Illegal immigration discussed at town hall meeting

[onstageagain]

Americans R- the hardest working people ever. Tired of getting kicked around by illegals, here to suck r welfare system dry? Rem the Grasshopper plague? Chewed till only a waste land was left. That's what America is going to be when the illegal roaches get done with the Welfare funds. Ive heard mexicans laugh about what they r doing to Americans, "WE GOT IT MADE" We Make Good $ . Send it Home To Mex. Get Welfare Too! While they Laugh @ AMERICANS . HAVE WE HAD ENOUGH YET?

[TorchTexas]

Victor Padilla at the end of this is typical of the ignorant misinformed individuals that actually defend these criminals. Victor, it costs more to have them here committing crimes, housing them in jail, for them to work, steal identity, and send money back to Mexico then it is to pay for a simple plane or bus ride back to their country.

[damoparman]

30,000 cops in new york city

7,000 ice agents for entire u.s.

BIG PROBLEM

thats the reason ALL cops should have power to arrest illegals for being illegal

obama keeps it like it is so he can give them amnisty so they will vote in 2012

FACT

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[stayplayamade242]

seems like the problem is more about drunk driving and crime. The fact that they were illegal has absolutely no correlation with driving drunk or running over a mother and daughter. These are tragic accidents but don't blame all immigrants blame the people who did that, drunks come in all shape and forms.

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[Mom2BTJ]

@stayplayamade242 thank you for your comment, Geraldo

[Mom2BTJ]

Give up that stupid argument that Europeans are illegal, If they weren't here, you wouldn't want to be here either. Illegals are parasites to all US citizens.

If mexico or it's people owned the US it would look just like mexico and the illegal mexicans would be running away as fast as they could.

Oh, and just an FYI, the race card doesn't work anymore.

The only Amnesty that should be given is to those who are following the rules to come here and be US citizens. Illegals should get NOTHING!

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[Mom2BTJ]

How about we give Amnesty to those who are working hard to come here the right way? That is the only Amnesty that should be given.

We don't allow our own citizens to break laws and get away with it because they would be separated from their families. So, we are not all that worried about illegals and their families.

It is a slap in the face to those who came and are coming in legally to reward those who come in illegally and think they have the right to push their way to the front of the line.

[rogermor1]

ok ur not native to the americas if u european trash ancestry sorry pilgrims thats a fact u sound stupid as fuck when u people say that.Ilegal imigration is here to stay so get used to it ur too weak to stop it hahaha all they have to do is say ur racist and u run like hoes

[dan3f420]

"THEY TOOK AAR JAAABS!!!!"

[NachoPatriot]

One example of a rapidly growing crime that has high illegal alien participation, causing many months if not years of misery for the victim, Identity Theft is a Serious Immigration Issue and Illegal Aliens Steal Identities To Get American Jobs.

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[NachoPatriot]

Also We wouldnt be paying $1.75 billion annually for anchor babies, and worse, we wouldnt be paying $2.45 billion K-12 annually educating those babies—while our schools get dumb down.

[NachoPatriot]

If illegal immigration wasn't going on ,we wouldnt have hundreds of thousands of illegals committing car thefts, insurance fraud, driving while drunk and no license, and ID theft.

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[NOMCCBAMA]

The only reason you want to be in the US is because you wish to participate in what was done to the US natives. So shove your "I'm indigenous to the continent" crap up your ass

[juicyphxaz]

are there any hispanics that are not for illegal immigration? "this is nothing short of a takeover of america" Hispanics only seem to care about themselves!! even the legal hispanics are for illegal immigration.

[NOMCCBAMA]

I believe the first amnesty was done to encourage this invasion. In order to form a north american union similar to Europe's union. And screw us out of our rights and the constitution. The federal government does next to nothing to control the border or discourage the hiring of illegals. They've increased legal immigration numbers from 25000 in 1970. To 1.5 million. If they catch one they release them with an order to show up for court. Both parties are corrupt. visit numbersusa com

[juicyphxaz]

if we don't all come together to end this thing the country will be lost. I'm from AZ and all the races here are against illegal immigration except for the hispanics. "it's like a silent war"

[NOMCCBAMA]

@juicyphxaz It's the hijacked federal government who is responsible for this. Of courese the hispanics would love to take this country over.

They are dumb enough to believe that the middle class will continue with this country flooded by millions of illegals willing to work for a third of what we are.

[Unilateralism]

I didn't. You claimed that you had the right to the name 'American' because of your ancestry (by your logic, the only right with which it may be claimed), while I pointed out that it was, in fact, your ancestry that surrendered that name to the US, and accepted the title of Latin American (by the aforementioned logic, the only name you have a right to claim for yourself unless otherwise offered).

I've visited Europe, I was not born there, neither were my parents. I am American.

[Unilateralism]

What kind of pseudo-racist propaganda is that? All Arabs are not terrorist, all terrorists are not Arabs. Arabs are people from any area once under the control of the Arabian empire. Terrorists are people who inspire terror, be it for good or evil.

Now, seeing as your example wasn't an accurate example of anything, other then your own ignorance, your examples fail, and my reasoning is resound and resolute.

You're so crass as to call me a pilgrim, yet ignorance surrounds your every word.

[Unilateralism]

I was born in the Americas. I was raised in the Americas. Of the times I've been to Europe, I've always come back, and never once have I submitted a request for European citizenship. I am native to the Americas, as much as you, or any person.

The ceremony? We offered to defend the Western Hemisphere from European control, and your ancestors replied, with resounding approval, "America for the Americans!" with the latter referring to the United States.

[Unilateralism]

To my knowledge, none of the names I've mentioned have been hyphenated. Furthermore, since you claim ancestry as your right t an un-hyphenated name (though I still see no hyphen to be found) it was your ancestors that accepted that name, thus that is the name you have a right to. Furthermore, I am no pilgrim. I was born here, I was raised here, and thus I am a native. Though whether or not I'm a citizen of the US should require more then that, the fact remains that I am as much a native as you.

[Unilateralism]

That's quite possible. Heck, that's more then likely, but besides the point. The fact is, they already accepted there designation as Latin Americans, and granted us ours as Americans over a century ago.

[Unilateralism]

Why is it only this continent? Why not the South American continent? What about Greenland? As far as Europeans are concerned, what about Great Britain? Many British people refuse to be referred to as European. What about those living in Siberia, who have often claimed to be European? The fact is, people will be referred to as what they want to be referred to as a whole. U.S. Citizens want to be called Americans, and the Latin Americans gave them the idea, accepting Latin American as their title.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

No, fraction of what whites pay is exactly right. Hispanics comprise about 13% of the national population, whites about 65%. Further, the average white worker earns more money than the average Hispanic, so the former will pay more into the system than the latter ... a lot more. When looking at the groups' relative input, it's not even close. Hispanics pay a fraction of what whites do in taxes; and when I say fraction, it's not half.  Much less than that, in fact.

[EPGAH]

Actually, America is superior, otherwise Americans would be sneaking into Mexico, rather than Mexico's trash invading America and whining "racism" when they're sent home alive, rather than in a box!

[EPGAH]

Actually, if you're already American just from living on the continent, then you have no need to invade our country, let alone act out in a way that focuses more ire on you and yours!

Mexicans only invade America because it's convenient...I would prefer they invade China, they have a far superior system for dealing with illegals...

Although Sheriff Joe has copied a large part of it: Since they come here "just to work", put'em to work!

[EPGAH]

No, Mexicans usually refer to themselves as Mexican--even when they live on THIS side of the border!

No loyalty to us, why should we do them any favors?

And I see where you're confused. You're confusing the NATION of America with the CONTINENT of North America, right?

Or do you believe Canadians are Americans too?

[EPGAH]

Actually, that was my question to you: This is America. People born to Americans are Americans.

Why do people not born to Americans think they are somehow entitled to just break in and steal what my ancestors and I built up?

Steal from your own country. Carlos Slim is now richer than Bill Gates. As a fellow Mexican, he should understand that Mexicans have to steal to survive!

[EPGAH]

So there's a lot of invaders...Is that supposed to mean something?

Just because there's a lot of parasites doesn't mean we have to give up and give in to the invaders.

This is our country. If you want to be part of it, follow the laws and come in legally. If you want to break our laws, you'll be treated like any criminal, UNTIL Mexico declares war against us--and even then, they'd have to WIN before breaking our laws and treaties!

Look up Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Stay on your side!

[EPGAH]

Umm, in the same 230 years, Americans made a great country, Mexicans made a semi-anarchistic state.

500 years? That would be Spanish "settlement", which is what started Mexico.

As to your complaint about entitlement, what makes someone "entitled" to break the laws of A WHOLE COUNTRY and invade when not only do the people not want them, but there are actually LAWS against it?

Indians didn't make a country, let alone immigration laws or a "system" for it!

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

Well of course you don't. The income and property tax money Latinos pay into the system annually is a fraction of what the average white folks cough up. How generous of you! I tell you what. We'll go out to dinner and I'll pick up the tab for the meal while you make sure to tip the parking attendant, fair? Next argument please, Pedro.

[DerailAmnestydotcom]

Victor Padilla could not be more wrong. Any money we spend getting rid of illegals will save us a lifetime of taxpayer funded govt. services.

[EPGAH]

I have thought about it from their point though, and from their P.O.V. they are perfectly justified to break our laws and come over here. However, because they are breaking OUR laws in order to steal OUR jobs and OUR things, then we are perfectly justified in doing everything in our power to stop them!

[forsomereasonIhateu]

But immigrant choose to come here knowing our country is messed up. I dont need to know their plight. I know they are not doing anything to take back their country they flee and come here and "expect" jobs and other privileges created by Americans for Americans. Yes immigrants built this country but that is not the issue, the main issue is this isnt the 40's and circumstances are not the same. Your fleeing from your country is copout ever hear of the Boston tea party?

[forsomereasonIhateu]

Its funny how you talk about obese Americans but what is the name of your country?I dont see that many skinny mexican girls and I bet your a fat ass as well. But when you have a college education and you need to pick fruit you pick the right tool for the job. In this case many people chose someone with a mentality that doesnt get bored picking fruit and is cut out for manual labor. I would like to see you perform open heart surgery puta.

[chingon711]

which one of you lazy obese white scumbags is ready to go out in the fields and pick MY fruits and vegetables?

[onstageagain]

@chingon711 Get out of this country... don't worry about how we will get our crops picked ...or how we will get food to market.. thats R problem ... Reconquistas wave the Mexican flag high in the air, shout in Spanish,& nostalgically wax on about how wonderful Mexico is, how morally superior it is to the US , & the same time protest against being sent back to Mexico, that place they say is so great, but left, now refuse to go back to. Get the fuck out.

[javoangel]

The financial cost of car crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed in 2003. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes.

There are 11 million undocumented immigrants, and only less than 15% of them have a car.

Read your newspaper tomorrow, and you'll find at least a car accident where the driver is not a undocumented immigrant.

[coolassdude42]

another drunk illegal?

i thought these people were hiding in the shadows?

[EPGAH]

No, ever since 2006, they decided there's enough of them, they don't need to hide anymore, then they scratch their empty heads in confusion when they get arrested and deported--note, I did NOT say punished!

If you shoo an animal away, it'll just come back, ESPECIALLY if it associates a location with free food!

[gchand7]

What money??? average .223 round the military weapons shoot $0.25. We already paying troops in our armed forces. Put troops on the border anyone coming across shoot to kill. Our presidents have taken an oath to defend this country from invasion and none have been doing their job. This would solve illegal immigration and drug trafficing !

[otter44]

Illegal immigration is totally out of control and the laws need to be enforced yesterday.

Get out of my country you parasites.

[BrendanIsCool]

damn right brother

[vanessac5]

Without immigrants this country wouldn't be the same. You say this is your country, but you don't realize that all of your ancesters were immigrants also, running to practice their own religion. Native Indians are the only originals from this land, but of course you have been thought this country was built by white americans (bullshit). You need to educate yourselves more and have some concious of what immigrants go through and why they are actually here.

[pr05]

We don't have the resources to enforce our immigration laws yet we have enough to legalize them all? Yeah that makes sense.

[Willstruth]

We need "shock and awe" tactics to deal with this problem once and for all. We keep pussy-footing around while thousands keep sneaking across that swiss cheese border every day.

The fed just said that unemployment will go to double digits and no new jobs for at least the next 5 years!

Does Obama really think that another SCAMnesty will wash with the people without causing a major revolution in the US!

Enough is enough!

[nextdrink45]

"make them legal" .....WHAT THE F%$K??? Just so they can be in this country legally and STILL committ these crimes of MURDER!!??!!

The hammer NEEDS to drop in this country about actually ENFORCING our existing immigration laws!!!!!!

Here ya go folks.....yet ANOTHER reason why we NEED the border SEALED and the ILLEGALS OUT!!!! Another innocent AMERICAN family torn apart at the hands of an ILLEGAL!!!!!!