Xemnas is thinking about how Axel will return a normal somebody, and eventually in his defeat he will too. We know cause in KH3D we see Axel and a few founding members alive. But he is no longer Axel, he is Lea. Just like Xemnas and Ansem SoD is really Xehanort. And roxas became Sora. Now they gotta fix the sleeping worlds, and maybe revive Saix.
Alright, let's think about this in a different perspective. Axel is NOT dead, but going to be reborn somewhere with a heart. It may not be possible, but it's a better way to think about it. ;_; Axel will live on Forever!
@Specklebreeze27 yus!!!!! but i hear he comes back as lea, no tattoos, and its unknown if he still can control fire. ( by tattoos i mean the marks under his eeyes :O)
This scene makes me sad. I mean the way Luxord, Xigbar & Siax were talking about Axel..Dx
In the end, it sounds like Xemnas is hinting that maybe Axel is wandering in the darkness trying to find his heart. "But some things awaken through weakness. You can see Axel touched Sora's heart. When he was with Sora, perhaps he awakened too." Axel was my favorite ): I hope hes in the thrid one somehow. >.<
@13CrystalHeart yea i know theyre friends when theyre still somebodies,but the saix i knew has nothing left of his heart at all,so it kinda weirds me out.
@flameofheaven15 I would think so. Since somewhere deep there (and I mean really, really deep down there) he still cares about Axel as his best friend. Or that's what I like to believe anyways.
@Azurariolu96 yea i would like to believe that to.im still curious how lea and isa got caught in xehanort's scheme and how they turned nobodies.and why are they tryng to enter the castle.argh still so many questions.i wish nomura will pay a little attention to the games again.i want more kh.i still dnt wnt kh3.because that would be the end!!
I'm sorry but this scene is confusing for me. Axel sacrificed his life for Sora but he just sacrificed his life for nothing by getting close to Sora's heart. But Xemnas saying Lea might be revived. Please reply I just wanna get their conversation.
Wow, reading all these freakin comments on this video I didn't realize people found it that hard figuring out who Sora's Nobody was and who Roxas's Somebody was...and that they we're the same people.... I mean you would have to have played through KH2 with the inability to see/hear/read(which would be quite hard). Roxas-Sora Namine-Kairi Axel-Lea Saix-Isa Xemnas-Xehanhort Xigbar-Braig Xaldin-Dilan Vexen-Even Lexaeus-Aeleus Zexion-Ienzo sheeesh! Got it memorized?
@ Fluffymiyster Ventus had a fractured heart (as seen in birth by sleep) and sora completed it, making it whole. That's the real reason Roxas looks like Ventus
oooh..so axel's death is what made roxas show up right before entering the castle...huh..i always thought it was cuz that was where he fought riku or something. how sweet... and ppl if ur going to argue, just play all the games and get ur facts straight.. ^_^ then everybody wins...or loses..hell, pick one.
Actually, the way I've heard it, Sora just has Ventus' heart...but Sora would still be considered his own person despite this. When he gave up his heart to save Kairi, it created a Nobody. It's because he has Ven's heart that Roxas looks like him, but he came from Sora. I guess those fine details are what's up for debate here.
I really can't say much about the Namine/Kairi thing though, although if she came from no one (Namine), why join with Kairi then? And...heh, Axel as Riku's Nobody. Ha!
@Fluffymiyster Doesn't it talk about Namine and Kairi in one of the secret Ansem's reports in KH II? I thought it said something about how Namine is Kairi's nobody, but came into being through Sora's body and soul when Sora used the keyblade on himself. Of course, i could be totally wrong.. but at least i'm not writing in all caps, right?
@GRAPALICI0US That might be true. You know what we all need to do? Look up the damn videos here on YouTube that specify this! I mean, who the hell really remembers the fine details of KH1? I know I don't; I only started playing the games for the Organization, although I grew to enjoy the series as a whole, xD!
Respond to this video... actually roxas is the nobody of sora they even say it ans remember when sora killed himself thats when ventus heart lefted and sora became a heartless and roxas was born and at the end roxas fuse with sora so it is his nobody. and roxas is an inverse if you played bbs you would know
YES!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!! IN YOUR FACE KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!!!!!!!!!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY!!!!! ROXAS IS THE NOBODY OF VEN!!!!! NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY!!!!!!! NAMINE IS THE NOBODY OF NO-ONE!!!!!!! AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!!! HE'S THE NOBODY OF LEA!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME pieman173 AND OTHERS TAKE DOWN THIS MURDEROUS MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!! >:O
@EvilCrazyChick your right about the fact that lea is axels nobody but roxas is acutally sora's nobody and namine is kairi's and sora's nobody (check wiki if you don't believe me) just wanted to get that across
I really hate how sad it is that NOBODY can understand Kingdom Hearts anymore! ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!!
YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING KINGDOM HEARTS HARDER TO UNDERSTAND THAN IT REALLY IS!!!!
Roxas is Sora's Nobody? Namine is Kairi's Nobody? Axel is Riku's Nobody? KingMickeyMouse, YOU ARE BATSHIT retarded, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you have brainwashed almost everyone now!!!!! Everyone thinks you're right....I can't believe it....
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, you are full of BATSHIT retardedness, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts. And even still you continue to get thumbs up!!!!! You have +961 on your comments now!!!!!
EVERYTHING you say is WRONG!!!!! You've just made up and created false sources.
Now, you continue to get supporters....STOP SUPPORTING KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!! >:O
@SnakeEyesLOL but....but...but.....fineeee. ): i knew he was evil! D:
hahaha jk i know, but one things for certain, axel can't be dead...if he wanted to be remembered by everyone and later said that made him immortal through memories. it is possible.
xion was made out of memories of kairi's from sore's heart. Axel can be made out of memories. and in the dream drop trailer he is in organization cloth calling himself lea....
I really hate how sad it is that a shit load of people can't understand Kingdom Hearts! ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!! Seriously people, you go on making weird theories and shit and it pisses me off.
YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING KINGDOM HEARTS HARDER TO UNDERSTAND THAN IT REALLY IS!!!!
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, YOU ARE BATSHIT retarded, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts.
Yea man he just does not fuckin believe it and it fucking annoys me while you can see it everywhere.
I'm not the geek who discusses like a nerd for a fucking geek game but if someone goes too far dumbly then I will discuss further about the reality. That's it.
@lilaisha225123 xion is a replica created from sora's leaked memories. Namine is Sora and Kairi's nobody because she shares sora's body and soul, and Kairi's likeness(appearance)
Are you people seriously having a fight over a game? Just chill, in the true spirit of Square Enix, things will be kept complicated,confusing and vague yet still interesting so that the story can continue on for our grandchildren to play the
forty-fifth KH game. Let's just relax and agree that we will be there, sitting next to our grandchildren, and enjoying it :) Less hate, more love!
hey lamebrains!why dont u all SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP ARGUING! seriously u people are acting like the kh series is real! calm DOWN! ur ruining the series just arguin about it! it may be the best game series EVER but u dont have to argue about it! we will find out if the rumors and theories are true or not soon but for now..............SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. As much as I love Xemnas, because he's pretty hot, I can't stand how low and slow his voice is. I mean, I have to fast forward because he takes so long to say everything. @.@ I bet even his voice actor was getting bored!
@KingMickeyMouseOoO King mickey you really need to stop making up rubbish. What sources? Wikipedia? That isn't a good source. Old Axel is dead okay! Roxas is the nobody of Roxas. When Sora stabbed himself it released the heart of Ventus, this is why he acts like he has feelings, because he is actually Ventus. Namine is the nobody of Kairi and Sora, when Sora stabbed himself Namine was created from his and Kairis hearts.
@KingMickeyMouseOoO There isn't a new axel. After the secret ending to birth by sleep, Axel, Roxas and Xion all said "Sora" because the next title after 3D should be Reconnect. It will involve Sora saving all the people who are connected to him. In Coded the kings letter is revealed and tells us that Sora needs to save them. And Xion didn't have a heart! She was a mere puppet made from the memories of Sora!
@KingMickeyMouseOoO Thirdly, the title 'Birth by Sleep' and DiZ's speech in the the secret ending tells us that everyone will be born from sleep. What this means is, all the people like Roxas, Axel, Xion, Namine, Terra, Aqua and Ventus will all be saved after being in a type of 'sleep'. They will be reborn again after Sora saves them. And wtf are you on about, Riku doesn't have a nobody! Where did you find that? Riku hasn't been in a situation where his nobody has been created! Now shut up!
@VizardMaskedSoldier Roxas is the nobody of Sora, in terms of memory. But he has the heart of Ventus. Ventus forgot all information from his past life when he put his own heart inside Sora, and when the nobody was created, instead of Soras heart releasing Ventus's was. In terms of nobodies, yeah he is kind of like Soras memories because all he has to remember of his formal self is, his old name, Sora and his old memories. But really, he is Ventus.
Like I said= he is a Nobody of Sora which was created when Sora became a heartless in Kingdom Hearts one, you can find that information everywhere, even DiZ aka Ansem the Wise confirms it.
But he has a heart which is unusual for a Nobody.
I say it again; he is a Somebody and he is the Nobody of Sora.
@VizardMaskedSoldier Yes in a way he is the nobody of Sora, but tell me this, how would Ansem the Wise know that he 'ISN'T' Sora. Ventus and Ansem had no meeting in BBS, it is only wise for him to think that it would be Soras. And as I said, the only reason he says it's Soras is because he had Soras memories which Sora needed to reawaken. In BBS Ventus asks Sora if he can stay within him, and Sora says yes, when Sora stabbed himself Ventus's heart released
@VizardMaskedSoldier lmao, look at Apprentice Xehanort for example, Xemnas and Ansem was created when he lost his heart. Apprentice Xehanort had the hearts of Terra (with Eraqus fused with his heart) and Xehanort. We don't know whose heart when to Ansem and Xemnas. Now back to Sora, when he stabbed himself, the heart of Ventus with the memories of Sora went to the nobody, and the heart of Sora and the memories of Sora went to the heartless.
@VizardMaskedSoldier Yes he is Ventus! That is why when he entered Castle Oblivion he pasted out because he has such a strong connection to Sora and Ventus, now be quiet!
@VizardMaskedSoldier Wow, people get so over-reactive. Sora's heart wasn't released, therefore no heartless or nobody was created. Sora kept his heart when he was a heartless, Ventus's heart went to Roxas. This isn't a theory, it is common sense. A heart must leave the body for a heartless and nobody to be created. Dude, I hate people like you, so arrogant and always think they are right, when you are wrong.
You seem one to talk. Look up at all the official sources: ROXAS IS SORAS NOBODY. DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING SOME FACTS????
Facts: Roxas is born when Sora became a heartless. Roxas has the heart of Ventus. But his SOUL is Sora's soul. Just because he has a heart does not make a person someone other, ignoring his soul.
You fail, Roxas is the nobody of Sora. PERIOD. Accept or get the fuck lost.
@VizardMaskedSoldier lmao, you are stupid for thinking this. Ventus's heart was released when Sora stabbed himself, Soras heart and soul went to the heartless, and Ventus's heart and soul went to Roxas. Is that really hard to understand? As I have said yes, in a way he is Soras nobody in terms of the memories Roxas kept from Sora. If Roxas had Soras soul how else could Sora have been alive? Think logical and get a good source, not wikipedia.
@VizardMaskedSoldier This is already confirmed vens hearts was released that's why roxas looks like ven. The Kingdom Hearts website? I believe you mean the KH2 one? Thy don't update it and tell you stuff when new games are released, yes at the time everybody thought it was Soras, but BBS is proof that Roxas is Ventus. Ventus puts his own heart inside Sora, and when Sora stabbed himself Ventus's was released. This is been comfirmed, and calm your horses son.
You call official sites a liar, you call wikipedia a liar without reason.
You don't have any evidence or proof at all. That's the most funny thing. Those are the biggest fails.
Secondly. Roxas is CREATED when Sora became a heartless. But he is born with a heart. That makes him a nobody with a heart. Got it? Seems you have problems comprehending.
If you didn't say 'now be quiet' to me, I should not have spoken like this to you, BRAINLESS NOOB.
@VizardMaskedSoldier Wikipedia is information put on by random people and cannot be fully trusted. You just proved what I said right, Roxas was created when Sora became a heartless, Roxas is special because he has a heart, Ventus's heart, which makes him Ventus.
Wikipedia does not have information from random people they are STRICTLY controlled.
Roxas is created when Sora became a heartless. So that makes him the nobody of Sora.
Since the souls decide who you are, Roxas is the soul of Sora. That means he is actually originally Sora. But he has a heart of Ventus, thats why he is an unusual NOBODY. Thats it.
Conclusion: Roxas is Sora's nobody with Ventus' heart.
@VizardMaskedSoldier You are starting to get irritating. Wikipedia is strictly controlled, I could put false information on it right now. Roxas doesn't have Soras soul, Sora has Soras soul! Roxas just has Ventus's heart, Ventus's heart was released when stabbed, and everything else went to the heartless. "Roxas is Sora's nobody with Ventus' heart." That makes him Ventus you idiot.
You are dumb and you are going to stay dumb. If you put false information on wikipedia it gets deleted instantly, i did it a few times and i got IP ban.
I have evidence that supports my FACTS like the official sources, failer.
Roxas: CREATED when Sora became a heartless. He has SORA'S soul and like the game 1000ds of times say: HE IS THE INCOMPLETE BEING OF SORA.
You know whats dumb? YOU THINK HE HIS VENTUS BECAUSE HE HAS HIS HEART.
@VizardMaskedSoldier And what source would that be, eh? Nobodies look identical to their Somebodies, Roxas has Ventus's heart which makes him Ventus, but with Soras memories. For Roxas to have Sora's soul, Sora would have not have been able to continue after stabbing himself, this is proven, it isn't a dumb theory, ask any other Kingdom Hearts fan, and they would tell you the same thing.
Ok you asked yourself, here are my official sources that will pown your dumb theories:
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania "Sora and Ventus's heart are linked... And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus."
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania "Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus's as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two."
@VizardMaskedSoldier It says "Sora and Ventus's hearts are linked... And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus." That doesn't say that Roxas is Sora, it just says that their hearts are linked, which made Roxas look like Ventus. That doesn't say that Roxas is Sora or Ventus.
@VizardMaskedSoldier "Naminé emerged as Kairi's Nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora." - Secret Ansem Report 10
@VizardMaskedSoldier No... You said that Roxas had Sora's soul, yet that quote says that "the body and soul necessary to exist as a nobody belonged to Sora." That means that means Namine has his soul. Unless Sora has two souls, your theory is pointless.
Even if you don't believe me you will believe your eyes. But wait... you don't even believe your eyes? There is no point in discussing it anymore. Everyone sees I proved with my OFFICIAL sources, not with such dumb theories ;) and I won.
Have fun with your utopia. Btw Roxas= Sora's nobody proven ;)
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, you are full of BATSHIT retardedness, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts.
You are only getting a speck of Kingdom Hearts(with Roxas being the Nobody of Sora, and Ven's heart lives within him)
Too many things you are WRONG on.
Have you even played the games? Because it sounds like you haven't, you've just read false sources.
Axel= Nobody of Lea; died; look in the room 'Proof of Existence'. His grave is red ~meaning dead~ like all the other members who died.
Roxas= Nobody of Sora and a Somebody with the heart of Ventus. Still lives within Sora.
Naminé= Nobody from the heart of Kairi and from the soul & body of Sora. She can manipulate Sora's memories because she is a part of Sora. Still lives within Kairi.
Official sources
And if you think; it's also logical... don't make up such dumb theories.
sorry to ruin it to ya' but (as unromantic as it is) feelings come from the brain not the heart !!! *censored* let axel be friends with who ever he wants *censored*
Okay to end all of these ridiculous theories, I will say what the truth is. Axel isn't Riku and Leas nobody, he is just Leas nobody. Master Xehanort and Terra fused. This created Terranort. Or Apprentice Xehanort. Anyway, the reason he is Apprentice Xehanort and not Apprentice Terra is because when they fused he forgot everything and only remember his name as Xehanort.
its so funny looking at all of this speculation, when in reality, no one actually knows. hell, i bet tetsuya nomura hasn't even quite figured it out yet.
why doesn't everyone just give it a rest and let the professionals do the story-writing? it's because of over-obsessed fans like the ones commenting on here that bad fanfics are born.
I don't get why make all this wuss while everything's clear:
Namine = Kairi
Roxas = Sora
Axel = Lea
Riku has NO NOBODY.
So KingMickeyMouse and KairiPapuFruit please stop it.
YES, Riku's heart was invaded with Darkness, but he DID NOT turn into a nobody. He remained himself. And Axel/Lea has NOTHING to do with this, so don't get him involved.
SURE; he resembles Riku a lot, but if you say that he is his nobody just because of that, it would technically be the same saying that Terra is his nobody.
At the beginning of Birth By Sleep, Ventus' heart connected with Sora's so it could become whole. At the end when Ventus loses his heart, his heart travelled to Sora and rested within Sora. When Sora was turned into a Heartless and Roxas was created, Ventus' heart migrated into Roxas. This is why Roxas looks like Ventus and has feelings.
Dude, please. I do not want to see spoilers, it is a theory, if I'm wrong well then I'm wrong ( I really don't care either way ), but for the sake of me and people that -haven't- played the game yet, don't give me spoilers!
ok im gonna clear things up 4 every1. naminé is kairi's nobody bc wen sora turned into a heartless, kairi's heart was inside his body. roxas is sora's nobody 4 obvious reasons if you played KH1. i dont know where the idea of axel being rikus nobody came from but hes not his. axel's original self is some guy named lea who is supposed 2 be from birth by sleep. now the reasons why roxas looks like ven from BBS will be explained wen BBS comes out.
No way, Axel is not Riku's Nobody. What a stupid rumor! This is getting on my nerves! Don't believe it, don't back it up! What the heck is going on, people? We don't need fools going around and messing up the timeline! I don't know about you all, but I enjoy the way KH is now. No more backing up KingMickMouseOoO! >:(
SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? REALLY, where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!! AND WHY IS EVERYONE SUPPORTING KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!?!? thats the dumbest theory ever!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY, NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY AND AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!! YOU FAILED KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!!!!!!! HOW DID YOU GET OVER +100 ON YOUR COMMENTS?! YOU BRAINWASHED INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT'S HOW!
@SnakeEyesLOL I completely agree with everything you said. But if roxas isnt sora's nobody then who's is he? Vens? Or is that BBS information that i should look up?
Roxas is NOT Sora's Nobody! Let me explain, when Vanitas takes over Ven in Birth By Sleep, Ven literally fell into the Darkness and he produced a Nobody. This was after of course, Ven became a Heartless for a few seconds. Then Aqua and Mickey free Ven from Vanitas's control. MUCH LATER , Ven's Nobody is found by the Organization and Xemnas believes that Ven's Nobody is Sora's Nobody and gives Ven's Nobody the name Roxas! Tetsuya Nomura stated this fact recently!!!!
@SnakeEyesLOL It doesn't make any sence. HOW IN MOTHER FUCKING HELL COULD AXEL BE RIKU'S NOBODY?!?!?!?! AXEL IS LEA'S NOBODY!!!!!!!! DOWN W/ KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!!!
@SnakeEyesLOL But Roxas IS Sora's nobody...that's a proven fact.....i'm not sure of Namine and Kairi....and Axel is DEFINATLY not Riku's nobody....He's Lea's
THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! SOMEBODY AGREES WITH ME!!!! I KNEW IT!!!! SORA, RIKU, AND KAIRI DON'T HAVE NOBODIES!!!! FINALLY!!!! IT'S OBVIOUS....KAIRI WAS A PRINCESS OF HEART (THEREFORE, NO HEARTLESS, NO NOBODY!!!) SORA'S HEART WAS PROTECTED AND VEN'S HEART BECAME A HEARTLESS....AND ANSEM JUST TOOK OVER RIKU.....THAT'S IT....FINALLY, SORA WAS A "KING" (NOT AFFECTED BY DARKNESS) KAIRI WAS A "QUEEN" (IMMUNE TO THE DARKNESS) AND RIKU WAS A "JACK" (TOO STRONG FOR THE DARKNESS!!!)
um....ROXAS IS SORA'S NOBODY TETSUYA SAID IT MILLIONS OF TIMES WHY ELSE WOULD HE "RETURN" TO SORA THE ONLY REASON HE LOOKS LIKE VEN IS BE CAUSE SORA CAME BACK TO LIFE SO HE TOOK ON A DIFFERENT APPEARANCE AND FOUDN VEN IN SORA'S HEART! NAMINE IS KAIRI'S NOBODY TETSUYA EVEN SAID IT WHY WOULD NAMINE "RETURN" TO KAIRI AND WHY DID THE LIGHT COME BETWEEN THEM WHEN THEY TOUCHED!!!! obviously you dont know what your talking about although your right on the account of Axel and Riku...
@KingMickeyMouseOoO wow thats the dumbest theory ever!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY, NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY AND AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!!..FAIL FAIL FAIL SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!! I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH PROOF YOU HAVE YOU FUCKING DAMN SHITTING BASTARDING ASSHOLE!!!! YOU WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG!!!! >:O
SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? AXEL DID NOT GO INTO RIKU!!! where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!!
it's been confirmed that the north american release of Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep is going to be better than the original japanese release. The NA release will have a new boss, new keyblades, more cutscenes, and more abilities! The japanese release that is out now doesn't have any of these!!! we americans FINALLY get our revenge!!! >=D
Master Xehanort possessed Terra's body while his heart was still in there. So Xehanort when became a nobody he also had Terra's memories because the body had two hearts(but not like sora). I think that before he became a nobody the hearts melded into one so that there's only one nobody.
Maybe that's why Xemnas went to the room of sleep so much. Being close to Aqua's armor, he himself wanted to awaken. Even though he isn't Terra's nobody, he has memories of Terra.
Boy, when Xemnas talks I just want to slap him over the head and scream, "Talk faster already!"
And did anyone else realize that while Saix was talking, he had changed from his normal calm position to a stressed hunched one, and looked regretful while saying Axel was weak?
Of course! Saïx's original, Isa, was Axel's original, Lea's best friend. It hurted Saïx because Axel didn't feel the same than Lea and that's why Saïx hated Roxas and Xion so much: they were taking Axel away from him.
Axel's dying caused him to react within Sora and fight him to test his worth. Til then he'd been inactive in Sora since he remerged in the beginning of the game, but watching his buddy die through Sora's eyes caused him to doubt Sora's worth.
Xemnas is thinking about how Axel will return a normal somebody, and eventually in his defeat he will too. We know cause in KH3D we see Axel and a few founding members alive. But he is no longer Axel, he is Lea. Just like Xemnas and Ansem SoD is really Xehanort. And roxas became Sora. Now they gotta fix the sleeping worlds, and maybe revive Saix.
subject18blueknight 1 month ago
:O he looked at number 13's seat
boiy132 1 month ago
Alright, let's think about this in a different perspective. Axel is NOT dead, but going to be reborn somewhere with a heart. It may not be possible, but it's a better way to think about it. ;_; Axel will live on Forever!
Specklebreeze27 1 month ago
@Specklebreeze27 yus!!!!! but i hear he comes back as lea, no tattoos, and its unknown if he still can control fire. ( by tattoos i mean the marks under his eeyes :O)
kkwawa1311 2 weeks ago
@kkwawa1311 Well, if Braig could do Xigbar's bullshit gravity-fucking techniques, presumably Lea should have Axel's pyrokinesis.
omgwtfpirates 1 week ago
@omgwtfpirates *O* - insert holy music here- yaaaay - randomly does the paffendrf-
kkwawa1311 1 week ago
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twistem18 1 month ago 2
@jugo5959 Yeah and his name is Norie fucking Wakamoto
kachetofes 2 months ago
Anyone notice that Xemnas voice is the same as Charles zi Britannia voice from Code Geass?
Jugo5959 2 months ago
@Neku628 wattabout Xion?
khdayskh1314 2 months ago
So, four people betrayed the Organization, Axel, Marluxia, Larxene and Roxas?
Neku628 3 months ago
@Neku628 and xion
axelkh2lover 2 months ago
Xemnas: Somethings are awakened through weakness. Perhaps, he was awakened too.
At the seats, between Marluxia and Larxene where Roxas sat.
Neku628 3 months ago
maybe im insane but was this before the end of the game cause i KNOW they all dissapeared,
DigimonTamerfreak 3 months ago
And perhaps he awakened too
ROXAS.
Trainman471 4 months ago
Ok just like fake riku in CoM Xion is a replica. Org XIII Capturing Namine to link Sora with Xion. So she is a puppet
Emilioanaire007 5 months ago
he said axel might of awakened when he touched soras heart which means axel might of returned to normal.
DCUnderdog3000 6 months ago
How is it that from Xemnas' point in the meeting room, it can always seem like he's directly across from whatever chair he wants?
Also, Saix, that was something dangerously close to emotion in your voice. -=wink=- Better not let Xem hear, or he'll get "jealous" of Lea ;D
RikkuFukaimori 7 months ago 2
This scene makes me sad. I mean the way Luxord, Xigbar & Siax were talking about Axel..Dx
In the end, it sounds like Xemnas is hinting that maybe Axel is wandering in the darkness trying to find his heart. "But some things awaken through weakness. You can see Axel touched Sora's heart. When he was with Sora, perhaps he awakened too." Axel was my favorite ): I hope hes in the thrid one somehow. >.<
Peachycreme1 7 months ago
@Peachycreme1 What Xemnas was talking about is the 'death' of Axel is so strong it had the impact of finally awakening Roxas within Sora. That's it.
reikodiana 6 months ago
Is it me or does Luxord sound like Jack Sparrow in his english voice?
suprtommyman 7 months ago
"he was weak." ah, you were weaker. XD
PleaseDontGoCryBaby 8 months ago
It would be great if SE could make org XIII come back somehow in a non cheesy way.
CRussell818 8 months ago
Xigbar sure knows how to break it hard. ". . .he just went and died."
stmb1 8 months ago
Saix's Japanese voice = fangirl squeal!
13CrystalHeart 9 months ago
Huh?Is it only me but it seems Saix is kinda depressed for Axel's "death".
flameofheaven15 9 months ago
@flameofheaven15 He sort of does...well, they were friends once, so it makes sense.
13CrystalHeart 9 months ago
@13CrystalHeart yea i know theyre friends when theyre still somebodies,but the saix i knew has nothing left of his heart at all,so it kinda weirds me out.
flameofheaven15 9 months ago
@flameofheaven15 I would think so. Since somewhere deep there (and I mean really, really deep down there) he still cares about Axel as his best friend. Or that's what I like to believe anyways.
Azurariolu96 8 months ago
@Azurariolu96 yea i would like to believe that to.im still curious how lea and isa got caught in xehanort's scheme and how they turned nobodies.and why are they tryng to enter the castle.argh still so many questions.i wish nomura will pay a little attention to the games again.i want more kh.i still dnt wnt kh3.because that would be the end!!
flameofheaven15 8 months ago
Kingdom Hearts 2 is the most awesome game ever
92af 9 months ago
I'm sorry but this scene is confusing for me. Axel sacrificed his life for Sora but he just sacrificed his life for nothing by getting close to Sora's heart. But Xemnas saying Lea might be revived. Please reply I just wanna get their conversation.
randomname2298 9 months ago
7 members of the organization didn't like this video
matter2553 9 months ago
Hearing Saix talk about Axel that way gets a whole new subtext after Days / BBS. More than just a small hint of bitterness at a lost friend.
HatredEternal 10 months ago
Xigbar´s voice sounds like Chibodee from G Gundam
darkvegetto2 10 months ago 2
Man..
Saix's voice sounds sexy in Japanese XD
MyImminentFate 1 year ago 46
@MyImminentFate i fully and completely agree with you
MoonFlowerDeathDKid 1 year ago
@MyImminentFate I KNOW RIGHT!?
Azurariolu96 1 year ago
toriluvscookies 1 year ago 8
@ Fluffymiyster Ventus had a fractured heart (as seen in birth by sleep) and sora completed it, making it whole. That's the real reason Roxas looks like Ventus
Rasendori06 1 year ago
With the exception of Saix I think I like their english voices better. Still, it's nice to see these scenes.
sonic25799 1 year ago 7
saix is so dumbass.....axel was his best friend when they were humans....
123MISTER129 1 year ago
oooh..so axel's death is what made roxas show up right before entering the castle...huh..i always thought it was cuz that was where he fought riku or something. how sweet... and ppl if ur going to argue, just play all the games and get ur facts straight.. ^_^ then everybody wins...or loses..hell, pick one.
DurrtyFilth 1 year ago
I am lost in your comment argue battle....@_@ why can't we all just get along?
........SORA is cool and so is Roxas! end of my story
SoraRue19 1 year ago
Actually, the way I've heard it, Sora just has Ventus' heart...but Sora would still be considered his own person despite this. When he gave up his heart to save Kairi, it created a Nobody. It's because he has Ven's heart that Roxas looks like him, but he came from Sora. I guess those fine details are what's up for debate here.
I really can't say much about the Namine/Kairi thing though, although if she came from no one (Namine), why join with Kairi then? And...heh, Axel as Riku's Nobody. Ha!
Fluffymiyster 1 year ago
@Fluffymiyster Doesn't it talk about Namine and Kairi in one of the secret Ansem's reports in KH II? I thought it said something about how Namine is Kairi's nobody, but came into being through Sora's body and soul when Sora used the keyblade on himself. Of course, i could be totally wrong.. but at least i'm not writing in all caps, right?
GRAPALICI0US 1 year ago
@GRAPALICI0US That might be true. You know what we all need to do? Look up the damn videos here on YouTube that specify this! I mean, who the hell really remembers the fine details of KH1? I know I don't; I only started playing the games for the Organization, although I grew to enjoy the series as a whole, xD!
Fluffymiyster 1 year ago
Respond to this video... actually roxas is the nobody of sora they even say it ans remember when sora killed himself thats when ventus heart lefted and sora became a heartless and roxas was born and at the end roxas fuse with sora so it is his nobody. and roxas is an inverse if you played bbs you would know
darkraioxxx 1 year ago
This is proving to be quite the entertainment
OtterfieldThoughts 1 year ago
@pieman173
YES!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!! IN YOUR FACE KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!!!!!!!!!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY!!!!! ROXAS IS THE NOBODY OF VEN!!!!! NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY!!!!!!! NAMINE IS THE NOBODY OF NO-ONE!!!!!!! AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!!! HE'S THE NOBODY OF LEA!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME pieman173 AND OTHERS TAKE DOWN THIS MURDEROUS MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!! >:O
EvilCrazyChick 1 year ago
@EvilCrazyChick your right about the fact that lea is axels nobody but roxas is acutally sora's nobody and namine is kairi's and sora's nobody (check wiki if you don't believe me) just wanted to get that across
secretembers 1 year ago
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I really hate how sad it is that NOBODY can understand Kingdom Hearts anymore! ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!!
YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING KINGDOM HEARTS HARDER TO UNDERSTAND THAN IT REALLY IS!!!!
Roxas is Sora's Nobody? Namine is Kairi's Nobody? Axel is Riku's Nobody? KingMickeyMouse, YOU ARE BATSHIT retarded, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you have brainwashed almost everyone now!!!!! Everyone thinks you're right....I can't believe it....
EvilCrazyChick 1 year ago
@KingMickeyMouseOoO
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, you are full of BATSHIT retardedness, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts. And even still you continue to get thumbs up!!!!! You have +961 on your comments now!!!!!
EVERYTHING you say is WRONG!!!!! You've just made up and created false sources.
Now, you continue to get supporters....STOP SUPPORTING KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!! >:O
SnakeEyesLOL 1 year ago 8
@SnakeEyesLOL but....but...but.....fineeee. ): i knew he was evil! D:
hahaha jk i know, but one things for certain, axel can't be dead...if he wanted to be remembered by everyone and later said that made him immortal through memories. it is possible.
xion was made out of memories of kairi's from sore's heart. Axel can be made out of memories. and in the dream drop trailer he is in organization cloth calling himself lea....
BTW love ur user name, snake eyes rocks! :D
SumJ23 1 month ago
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I really hate how sad it is that a shit load of people can't understand Kingdom Hearts! ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!! Seriously people, you go on making weird theories and shit and it pisses me off.
YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING KINGDOM HEARTS HARDER TO UNDERSTAND THAN IT REALLY IS!!!!
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, YOU ARE BATSHIT retarded, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts.
SolitaryWinterStar 1 year ago
you know what the problem with this entire thread is? everybody thinks theyre right. and everybody thinks everyone else is wrong.
randomxpersonx4 1 year ago
hahahaha its funny watching you guys fight *giggle* hehehe :)
5647549ZukoLuv852367 1 year ago
@5647549ZukoLuv852367 Agreed xD
KidOfGenius 1 year ago
Oh for Gods sake.
Roxas= Sora's Nobody.
Namine=Kairi's nobody.
IT'S NOT
THAT
FUCKING
HARD.
AnAverageGom 1 year ago 85
Yea man he just does not fuckin believe it and it fucking annoys me while you can see it everywhere.
I'm not the geek who discusses like a nerd for a fucking geek game but if someone goes too far dumbly then I will discuss further about the reality. That's it.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@AnAverageGom KH is Disney's LOST.
Of course it's hard for some people :p
HikaruIrving 1 year ago
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ShigekiHizashi 8 months ago
@AnAverageGom FUCK YOU GOT IT WRONG roxas=soras nobody namine=a part of sora DUR
djmack08 7 months ago
@djmack08 XION IS A PART OF SORA :\,
namine is kairi nobody
lilaisha225123 6 months ago
@lilaisha225123 xion is a replica created from sora's leaked memories. Namine is Sora and Kairi's nobody because she shares sora's body and soul, and Kairi's likeness(appearance)
venomblade891 6 months ago
@venomblade891 thank !!! you!!!!
lilaisha225123 5 months ago
Are you people seriously having a fight over a game? Just chill, in the true spirit of Square Enix, things will be kept complicated,confusing and vague yet still interesting so that the story can continue on for our grandchildren to play the
forty-fifth KH game. Let's just relax and agree that we will be there, sitting next to our grandchildren, and enjoying it :) Less hate, more love!
gaymuraki 1 year ago
luxord is my favorite member
JayFang777 1 year ago 6
hey lamebrains!why dont u all SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP ARGUING! seriously u people are acting like the kh series is real! calm DOWN! ur ruining the series just arguin about it! it may be the best game series EVER but u dont have to argue about it! we will find out if the rumors and theories are true or not soon but for now..............SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
steelfire001 1 year ago
Wow. As much as I love Xemnas, because he's pretty hot, I can't stand how low and slow his voice is. I mean, I have to fast forward because he takes so long to say everything. @.@ I bet even his voice actor was getting bored!
JansenFriedh 1 year ago
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KingMickeyMouseOoO is the biggest dickhead i ever saw...
there is no old or new axel like >>I<<< wrote down, Axel is DEAD!!!
Don't steal my comments fucin noob!!!
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
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VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
Old Axel= Nobody of Lea; died; look in the room 'Proof of Existence'. His grave is red ~meaning dead~ like all the other members who died.
Roxas= Nobody of Sora with Ventus's Heart. Still lives within Sora.
Naminé= Nobody of Kairi with Xion's Heart and still lives within Kairi.
New Axel= Nobody of Riku with Lea's Heart and still lives within Riku.
Official sources
And if you think; it's also logical... don't make up such dumb theories.
KingMickeyMouseOoO 1 year ago
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@KingMickeyMouseOoO King mickey you really need to stop making up rubbish. What sources? Wikipedia? That isn't a good source. Old Axel is dead okay! Roxas is the nobody of Roxas. When Sora stabbed himself it released the heart of Ventus, this is why he acts like he has feelings, because he is actually Ventus. Namine is the nobody of Kairi and Sora, when Sora stabbed himself Namine was created from his and Kairis hearts.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
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@KingMickeyMouseOoO There isn't a new axel. After the secret ending to birth by sleep, Axel, Roxas and Xion all said "Sora" because the next title after 3D should be Reconnect. It will involve Sora saving all the people who are connected to him. In Coded the kings letter is revealed and tells us that Sora needs to save them. And Xion didn't have a heart! She was a mere puppet made from the memories of Sora!
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
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@KingMickeyMouseOoO Thirdly, the title 'Birth by Sleep' and DiZ's speech in the the secret ending tells us that everyone will be born from sleep. What this means is, all the people like Roxas, Axel, Xion, Namine, Terra, Aqua and Ventus will all be saved after being in a type of 'sleep'. They will be reborn again after Sora saves them. And wtf are you on about, Riku doesn't have a nobody! Where did you find that? Riku hasn't been in a situation where his nobody has been created! Now shut up!
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
@KingMickeyMouseOoO I meant to say Roxas is the nobody of Ventus
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Like I said, not mickey Roxas is the nobody of Sora, but he has a heart which is anormal, that makes him a Somebody as the Nobody of Sora.
He is not a Nobody personal, but he is Sora's Nobody.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Roxas is the nobody of Sora, in terms of memory. But he has the heart of Ventus. Ventus forgot all information from his past life when he put his own heart inside Sora, and when the nobody was created, instead of Soras heart releasing Ventus's was. In terms of nobodies, yeah he is kind of like Soras memories because all he has to remember of his formal self is, his old name, Sora and his old memories. But really, he is Ventus.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Like I said= he is a Nobody of Sora which was created when Sora became a heartless in Kingdom Hearts one, you can find that information everywhere, even DiZ aka Ansem the Wise confirms it.
But he has a heart which is unusual for a Nobody.
I say it again; he is a Somebody and he is the Nobody of Sora.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Yes in a way he is the nobody of Sora, but tell me this, how would Ansem the Wise know that he 'ISN'T' Sora. Ventus and Ansem had no meeting in BBS, it is only wise for him to think that it would be Soras. And as I said, the only reason he says it's Soras is because he had Soras memories which Sora needed to reawaken. In BBS Ventus asks Sora if he can stay within him, and Sora says yes, when Sora stabbed himself Ventus's heart released
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Those are all theories. I know everyone wants Roxas to be an original person but he is not. He is the nobody of Sora.
Proof= a Nobody is created if one becomes a Heartless.
The proof is Roxas.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier lmao, look at Apprentice Xehanort for example, Xemnas and Ansem was created when he lost his heart. Apprentice Xehanort had the hearts of Terra (with Eraqus fused with his heart) and Xehanort. We don't know whose heart when to Ansem and Xemnas. Now back to Sora, when he stabbed himself, the heart of Ventus with the memories of Sora went to the nobody, and the heart of Sora and the memories of Sora went to the heartless.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Thats what I say from the beginning. He is the Nobody of Sora. But the unusual is that he has a heart, that makes him a Somebody.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Yes, but when I said that Roxas is actually Ventus, but with the memories of Sora you said I was wrong.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
I never accepted Roxas is Ventus....
Roxas is not Ventus, he just has a resemblance because he has the heart of him.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Yes he is Ventus! That is why when he entered Castle Oblivion he pasted out because he has such a strong connection to Sora and Ventus, now be quiet!
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You dumb fuck. Get the fuck lost with your noob tehories to hope that Roxas is not a nobody.
IF ROXAS IS VENTUS, WHERE IS THE REAL NOBODY OF SORA???? YOU FAIL WITH YOUR DUMB NOOB THEORIES.
ROXAS IS THE NOBODY OF SORA. PERIOD.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Wow, people get so over-reactive. Sora's heart wasn't released, therefore no heartless or nobody was created. Sora kept his heart when he was a heartless, Ventus's heart went to Roxas. This isn't a theory, it is common sense. A heart must leave the body for a heartless and nobody to be created. Dude, I hate people like you, so arrogant and always think they are right, when you are wrong.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You seem one to talk. Look up at all the official sources: ROXAS IS SORAS NOBODY. DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING SOME FACTS????
Facts: Roxas is born when Sora became a heartless. Roxas has the heart of Ventus. But his SOUL is Sora's soul. Just because he has a heart does not make a person someone other, ignoring his soul.
You fail, Roxas is the nobody of Sora. PERIOD. Accept or get the fuck lost.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier lmao, you are stupid for thinking this. Ventus's heart was released when Sora stabbed himself, Soras heart and soul went to the heartless, and Ventus's heart and soul went to Roxas. Is that really hard to understand? As I have said yes, in a way he is Soras nobody in terms of the memories Roxas kept from Sora. If Roxas had Soras soul how else could Sora have been alive? Think logical and get a good source, not wikipedia.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
My source is the official site of Kingdom Hearts NOOB failer.
I told you, you fail, Roxas is Sora's nobody= YOU FAIL.
Your 'theories'= FAILED
You can't go against a fact from the creators= YOU FAIL
Roxas is not Ventus. PERIOD.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier This is already confirmed vens hearts was released that's why roxas looks like ven. The Kingdom Hearts website? I believe you mean the KH2 one? Thy don't update it and tell you stuff when new games are released, yes at the time everybody thought it was Soras, but BBS is proof that Roxas is Ventus. Ventus puts his own heart inside Sora, and when Sora stabbed himself Ventus's was released. This is been comfirmed, and calm your horses son.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You call official sites a liar, you call wikipedia a liar without reason.
You don't have any evidence or proof at all. That's the most funny thing. Those are the biggest fails.
Secondly. Roxas is CREATED when Sora became a heartless. But he is born with a heart. That makes him a nobody with a heart. Got it? Seems you have problems comprehending.
If you didn't say 'now be quiet' to me, I should not have spoken like this to you, BRAINLESS NOOB.
No matter what, your theory fails big time
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Wikipedia is information put on by random people and cannot be fully trusted. You just proved what I said right, Roxas was created when Sora became a heartless, Roxas is special because he has a heart, Ventus's heart, which makes him Ventus.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Wikipedia does not have information from random people they are STRICTLY controlled.
Roxas is created when Sora became a heartless. So that makes him the nobody of Sora.
Since the souls decide who you are, Roxas is the soul of Sora. That means he is actually originally Sora. But he has a heart of Ventus, thats why he is an unusual NOBODY. Thats it.
Conclusion: Roxas is Sora's nobody with Ventus' heart.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier You are starting to get irritating. Wikipedia is strictly controlled, I could put false information on it right now. Roxas doesn't have Soras soul, Sora has Soras soul! Roxas just has Ventus's heart, Ventus's heart was released when stabbed, and everything else went to the heartless. "Roxas is Sora's nobody with Ventus' heart." That makes him Ventus you idiot.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You are dumb and you are going to stay dumb. If you put false information on wikipedia it gets deleted instantly, i did it a few times and i got IP ban.
I have evidence that supports my FACTS like the official sources, failer.
Roxas: CREATED when Sora became a heartless. He has SORA'S soul and like the game 1000ds of times say: HE IS THE INCOMPLETE BEING OF SORA.
You know whats dumb? YOU THINK HE HIS VENTUS BECAUSE HE HAS HIS HEART.
So funny and dumb. You fail.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier And what source would that be, eh? Nobodies look identical to their Somebodies, Roxas has Ventus's heart which makes him Ventus, but with Soras memories. For Roxas to have Sora's soul, Sora would have not have been able to continue after stabbing himself, this is proven, it isn't a dumb theory, ask any other Kingdom Hearts fan, and they would tell you the same thing.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Ok you asked yourself, here are my official sources that will pown your dumb theories:
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania "Sora and Ventus's heart are linked... And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus."
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania "Sora can wield two Keyblades at once because he has Ventus's as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two."
Accept it now, you are powned.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier Where in that does it say that Roxas is Sora's Nobody?
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You must be blind asking that.
Read the first sentence of the source.
It tells exactly what I told you. Have fun.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier It says "Sora and Ventus's hearts are linked... And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus." That doesn't say that Roxas is Sora, it just says that their hearts are linked, which made Roxas look like Ventus. That doesn't say that Roxas is Sora or Ventus.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
You really are blind aren't you.
ROXAS, WHO IS A PART OF SORA in the first
and AS ROXAS IS A PART OF SORA, HE ALSO CAN USE TWO.
Man, just accept it it clearly states EVERYWHERE. Don't try to make up more theories out of nowhere, you dont even have evidence.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier "Naminé emerged as Kairi's Nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora." - Secret Ansem Report 10
eat it :)
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
Ehm are you dumb? XD I have proven Roxas is Soras nobody and I already that Namine is the nobody of Sora AND Kairi, read my posts man, JUST READ IT.
And now eat it, with double pownage. ;)
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier No... You said that Roxas had Sora's soul, yet that quote says that "the body and soul necessary to exist as a nobody belonged to Sora." That means that means Namine has his soul. Unless Sora has two souls, your theory is pointless.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
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Even if you don't believe me you will believe your eyes. But wait... you don't even believe your eyes? There is no point in discussing it anymore. Everyone sees I proved with my OFFICIAL sources, not with such dumb theories ;) and I won.
Have fun with your utopia. Btw Roxas= Sora's nobody proven ;)
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
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@KingMickeyMouseOoO
Lea's heart lives in Riku? Really? Fuck, really??? KingMickey, you are full of BATSHIT retardedness, I'm sorry. I usually don't say that to people, but just WOW, you really don't get a lot of things in Kingdom Hearts.
You are only getting a speck of Kingdom Hearts(with Roxas being the Nobody of Sora, and Ven's heart lives within him)
Too many things you are WRONG on.
Have you even played the games? Because it sounds like you haven't, you've just read false sources.
SolitaryWinterStar 1 year ago
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Axel= Nobody of Lea; died; look in the room 'Proof of Existence'. His grave is red ~meaning dead~ like all the other members who died.
Roxas= Nobody of Sora and a Somebody with the heart of Ventus. Still lives within Sora.
Naminé= Nobody from the heart of Kairi and from the soul & body of Sora. She can manipulate Sora's memories because she is a part of Sora. Still lives within Kairi.
Official sources
And if you think; it's also logical... don't make up such dumb theories.
VizardMaskedSoldier 1 year ago
sorry to ruin it to ya' but (as unromantic as it is) feelings come from the brain not the heart !!! *censored* let axel be friends with who ever he wants *censored*
mugiwarachanX3 1 year ago
SPOILERS!
Okay to end all of these ridiculous theories, I will say what the truth is. Axel isn't Riku and Leas nobody, he is just Leas nobody. Master Xehanort and Terra fused. This created Terranort. Or Apprentice Xehanort. Anyway, the reason he is Apprentice Xehanort and not Apprentice Terra is because when they fused he forgot everything and only remember his name as Xehanort.
P0tatoPotato 1 year ago
its so funny looking at all of this speculation, when in reality, no one actually knows. hell, i bet tetsuya nomura hasn't even quite figured it out yet.
why doesn't everyone just give it a rest and let the professionals do the story-writing? it's because of over-obsessed fans like the ones commenting on here that bad fanfics are born.
yes1no2maybe3so4 1 year ago
as soon as i think i understand kingdom hearts the info confuses me more than it ansers questions
does anybody eles agree?
TheFun41 1 year ago
@TheFun41
Yes, for example, first you think...."YEAH!!! Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Namine is Kairi's Nobody and Axel is Riku's Nobody!!!!"
Then....all of a sudden....you see more info and you're like "NOOO!!!! Axel is NOT Riku's Nobody...WAAHH!!!!!!"
Then you see more info and you're like..."AAAAHHHHH!!!!! NO WAY!!!!! Namine is NOT Kairi's Nobody.....WHY!?!?!?"
Then finally....you read even more info...."WTF!?!? ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY?! HE'S VEN'S NOBODY NOW!? THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS!"
ToySecrets 1 year ago
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I don't get why make all this wuss while everything's clear:
Namine = Kairi
Roxas = Sora
Axel = Lea
Riku has NO NOBODY.
So KingMickeyMouse and KairiPapuFruit please stop it.
YES, Riku's heart was invaded with Darkness, but he DID NOT turn into a nobody. He remained himself. And Axel/Lea has NOTHING to do with this, so don't get him involved.
SURE; he resembles Riku a lot, but if you say that he is his nobody just because of that, it would technically be the same saying that Terra is his nobody.
YoshiLand64 1 year ago
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@YoshiLand64 you are absolutely right thank you for pointing this out
nacto0 1 year ago
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@nacto0
No prob ^^
YoshiLand64 1 year ago
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You're all freakin' wrong.
At the beginning of Birth By Sleep, Ventus' heart connected with Sora's so it could become whole. At the end when Ventus loses his heart, his heart travelled to Sora and rested within Sora. When Sora was turned into a Heartless and Roxas was created, Ventus' heart migrated into Roxas. This is why Roxas looks like Ventus and has feelings.
NeoCyberKing1993 1 year ago
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biscuitsification 1 year ago
@biscuitsification
Dude, please. I do not want to see spoilers, it is a theory, if I'm wrong well then I'm wrong ( I really don't care either way ), but for the sake of me and people that -haven't- played the game yet, don't give me spoilers!
Kadiezi 1 year ago
Is this sence in the english version 2?
Yukisan11 1 year ago
@Yukisan11 no, not at all i'm afraid. dis jus goes 2 show u how the japanese fuck over us w/ der exclusive-ness
alpha92613 1 year ago
ok im gonna clear things up 4 every1. naminé is kairi's nobody bc wen sora turned into a heartless, kairi's heart was inside his body. roxas is sora's nobody 4 obvious reasons if you played KH1. i dont know where the idea of axel being rikus nobody came from but hes not his. axel's original self is some guy named lea who is supposed 2 be from birth by sleep. now the reasons why roxas looks like ven from BBS will be explained wen BBS comes out.
ratchetfuture1 1 year ago
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KMM is SO wrong... Axel couldn't be Riku's Nobody.
DrZillaboy1 1 year ago
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No way, Axel is not Riku's Nobody. What a stupid rumor! This is getting on my nerves! Don't believe it, don't back it up! What the heck is going on, people? We don't need fools going around and messing up the timeline! I don't know about you all, but I enjoy the way KH is now. No more backing up KingMickMouseOoO! >:(
Moonheart788 1 year ago
dude zemnes voice is like so old or something kinda creepy XD
SnowLeopardLefa 1 year ago
SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? REALLY, where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!! AND WHY IS EVERYONE SUPPORTING KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!?!? thats the dumbest theory ever!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY, NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY AND AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!! YOU FAILED KINGMICKEYMOUSEOoO!!!!!!! HOW DID YOU GET OVER +100 ON YOUR COMMENTS?! YOU BRAINWASHED INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT'S HOW!
SnakeEyesLOL 1 year ago 41
@SnakeEyesLOL I completely agree with everything you said. But if roxas isnt sora's nobody then who's is he? Vens? Or is that BBS information that i should look up?
rasengan4311 1 year ago
@rasengan4311
Roxas is NOT Sora's Nobody! Let me explain, when Vanitas takes over Ven in Birth By Sleep, Ven literally fell into the Darkness and he produced a Nobody. This was after of course, Ven became a Heartless for a few seconds. Then Aqua and Mickey free Ven from Vanitas's control. MUCH LATER , Ven's Nobody is found by the Organization and Xemnas believes that Ven's Nobody is Sora's Nobody and gives Ven's Nobody the name Roxas! Tetsuya Nomura stated this fact recently!!!!
SnakeEyesLOL 1 year ago
@SnakeEyesLOL It doesn't make any sence. HOW IN MOTHER FUCKING HELL COULD AXEL BE RIKU'S NOBODY?!?!?!?! AXEL IS LEA'S NOBODY!!!!!!!! DOWN W/ KINGMICKEYMOUSE!!!!!!!
Yukisan11 1 year ago
@SnakeEyesLOL But Roxas IS Sora's nobody...that's a proven fact.....i'm not sure of Namine and Kairi....and Axel is DEFINATLY not Riku's nobody....He's Lea's
zamarokurama 1 year ago
@zamarokurama Never mind i take that back....Roxas isn't Sora's Nobody, I read a comment that made it all clear :D
zamarokurama 1 year ago 2
@SnakeEyesLOL THANK YOU!!!!! FINALLY!!! someone FINALLY says it!
Thank you, too, EvilCrazyChick! you two know your K.H.!
AboveOurInfluence 1 year ago
@SnakeEyesLOL
THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! SOMEBODY AGREES WITH ME!!!! I KNEW IT!!!! SORA, RIKU, AND KAIRI DON'T HAVE NOBODIES!!!! FINALLY!!!! IT'S OBVIOUS....KAIRI WAS A PRINCESS OF HEART (THEREFORE, NO HEARTLESS, NO NOBODY!!!) SORA'S HEART WAS PROTECTED AND VEN'S HEART BECAME A HEARTLESS....AND ANSEM JUST TOOK OVER RIKU.....THAT'S IT....FINALLY, SORA WAS A "KING" (NOT AFFECTED BY DARKNESS) KAIRI WAS A "QUEEN" (IMMUNE TO THE DARKNESS) AND RIKU WAS A "JACK" (TOO STRONG FOR THE DARKNESS!!!)
MrsCSUCI 1 year ago
@SnakeEyesLOL you get to know that Namine is kairis nobody and that Roxas is somewhat a part of sora but axels somebody is a guy named Lea
Vergilthenew 1 year ago
@SnakeEyesLOL
um....ROXAS IS SORA'S NOBODY TETSUYA SAID IT MILLIONS OF TIMES WHY ELSE WOULD HE "RETURN" TO SORA THE ONLY REASON HE LOOKS LIKE VEN IS BE CAUSE SORA CAME BACK TO LIFE SO HE TOOK ON A DIFFERENT APPEARANCE AND FOUDN VEN IN SORA'S HEART! NAMINE IS KAIRI'S NOBODY TETSUYA EVEN SAID IT WHY WOULD NAMINE "RETURN" TO KAIRI AND WHY DID THE LIGHT COME BETWEEN THEM WHEN THEY TOUCHED!!!! obviously you dont know what your talking about although your right on the account of Axel and Riku...
kyle9772 1 year ago
@kyle9772 Roxas takes the form of Ven cuz he has Ven's heart when he became a Nobody
UltimaWeapon786 1 year ago
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@KingMickeyMouseOoO wow thats the dumbest theory ever!!! ROXAS IS NOT SORA'S NOBODY, NAMINE IS NOT KAIRI'S NOBODY AND AXEL IS NOT RIKU'S NOBODY!!!!..FAIL FAIL FAIL SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!! I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH PROOF YOU HAVE YOU FUCKING DAMN SHITTING BASTARDING ASSHOLE!!!! YOU WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG!!!! >:O
EvilCrazyChick 1 year ago
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SERIOUSLY..are people that are commenting getting dumber over the years?? AXEL DID NOT GO INTO RIKU!!! where the hell are u guys getting this false info? quit spreading shitty rumors that maker no sense!!!
dreadlife 1 year ago
Saix's voice is awesome
TheMeepmeepmeep 1 year ago
lol
Xigbar=Jiraiya's voice actor
Luxord=giroro's voice actor
Xehanort= the voice actor has too many roles to name like overlord zenon(disgaea 2) or the narrator for hayate the combat butler.
DBZSPEED 1 year ago
it's been confirmed that the north american release of Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep is going to be better than the original japanese release. The NA release will have a new boss, new keyblades, more cutscenes, and more abilities! The japanese release that is out now doesn't have any of these!!! we americans FINALLY get our revenge!!! >=D
GlobalMetroFilmsTV 1 year ago 5
Anybody notice that Luxord has the same voice actor as Giroro from Keroro Gunso?
CoredovaNebula 1 year ago
XD... Xigbar: Seems we're getting a lot more free seats
TheRetaliation18 1 year ago
hay when xemnas said perhaps he awakend too do you think he is refuring to ven?
Gecko55561 1 year ago
@Gecko55561 i guess because he was looking at roxas's seat
rasengan4311 1 year ago
@rasengan4311 He was how do you know such things?
Gecko55561 1 year ago
@Gecko55561 If you've seen or played 358/2 Days, that is Roxas's chair.
rasengan4311 1 year ago
axel didnt truely die
OreoCookie95 1 year ago
I love Japanese language
92af 1 year ago
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axel and saix are brothers
PockleB4 1 year ago
@PockleB4
explain how they are brothers?
MiraiMeiux 1 year ago
@PockleB4 Nahhhh....They were just good friends.
Tsubakiification 1 year ago
Master Xehanort possessed Terra's body while his heart was still in there. So Xehanort when became a nobody he also had Terra's memories because the body had two hearts(but not like sora). I think that before he became a nobody the hearts melded into one so that there's only one nobody.
jfunk1994 2 years ago
Maybe that's why Xemnas went to the room of sleep so much. Being close to Aqua's armor, he himself wanted to awaken. Even though he isn't Terra's nobody, he has memories of Terra.
chaoticlifeofmine 2 years ago 5
Boy, when Xemnas talks I just want to slap him over the head and scream, "Talk faster already!"
And did anyone else realize that while Saix was talking, he had changed from his normal calm position to a stressed hunched one, and looked regretful while saying Axel was weak?
LinleyTheBestMan 2 years ago 4
Of course! Saïx's original, Isa, was Axel's original, Lea's best friend. It hurted Saïx because Axel didn't feel the same than Lea and that's why Saïx hated Roxas and Xion so much: they were taking Axel away from him.
TahaneyFlamme 2 years ago 7
@TahaneyFlamme
Er, yeah. I know. I already knew all that. XD I was just wondering if anyone else happened to notice.
LinleyTheBestMan 2 years ago
@TahaneyFlamme Saix hated Roxas more because he remembered Ventus and how close he and Lea had gotten after their spar.
ArcanumOath 1 year ago
@ArcanumOath
Indeed, true enough xD
TahaneyFlamme 1 year ago
Ah, yes, usually Saix sits with his legs crossed. (bad english, sorry..)
And you're totally right: Xemnas, TALK FASTER, YOU STUPID MANSEX!
iSunaMatic 2 years ago
ok, uh, just a question, when roxas fought with Sora, does that mean roxas was once again freed? or some other weird memory shit? haha
thewarroirtaco 2 years ago
@thewarroirtaco
Axel's dying caused him to react within Sora and fight him to test his worth. Til then he'd been inactive in Sora since he remerged in the beginning of the game, but watching his buddy die through Sora's eyes caused him to doubt Sora's worth.
bob1986 2 years ago 3
obviously a cheater :D
PeteThePlayer 2 years ago