@dman0331gmodgames You need that special PCI-E connector I could probably use it cause I have a FSC Amilo Sa 3650 which has the port, it comes with an external 3870 though.
@HontouniZoom this is what I'e been searching for myself, it seems that the simple answer is no. there is a hack to do this if you do some research but I advise only experts try it out. also if your lappy has an hdmi IN then it might make your life easier. however these are all PCI connected (all eGPUs solutions I found) and the card is configured to send the video feed to it's ports, not back through the PCI
I am now waiting for a thunderbolt solution for my mac, maybe that will answer it :)
I have only ever seen 1 laptop in stores with this plug. Really it's just a 2.0x PCIe express link with a line for USB 2.0 so the laptop driver can manage the external box. The problem is that it offers little or no benefit over other third part solutions that already on the market, that use the ExpressPort or mPCIe port, and can use desktop graphics cards. It doesn't even have a DVI loopback so the internal laptop screen can be used.
Just to make it clear for everyone. To use an external graphics card via XGP, you do NOT need an ExpressCard slot. What you DO need is a XGP slot. It's a special port, for special cables, and it's nothing like the current standards (USB, eSATA, ExpressCard, SD, etc.). Existing external graphics card solutions that use ExpressCard, like ViDock, are connected to the ExpressCard slot, which is connected to the motherboard through PCIe x1 (one lane). XGP connections are PCIe x8 (better speed).
@emosp0ngebob Well, that is because there are not very many. The new Acer Ferrari (don't know which model) has an XGP slot, and an older Fujitsu Siemens Amilo had a similar slot. There may also be a Toshiba with XGP, but I'm not sure. There are really not that many out there...
Unfortunately all they do is show demos at shows. There is still no external XGP compatible graphics card available to buy anywhere, even on the Internet. I have had a Ferrari One for months waiting for the promised XGP cards but it looks like I'll be selling it now.
Seriously?!?! This isn't a "gamin powahowes". The cpu is so bottlenecked with a 5830. Most desktop cpus are bottlenecked with a 5830. This is like putting a car engine on a weed wacker. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
No your internet is slow only 8 megabytings upgrade to 42 megabytings i love phonejacker. just bought this gpu. Got good benchmarks got it cheap anyway nice vid (:
Just so you know, you need an ATI XGP ready laptop/netbook to be able to use the ATI XGP. You can't use it with older laptops that don't have this technology installed, which seems a little against the point of wanting one.
@Drum8888 Well this is true, but the same could be said for any technology introduced, It will take time to come mainstream into products. But it is a fair point to make.
I've been thinking about a product like this years ago, i would have made a place on the notebook like an HHd door, but instead you could put in swapable graphics card
ehhh idk how i feel about the mobile gpu...would rather have a simple plug and play external adapter for regular gpus...that way you can upgrade to whatever card.
also the catch to this box is that you must have enough ram and a big enough processor on your "small and thin" laptop that it can run any game you want.
So if im correct, this actually works on every laptop with a proper pci-express port and not just 1 or 2 computers of a single... producing company? Dunno how its said..
So, when will I be able to pick one of these up in Scandinavia? I've heard alot about this stuff in the past but never seen it around any stores or even heard of anyone owning one - so this new showcase from just last week brings back some faith into the (reasonably) mobile gaming space - or, why not simple notebook upgradability.
I have the 13.3 inch Fujitsu Siemens SA3650 with the PCI Express 2.0 connector plus the ATI XGP 3870, and I wish to express that it's a very amazing technology, and turns a small, compact laptop into, truly, a powerhouse.
I'll be looking for this 5830 XGP for upgrading purposes, but I might need a external CPU too if this keeps up.. ;) (Turion ZM-82 @ 2.2 ghz works great though).
I have been trying to find an online retailer willing to ship the sa3650 to USA. What online site did you get yours from (assuming you also live in America)?
It's tough to find, but since I'm in Europe, my advice may not help a lot. Try sites that keep check of stock of e-tailers, I had a lot of luck getting the SA3650 myself, it was sold in a bundle with the 3870 XGP for 600 euros to me.
Best thing you can do is try to keep searching, or wait a year or longer until the next XGP model would arrive. (No word on that though).
... But will it blend?
tHickman95 1 week ago
Ferrari 1
wolfmp5 3 weeks ago
This is odd because u need the special port the only the garraro 1 has
wolfmp5 3 weeks ago
It was cool if it actually would process for the laptop screen. For a external screen I have my desktop already at home...
guily6669 3 weeks ago
I want
tlordon 1 month ago
Where can i buy one?
adriangcampbell 3 months ago
HOLy SHIT THAnK GOD I HAVE AN AMD PROSSESER! I AM BuYING THS EVEN IF iTS OVER 200 DoLLaRs!
dman0331gmodgames 5 months ago
@dman0331gmodgames You need that special PCI-E connector I could probably use it cause I have a FSC Amilo Sa 3650 which has the port, it comes with an external 3870 though.
Tand0oriCh1cken 4 months ago
Looks like it would be an awesome solution for a college student who games but also needs a laptop.
Stewdill51 5 months ago
can I use this for a laptop only..... I mean is no external Monitor but for the laptop top ....... can I play games in the laptop or I can't??
HontouniZoom 6 months ago
@HontouniZoom this is what I'e been searching for myself, it seems that the simple answer is no. there is a hack to do this if you do some research but I advise only experts try it out. also if your lappy has an hdmi IN then it might make your life easier. however these are all PCI connected (all eGPUs solutions I found) and the card is configured to send the video feed to it's ports, not back through the PCI
I am now waiting for a thunderbolt solution for my mac, maybe that will answer it :)
dannypires1 4 months ago
where can i buy one of these???????
drummermanryan 6 months ago
What connector does it use?
flashn00b 7 months ago
@flashn00b as far as i know it uses a PCI-express port but, if your laptop does not have one (which many don't) there are PCI-E to USB solutions
moomoomeal 6 months ago
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mczaga 6 months ago
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@moomoomeal I dont have the PCI-expres card port just have USB 2.0 port how can i use it?
mczaga 6 months ago
@moomoomeal no it cant be done usb 2.0 cant barely do hd pvr that why it cant stream vidock best i seen for kits it abt 230$ for a kit
theporkchopchannel 6 months ago
@theporkchopchannel oh really? i didn't know that. could it be done with a usb 3.0? or possibly a thunderbolt port?
moomoomeal 6 months ago
I have only ever seen 1 laptop in stores with this plug. Really it's just a 2.0x PCIe express link with a line for USB 2.0 so the laptop driver can manage the external box. The problem is that it offers little or no benefit over other third part solutions that already on the market, that use the ExpressPort or mPCIe port, and can use desktop graphics cards. It doesn't even have a DVI loopback so the internal laptop screen can be used.
yebetrollin 7 months ago
what interface does it use?? doesn't it create bandwidth bottle necks since it doesn't have full bus integration???
Xytos 7 months ago
so you have to buy a whole new monitor when you get a new graphics card??
mrostos 7 months ago
How do u connect that to ur laptop ?
MrXboxhalolover 8 months ago
AWESOME TECH!
Videoeditor3000 8 months ago
I wonder if this would work on a dell demension e510 pc?
AverageSuscriber17 8 months ago
Make one for the new macbooks with thunderbolt!
mikevanstaveren 9 months ago
Indians !!!! NICE !!!!
shakifur 10 months ago
rocking crysis at 800 by 600 relolution
ODeathKing 10 months ago
Just to make it clear for everyone. To use an external graphics card via XGP, you do NOT need an ExpressCard slot. What you DO need is a XGP slot. It's a special port, for special cables, and it's nothing like the current standards (USB, eSATA, ExpressCard, SD, etc.). Existing external graphics card solutions that use ExpressCard, like ViDock, are connected to the ExpressCard slot, which is connected to the motherboard through PCIe x1 (one lane). XGP connections are PCIe x8 (better speed).
tomichaubg 11 months ago 3
@tomichaubg so what laptops have xgp ports? i have never heard of them.
emosp0ngebob 10 months ago
@emosp0ngebob Well, that is because there are not very many. The new Acer Ferrari (don't know which model) has an XGP slot, and an older Fujitsu Siemens Amilo had a similar slot. There may also be a Toshiba with XGP, but I'm not sure. There are really not that many out there...
tomichaubg 10 months ago
if u have to use an additional monitor u might as well just keep ur desktop around i hate useless tech. fucking a.
idiot4aday 1 year ago
@idiot4aday good point
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techetech 1 year ago
i dont have an express card slot, what do i do?
Bortelliify 1 year ago
@Bortelliify same here all i want to do is upgrade my laptops graphic\s card
lLegitimate 1 year ago
@Bortelliify nothing but weep. thats all.
nelizmastr 1 year ago
wuakakak not talking cpu and ram.. please check it out b4 u comment.. it call XGP xexternal graphics platform.. u can say it external GPU .. not cpu
elvenlee 1 year ago
@elvenlee buy another motherboard with a slot
terrelldaniel 1 year ago
unless they make a external cpu and ram, theres gonna be major bottleneck
and if the total cost of netbook, external cpu,gpu,and ram gets expensive, i might as well get the alienware m11x gaming netbook
LiteScar 1 year ago
unless they make an external CPU and RAM, this is gonna be a major bottleneck
LiteScar 1 year ago
where do i get this?
elchicoboy 1 year ago
This is so dumb. If you dont have an PCI port on your laptop you cant use this, Acer ferrari One sucks, processor just sucks....
I prefer to work like slave until i have the enough money to buy an alienware m15....
ricayovillanueva 1 year ago
@ricayovillanueva You can buy the Amilo SA 3650 it comes with an better cpu.
mikethk 1 year ago
do u have to have express card slot dor this
MrPyrotech96 1 year ago
@MrPyrotech96 basically YES!
RyN2iX 1 year ago
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GamerzCreed01 1 year ago
Unfortunately all they do is show demos at shows. There is still no external XGP compatible graphics card available to buy anywhere, even on the Internet. I have had a Ferrari One for months waiting for the promised XGP cards but it looks like I'll be selling it now.
Barry3443 1 year ago
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sub7viet 1 year ago
wtf
donZeriouS 1 year ago
Seriously?!?! This isn't a "gamin powahowes". The cpu is so bottlenecked with a 5830. Most desktop cpus are bottlenecked with a 5830. This is like putting a car engine on a weed wacker. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
greyfoxzero 1 year ago
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bloppo11 1 year ago
WHEN THE FUCK IS IT COMING OUT
RebornLegacy 1 year ago
Name change to XGB. Its way more cooler. For External graphic BOOSTER
mikethk 1 year ago
so when does this shit come out?
ThEuNdYiNg1 1 year ago
ALAHU AKBAR *presses a button*
*BOOOOOM*
Deathuntneki4 1 year ago
I'm going to be the first to turn an EEE 901SD into a computer that can play Crysis on high.
DandamanV 1 year ago
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WHERE IS IT TO BE BOUGHT !
heisenfeis 1 year ago
No your internet is slow only 8 megabytings upgrade to 42 megabytings i love phonejacker. just bought this gpu. Got good benchmarks got it cheap anyway nice vid (:
CHAPMANSTIG 1 year ago
@CHAPMANSTIG where can u get 42 megabytings, which country am on 18 atm!
gsourze 1 year ago
I'd rather just have a cheap Laptop, and a gaming PC... Or in my case, a gaming PC and a gaming Laptop.
RichGilly 1 year ago
Turn up the settings... and get massive:
-CPU lag
-RAM lag
-Motherboard lag
-Hard drive lag
FRURMELLL 1 year ago
Just so you know, you need an ATI XGP ready laptop/netbook to be able to use the ATI XGP. You can't use it with older laptops that don't have this technology installed, which seems a little against the point of wanting one.
Drum8888 1 year ago 6
@Drum8888 Well this is true, but the same could be said for any technology introduced, It will take time to come mainstream into products. But it is a fair point to make.
cryos2k5 1 year ago
where CAN I BUY IT?
JIMIGIO94 1 year ago
what if ur computer doesnt have a pci express slot, like mine. are the USB slots not fast enough for this kind of data?
noneofyourbuisness7 1 year ago
@noneofyourbuisness7
no
tehdime 1 year ago
Think they'll come out with a 5850 or 5870 version?
b257 1 year ago
Asus made a product similar to this a while back it was a external 8600 gt which used a use connection but it was not very popular and just as rare.
shotta2545 1 year ago
oyuiyyi
13JBX 1 year ago
pretty cool!! where i can buy this? :D
empty19941 1 year ago
Hell, I have 4gs of RAM and a dual core processor, yet my laptop bones me because its graphic's card is weak.
funyongod 1 year ago
@funyongod me too dude im gettin this for sure
leoc5 1 year ago
most laptops aren´t compatible
really wanted something like that for my Acer 5920g
YaBaDji 1 year ago
I've been thinking about a product like this years ago, i would have made a place on the notebook like an HHd door, but instead you could put in swapable graphics card
deagle94 1 year ago
where i can buy and how much does it cost
ms701 1 year ago
@ms701 its about $160
stupidbutfunnylol1 1 year ago
you said "you can have this notebook" so when can i have it and where do i pick it up? :)
37474748 1 year ago 2
What the fuck did he say?
all i heard was " blah blah bah, Uh Uh, Uh Uh."
LB10671 1 year ago
Great. The question is where can I buy an ATI 5000 Series mobility radeon???? Since they are not sold to the consumer market
Turbinieris 1 year ago
ehhh idk how i feel about the mobile gpu...would rather have a simple plug and play external adapter for regular gpus...that way you can upgrade to whatever card.
also the catch to this box is that you must have enough ram and a big enough processor on your "small and thin" laptop that it can run any game you want.
alextheromanian 1 year ago
Thats cool
getlow1985 1 year ago
indian?
PSPfanBOY22 1 year ago
So if im correct, this actually works on every laptop with a proper pci-express port and not just 1 or 2 computers of a single... producing company? Dunno how its said..
Kesykana 1 year ago 2
ABDUUUUUUL
ruhtraeel 1 year ago 33
@ruhtraeel hey thats my name lol
23Jilani 1 year ago
where did u get this and how much does it cost!
Theethruth 2 years ago
YES WHEN?! I'm getting that netbook and NEED this awesome magic box!
weeksy79 2 years ago
Fujitsu's AMILO Sa 3650
Expect to cost about 300 bucks or so...
TrueYears 2 years ago
Damn that laptop looks so techy and cool! I think I'm gonna get that one when I finally decide to get a laptop.
n3rdbear 1 year ago
So, when will I be able to pick one of these up in Scandinavia? I've heard alot about this stuff in the past but never seen it around any stores or even heard of anyone owning one - so this new showcase from just last week brings back some faith into the (reasonably) mobile gaming space - or, why not simple notebook upgradability.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
I've been waiting for this a lonnnnngggggg time. Pricing? And can it work via PCI Express 2.0?
BravoCharlieComAU 2 years ago
woooooow i need one :O its gunna be hella expensive i bet
SqueeG19 2 years ago
hello my friend indian.
wing0410 2 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised if similar things get common in the future!
Doom2Guy 2 years ago
now we need some external cpu's and rams to make our cheapass eee pc's gaming platforms :D
gadgou2 2 years ago 64
@gadgou2 lol, It would be way more expensive then making one yourself x(
Wookie1234567 1 year ago
@gadgou2 this doesnt work for eee pc.the reason is that eee pc do not have an xpress card slot
MrPyrotech96 1 year ago
@gadgou2 im working on it lol
lildevilchild23 1 year ago
sadly you will hardly find external pci express 2.0 port commonly on notebook .
But this technology really gains to be more popular
CyannureMAGIk 2 years ago
I have the 13.3 inch Fujitsu Siemens SA3650 with the PCI Express 2.0 connector plus the ATI XGP 3870, and I wish to express that it's a very amazing technology, and turns a small, compact laptop into, truly, a powerhouse.
I'll be looking for this 5830 XGP for upgrading purposes, but I might need a external CPU too if this keeps up.. ;) (Turion ZM-82 @ 2.2 ghz works great though).
JCDentonCZ 2 years ago
I have been trying to find an online retailer willing to ship the sa3650 to USA. What online site did you get yours from (assuming you also live in America)?
StabbyYooStyle 2 years ago
It's tough to find, but since I'm in Europe, my advice may not help a lot. Try sites that keep check of stock of e-tailers, I had a lot of luck getting the SA3650 myself, it was sold in a bundle with the 3870 XGP for 600 euros to me.
Best thing you can do is try to keep searching, or wait a year or longer until the next XGP model would arrive. (No word on that though).
JCDentonCZ 2 years ago
pricing???
junkerde 2 years ago