don't even know the basics of the game.
smurfyday 1 year ago
@smurfyday lmfao, your contradicting yourself first off, second - you have no idea who you are talking to. So keep on assuming shit, but considering ive advanced three levels while I was a referee im pretty sure I know what im talking about fuckface. Lehmann denied AN opening for eto'o period. laws are laws and there happens to be NONE for an advantage in this situation. point me to the direction of one if you feel assed enough to search forever, but its not there.
iBuckFush 1 year ago
@iBuckFush Hear it from an EPL ref. Google "Guardian You Are Ref Sep 24". First scenario is exactly like it.
Please don't be so obstinate when you don't know what you're talking about.
smurfyday 1 year ago
@smurfyday First of all, the foul was outside the box. Second the goalkeeper was the last man and the one to commit the foul. Lastly only a fucking moron would use a cartoon and a referee's opinion as a refernce to the laws of the game.
iBuckFush 1 year ago
@ilovefilms94 yeah u right lehmann should've been congratulated for his foul on etoo and red card to etoo!!
bushgayclown 1 year ago
if lehmann stayed on, arsenal would have won
badturkali 2 years ago
Henry, Ljungberg&co those were the times...
priMMoz 2 years ago
He went for the ball, Eto'o chipped it to Guily. How was Jens Lehmann to know that Samuel Eto'o was going to do that? He was the best goalkeeper in the Champions League that season, and the last man rule is bullshit. Jens Lehmann had to do something in that situation, otherwise Eto'o would of blasted the ball straight past him, Lehmann would then be classed as a rubbish goalkeeper by the bias English press!!! It was a good decision by Lehmann, a fucking terrible one by the ref!!!
ArsenalTomas 2 years ago
I remeber this. I was so mad at the ref. Lehmann was one of the funniest goalkeepers we had.
MroLamby 2 years ago
ahah you're funny, you're justifying someone breaking the rules of the game because 'he had to do something'
Jenkinss 2 years ago
@ArsenalTomas arsenal fans are naive and idiotic
iBuckFush 1 year ago
case clear: red card! Hard as it is!
zYreC007 2 years ago
it is true that if the barca players hadnt surrownded him this wouldent have been a red card, but also this is comming from an arsenal fan, he is the last man and he takes eto out and does not touch the ball thus resulting it has to be a red card :(
cornettoman6 2 years ago
the rules need to be changed. they should allow advantage AND a red card if its a definite possibility to score
Samax13 2 years ago
that is a fucking discrace. the ref should have shown some fucking sense and gave the goal. he didnt need to send lehmann off. he ruined the final what a dick
GianTheMan91 2 years ago
lehmann hadn't any other possibility ... gettin a goal or risking a red card ...
italia126 2 years ago
saddest moment ever in gunners history. the ref is so stupid. you could tell he wasnt going 2 send lehman off till barca players surrounded him.
Chirag14 2 years ago
stupis is Lehmann when fouled an attacker. Red card is OK
DefaultHA 2 years ago
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only delighted to see an arsenal player getting what he deserves
but knowing arsenal they probably moaned until the suspension was over rulled
eireisthebest 2 years ago
#Unusak
If the referee is giving a straight red card it'¨s for: "Taking away a golden change". It is not possible to both give advantage AND a red card. Either a free kick and a red card, or the goal and a yellow card for un-professional behavior. And the football-law say, that a goal is ALWAYS the most important. So the right call from the referee would have been, goal and yellow card.. I am a referee my self..
MikeThomassen 2 years ago
Red Card okay.
Goal okay!
Both together ? Is it allowed to give the advantage and then a red card ?
Unusak 2 years ago
Okay sry ^^ I didn´t watch the whole video.
Unusak 2 years ago
no it isnt
KingMaierle 2 years ago
No red card for me? Why? I think the rule with last man is bullshit. really big time bullshit
marloweAUT 2 years ago
Backup goalie = Easiest position to play on a soccer team.
Unless this happens.
jbullaoit 2 years ago
give him the red....then advantage...its right..
darylim94 2 years ago
It was a stupid refereeing decision but those all seem to go barca's way nowadays in european football. The referee should only have sent off Lehmann if his foul stopped barca from scoring..it shouldve been a goal for barca , a yellow for lehmann and game on
jafalife14 2 years ago 4
it is a stupid rule!
marloweAUT 2 years ago
i feel so sorry for pires.. wenger shouldnt have subbed him out
kkevinn6 2 years ago
im a barcelona fan and i have to said the referee was so wrong that was a goal and yellow card to lehmann u cant just give a red card to a keeper in a CL final thats just lame
bushgayclown 2 years ago 33
@bushgayclown it should have been goal. Anyway if a foul is given, red card is the right choise. Lehmann was the last in defense and he fouled the guy outside of the box
razorrulzz 1 year ago
@bushgayclown how stupid. just because it is a ucl final the right punishment shouldnt be given?
catalan0111 11 months ago
@bushgayclown yes and even in the 17th minute.. if that wouldn't be a goal it would be really tough, it would be a penalty and a yellow card for lehmann *even it wasn't a clear penalty, the incident or commit was on the 16th line not in the 16th* but well still it would be just fair for a penalty and a yellow card!! That decision pissed all the final off!
hekichezzzz 10 months ago
@hekichezzzz When the Ref called the foul, he HAD to show a red card. That was a obvious goal scoring opportunity that the goalkeeper stopped. Therefore, red card. However, the ref should have let play continue on and there would have been a goal. Then, the keeper would have received a yellow.
itsinthenet 10 months ago
wtf? shouldve just given advantage
Harrehz 2 years ago 4
Yeh right, would've been enough since it was a goal.
Cybraxas 2 years ago
okay, if this was any normal match then i would say red card but com'on champions league final just give him a yellow give them the ball and it would have problerly been the 2nd best ever CL final game- i mean barca was on FIRE in the 05/06 and so were we in the CL - damn you ref dam you
-arsenal fan
JBC02 2 years ago
You cant give him just a yellow. If the last defender commits a foul, its a RED card.
Ref should have played advantage, Barca scores, 11v11
o5iiawah 2 years ago 4
whats the best CL final in ur oppinion???
i guess bayern-valencia in 2001^^
mrwulong 2 years ago 2
If lehmann didnt get sent off....pires wouldnt have left two days later
thenxtslash 2 years ago 2
referee did WRONG, he should have let the game continue and give giuly goal, 11 vs 11 1-0, interesting match. 10 vs 11 0-0 shit match
kaikovich 2 years ago 3
yea your right i tell all of my friends that the ref. should have played on letting giuly score
ramal90421 2 years ago
i feel so bad on robbie pires
M1Healy 2 years ago 3
Lehmann was the last man and took down Eto'o with a goal scoring chance, RED CARD
fsvaio 3 years ago 3
feel sorry that pires' last game ended like that
lw05yyh 2 years ago 28
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its not a red card maybe yellow anyway barca could never beat the gunners with 11 in thier squad
azooozq8 3 years ago
They Should Have allowed the goal + the Red Card
Nextraker 3 years ago
Hmm... i hate Arsenal... but i think Lehmann went for the ball, and missed. But i cud see why the ref would give the card, it does look like a blatant trip!
EthanCruise 3 years ago
the goal was to be allowed...
great sportmanship by Lehmann, when he went to encourage Almunia...
jumpy27 3 years ago 3
LOL TERJE HAUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Montema70 3 years ago
that's a goal and a yellow. no need to ruin the game with a red for a keeper coming out hard and missing
iquitsoccer 3 years ago
actually not to start any shit with you, i like Lehman alot, but he definately wrapped his fingers around Eto'o's ankle. It's tough to see, but right at the edge of the screen in the replay its definately a grab. But i would have prefered the goal and the yellow, it would have been a better game to watch.
camhirtle 3 years ago
we love you any way jens
arsenal395 3 years ago 2
yeah i still prefer him over that guy in goal now who had to wait until he was 30 to play
shahidafridi6 3 years ago
if lehmann woodint be sent of Arsenal wood win the game
strakar12 3 years ago 3
easily
7ChuckyU 3 years ago
thats a bit of a stretch...
camhirtle 3 years ago
it shouldve been a yellow +guily's goal or the red + foul he was lst man and a clear contact with the goaly is a red
killa0147 3 years ago
He tried to jump over Lehman, who grabbed his ankle. It is clearly vivid in the replay. No fault on Eto'o's part.
camhirtle 3 years ago
ata israeli yafe
orie50 3 years ago
Yellow card should have been given with the goal cost arsenal the match
DannyMarquiss 3 years ago
not sure it should have been a penalty as well...
foul was very very close to the penalty box line....not sure which side though
thegreatNEb 3 years ago