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  • @vinoivoire1 - why would Jesus want us to be rich in a world that he does not want us to conform to? God is not making these people rich, He is handing them over to there own sin......

  • The prosperity gospel will take a lot of people to hell. It does not preach holiness, reverent fear of God almighty. it is sad that so many people do not see this.

  • pastors against prosperity preaching=broke pastors

  • Wealth tends to weaken us, frail as we are. Jesus knew this and gave us fair warning. If we have food, clothing, shelter we should be satisfied. A lot of people in the world are missing one or more of those things and would consider us blessed. I'd like to think God blesses some with more so they can help more. Makes sense to me.

  • I am not all exactly with Creflo...But I sense jealousy not biblical defense from the ministers who are against this teaching....The is blessings cannot be exactly measured but its upon the reciepient who wants more or less.

  • I am not all exactly with Creflo...But I sense jealousy not biblical defense from the ministers who are against this teaching....The is blessings cannot be exactly measured but its upon the reciepient who wants more or less.

  • Judas was his treasure. That just meant that he carried whatever funds they had. That doesnt mean that he had a lot of money.

  • I see no problem with him getting wealth, because the bible says that it is God who gives us the power to get wealth, but I read the bible and it talks about a Harlot etc. This government should require them to pay taxes on all this wealth, the Churches have no real connection to confronting the issues of the day, you know A.I.D.S., drug addiction, and politics. The church should be confronting politics and social issues. As long as they pay no taxes, they keep their mouths shut. GET ACTIVE!

  • The better life isn't here. This world is fallen. One can do all they can to avoid hardship and pain, but at some point it will happen. It's better to say "Well, that hurt, but that's life. Thanks for helping me through this Lord." Instead of "What!? But God is supposed to keep me away from all that! I quit!" Not once did He ever say that this life is easy. But he promises us that He will always share the burden.

  • a pimp plain and simple.

  • O spiritually dead ones, you know nothing of the things of God, for the natural man is opposed to those things which are spiritual and so then is unable to discern sacred truths that are given by God to His children because they instead have chosen to seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15, These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. Jude 19

  • O spiritually dead ones, you do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience. You wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. Your desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart. Fall before the alter of prosperity and materialism, for that is your true desire and reward.

  • O spiritually dead ones, fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, stand before your altar of deceit, pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils, For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6, But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition, Timothy 6:9

  • O spiritually dead ones, pay homage to these fools who teach these despicable doctrines because you have chosen to venerate them for they have become your idols, submit and adore them for you walk among the dead, Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. Revelation3:17

  • O spiritually dead ones, stand before your altar of materialism, for it is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God, who is not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men. You who seek fleshy wisdom for you are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty. You who are helpless and lost regarding the things of God because you have placed your faith in the wisdom of men.

  • O spiritually dead ones, fall quickly before the altar of prosperity and wretchedness, sit with much anticipation awaiting your riches, for the foolish man seeks after temporal things for he has no heart for God because he is spiritually dead. Quickly, defend these fools for you have no desire for godly wisdom nor to glorify Him, for you have only contempt for spiritual knowledge and wisdom. Fall quickly before this altar, you who loathe His children, detest His attributes and despise His word.

  • "As long as we can see lives changed and hope restored, it's worth it all."

    I thought Jesus' teaching was about preparation for heaven and the next world, not about comfort and succour in this world.

  • @Mojosbigstick Yes, you are correct. You demonstrated you have more knowledge of the gospel than Creflo can boast!

  • Suddenly, the love of Jesus... The love of a TRUE KING and eternal life wasn't enough for these people.

  • MONEY IS A GOOD SERVANT, BUT A TERRIBLE MASTER. make laws to control this !!

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  • God is not prospering them HE is handing these people over to their sin!!! Because they love money more than the King of Glory Jesus Christ

  • Jesus would never cosign this prosperity garbage, in fact Jesus said we as believers would suffer for the cross here on earth, look at all the disciples, each of them suffered for the gospel, they weren't rich wealthy men preaching about how the farmers of those days could be wealthy. The preached about salvation period, money was NEVER a factor. These so called preachers make my stomach turn! The fact that the guys name has "dollar" in it is hilarious!

  • Being rich is good, Being poor is stupid .

  • do higher grades, new houses, new cars, sobriety, etc. mean that a person is saved? is holy? is pleasing to God? is going to escape the wrath of God?

  • @vinoivoire1 1 Timothy 6 rebukes both you and Creflo completely. Read it. Learn it. Understand it.

  • 09/20/2010 The Trap of Seduction. Program this week on Creflo Dollar.

  • 09/17/2010 "Freedom From Worldly Lust (Part 2)."  Program this week on Creflo Dollar.

  • I don't mind the fact that he's got money... What bothers the snot out of me are the unbiblical lies and heresies he employs to exploit those who give it to him.

  • 09/16/2010 "Freedom From Worldly Lust'  Program this week on Creflo Dollar.

  • 09/15/2010 "LIVING FREE FROM LUST (PART 2) ."  Program this week on Creflo Dollar.

  • 09/14/2010 "LIVING FREE FROM LUST." Program this week.

  • Cashflow Dollar

  • christiacaïne is one hell of a drug

  • The quotable false prophet Creflo Dollar, "You're not a sinner saved by grace you sons and daughters of the Most High God. You are gods!" "I speak to fig trees! I speak to mountains! I cast out demons! Hallelujah! I raise the dead! If need be I walk on water! I'm a god of the Most High God!" "Well, you need to hear about money, because you ain't gonna have no love and joy and peace until you get some money!" "Jesus didn't come as God, He came as a man, and He did not come perfect."

  • The quotable false prophet Creflo Dollar "I have equality with God, that's my way of thinking. Now somebody says, 'Well, it's hard to think that way.' Well, keep saying it, 'I have equality with God.' Talk yourself into it! You've talked yourself into other things!" "I don't have to tolerate sickness! I don't have to tolerate bondage! I don't have to tolerate debt! I don't have to tolerate lack! I don't have to tolerate insufficiency! I don't have to be broke, busted, and disgusted all my life.

  • The quotable Creflo Dollar, My God is a God that has me the power to get wealth." "God wants you driving good, dressing good, looking good, because He is good!" "I'm telling you, Jesus wasn't poor, and He didn't wear no rags, either; like we march in on these Easter little plays that we do at our church, with those raggedy sheets on. Jesus didn't have no rags on. He wore designer clothes, honey!" "Somebody might say, 'Well, I don't believe it.' Well, you probably wouldn't with your broke self.”

  • why are some tv preachers so greedy? does he really need 200 million dollar all by himself. I cant understand this..

  • I have a sermon..where he teaches why Jesus couldnt have been GOD!....nothing else to say..he is of the devil

  • I love seeing RICH BLACK PEOPLE. Keep up the good work,you RICH, African Americans. $80 million a year!!!!!! WOW !!!! Creflo Dollar is do something RIGHT to pull in that much a YEAR. WOW !!!! AND HE'S A MILLIONAIRE. YOU GO.............BOY.

  • If Al Sharpton says it's bad, then I'm all in!!!

  • Feed the poor, give to the widow and orphan and you will have treasure in HEAVEN!

  • Dollar is a false prophet!

  • If any man preaches a gospel other than the one I (Paul) has preached to you let him be eternally damned! That's pretty clear, no?

  • wait wait wait Al Sharpton has Galls to critisize the Man of GOD....AL look yourselve in the mirror first you two timing hypocrite, What about all the Money he blackmail all these institution. How many BLACK families have you help in your city alone, before u used Sharpton as a point of reference check your sources please....

  • The quotable False Prophet Creflo Dollar, You are gods. Once you begin to realize that you are God's children and you are little gods on this planet. All right! I'm going to say something, you are gods on this earth. And it's about time we start operating like gods instead of a bunch of mere powerless humans. That's why I believe in little lords. Little 'g' turn to your neighbor and say, 'Hello little g'. Come on! Turn aside and say, 'Hello little g. Creflo preaches the lie of the Serpent.

  • The quotable False Prophet Creflo Dollar, A son of God, they are those through a understanding of their divine nature, they can operate like God on the earth. And yet we want to continue to live like mere men You need to begin to act like God on this planet. Do you still go around in that false ignorant humility that you are just mere men? Did you know that angels actually listen to and act on the words we speak? Creflos blasphemy equates mans position and authority on earth with Gods

  • The quotable False Prophet Creflo Dollar, As we have seen, a mighty host of angels is waiting to hear the words of God come out of a believer's mouth. When you have bills that need to be paid, speak the Word. Speak out things like this. When angels hear God's Word coming out of your mouth, they go into action, moving and influencing in the spirit realm to make God's covenant words come to pass for you. Jesus didnt come as God, He came as a man, and He did not come perfect.

  • The quotable False Prophet Creflo Dollar, When you are living and walking in the presence of Almighty God, sickness has to go. No disease can withstand His presence When you live in His presence, poverty and insufficiency must flee. There can be no lack in the presence of the God. Creflo states, But Jesus didnt show up perfect. He grew into His perfection. Creflo Dollar by his own words denies the innate Divine Nature of Christ. which is contrary to the Word of God and is an abominable heresy.

  • wow-i never saw this on fox5news-good news package.

  • I'm in no way a christian, but isnt one of the definitions of heaven in the bible, the end of all desires? Do they think that this is wrong, in some way, that heaven is like Duckburg gone mad, with an infinite number of McDucks? Everyone has their own moneybin, mansion and companies? Whats the point of everyone getting rich? Have they never heard of inflation? Fuckwits. Braindfucked shitwits.

  • it is easier to shove a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • These blind sheep are paying him to de-evangalize by the masses! Before I even mention Jesus to someone they have in their mind this hypocrite and if they believe him they look at my assets and dismiss me and if they don't believe him they run when they hear Jesus.

  • Well, if you look CLEARLY at the scripture, especially when Jesus spoke parable, there was always a rich man who ended up on the downside, and a poor man on the upside. Why? Because, just like back then, people have become haughty, desirers of their own heart and extremely boastful. Why would Christ want you to be rich in a world He doesn't want you to be comformed to? Money is a root of all evil...scripture is a not a basis for just speakin on financial issues...shalom.

  • this heresy turns Christ into no more than a deified santa claus. Christ himself is the treasure not a means of satisfying carnal wants. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BORN AGAIN TO NOT WANT POVERTY, SICKNESS,...ETC. YOU DO HAVE TO TO WANT CHRIST, NOT COMFORT, AS TREASURE.

    Luke 12/15 And he said to them, Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.

  • ...32 Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

  • 1 Tim. 6/6 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, 7 for we brought nothing into the world, and [3] we cannot take anything out of the world. 8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content.

  • 9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

  • MARK 1029,30 And JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID: There is NO MAN that has left house, or brethren, or sister or brothers, father or mother, that has left house or lands for My gospels sake...But HE SHALL RECEIVE AN hundred fold NOW in THIS TIME,HOUSES and brethren and children and LANDS-WITH PERSECUTIONS (YOUR STONES)and in the world to come eternal life.

  • For the time will come when they will not endure sound

    doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to

    themselves teachers, having itching ears;"

    2 Timothy 4:3

  • manhoot...as you knash your teeth at your brethren, remember it is God who raises oneup and sits one down. He has blessed my souls as I fast and pray for two years, I discern spirit. You have a spirit that does not restore, you are a strife sower quoting scripture, You know a man by his fruit. And if GOd is letting the wheat come up with the weeds, when did he call you to discredit men of God who preach the gospel? I dont see that gift or calling?I see that we are to pray for them.

  • matt. 8/19 And a scribe came up and said to him, Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go. 20 And Jesus said to him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head. =homeless

    and,

    matt 6/19 Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth,... but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

  • Jesus did NOT have an accountant. That is heresy.

  • @manhoot LOL. doesn't even make any sense......christiantity sure is a powerful religion. u can literally control people with it if it is abused. a shame indeed.

    but seriously, don't his members see anything wrong with this money gospel thing?

  • @shasanni The don't. Because Creflo teaches a false gospel, tickles their itching ears, and convinces people that they cannot be saved until they "prosper:" All of which is moot because the gospel does not teach such things. And if his blind flock would actually READ their bibles, they would reject out of hand his false doctrine.

  • @manhoot John 12:4-6...judas was keeper of the money box, which translate to treasurer. Just saying...

  • @JCMySoulsBoast treasurer and accountants are two different things. Once again, Creflo is simply twisting scripture to justify is abominable false teachings about prosperity and how it and it alone will make life better for us all.

  • @manhoot It makes me sad as a Catholic that people like dollar are twisting the Gospel to make themselves rich.

  • Unclean mouths...start with your own soul before condemning others. Good and evil does not come out of the same cistern, neither should you judge a man of GOd when your mouth professes wickedness. Salvation to you in Jesus name. May the power of the Lords ressurection break your bonds of hatred and judgement. Many mercies to you all in the name of the Lord Jesus.

  • TOUCH NOT my anointed and do my prophets no harm. His gifts have mde room for him...he serves and he sows into the kingdom...you who sow in strife will reap in strife. He can handle owning such things, because he has the revelation that he has those things -they do not have him. It is sad to see the body biting itself. How many souls have you led to Christ, or how many have you now led to STRIFE?

  • Creflo, you are enjoying your reward now. I'm gonna wait for heaven, I know its gonna be better than anything you show me. I want to be like Christ. I hope to see you there but Im not sure I will. I wont say bless you because it seems you dont need blessing. Ill say, check yourself.

  • He said that he will "support candidates that beleive in the principles of his church" I cant beleive that people trust this guy, but the bible clearly says that even the very elect will be fooled.

  • Prosperity gospel is in direct opposition to the Doctrine of Jesus Christ! You can't justifiy materialism, covetousness, self gratification, pride are all against the Doctrine of Jesus Christ stands for. You can't believe man , but believe GOD and read the word of GOD . John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

  • pretty much anything protestant is heresy.

  • How 'bout repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ alone for your eternal salvation?

  • man hoot... u tickle me. we need Jesus huh? let me share something with u, when u say that someone needs Jesus it makes u seem as if u have arrived already... in other words, u act like "YOU" no longer need him, like u saved yourself, like your righteousness is not as a filthy rag! i'm not even gonna confront te issue about the hummer cause i'm not grieved by your ignorance. but what i will say is YES u r right we do need Jesus! my church needs him, just like every church does duh! and u too!

  • Read the scriptures. They speak strongly against love of money and lusting after material things.

  • He uses money for the kingdome, sowing...I am sure yuo would have persecuted Abraham for being as rich as DOnald Trumph in that day. Creflo writes books, through His gifts he is blessed. Do you comment on Oprah for making so much money and saying Jesus isnt real? Mostl likely not you are busy biting your own body perhaps? Salvation to you who are sowers of strife, how many hours have you spent praying for Creflo?

  • Creflo needs to repent and stop spewing false teachings.

    Donald Trump does not prostitute the word of god for his gain. Creflo does.

  • You pimp hatred my brother, are you discrediting every sermon that he has preached regrding humbling, making the Kingdom of GOd your first and foremost, his sermons on forgiveness. All because her has a better car than you? Why can a man not enjoy the fruit of his gifts as the Word says> He sows into kingdom building. You will get eternal life for sowing into kingdom tearing? Salvation to you my brother.

  • When Creflo repents and rebukes the fake, manipulative prosperity gospel and lives the life of a humble servant, then I will lay off.

  • aND IS THAT WHEN YOU WILL PRAY FOR HIM TOO? HMM

  • I agree with you He is the best I have learned so much from him ,Not just about prosperity but all subjects, God said in His word He desires us to prosper and be in Health,even as our soul prospers, there are so many verses on it .

  • Antbody that turns the spiritual teachings of the Holy Bible into crass materialism, as these prosperity preachers do, is a false teacher. The New Testament writers are very harsh in dealing with them.

  • Fuck creflo!!!

  • If the giving of gifts , high salaries, high class transportation was done volunatary by the church members and the board of the place where the pastor ( man or woman ) preaches at.. Well there is nothing wrong that legally or whatever. to say that this is not biblical may be right or wrong. I could be wrong about this; what do you think?

  • Thats my Brother in Christ Creflo Dollar We are rich because God is very reach to provide our everything we need. To GOD be the GLORY

  • Creflo is your brother in sin, not Christ. Repent and admit you are a sinner deceived by the prosperity gospel.

  • why did they cut it off at the end!!!?? yea did all ou critics hear that?! he gave back over 28 million to the church! and how is he suppose to turn down gifts like that!? i go to a church where we gave my pastor a brand new hummer! anything wrong with that!?

  • Yes, plenty.

    The gospel of greed or prosperity theology is wrong because it puts man not Jesus at the center of the chruch. It teaches that God is a genie that obeys your commands like declare a financial harvest from your 100 dollar seed.

    And as for your church buying your pastor a hummer, I say your church is full of thieves. With that excess money, people who really do need help, those who are Lost and condemned to hell, could have benefited mightily. As such, you chose material wealth over

  • spiritual wealth. And I am shocked and dismayed your pastor took that hummer rather than a more modest and less costly mode of transport.

    Your church needs to come back to the cross. You need Jesus and your pastor needs Jesus, not a new hummer.

  • you know people dont understand that there are blessings and riches laid up for the righteous and god blesses his people.. just and unjust.. people think that because a preacher is prosperous, that he is indeed preaching prosperity and man exaltation when it is actually GOD BLESSING HIS PEOPLE! there is nothing wrong with that. you guys got your pastor a hummer but that was god being a blessing to him through you guys.. AND THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW,lol some people are just TOOOO DEEP 4 me!lol

  • do your thing crefflo! see you in glory!

  • still don't mean he was rich.

  • well he sure did get "prosperous" by taking other folks money and recording his crappy sermons onto cds and putting his shitty views into books. oh yea, gankin his followers....

  • did jesus have a treasurer?

  • Creflo's a doctor right, so why doesn't he get money from his job instead of ripping it off from Jesus' sheep? I think Proverbs said something about being hard working right. Its all right to get money by hard work, but not to get possessed with it. These deceived people think they can throw away their money to a preacher, don't work and God will just give them money? Abraham had to do alot of traveling. Joseph got rich and he didn't strive after his wealth without going through hardship.

  • Yes i did.

  • Beware of the many false prophets who teach regularly on TBN. These wolves in sheeps clothing teach of a Third Movement classified as the Third Wave of Signs and Wonders that is comprised of Word Faith Doctrines that make God subservient to man due to the belief that God must operate under certain spiritual laws dictated by men. Please stay away from these heretical teaching, may the Lord rebuke these false prophets that practice these detestable doctrines!

  • Creflo-dollar does it means creating floods of dollars?

  • 1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

  • 1Ti 6:6 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment,

    1Ti 6:7 for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.

    1Ti 6:8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content.

    1Ti 6:9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.

  • well he had better enjoy his ill gained wealth now, he wont be able to spend it in hell. That is where he will end unless he repents and that sadly is where he is leading his followers.

  • Even Al Sharpton preaches against this wake up America!

  • Jesus said, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

    "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God."

    "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

    "A faithful man will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished."

  • The reply to the first script u quoted was, with man it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

    second script, blessed are the poor(spiritually poor)

    third, that word is not money it is mammon. Mammon is a system, which you covet money. If you chose working over going to church, working over spending time in the word, if you are not a tither and a giver, if you have not invested in the kingdom, by giving to ministries other than your own, you are indeed serving mammon.

  • Amen!

  • People are so easily conned...yep with feigned words, they'll make merchandise of your soul and teach doctrines of demons...covet after your money, and he plans to be more political with those who support his con and he'll in turn will also support their political agenda...

  • How can a man preach the word of God without a Rolls Royce and a mansion? You got to sing for bling if you want some things. Is there even one example of a real man of God who doesn't have a sweet ride and a lavish home effectively spreading the gospel of salvation available through Jesus Christ's sacrifice for us on the cross? Oh a wait a minute a person next to me just said they go to a church that focuses on Scriptural Doctrine and he told me he has some news for me, I'll get back to ya.

  • 2 Peter 2:1

    And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

  • I wonder if his next door neighbours are saved or going to hell while he jet sets around.

  • is your neighbors saved or going to hell as a result of who you are to them?

  • well I'm working on it but unfortunatley real christians have quite a job on their hands when they present REAL christianity to people due to so many fake christians spreading lies and false doctrine.

  • The only thing you have to do is operate in love in order to win lost people. LOVE is the badge of the believer. As long as we are at one another's necks, the world will not see Christ.

  • What is REAL christianity? Christianity is a 'religion"! Christ did not come so set up a religion, man did that. Christ came to set up his KINGDOM! That is what He preached and that is what his diciples preached.....the KINGDOM. All of that other stuff is man made! Tell me where christ told us to be called "christians"!

  • A christian is a follower of Jesus.A real christian does not interpret scripture to fulfill their own needs nor do they use scripture out of context to carry out plans that go against the will of God.A real christian reads the scripture and with the knowledge they gain from it they humbly dismantle their own idea of who they are and conform their mind to that of Christ.A real christian strives to live the life of Christ and daily denies the desires of the flesh so as to fulfill their purpose

  • That's all man made stuff peeps. Christ never told us to be called Christians! This stuff that you are saying is only something that you heard someone tell you! Bless you!

  • Ok then how would you describe someone who believes the bible and follows it?

  • a son of the Most High God, a King, a "believer", or a Kingdom citizen. I know you never heard that in church, but that's why you need to get in a real "word" church, where the word is being taught! Who is your pastor and what church do you attend?

  • Ok actually I have heard that before but to be honest I don't think what you call yourself is of any importance.I stopped going to church a couple of years ago so I don't have a pastor, I study the bible for myself and meet up with other beleivers regularly.I pop into churches now and then but when I do it reminds me why I don't go.Lots of beleivers don't really beleieve and subsequently their churches are dead and stale or else they try to copy pop culture to get more members.I'm not into it.

  • This is why you need to be connected to a local church. If you see these issues, and it bothers you, maybe god has called you to connect to these churches and address them, so that they can be corrected. If you see a problem and don't confront it, God holds you just as resposible for the problem as the ones causing the problem. You need to get back in church, because the local church needs you!

  • Who told you to speak english? Calling ourselves christian is to simply make it clear as to what one believes. But of course people distort it.

  • No, call yourself what God calls us: Kings, SONS, SAINTS, BELIEVERS! Ungodly people called the diciples Christians at Antioc!

  • 1 Peter 4:16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.

    I guess Peter didn't know what he was talking about.

  • I told you call yourself what GOD calls us, not PETER callED us. Notice i said what Peter CALLED us! Peter is Peter, he was a man just like you and me. God calls the shots! Peter was inspired by God to write, so he wrote under the inspiration.

  • If Peter was writing under the direction of the Holy Spirit then God Himself wanted Peter to call those that follow Christ, Christians. So, I am calling myself a Christian.

  • YOu are a grown man, do what you do! I'm just tellin' you that God never called you that or instructed you to call yourself that.

  • To Kingdomswagg7,

    Didnt the Holy Spirit reveal to the Apostle Peter what to write?

    Youre right, God does call the shots. But Peter didnt write his epistle independent of himself. God wrote the epistle through Peter....Thus God calls His people Christians in 1Peter 4:16

  • GOd also inspirted Peter to preach to the Gentiles but did he do it? NO! God had to send a prophet to him to tell him to do so. He finally obeyed, but after he did so, the church found out that he did so and he wthdrew and Paul had to rebuke his butt!

    Saying all that to say, Peter was a man that made mistakes so he does not has the final say so!

  • 1Peter 1:20-21

    20But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, 21for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

    In 1Peter 4:16 Peter spoke the ((((Words of God)))), not the word of Peter.

    God is the One who calls His people Christians.

  • To Kingdomswagg7

    The Scriptures arent the words of the writers.

    The Scriptures are the Words of the Author, and in 1Peter 4:16, God Himself calls His people Christians.

    No one is saying Peter has the final say so, or any say so.

    We are saying God is the one who calls His people Christians by way of Peter. 1Peter 4:16 is not Peter's decree, it is Gods decree.

    ((((I dont know how else to say this to you)))

    God wrote the Scriptures, not Peter

  • Listen to the Word of God through Jesus' brother James

    James 2:7

    "Do they not blaspheme the fair name by which you have been called?"

    What was the 'name' James was referring to?

  • cool beans bro. Jesus called me "SON", FRIEND, SALT OF THE EARTH, LIGHT OF THE WORLD, ECT. IM gonna rock with Him! DO YOU!

  • Kingdomswagg7,

    God Himself calls His people many things. He called His people (((Israel))) at one point the name HARLOTS...

    But to act as He didnt call His people Christians is not Biblically accurate.

  • cool bro. Call yourself Christian. I was just trying to enlighten you on some things. Be blessed.

  • To Kingdomswagg7,

    I heard many people say that God doesnt want His people being called Christians....

    But I havent heard you or any of these people respond to 1 Peter 4:16 where the Apostle Peter himself calls God's people "Christians".

  • first things first, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL! Its simply about knowing your rights and privilages as a citizen in the Kingdom of God! Until you understand that you are a King, a SON, no longer a servant, of the most high God, you will continue to think like the people who are feeding you with this "stuff" about some "prosperity gospel"!

  • We will always be servants of the most high God.Sons or not.When pastors preach they serve,when musicians play they serve,when ushers pass around the collection plate they serve.We are all servants of God if we so choose to be within His flock!

  • you say your parking lot is full of expesive cars -- do you think Jesus would be driving those cars? and if so -- pls ck where jesus was born and look at his lifstyle

  • please read verses in context... It says that Jesus was born in a manger, but please tell me why that was? Here I will give you the answer 'BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ROOMS AVAILABLE AT THE INN' If you look at cultural history you will find that Josheph(Jesus' father) was a carpenter which if you study further you will find out that carpenters were NOT poor and ontop of that they were mid to upper class. Dont focus on a single verse read it all in context.

  • Creflo teaches that Jesus was rich--- where in the bible does it say this? when referring to the richer young ruler who was sad when Jesus tld him to sell his possesions, Creflo told people on CNN that the rich young ruler later did sell his posessions and received 100 fold for every thing he sold -- this is not a twisting of scripture it is simply a lie-- may God show mercy on Creflo just as we all need mercy!!

  • As i can see, you have allowed RINGO4LIFE, whom is not even a believer! Anyway, creflo was referring to the end of the text when the diciples responded "we have left all to follow you", and Christ said that whomever have left, house, land, ect shall recieve a hunded fold, houses,lands,brothers ect.

  • yes and the apostles did receive 100 fold as fellow christians sold property and gave money in fact put it at the feet of the apostles as Jesus stated-- notice what the apostles did with it- the gave it to people in need -- what does Creflo do with it dear brother? homes, cars, jets, ect....

  • Creflo goes oversees and builds housing for 3rd world countries and builds local churches for them to attend. Also, he bought a whole block in the College Park area and rebuilt the whole neighborhood. What more do you need to see?

  • Mormon churches do wonderful these for the poor,so do JW , so does American Idol, so what does that mean? that because he spends money on the poor that he is not a false teacher? He teaches heresy plain and simple

  • What are you doing for the poor? And you call him a false teacher for no other reason but because you heard someone else say so. Be a leader, not a follower.

    again, what are you doing for the poor?

  • He teaches heresy IN YOUR EYES, through what you head someone else say.

  • (kingdm) its not what i hear someone else say - they say it for themselves-- you cant dicern this is false? - maybe because you dont want to -- God help your itching ears - and god help us all

  • kindomswagg7,

    I really like the way you question people as tho questioning people puts more credability to what you say. I have heard you ask "do you pray in the spirit every day" or "do you have church hurt" and now your asking another question "what do i do for the poor" (k) that is not the question to ask, in fact it makes no diff what i do or not do for the poor. Creflo Dollar is a false teacher learned his stealing from Kenneth Copland check it for yourself.

  • Again, while they are teaching the word,empowering folks lives, you are sitting behind a computer typing. If you were the believer you were supposed to be, you would not have time to bash other people, because you would be spending all of your time, building people up.

  • the reason Jesus told the rich man to give his money and sell his possessions was because the rich man loved his money over all things. Where in the Bible does it say Jesus was poor? It says He was made poor but that is talking about Him leaving His riches in Heaven to come here. Study the word properly and you will see that He wasn't poor.

  • kingdom swagg--- i know that you believe in what you feel. it is very apparent, but that is just my point, i asked you where in the bible did Jesus have a treasurer and you answer with your feeling of living good, and giving, this was not Gospel's message, --- again the question where in the bible does it say that Jesus had a treasurer? "An wicked and adulterous generation looks to signs and wonders above sound doctrine

  • where in the bible does it mention that Jesus had a treasurer?

  • john 12:6 his name was Judus

  • Yea bro I checked that out about Judas, I guess someone has to do the dirty work. I love to have money but I don't think I would sell out Jesus for money ,if that is what your getting at., but if you think that is OK Dude more power to ya, I suppose Jesus can take care of himself, to each his own bro ,

  • Dude, don't just read one verse and think that JUDAS (correctly spelled) was Jesus' "treasurer". Verse 4 of ch. 12 said that Judas was about to betray Jesus. Verse five, Judas was upset that they didn't sell the oil that Mary used to grease Jesus' feet. And verse 6 shows that Judas was not concerned about the poor, BUT WAS A THEIF!!! Do you honestly think that even if Jesus had a treasurer, which he did not, that he would not be a thief?!? Read the context, it all makes sense.

  • Hey greg, what kind of prayer life do you have? Do you have a quiet time where you spend time praying in the Spirit(do you pray in the Spirit), reading the word?

  • I don't have to prove myself to you by answering such questions. Is this your response to everyone who proves from the scriptures the truth of a matter? However, I talk to the LORD God whenever I feel like talking to him about anything that goes on in my life, good or bad. I read "in an undertone day and night" from His Word. (Psalms 1:2)