The music kicks ass!!!! Also once again confirms why I after all these years grappling with the hypocrisies of religion and the rank BS it is, I am an atheist today.
amazing how christians come out to deny such videos, spouting there nonsense at the same time, then tell us that there imaginarty friend has it all in hand. eh
these neds just dont get it, and there the ones that have this great faith in there imaginary friend. i say, stay away from these vidoes and leave it to your imaginary friend for phuk sake. faithless twats.
i like how people also worship the cross when Gods second commandment says this is heretical----any priest you see with a cross make sure you rmeind them to repent for their heinous SIN
“Anyone who attacks[c] their father or mother is to be put to death.
Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft-->fuckin eeeh
ALSO-- “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. " god advocates slavery.....what a GREAT guy....
"Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.” ---direct quote from the bible----even moses in the same sentence contradicts himself---he says to not be afraid and then directly says that fear is a nessesity used to keep you from sinning---
The anti-Paulians are always misunderstanding Matthew 5:17-18. Jesus said:
"Do not think I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish but to FULFILL. I tell you the truth, until heaven or earth disappear, not the smallest letter or the least sroke of a pen will by any means disappear UNTIL all is FULFILLED."
And what did Jesus come to do? FULFILL the Laws and the Prophets....
@nebulajr Abolish means to destroy, an extreme alternative to being made complete. He did specifically say the law would disappear after it was fulfilled, and what did He come to do? Fulfill the law. I've made that clear.
Jesus never says the Torah will disappear. You have created this idea. Show me where Jesus says the "law" will disapperar once it is "fulfilled" (given it's full meaning).
1) to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
2) to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
c) to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
1) of matters of duty: to perform, execute
2) of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
3) to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment
@nebulajr Lol. God forbid if anything in mainstream Christianity is acually true... -_- (sarcasm.) He meant basically the same thing as fulfilling prophecy. Look up Jeremiah 31:31. If you want a non-litteral interpritation of the Genesis account, look up the work done by Dr. Gerald Schroeder. I recommend a video here called: Gerald Schroeder Genesis & the Big Bang. I apologize for my earlier sarcasm, but I have little patience with hyper-skeptics.
you say, "he meant" how do you know what he meant? You have the same book I do. If you're going to create your own idea of what Jesus meant, then your reasoning will definitely be circular.
@nebulajr I said "He meant" by reading the whole book and determining it's meaning by looking at the context. You're allowed to do that, you know. You're the one inventing a Jesus. And a Torah.
@nebulajr Psuedo.... Skeptic. Jeremiah 31:31 is prophetic. Hence, the begenning phrase "The day is COMING declares the Lord..." Jews don't believe in a New Covenant. They believed, and still do believe the Mosiach will establish the Mosaic Law throughout the world. (that is, if they believe in a "super Messiah" at all."
"If you reject even the least important command in the Law and teach others to do the same, you will be the least important person in the kingdom of heaven"
@nebulajr sigh.... I KNOW. That's because the law wasn't fulfilled until He gave up His spirit on the cross and said "It is Finished!" Please, read the book! It's like arguing over who Bella should be with without watching Twilight, or reading it.
@nebulajr I've seen that. You've misrepresented these verses horribly to support your bias. I don't know a single scholar who supports this translation. I keep an ancient hebrew and a greek scholar + theologin handy and I'm certain you've misrepresented these verses. No credible scholar would stand behind you. Even your "translations" in the beginning of the word "Eloheym." Later, with proper prenunciation "Elohim." Elohim means "god" and in the bible is attributed to God, angels and idols.
I'm not anti Paul either, most Christians are as they take the quotes that are the most fitting to what they want to believe then distort them to fit the replacement theology of choice.
hey, you know i think religion is utter nonsense, but i don't think a cogent argument appealing to reason is going to change the mind of anyone who takes a book with a talking snake and 700 year old humans literally. People who do that have suspended disbelief to the extent that no obvious observation (snakes NEVER talk, people NEVER live that long) will change their mind.
I agree with what you say and with logic, historical evidence, and archeological evidence one should see a literal interpretation of the Bible as just plain silly.
But my point is, that most of the religious world population refuse to educate themselves and choose to stay ignorant of science but will hold on tight to the Bible and believe everything written in it. So what Im doing is proving that a literal interpretation actually contradicts what Christianity is all about.
@nebulajr No primitive tribe is ever that primitive that they believe their own myths literally. The closet are American Christians, who believe somebody else's tribal creation myth literally.
The music kicks ass!!!! Also once again confirms why I after all these years grappling with the hypocrisies of religion and the rank BS it is, I am an atheist today.
NotaDino1 4 months ago
amazing how christians come out to deny such videos, spouting there nonsense at the same time, then tell us that there imaginarty friend has it all in hand. eh
these neds just dont get it, and there the ones that have this great faith in there imaginary friend. i say, stay away from these vidoes and leave it to your imaginary friend for phuk sake. faithless twats.
kram83au 11 months ago
christains show me a talking donkey or stfu
UberLogic 1 year ago
“Do not allow a sorceress to live."---another quote that sparked centuries of witch burnings...soooo bloody
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
i like how people also worship the cross when Gods second commandment says this is heretical----any priest you see with a cross make sure you rmeind them to repent for their heinous SIN
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
“Anyone who attacks[c] their father or mother is to be put to death.
Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft-->fuckin eeeh
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
ALSO-- “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. " god advocates slavery.....what a GREAT guy....
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
"Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.” ---direct quote from the bible----even moses in the same sentence contradicts himself---he says to not be afraid and then directly says that fear is a nessesity used to keep you from sinning---
---thanks for that nugget of nonsense...
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
The anti-Paulians are always misunderstanding Matthew 5:17-18. Jesus said:
"Do not think I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish but to FULFILL. I tell you the truth, until heaven or earth disappear, not the smallest letter or the least sroke of a pen will by any means disappear UNTIL all is FULFILLED."
And what did Jesus come to do? FULFILL the Laws and the Prophets....
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
And yes Jesus did come to fulfill, not abolish.
πληρόω is the word used in the original Greek text which is pronounced Play-ah-roh.
Strong’s Greek lexicon #4137
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus talk about ABOLOSHING the Torah (Law).
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr Abolish means to destroy, an extreme alternative to being made complete. He did specifically say the law would disappear after it was fulfilled, and what did He come to do? Fulfill the law. I've made that clear.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
Jesus never says the Torah will disappear. You have created this idea. Show me where Jesus says the "law" will disapperar once it is "fulfilled" (given it's full meaning).
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr "And not one jot nor title will by any means dissapear UNTIL all is FULFILLED." And what did Jesus come to do? "FULFILL THEM."
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
I will post the definition according to the lexicon #4137. I'll have to break it up in two posts as it's too long for one.
πληρόω Strong’s Greek lexicon #4137
1) to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full
a) to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally
1) I abound, I am liberally supplied
2) to render full, i.e. to complete
a) to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim
b) to consummate: a number
nebulajr 1 year ago
Cont....
1) to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
2) to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
c) to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
1) of matters of duty: to perform, execute
2) of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
3) to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr Lol. God forbid if anything in mainstream Christianity is acually true... -_- (sarcasm.) He meant basically the same thing as fulfilling prophecy. Look up Jeremiah 31:31. If you want a non-litteral interpritation of the Genesis account, look up the work done by Dr. Gerald Schroeder. I recommend a video here called: Gerald Schroeder Genesis & the Big Bang. I apologize for my earlier sarcasm, but I have little patience with hyper-skeptics.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
you say, "he meant" how do you know what he meant? You have the same book I do. If you're going to create your own idea of what Jesus meant, then your reasoning will definitely be circular.
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr I said "He meant" by reading the whole book and determining it's meaning by looking at the context. You're allowed to do that, you know. You're the one inventing a Jesus. And a Torah.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
Also, Jeremiah 31 is the new covenant restored for the Jews.
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr Psuedo.... Skeptic. Jeremiah 31:31 is prophetic. Hence, the begenning phrase "The day is COMING declares the Lord..." Jews don't believe in a New Covenant. They believed, and still do believe the Mosiach will establish the Mosaic Law throughout the world. (that is, if they believe in a "super Messiah" at all."
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
See the whole of the quote you have taken on as your own.
Matthew 5:17-19
"If you reject even the least important command in the Law and teach others to do the same, you will be the least important person in the kingdom of heaven"
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr sigh.... I KNOW. That's because the law wasn't fulfilled until He gave up His spirit on the cross and said "It is Finished!" Please, read the book! It's like arguing over who Bella should be with without watching Twilight, or reading it.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
Go to 5:17 of this video.
nebulajr 1 year ago
@nebulajr I've seen that. You've misrepresented these verses horribly to support your bias. I don't know a single scholar who supports this translation. I keep an ancient hebrew and a greek scholar + theologin handy and I'm certain you've misrepresented these verses. No credible scholar would stand behind you. Even your "translations" in the beginning of the word "Eloheym." Later, with proper prenunciation "Elohim." Elohim means "god" and in the bible is attributed to God, angels and idols.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@nebulajr You can't watch your own video and tell me your not the least bias.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
@MrZetterlund777
I'm not anti Paul either, most Christians are as they take the quotes that are the most fitting to what they want to believe then distort them to fit the replacement theology of choice.
nebulajr 1 year ago
You might want to point out how the oldest accepted Epistles, are copies of copies.
666Weegee 2 years ago
Great Point!
copies of copies of copies of copies......................
That's why there are so many contradictions.
nebulajr 2 years ago
hey, you know i think religion is utter nonsense, but i don't think a cogent argument appealing to reason is going to change the mind of anyone who takes a book with a talking snake and 700 year old humans literally. People who do that have suspended disbelief to the extent that no obvious observation (snakes NEVER talk, people NEVER live that long) will change their mind.
enigmism4life 2 years ago
@enigmism4life
I agree with what you say and with logic, historical evidence, and archeological evidence one should see a literal interpretation of the Bible as just plain silly.
nebulajr 2 years ago
@enigmism4life
But my point is, that most of the religious world population refuse to educate themselves and choose to stay ignorant of science but will hold on tight to the Bible and believe everything written in it. So what Im doing is proving that a literal interpretation actually contradicts what Christianity is all about.
nebulajr 2 years ago
@nebulajr No primitive tribe is ever that primitive that they believe their own myths literally. The closet are American Christians, who believe somebody else's tribal creation myth literally.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago