NICK POPE IS A MISINFORMER. HE SAYS THAT 911 WAS NOT AN INSIDE JOB AND HE DEFENDS THE OFFICAL 911 STORY WHICH IS NOT TRUE. OF LARRY SILVERSTEINS COMMENT 'PULL IT' HE SAYS THAT MEANT SILVERSTEIN WAS MEANING THAT THE FIREMEN SHOULD BE EVACUATED FROM BUIDLING 7. HOWEVER THE COMMENT 'PULL IT' MEANT "DEMOLISH" IT TAKES WEEKS TO DEMOLISH A BUIDLING YET THEY DEMOLISHED BUILDING 7 SHORTLY AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE WTC. GEORGE W. BUSH HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND NICK POPE DENIES THAT.
Nick Pope is an ex con man employed by the British government to misinform and lie to ufologists after gaining there trust.
He used to con women out of there money prior to his new career.
Nick gets a real rush out of decieving Humanity and it makes him feel superior to everyone.
At the momment Nick is being used to try and further push the false flag alien invasion scenario after last years attempts failed due to whistle blowers on the projects globally standing up and shutting them down.
The title implied that the UN had a meeting... Then aledged meeting.... then there was a rumour... then an informal chat about things unspecifed in 1979. The internet is like MacDonalds. lol
gentlemen, If I may. I have studied this subject objectively for several years. In a nut shell it all comes down to the level of proof one is willing to except. I understand what makes science..having predictable outcomes that can be repeated. That said, I would caution and laugh at one that believe modern science is the be all and end all. Scientists still can't fully explain evolution or prior big bang.
Nick Pope is a cautious man who does not go swallowing UFO stories because he wants to believe in them. Steven Greer spins exotic tales which are music to the ears of people who want to believe in these phenomena. Nick Pope impresses me because, after 3 years spent objectively researching 10,000 cases, he has changed from a skeptic to someone who thinks alien spacecraft may be visiting the earth.
CCLJunky, a skeptics is not a denier. A skeptics is open minded, but do not swallow every claim. And he can live with the unknown.
As long as people want rather to believe than to know, nobody ever will come to the idea to pull down pants of UFOs by investigating the phenomena with appropriate scientific means, we already have - and are affordable. E.g. cheapest tool is an ordinary CD that can create a spectrogram of a UFOs plasma. You'd be amazed if you knew, what data ar in that.
"A skeptics is open minded, but do not swallow every claim. And he can live with the unknown."
yes. that's a good description of ME. not YOU. YOU are an IDIOT :-))
you refuse to accept that aliens are here, simple because you can't "touch" one YOURSELF and on top of that, you disrespect everyone who claims they have.
you hide behind your pseudo science babble to come off smart, but in fact your just a little naive boy (or girl), who's afraid of little green men from mars :-))
CCLJunky, what if I told you, I thoroughly investigated a craft ridden by a guy, whose home planet is located 39,4 ly from our solar system? Although I have detailed knowledge about near all subsystems of the craft, like underlying physics, parameters, etc., I have no proof. I could have invented a low neutronicity hyperspace pulsed plasma fusion reator in my kitchen - or simply copied it from Sandia's papers. So if you want to convince people, you have to find proofs.
well. if YOU told me that, i would say that you are a liar, because you hold NO credibility whatsoever. none. not a single shred.
however if a couple of world famous astronauts tell me that, or a former defense minister, or some other guy with VERY EASY verifyable credentials, then it's another story.
just because YOU haven't been able to get your hands on tangible proof, doesn't mean NOBODY has. but since that's your argument to dismiss this as a hoax, that's why you are an idiot :-))
CCLJunky, sorry to tell you, but your own words reveal, that you haven't grabbed, for what a scientific proof is: It's bound to facts - and not to personal credibility (and belief). If you asked me I'd provide hard proofs. If Sandia National Lab or ESA were credible enough for you. Today, you even trust to the former Canadian defense minister, who got his knowledge from liar Corso. ( /watch?v=zFuNrPeq0tQ ).
lol. once again you give us "tangible proof" of you being an idiot.
to me corso's claims still hold more credibility than stanton's claims, so your analogy is ludricous.
i told you once, and i will say it again: you're a fake. you KNOW that you won't get to see the tangible proof you want and you use that knowledge to discredit the subject.
now please, stop yapping about tangible proof. you're boring me.
Well, I think we have to accept the fact, that the word 'truth' in UFOlogy obeys laws of relativity, because many people are simply not evolved enough to recognize, that truth is absolute.
"...to me corso's claims still hold more credibility than stanton's claims,..."
I have to admit, Corso's lies sound much more fantastic than Friedman's do, but still nothing to do reality. So it's better, when I leave you alone in your medieval dream world of beliefs. That's your life.
wrong again my young idiotic friend. truth is in the eye of the beholder, meaning it's SUBJECTIVE as hell.
but you are right. maybe it is better to leave me alone in my "medieval dream world of beliefs". but you know what, you're living in that "dream world" as well. it's just that you are convinced that i'm the one who's asleep, while in reality it's the otherway around ;)
freshness2001, Greer started as a naive, easy believing guy, jumping on quick conclusions. Later, he became aware of the fact, people are more interested in fantastic stories, than the truth - and even pay for that. So he started his second career as a conspiracy publisher (among others). Since then, he absolutly don't care about truth. He sells every testimony, for that people pay money.
calling Greer a "naive, easy believing guy, jumping on quick conclusions" is ridiculous.
you have NO CLUE about what you're saying.
but that's OK. it hasn't stopped you in the past and i'm sure it won't stop you in the future ;)
it doesn't matter what kind of crap you post about him. people who have listened to him and who have seen the people behind Greer, know that he's for real.
I believe Greer has done far more good then harm. But at the same time some (Not all) of his claims are very unscientific. Even sounding very whimsical. Sacha is right, no one can deny UFOS exist. If someone does their being childish ignoring the data/truth. We do need strong scientific proof to bring in the mainstream. Not unknown sources and wild ideas with no substance. Those are the type of things debunkers are continuously repeating against good evidence. Clouding the truth
CCLJunky, LOL, still on hard claims without any proofs?
Once again: Most (not all!) of Greer's very credible sources are opportunistic hoaxers, liars and snake-oil sellers - as about 99% of all UFOlogists are. They make money, BECAUSE they know, how manipulative reporting works.
Before you bark up the wrong tree again, I'd check the real background of most of the 'high ranking officials'. E.g every AFB answers phone calls. Ever remarked, the unknowns tell the most fantastic stories?
CCLJunky, although it must be painful for you to discuss with somebody that faces you with straight, rock solid facts, but I think, I've surely the right the give a statement, whenever you cite my screenname and call me '...definitivly a wannabe debunker...' - of course without proof; what were not worth to mention. It were simply the same, if called you a shill woho deliberatly misleads people with the intention to desabilize our society. Since you are simply an insane, I omit that.
CCLJunky, I hate to tell again, but ignorant is somebody, that denies facts - not not somebody, who carefully analyzes what a claimant tell and dismiss the claims, when he sees there are nothing than lies. You rely on dreams and beliefs. I rely on knowledge and proofs. No matters, if one 1000+ liars tell me the ever same story. It's not a coincidence, Nick Pope shares the very same opionion. Beside Hynek, and Poher, the guy belongs to the most experienced serious UFOlogist in the world.
buddy007, clamour! Original intention of Greer in the cold war era was to declassify UFO files. This was indeed honorable. Cold war has gone and near all western countries published their UFO files under FOIA or whatever. However, Greer is a MD - and not a PD. So he bought into fantastic stories of opportunistic snake-oil sellers, and, harmed much more, than he did good. Since I'm a graduated el. engineer, I can judge the hairraising nonsense, eg. a Fouche or Denyo babble - and Greer parrot. ...
... (ff) I agree completly, that if serious, scientific investigation were done, the enigma could solved withing months. The big problem is, people are far not ready for truth. They want rather to believe
than to know. To prevent dire socal, economic and political disruptions, govts still hold back some cases. I guess, it will us take a couple of centuries until we'll have become ready. Wait up the first terran will be curious enough to use a CD to take a spectrocgram from a UFO.
yes. after almost a year of preaching to people that they should think more for themselfes, i finally start to do so myself after reading YOUR enlightened comments.
The problem with Greer goes even deeper. First, he is a MD - and not a PD. Hence he can't judge, if somebody babbles pseudoscientific things (e.g. like Fouche, Lazar, etc. do) He buy into this babble and jump on quick conclusions. Then he finance himself by selling books, DVDs and, testimonies. Everbody, who claims being a highranking official, can deposit a testimony about fantastic claims. Days later, you can
CCLJunky, well I see. You've started once more a rapid fire machine gun posting. However truth does neither comes from gun barrels, nor from belief, but from thoroughly done investigations. Fortunatly, Greer's fantastic-story-telling whistleblowers are not clever enough to be quiet when asked about physical details. So you can debunk them. Not always easily, but you can. E.g. have you ever asked, if a 'superconducting mercury plasma at 250kbar' [Fouche] is physically possible?
CCLJunky, tell me the museum, where a I can watch a downed alien saucer, or where can I find the paper that shows, that Dr. Leir's alleged alien implants are doubtless ET transmitters? Yes we have TONS of claims and hypotheses - but not one single tangible proof. Once again: Nobody denies today existence of UFOs, but even for unexplainables more than one possible explanation exist. Hence, we neeed solid, verifyable proofs - and not beliefs.
see video nick pope exposed , he is a useless lying cunt .
philhughes0503 1 month ago
NICK POPE IS A MISINFORMER. HE SAYS THAT 911 WAS NOT AN INSIDE JOB AND HE DEFENDS THE OFFICAL 911 STORY WHICH IS NOT TRUE. OF LARRY SILVERSTEINS COMMENT 'PULL IT' HE SAYS THAT MEANT SILVERSTEIN WAS MEANING THAT THE FIREMEN SHOULD BE EVACUATED FROM BUIDLING 7. HOWEVER THE COMMENT 'PULL IT' MEANT "DEMOLISH" IT TAKES WEEKS TO DEMOLISH A BUIDLING YET THEY DEMOLISHED BUILDING 7 SHORTLY AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE WTC. GEORGE W. BUSH HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND NICK POPE DENIES THAT.
JillAngie3 11 months ago
Nick Pope is an ex con man employed by the British government to misinform and lie to ufologists after gaining there trust.
He used to con women out of there money prior to his new career.
Nick gets a real rush out of decieving Humanity and it makes him feel superior to everyone.
At the momment Nick is being used to try and further push the false flag alien invasion scenario after last years attempts failed due to whistle blowers on the projects globally standing up and shutting them down.
fatalcleric 11 months ago
The title implied that the UN had a meeting... Then aledged meeting.... then there was a rumour... then an informal chat about things unspecifed in 1979. The internet is like MacDonalds. lol
amemy1 1 year ago
gentlemen, If I may. I have studied this subject objectively for several years. In a nut shell it all comes down to the level of proof one is willing to except. I understand what makes science..having predictable outcomes that can be repeated. That said, I would caution and laugh at one that believe modern science is the be all and end all. Scientists still can't fully explain evolution or prior big bang.
secretlife007 3 years ago
Nick Pope is a cautious man who does not go swallowing UFO stories because he wants to believe in them. Steven Greer spins exotic tales which are music to the ears of people who want to believe in these phenomena. Nick Pope impresses me because, after 3 years spent objectively researching 10,000 cases, he has changed from a skeptic to someone who thinks alien spacecraft may be visiting the earth.
ilkinond 3 years ago
he impresses you because it took him THREE YEARS to lose his skepticism???!
that's not being "cautious" that's being afraid.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, a skeptics is not a denier. A skeptics is open minded, but do not swallow every claim. And he can live with the unknown.
As long as people want rather to believe than to know, nobody ever will come to the idea to pull down pants of UFOs by investigating the phenomena with appropriate scientific means, we already have - and are affordable. E.g. cheapest tool is an ordinary CD that can create a spectrogram of a UFOs plasma. You'd be amazed if you knew, what data ar in that.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
"A skeptics is open minded, but do not swallow every claim. And he can live with the unknown."
yes. that's a good description of ME. not YOU. YOU are an IDIOT :-))
you refuse to accept that aliens are here, simple because you can't "touch" one YOURSELF and on top of that, you disrespect everyone who claims they have.
you hide behind your pseudo science babble to come off smart, but in fact your just a little naive boy (or girl), who's afraid of little green men from mars :-))
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, what if I told you, I thoroughly investigated a craft ridden by a guy, whose home planet is located 39,4 ly from our solar system? Although I have detailed knowledge about near all subsystems of the craft, like underlying physics, parameters, etc., I have no proof. I could have invented a low neutronicity hyperspace pulsed plasma fusion reator in my kitchen - or simply copied it from Sandia's papers. So if you want to convince people, you have to find proofs.
Tangible proofs.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
well. if YOU told me that, i would say that you are a liar, because you hold NO credibility whatsoever. none. not a single shred.
however if a couple of world famous astronauts tell me that, or a former defense minister, or some other guy with VERY EASY verifyable credentials, then it's another story.
just because YOU haven't been able to get your hands on tangible proof, doesn't mean NOBODY has. but since that's your argument to dismiss this as a hoax, that's why you are an idiot :-))
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, sorry to tell you, but your own words reveal, that you haven't grabbed, for what a scientific proof is: It's bound to facts - and not to personal credibility (and belief). If you asked me I'd provide hard proofs. If Sandia National Lab or ESA were credible enough for you. Today, you even trust to the former Canadian defense minister, who got his knowledge from liar Corso. ( /watch?v=zFuNrPeq0tQ ).
Who is the idiot now?
sacha4you 3 years ago
well, to me YOU are obviously still the idiot.
stanton friedman is a well kown ufologist, who happens to disagree with corso's story. so how come you "believe" his story?
lol, you're an idiot just for bringing him up! :-))
CCLJunky 3 years ago
Nothing to do with belief. Just to show you
you, how fast your adored highly crededible,
supa hi ranking becomes fallen angels. However, Friedman himself if not better. He bought into the bogus MJ12 document set.
That's your world of testimony and apparent credibility. What's about hard tangible proofs now?
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
wtf? my "adored highly crededible,
supa hi ranking becomes fallen angels"???
lol. once again you give us "tangible proof" of you being an idiot.
to me corso's claims still hold more credibility than stanton's claims, so your analogy is ludricous.
i told you once, and i will say it again: you're a fake. you KNOW that you won't get to see the tangible proof you want and you use that knowledge to discredit the subject.
now please, stop yapping about tangible proof. you're boring me.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
Well, I think we have to accept the fact, that the word 'truth' in UFOlogy obeys laws of relativity, because many people are simply not evolved enough to recognize, that truth is absolute.
"...to me corso's claims still hold more credibility than stanton's claims,..."
I have to admit, Corso's lies sound much more fantastic than Friedman's do, but still nothing to do reality. So it's better, when I leave you alone in your medieval dream world of beliefs. That's your life.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
truth is absolute? lol
wrong again my young idiotic friend. truth is in the eye of the beholder, meaning it's SUBJECTIVE as hell.
but you are right. maybe it is better to leave me alone in my "medieval dream world of beliefs". but you know what, you're living in that "dream world" as well. it's just that you are convinced that i'm the one who's asleep, while in reality it's the otherway around ;)
see you on the flipside of 2012.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, well due to your strong mental confusion, I accept, that e.g. one gallon for you may be one and a have for normal people.
Since it can be your personal truth.
However, I've to diappoint you another time, since the 2012 whatever-you-want-event will be postponed - as usual.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
I believe Steven Greer ANY DAY over Nick Pope.
ANY DAY!
fresshness2001 3 years ago
same here
CCLJunky 3 years ago
nick pope is so awesome i wish there were more people in america like him !!!
lakeoftea 3 years ago
You have, he's Steven Greer and he's more credible than this guy.
fresshness2001 3 years ago
freshness2001, Greer started as a naive, easy believing guy, jumping on quick conclusions. Later, he became aware of the fact, people are more interested in fantastic stories, than the truth - and even pay for that. So he started his second career as a conspiracy publisher (among others). Since then, he absolutly don't care about truth. He sells every testimony, for that people pay money.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
lol, sacha. you're so full of shit man.
calling Greer a "naive, easy believing guy, jumping on quick conclusions" is ridiculous.
you have NO CLUE about what you're saying.
but that's OK. it hasn't stopped you in the past and i'm sure it won't stop you in the future ;)
it doesn't matter what kind of crap you post about him. people who have listened to him and who have seen the people behind Greer, know that he's for real.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
he's backed by astronauts, politicians, high ranking military people, top bussiness people, FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD!!
besides, so what if he earns money by sellings books?
the guy quit his job as an E.R. surgeon and devoted the rest of his life to get full disclosure and to get rid of the oil addiction this planet is on.
he's for real. nothing you can say will ever change my mind :)
CCLJunky 3 years ago
I believe Greer has done far more good then harm. But at the same time some (Not all) of his claims are very unscientific. Even sounding very whimsical. Sacha is right, no one can deny UFOS exist. If someone does their being childish ignoring the data/truth. We do need strong scientific proof to bring in the mainstream. Not unknown sources and wild ideas with no substance. Those are the type of things debunkers are continuously repeating against good evidence. Clouding the truth
buddry007 3 years ago
"unknown sources and wild ideas with no substance"
how does that relate to Greer? to my knowledge he has very credible sources and INSANE ideas with TONS of substance.
btw, i don't think you understands Sacha's point of view, cus he's definitely a wannabe debunker.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, LOL, still on hard claims without any proofs?
Once again: Most (not all!) of Greer's very credible sources are opportunistic hoaxers, liars and snake-oil sellers - as about 99% of all UFOlogists are. They make money, BECAUSE they know, how manipulative reporting works.
Before you bark up the wrong tree again, I'd check the real background of most of the 'high ranking officials'. E.g every AFB answers phone calls. Ever remarked, the unknowns tell the most fantastic stories?
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
please stop commenting to me sacha
we had our discussions and we both think the other one's the idiot.
no need to go through this again. :)
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, although it must be painful for you to discuss with somebody that faces you with straight, rock solid facts, but I think, I've surely the right the give a statement, whenever you cite my screenname and call me '...definitivly a wannabe debunker...' - of course without proof; what were not worth to mention. It were simply the same, if called you a shill woho deliberatly misleads people with the intention to desabilize our society. Since you are simply an insane, I omit that.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
well, to be honest, it's painfull for me to even TALK, let alone discuss, with someone as IGNORANT like a rock as you are.
all you do is keep yapping about how there's no scientific proof and how all ufologists are dreamers and believers and yada-yada-yada. lol. pathetic.
you even think you're so much smarter than the rest, just because you're "a graduated el. engineer". lol. hilarious.
yep. it's your attitude what's painfull to cope with. NOT the crap you write.
have a nice day! ;)
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, I hate to tell again, but ignorant is somebody, that denies facts - not not somebody, who carefully analyzes what a claimant tell and dismiss the claims, when he sees there are nothing than lies. You rely on dreams and beliefs. I rely on knowledge and proofs. No matters, if one 1000+ liars tell me the ever same story. It's not a coincidence, Nick Pope shares the very same opionion. Beside Hynek, and Poher, the guy belongs to the most experienced serious UFOlogist in the world.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
lol
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, the comment LOL normally belongs to the toolkit of shills, who ridicule
facts. Since I've learned, you suffer from mental problems, it shouldn't be considered.
But I feel sorry for you. Without any cinism.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
buddy007, clamour! Original intention of Greer in the cold war era was to declassify UFO files. This was indeed honorable. Cold war has gone and near all western countries published their UFO files under FOIA or whatever. However, Greer is a MD - and not a PD. So he bought into fantastic stories of opportunistic snake-oil sellers, and, harmed much more, than he did good. Since I'm a graduated el. engineer, I can judge the hairraising nonsense, eg. a Fouche or Denyo babble - and Greer parrot. ...
sacha4you 3 years ago
... (ff) I agree completly, that if serious, scientific investigation were done, the enigma could solved withing months. The big problem is, people are far not ready for truth. They want rather to believe
than to know. To prevent dire socal, economic and political disruptions, govts still hold back some cases. I guess, it will us take a couple of centuries until we'll have become ready. Wait up the first terran will be curious enough to use a CD to take a spectrocgram from a UFO.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
Nick Pope could also be a deliberate misinformer...
marihyong 3 years ago
that's a possibility, yes.
and to be honest. the more i see of Pope, the more i'm leaning towards that direction.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, congratulation. You learn to turn on your brain and start thinking for yourself!
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
yes. after almost a year of preaching to people that they should think more for themselfes, i finally start to do so myself after reading YOUR enlightened comments.
yes. realy. no sarcasm intended.
x.x
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, I think, there is some hope for you.
Before you call me an idiot, I'd suggest, you started to learn, what a scientific proof is, and why this is important.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
o yeah? you think there's some hope for me? woooot! thank you sacha!!
yes. i will hury now to go learn about this "scientific proof" you talk about. it sounds very important although i have NO idea what it might be.
thank you for helping me to get smarter and to make me less gullible. i hope one day i will be as smart as you. you're a real friend!!
x.x
CCLJunky 3 years ago
You are welcome.
yes. realy. no sarcasm intended.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
Problem with Greer is he says a lot of things and does not back them up with evidence.
buddry007 3 years ago
The problem with Greer goes even deeper. First, he is a MD - and not a PD. Hence he can't judge, if somebody babbles pseudoscientific things (e.g. like Fouche, Lazar, etc. do) He buy into this babble and jump on quick conclusions. Then he finance himself by selling books, DVDs and, testimonies. Everbody, who claims being a highranking official, can deposit a testimony about fantastic claims. Days later, you can
buy it from his website.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago 2
hey sacha. i see you're still spreading your lies and false claims on YT :)
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, well I see. You've started once more a rapid fire machine gun posting. However truth does neither comes from gun barrels, nor from belief, but from thoroughly done investigations. Fortunatly, Greer's fantastic-story-telling whistleblowers are not clever enough to be quiet when asked about physical details. So you can debunk them. Not always easily, but you can. E.g. have you ever asked, if a 'superconducting mercury plasma at 250kbar' [Fouche] is physically possible?
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
not true.
he has collected TONS of evidence. all ready and available, just waiting to be investigated by congress.
CCLJunky 3 years ago
CCLJunky, tell me the museum, where a I can watch a downed alien saucer, or where can I find the paper that shows, that Dr. Leir's alleged alien implants are doubtless ET transmitters? Yes we have TONS of claims and hypotheses - but not one single tangible proof. Once again: Nobody denies today existence of UFOs, but even for unexplainables more than one possible explanation exist. Hence, we neeed solid, verifyable proofs - and not beliefs.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
he doesn't believe Dr. Steven Greer and the claims he's making with "The Disclosure Project"??
wow. Pope just lost big points in my "cool" book.
the guy is way to conservative about the subject :(
CCLJunky 3 years ago
I agree 100%
fresshness2001 3 years ago