Dave i think windo is correct. unless you have a treaty then you are a citizen which only has granted privilages & benefits. the only persons that i am aware of that have a treaty with the u.s. govt. are the Moorish Americans, which are the original inhabitants of this land, see the treaty of peace & friendship 1787, which is the oldest treaty of that of gov. has.
@3EIHCIR you r correct about the moorish americans, but even under the 14th amendment & the bill of rights a person has rights. a corporation cant sui a human, & vis versa. the key is to present yourself as a human being and the object of your claim
@muptahu24 you have to pay for property to have a right to it. Debt notes aren't payment. Debt notes transfer interest to the creditor. So you buy with debt notes, the issuer of the debt notes actually owns the rights to the property. You own nothing. They just let you use it and tax you on the use.
@3EIHCIR You're only a citizen if u check the box...It's something you have to claim it's not automatic...They can't FORCE you to claim it. "They" are just a corporation, like McDs...It's all based on voluntary availment...
No, Dave we are NOT We the People of the United States. That is a private entity which you're not a party. If you aren't party to the compact or Posterity thereof you have no standing to state a claim. This system, like it or not. Is working exactly as it is suppose to & you have no right to change it. Therefore, you will not find justice at the end of this tunnel.
A4V is a concept, not a service. If it were it's still only for those with standing. So when did you become party to the treaties?
Also the government is fiction in and of itself and is only recognized by those who choose to play the game. Just as the strawman is a creation of man who is accepted as real, so is the government.
I see two issues with your example. 1. We the people and citizen are not the same. The We the People are the sovereign of the United States of America Government. 2. The citizen is subject to We the People and to the statues & codes of the state. Neither the people or the citizens can actually own any realestate here on this continent because this land is not the property of the U.S.A. government. The land is owned by the indigenious & aboriginal peoples. You must study int'l law.
where the hell do I get 1099 OID forms. I go to the IRS site but only get people talking and no site to download forms.
lobo63mt 2 months ago
Dave, i agree but i still don`t believe it will get you an allodial land patent / title.
3EIHCIR 1 year ago
Dave i think windo is correct. unless you have a treaty then you are a citizen which only has granted privilages & benefits. the only persons that i am aware of that have a treaty with the u.s. govt. are the Moorish Americans, which are the original inhabitants of this land, see the treaty of peace & friendship 1787, which is the oldest treaty of that of gov. has.
3EIHCIR 1 year ago
@3EIHCIR Well, good thing I know how to send a commercial presentment so I can make my own treaties!
VerifiedNews 1 year ago
@3EIHCIR you r correct about the moorish americans, but even under the 14th amendment & the bill of rights a person has rights. a corporation cant sui a human, & vis versa. the key is to present yourself as a human being and the object of your claim
muptahu24 1 month ago
@muptahu24 you have to pay for property to have a right to it. Debt notes aren't payment. Debt notes transfer interest to the creditor. So you buy with debt notes, the issuer of the debt notes actually owns the rights to the property. You own nothing. They just let you use it and tax you on the use.
VerifiedNews 1 month ago
@3EIHCIR You're only a citizen if u check the box...It's something you have to claim it's not automatic...They can't FORCE you to claim it. "They" are just a corporation, like McDs...It's all based on voluntary availment...
VerifiedNews 1 month ago
No, Dave we are NOT We the People of the United States. That is a private entity which you're not a party. If you aren't party to the compact or Posterity thereof you have no standing to state a claim. This system, like it or not. Is working exactly as it is suppose to & you have no right to change it. Therefore, you will not find justice at the end of this tunnel.
A4V is a concept, not a service. If it were it's still only for those with standing. So when did you become party to the treaties?
wind0wninja 1 year ago
@wind0wninja See, you're still talking about the written word. I'm talking about math. There's abig difference. MAth isn't subjective. Words are.
VerifiedNews 1 year ago
@VerifiedNews Dude that was simple a word problem as it gets. You're the one that wants to play semantics with the State here.
You didn't create the thing.
You don't control the thing.
You're not party to any of the compacts in control.
Nor, Posterity thereof
When you add up a bunch of zeros, at the end, you still have zero.
And then you're gonna file your paperwork up under their law forum? Sorry but none of that stuff is sufficient to vary the agreement.
wind0wninja 1 year ago
@VerifiedNews That was simple a word problem as it gets. You're the one that wants to play semantics with the State here.
You didn't create the thing.
You don't control the thing.
You're not party to any of the compacts in control.
Nor, Posterity thereof
When you add up a bunch of zeros, at the end, you still have zero.
And then you're gonna file your paperwork up under their law forum? Really?
Sorry, but none of this stuff is sufficient to 'vary the agreement'.
wind0wninja 1 year ago
Dave,
Also the government is fiction in and of itself and is only recognized by those who choose to play the game. Just as the strawman is a creation of man who is accepted as real, so is the government.
3EIHCIR 1 year ago
@3EIHCIR Then forget A4V it's a sevice of this society.
VerifiedNews 1 year ago
@3EIHCIR lol I love games. I'm cracking this code.
VerifiedNews 1 year ago
Hello Dave,
I see two issues with your example. 1. We the people and citizen are not the same. The We the People are the sovereign of the United States of America Government. 2. The citizen is subject to We the People and to the statues & codes of the state. Neither the people or the citizens can actually own any realestate here on this continent because this land is not the property of the U.S.A. government. The land is owned by the indigenious & aboriginal peoples. You must study int'l law.
3EIHCIR 1 year ago
@3EIHCIR I think we may be looking at different aspects. I'm working on making the system work the way it's supposed to, not withdrawing.
VerifiedNews 1 year ago