some of the commentary about "female musicians" reminds me just how far we have come. when i hear a musician i dont think "wow she's good for a female" i just think...damn they playing that drum (or whatever)
Just proves that women are just as (or even more) arrogant, selfish, and greedy as men. Don't these groups ever learn from the groups and bands that came before them???? They are all just GREEDY!!! Then years later, when VH1 or TV One does a 'where are they now' story on them, they always regret being so damn selfish....but by then it's too late.
Dang you would think at least an acknowledgement of all FEMALE musicians who played with these ladies after all it was titled "UNSUNG" but true to Klymaxx form that would be too much like right huh??? SMH...God Bless Us ALL!!!
Although their success and band was short lived. They are still the coldest female band of our time. You just didn't see an all female band with true and raw talent like that and could really bring it. Nice! I still like Klymaxx. I just hope they put aside all differences and the orginal members do a reunion tour or something. I wanna see if they can still bring it.
"Superbad-Parts 1 and 2!"- What yall know about that? Anyway,don't get me started about the lack of musicianship in "R&B",since the late 90s or so.Thank God,in the 80s,we had people like Prince & Teena Marie keeping it alive.But now its all about beats,instead of bands.
DAMN what happened to them..time was not good to theses women..they use to look good back in the day..i guess its true once a woman pass 30 shes down hill from there
Cheryl, was wrong as hell!! She might have had good intentions, but you have to consult the leader, the whole group before you can take on the name. Now, that's where, Bernadette went wrong at-- she didn't get it owned.
@513bassking lmao! I'm sorry, but there is no excuse for that. She could have gotten fitted with some partials or something. She knew she was going to be interviewed!
@NicoleH73...ROFLLMAO...Why was I thinkin' the same thing. She must of did crack or something and smoked all of her teeth. Ooowee! She looks a mess. I mean you don't see not one tooth. WOW! Yet, Klymaxx was the bizness back in the day. This was so my era. I was about 13 or 14 years old when they stepped on the scene. Bernadette hair is still rockin' to me though. She was always the sassy one out that group and she could play the drums.
Cont. SUGAHH, in the 80,s consisted of Bass, Keyboards, 2 Lead Guitars, Drummer, Sax and Flute, Sax and Percussions, 2 Lead Vocals different ranges, all FEMALE. We won the 1983 National Budwiser Showdown held at the Paldium in Los Angeles hosted by Lou, Rawls. It seemed like everywhere we performed a member of Klymaxx was there observing. That's what they were suppose to do, because we were on their tails, and we were GOOD!! Couldn't get a break from our Record Co. Polygram, so we faded.
I've read all the comments and I want to congratulate KLYMAXX for being a wonderful band in the 80's, and good competition. If you were to ask any member of klymaxx themselves, who were they concerned about the most during the time they were coming up and trying to get a hit, I know they would never admitt it in all honesty, but that would be SUGAHH. An all female 9 piece band based in Los Angeles. I was a member of this band, we played all over Los Angeles County and other Counties.
I was a young teenager the first time that I saw their video “The men all pause” on TV in the early 80’sand I remember saying in a state of transfix " All girl band playing musical instruments. I wanna be fierce like them". They came out with an attitude on stage, the clothes were edgy, the style was new nd sexy. I just changed my dress style and hairstyle just to be like Klymaxx. They are icons and they came with a style that was new and fresh. They should go down in music history.
Great documentary of the group. I saw Klymaxx in concert with The Gap Band years ago and they took no prisoners with their show. After watching this I feel like its time for a Mary Jane Girls Unsung...80's Funk was nothing to play with.
@PopCulture20 ..I think they are referring to Klymaxx being the first maintsream female R&B band in which all members played instruments......... Heart actually had male members, actually at times it was mostly male (espcially early 70s) - Ann and Nacy were the only constants though as they basically were the 'face' of Heart and the most well known members.
@daretosayit Ohhhh I see now lol Thanks for clarifying because the whole time I was watching this, I was thinking ''People please get your facts right. Heart was the first all female band''
@PopCulture20 -No prob. UnSung primarily deals with R&B/Soul/Funk artists and bands, so they did not specify what aspect of 'firsts' they were referring. Heart is not technically listed as a female band. It was first formed with all men under a different name, changed lineups (added one female named Debi until '71) and used the name White Heart, then just Heart in 1970-71 until 1972, when Ann joined (band changed to Hocus Pocus). Band used Heart again in '73'... Nancy joined in '74. Confusing!
@PopCulture20 ...I had to ask someone much older than I, and someone who had connections to the music industry (my friend was a sound engineer during the 60s and 70s - USA/Eur) according to my friend, some group named Goldie & the Gingerbreads were the first all-female rock band signed to a major record label, 1st signed to a label I've never heard of in 1963, and they were signed to Atlantic in 1964. I'm going to have to check them out, my friend is usually pretty good at this stuff...lol
@daretosayit Checkout wikipedia. It actually states that Goldie & the Gingerbreads were the 1st all-female rock band so your friend is absolutely right. Now all I have to know is who was the 1st female rapper signed to a major label lol
@PopCulture20 ...really? So cool! I tend to ask him a lot of questions about groups/singers from yesteryear and he's worked with quite a few. The last album he worked on is Sade's current Soldier of Love album. .... I will ask about the female rapper, but he did not work with rappers - actually neither he nor I listen to rap, but he may be able to find out. It's late, but maybe I'll hceck with him this week, :-)
@PopCulture20 ..Have to tell you my friend cracked me up... I mentioned that you verified his info on Wiki and he said 'I don't care 'bout no WikOpeedYa!'..LOL as if he wanted to be the only person who knew the info. He said he worked with one of the girls whose last name was Ravan when she was with another band, and he knew of the signing of her previous group. Me? i'm just happy another source verified it because my friend isn't a spring chicken, but he knows a lot of behind the scenes stuff
@PopCulture20 Okay, asked my friend - who had no idea - he called up a friend he felt would perhaps know more. According to the gentleman asked, MC Lyte was actually the first hardcore female rapper (solo) who was signed to a major record label in '88. Though other female rappers released singles and/or albums they were not signed to a MAJOR label. He also threw in that someone by the name of Lady B was one of the first female hip-hop artists with a single called "To The Beat, Y'all" in 1979.
They all abandoned the group but three of them and the only reason the 3 left was bc they were dropped 4rm MCA. Cheryl is in the right + she tried to reunite them all . I bet the only reason three of them formed again was because Cheryl formed her new version of Klymaxx, and even though Bernadette is the founder of the group she lost claim when she was the first to leave bc if thats the case when she originally left she would have originally had a problem about the use of the name"Klymaxx".
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They may have been the first all female FUNK band, but they weren't the first all female band. The first all female band that I know of were The Runaways, which started in 1975.
@thejazzman210 Actually, "I Miss You" was their biggest hit. It went pop, adult contemporary and R&B, whereas "The Men All Pause" was only an R&B hit.
Great Unsung episode! Fyi, TV One had the wrong year for the clip that begins at 40:18 from the VH1 show Bands Reunited. That aired in early 2004. I think it was taped in late '03.
@lorentat ... you just reminded me that the Clark Sisters have an UnSung. I never knew who they were until I watched the episode; I actually found it very interesting...now I'm going to have to see if I can find that episode to watch again.
I don't know if anybody else has said this or not in the text comments section, but they got something WRONG in this documentary. The narrator said that Jam and Lewis (who I admire tremendously) "helped Prince to hone his sound". WTF? No. It was the other way around.
@mjjcng8958 No, Prince was a control freak when he produced other artists and groups like "The Time". He would write their songs for them and tell them what to do. He made ALL the creative and musical decisions. After Jam & Lewis left the Prince camp they were able to do their own thing, so it's inaccurate to say that they "helped Prince to hone his sound."
@JunebugObama in context of what they said the time was prince's backing band so in a sense the kind of did help give orince his sound b/c w/o the band you have no sound
@mjjcng8958 Prince composed and arranged every note they played and he dictated what they did on stage. Also, The Time was NOT Prince's backing band. Prince's band was called The Revolution. The Time was a separate act produced by Prince (ask your Mother to verify this). The Time also played in back of Vanity 6.
You obviously missed ALL of the 80s. You were not born when all of this was going on but I appreciate the fact that you listen to some of the older music.
@JunebugObama Well actually, if you go further back to when they were in competing bands around MPLS, maybe Jimmy and Terry DID help Prince hone his sound. Maybe they all helped each other. Prince was just one of them, of course, who rocked every basic band instrument, but they all were honing their sound and I'm sure many around Prince were inspiring him into certain musical directions. All those guys were bouncing ideas back and forth competitively - Flyte Tyme, Champagne, etc.
As good as they were, even if they hadn't broken up their heyday was still gone. They and Mint Condition were the last of the true r&b "bands" before the record labels changed the landscape to give the producers all the power. Ever since the late 80s, the industry has preferred solo r&b artists to bands and has turned its back on r&b musicians and only allows them to be involved as session or touring players.
@cathridge You mean when the music industry allowed thuggery and gangsta rap, sampling, etc. all that to offset or replace, for lack of a better word, no, supplant actual R&B, Soul, Funk musicians, right? Yeah, I remember that sad, sad turn of events oh so well.
@wendileona Yup. That would be the era. Very sad indeed. There are a lot of talented r&b musicians today working crappy jobs they hate because of it while these hoodlums with no sense of art, manners or class get to ride in limousines and trash five star hotels. Because the music industry loves that these dopes are ignorant and easily duped out of their true royalties by just giving them worthless material things like flashy cars and jewelry.
@cathridge Its interesting to note that this started to happen when artists like Prince started demanding their ownership of mastertapes and better royalties etc. Now, its all a controlled entertainment system. Even rock bands are manufactured.
From my perspective, a system where they can manufacture less talented in order for them to not have greater control of their contracts.
It gets messy and of course, there's society, it demands, they supply. If kids love thugs... they will get thugs.
@wendileona Actually the artists that started all this was Ray Charles. Watch the movie "Ray" when Ray starting calling the shots when he went to ABC Records and starting to own his masters, publishing, recording studio & production company. Then Stevie Wonder was next, when he turned 21 and almost left Motown unless Berry Gordy give in Wonder's demands including owning his masters & publishing(Wonder is one of the rare artists that didn't get screwed by Gordy). Then Michael Jackson did in 91.
@blachubear MJ did the same as Ray and Stevie in '91?
I stand corrected then. Those guys were smart and worked their talent as leverage, there was a confidence in that. Prince just got a deal he couldn't cope with after the fact many years later. Thru his career though, he was having problems w/WB in terms of editing down his albums controlling his fast pace, etc. Prince was about 19 and seriously hungry and didn't pay attention. Not sure new talent now does the same as Ray/Wonder though. THX!
@Tishauna7 I was actually blaming the industry, if you read closely enough, but ultimately new audiences that were supporters of not rappers but THUGGERY and criminality demanded that type of "music". So the industry only supplied the demand because there was money to be made.
Instead of not really understanding what I said and easily questioning if I'm blaming "rappers", again, give me something to reasonably counter that. Tell me I'm not telling the truth.
@wendileona you are wrong..that wasn't the only type of music that was popular, by solely mentioning "gangsta rap" you are ignoring HUGE acts like arrested development, public enemy, a tribe called quest, de la soul etc etc...and believe it or not great records came from the gangsta rap sub-genre objectively speaking. but it was NOT the SOLE type of rap. further more black bands in general was shunned as far back as the 80's after disco died. long before gangsta rap was even created!!
@Tishauna7 PE, TCQ, De La, those acts were buried and forgotten as soon as Gangsta rap was sold to you, the intended target audience at the time. Those other rap acts were actually moving, trying their best to create an alternative to the NWA's and LL Cools. PE was frighteningly powerful, a tsunami, and you and the intenended audience scrambled, in fact, entertainment scrambled! 'We cant give them that much power!'... lets glorify gang bangers... yeah...' Thus, what I call 'Sound-Crack'.
@wendileona i didn't scramble..i see choosing to like PE over NWA as a false dichotomy. i enjoyed both alternative rap AND gangsta rap. and people seem to forget arrested development outsold most gangsta rappers, likewise the fugees and later on Lauryn hill. besides- outside of dre, snoop, 2pac, and bone thugs gangsta rappers was never heavy sellers. plus alt rap lasted as long as gangsta rap up till the mid 90's. then "glam rap" became dominate.
@Tishauna7 Black bands still existed but it was that the move was made to put efforts into Madonna's and white bands like Hairbands, but there was The Time and Prince were essentially Black bands working it. But song writing, musicianship in African American music was still flourishing up until the slow emergence of that other replacement.
@wendileona ok then so it wasn't Hip Hop's fault. it was the industry's fault for shutting black bands out. it's not like hip-hop stopped the industry from promoting black rock/metal bands. that was because white AND black radio woin't play them. it's politics. and hip-hop was never immune either. by the turn of the millennium gangsta rap, political rap, alt rap (basically all the anti-establishment genre's) was persona non grata
@Tishauna7 No such thing as anti-establishement music movements or genre's, big corporations, marketing, all that's behind such things.
Rage Against The Machine was on Epic Records - Epic Records is an American record label, owned by Sony Music Entertainment, which operates under the umbrella of the Epic Label Group.
Rebellion, thuggery, angry, aggression based music, exists because there's an audience, and trust me, they micro-focus group that audience like you would not believe.
I don't fault Cooley for copyrighting the name. What she did is common practice 2 keep a band's name safe when a group disbands but no 1 is minding the store anymore. Because Klymaxx was a popular band, there was always a chance that they might have wanted 2 get back together again. Would hv been a shame if someone unrelated tried 2 assume ownership and use the name for their own personal gain. Since Cooley was the only one who still wanted 2 play, why shouldn't she be able to use it.
@cathridge Co-sign! She knew her rights and caught on. It wasn't her fault the group left because of their egos. It sounded like they never liked each other from jump..especially that white lady. LOL
@cathridge You know what, I never thought about it that way. You're right. Everyone bailed but her, so why shouldn't she trademark and use the name? Thanks for giving a different perspective on the situation.
@tonoslim The Go Gos were around before Klymaxx and more successful. The Runaways were actually the first all-female band to have success back in the mid 70s (there's a biopic of the same name that came out last year with Dakota Fanning and Kristen Stewart playing Cherie Curie and Joan Jett from the band) but they were nowhere as popular as The Go Gos or Klymaxx. . Klymaxx were the most successful all female r&b band.
omg I didn't know they sang I Miss You I though it was a guy lmao! OMG I BIG up's to right here in NC Ms. Irby I never knew that. I don't think their third album was better than their first two. An LORD Robbin Grider doesn't have a tooth in her head lol she looks like somebodies grandmother. Maybe she partied to hard.
WOW this is great, thanx for postin it.. man... WHO KNEW the whole time all of us were jammin and enjoyn these hitz while growin up as children and teenz of the 80z, that these talentd women would go thru such ordealz.. it has to be a group effort all the way or eventually you lose it all in the end and to me i feel like thatz what happend with klymaxx . i hope they all will reunite and set aside differencez to perform in tourz in the future.. really love this group. FEMALEZ ROCK!
Truth be told we only live once they all need to get back together and put it down as a unit because as a unit they are funky fresh in the flesh, dressed to impress- your highnesses!!
There's enough shine for everyone of those beautiful, talented, intelligent women to glow!!
@gittahfiend I agree with you on that one. Unsung brought that to light. I remember watching the "reunion" of VH1 Bands Reunited and they made it look like Cheryl Cooley just stole the name the of the group. Unsung just exposed that Bernadette, Joyce and Lynn were the ones that first abandoned the group. I will always love Klymaxx, but sadly they have no one to blame but themselves for what happened. I hope they eventually work it out.
Thanks for posting. On the Vh1 special they made Cheryl look like a snake in the grass. When really Bernadette abandon the group. Name and all. I guess as time passed they realized what a mistake they've made. They should be glad Cheryl the original member held on to the name and not a crooked record producer they don't know owning the rights or they wouldn't be able to use Klymaxx at all. I do wonder if Cheryl ever tried to call them.
@Hunni The issue was addressed on Bands Reunited. Cheryl wanted to reform but Bernadette was working on other projects at the time so Cheryl decided to get owner ship of the name and form her version of the group saying they were the original group. Cheryl neve contacted the original members to tell them about applying for the name. Now they each own the name with the Bernadetted, Joyce and Lorena perform as Kylmaxx while Cheryl performs with her own band
what happened to klymaxx is pretty typical of bands. very rarely do they endure for too long. remember all of those bands from the 80's and 90's? They all basically burned out primarily because they couldn't stand each other anymore, not to mention all of the industry politics involved.
I cut my hair like the lead singer when I was in HS. You could not tell me I wasn't cute!! Love these women. Klymaxx inspired us all!!!
aliveandconnected 1 day ago
I always thought "I'd Still Say Yes" was a big hit.
LAWoman323213 1 week ago
When I was a kid, I thought "I Miss You" was by DeBarge.
LAWoman323213 1 week ago
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@Manyek thanks for posting this. This is one of my favorite Unsung episodes.
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LAWoman323213 1 week ago
bernadette, you are more gorgeous now than you were in the 80's. wow!!
gghelo 1 week ago
They still greedy as ever. Money is all they cared about.
dondalord 1 week ago
some of the commentary about "female musicians" reminds me just how far we have come. when i hear a musician i dont think "wow she's good for a female" i just think...damn they playing that drum (or whatever)
miamivicepastels83 2 weeks ago
Just proves that women are just as (or even more) arrogant, selfish, and greedy as men. Don't these groups ever learn from the groups and bands that came before them???? They are all just GREEDY!!! Then years later, when VH1 or TV One does a 'where are they now' story on them, they always regret being so damn selfish....but by then it's too late.
djaybkay 2 weeks ago
@djaybkay So true. The stories are usually all the same. GREED!
LAWoman323213 1 week ago
KLYMAXX FUCKIN ROCKS EXCUSE MY DAMN FRENCH LOL
librastar88 2 weeks ago
im surprise they didnt get mad, everyone kept calling them girls
decep01 2 weeks ago
and I have that Madame X....:)
clevawoman 3 weeks ago
Robin.....what happen
clevawoman 3 weeks ago
@clevawoman She got ahold to the wrong sh*t!! smh..
datsouthernbell 2 weeks ago
Dang you would think at least an acknowledgement of all FEMALE musicians who played with these ladies after all it was titled "UNSUNG" but true to Klymaxx form that would be too much like right huh??? SMH...God Bless Us ALL!!!
stickytnt 3 weeks ago
That's Robin? WTF!?
ghostoffelakuti 3 weeks ago
That's Robin? WTF?
ghostoffelakuti 3 weeks ago
KLYMAXX!!! Tearin it up...."I'm A Woman (I'm A Backbone)"
nubianmanmusic 3 weeks ago
I thought I saw all the unsung episodes...dont remember seeing this one but it was good
MzMelissaRae 1 month ago
KLYMAXX ONE OF MY FAV GROUPS!!
librastar88 1 month ago
I'm just glad all 6 took part in this.
DirtybirdGA 1 month ago
I hate to say it but Robbin looks like she has a case of the "witch mouth"...what happened to her teeth?!?! O_o
chrysalys85 1 month ago 8
@chrysalys85 It's a damn shame. We all need to donate a pair of dentures or implants to her. SMDH.
LAWoman323213 1 week ago
@chrysalys85 Some of these ladies really aged badly
JesseWorld1000 6 days ago
@chrysalys85 Does it matter? She's still fabulous!
JBMusicONLINE 2 days ago
this is so awsome that u got these episodes. can u put the barkays. i dont think nobody seen that. thank u . u the best and have the best channel.
dropsey31 1 month ago
Although their success and band was short lived. They are still the coldest female band of our time. You just didn't see an all female band with true and raw talent like that and could really bring it. Nice! I still like Klymaxx. I just hope they put aside all differences and the orginal members do a reunion tour or something. I wanna see if they can still bring it.
educatorpoet 1 month ago 4
great unsung episode, I learned a lot, thanks for posting
syckindahead 1 month ago
"Superbad-Parts 1 and 2!"- What yall know about that? Anyway,don't get me started about the lack of musicianship in "R&B",since the late 90s or so.Thank God,in the 80s,we had people like Prince & Teena Marie keeping it alive.But now its all about beats,instead of bands.
catperson73 2 months ago 2
@catperson73 I would reply but my auto-tune isn't working.
dkthg 1 month ago
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THIS all female band lasted no longer then 5 years..go to show a womans job is in the kitchen
dimpsey3 2 months ago
@dimpsey3 ahh shutup
IamDottieDandridge 2 months ago
@IamDottieDandridge shut dont go up.skirts do
dimpsey3 2 months ago
@IamDottieDandridge .lol
dimpsey3 1 month ago
@dimpsey3 shut up
Smithworks2 1 month ago
DAMN what happened to them..time was not good to theses women..they use to look good back in the day..i guess its true once a woman pass 30 shes down hill from there
dimpsey3 2 months ago
Cheryl, was wrong as hell!! She might have had good intentions, but you have to consult the leader, the whole group before you can take on the name. Now, that's where, Bernadette went wrong at-- she didn't get it owned.
KaishaLaSha83 2 months ago
Klymaxx will be thee only all girl band. EVER.
KaishaLaSha83 2 months ago
Male or female, when you hear the music, it makes you wonder why more new bands aren't out there
brentduanefoster 2 months ago 2
I know Robbin has a dental plan. How can you sit on Television with no teeth in your mouth.
NicoleH73 2 months ago
@NicoleH73 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL NAW I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!!!!!
513bassking 2 months ago
@513bassking lmao! I'm sorry, but there is no excuse for that. She could have gotten fitted with some partials or something. She knew she was going to be interviewed!
NicoleH73 2 months ago 2
@NicoleH73...ROFLLMAO...Why was I thinkin' the same thing. She must of did crack or something and smoked all of her teeth. Ooowee! She looks a mess. I mean you don't see not one tooth. WOW! Yet, Klymaxx was the bizness back in the day. This was so my era. I was about 13 or 14 years old when they stepped on the scene. Bernadette hair is still rockin' to me though. She was always the sassy one out that group and she could play the drums.
educatorpoet 1 month ago 4
Great story
7thyvonne 3 months ago
Oh, here we go again. Skipping the first 2 albums as if they never existed. Sorry but the first one is the best ("Never Underestimate.....").
ChannelBelongs2Scott 4 months ago
they didnt show the 2 songs from the last album..GoodLove and Divas need love too..i loved those joints 2 ...Loooooove Klymaxx always
nesoldier74 4 months ago
Cheryl still looks good.
tadowfromkc 4 months ago 2
Robbin looks like she's dip in some meth
smashingtimemod 5 months ago
@smashingtimemod She reminds me of a Wicked Witch with that big nose and her mouth ewwwwwww
Shandra9000mail 4 months ago
This was and is still the group!!!
TheEasyOne15 5 months ago
Joyce still looks hot. But what happened to Robbin?
Argee11 5 months ago
@Argee11 - You never lied there!!! Joyce was the hottest member of this band!!!
TheEasyOne15 5 months ago
That song I "I miss you"was huge and it was played in heavy rotation.
719kai719 5 months ago
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719kai719 5 months ago
Always loved Klymaxx..talented all girl band.. so cool.... Love"Meeting in the ladies room, The Men all Pause, Diva's need love too".etc
719kai719 5 months ago
Cont. SUGAHH, in the 80,s consisted of Bass, Keyboards, 2 Lead Guitars, Drummer, Sax and Flute, Sax and Percussions, 2 Lead Vocals different ranges, all FEMALE. We won the 1983 National Budwiser Showdown held at the Paldium in Los Angeles hosted by Lou, Rawls. It seemed like everywhere we performed a member of Klymaxx was there observing. That's what they were suppose to do, because we were on their tails, and we were GOOD!! Couldn't get a break from our Record Co. Polygram, so we faded.
tashapup8 5 months ago
I've read all the comments and I want to congratulate KLYMAXX for being a wonderful band in the 80's, and good competition. If you were to ask any member of klymaxx themselves, who were they concerned about the most during the time they were coming up and trying to get a hit, I know they would never admitt it in all honesty, but that would be SUGAHH. An all female 9 piece band based in Los Angeles. I was a member of this band, we played all over Los Angeles County and other Counties.
tashapup8 5 months ago
@tashapup8 Is some of the stuff from your band on youtube
jay2luv 4 months ago
I LOVED THIS GROUP AND THEIR HITS!!!
QueenHoneyBee1970 5 months ago
I love Unsung. But, that episode was like watching paint dry!
PTE1110 5 months ago 2
I was a young teenager the first time that I saw their video “The men all pause” on TV in the early 80’sand I remember saying in a state of transfix " All girl band playing musical instruments. I wanna be fierce like them". They came out with an attitude on stage, the clothes were edgy, the style was new nd sexy. I just changed my dress style and hairstyle just to be like Klymaxx. They are icons and they came with a style that was new and fresh. They should go down in music history.
Bizz2k 5 months ago
............AFB********ALL FEMALE BAND
the men all pause/meeting in the ladies room/I miss you.... you got 2 love it!
honeybeeyou 5 months ago
............AFB********ALL FEMALE BAND
the men all pause/meeting in the ladies room/I miss you.... you got love it!
honeybeeyou 5 months ago
WOW...When I was little I remember singing to "Meeting in the Ladies Room".
shynymoon 5 months ago in playlist TV One Online
they were some bad ass girls!!! I love I miss u!!!
maine11126 5 months ago
Great documentary of the group. I saw Klymaxx in concert with The Gap Band years ago and they took no prisoners with their show. After watching this I feel like its time for a Mary Jane Girls Unsung...80's Funk was nothing to play with.
ShyeNYC 5 months ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't HEART the FIRST female band???????
PopCulture20 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 ..I think they are referring to Klymaxx being the first maintsream female R&B band in which all members played instruments......... Heart actually had male members, actually at times it was mostly male (espcially early 70s) - Ann and Nacy were the only constants though as they basically were the 'face' of Heart and the most well known members.
daretosayit 5 months ago
@daretosayit Ohhhh I see now lol Thanks for clarifying because the whole time I was watching this, I was thinking ''People please get your facts right. Heart was the first all female band''
PopCulture20 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 -No prob. UnSung primarily deals with R&B/Soul/Funk artists and bands, so they did not specify what aspect of 'firsts' they were referring. Heart is not technically listed as a female band. It was first formed with all men under a different name, changed lineups (added one female named Debi until '71) and used the name White Heart, then just Heart in 1970-71 until 1972, when Ann joined (band changed to Hocus Pocus). Band used Heart again in '73'... Nancy joined in '74. Confusing!
daretosayit 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 ...I had to ask someone much older than I, and someone who had connections to the music industry (my friend was a sound engineer during the 60s and 70s - USA/Eur) according to my friend, some group named Goldie & the Gingerbreads were the first all-female rock band signed to a major record label, 1st signed to a label I've never heard of in 1963, and they were signed to Atlantic in 1964. I'm going to have to check them out, my friend is usually pretty good at this stuff...lol
daretosayit 5 months ago
@daretosayit Checkout wikipedia. It actually states that Goldie & the Gingerbreads were the 1st all-female rock band so your friend is absolutely right. Now all I have to know is who was the 1st female rapper signed to a major label lol
PopCulture20 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 ...really? So cool! I tend to ask him a lot of questions about groups/singers from yesteryear and he's worked with quite a few. The last album he worked on is Sade's current Soldier of Love album. .... I will ask about the female rapper, but he did not work with rappers - actually neither he nor I listen to rap, but he may be able to find out. It's late, but maybe I'll hceck with him this week, :-)
daretosayit 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 ..Have to tell you my friend cracked me up... I mentioned that you verified his info on Wiki and he said 'I don't care 'bout no WikOpeedYa!'..LOL as if he wanted to be the only person who knew the info. He said he worked with one of the girls whose last name was Ravan when she was with another band, and he knew of the signing of her previous group. Me? i'm just happy another source verified it because my friend isn't a spring chicken, but he knows a lot of behind the scenes stuff
daretosayit 5 months ago
@PopCulture20 Okay, asked my friend - who had no idea - he called up a friend he felt would perhaps know more. According to the gentleman asked, MC Lyte was actually the first hardcore female rapper (solo) who was signed to a major record label in '88. Though other female rappers released singles and/or albums they were not signed to a MAJOR label. He also threw in that someone by the name of Lady B was one of the first female hip-hop artists with a single called "To The Beat, Y'all" in 1979.
daretosayit 5 months ago
They all abandoned the group but three of them and the only reason the 3 left was bc they were dropped 4rm MCA. Cheryl is in the right + she tried to reunite them all . I bet the only reason three of them formed again was because Cheryl formed her new version of Klymaxx, and even though Bernadette is the founder of the group she lost claim when she was the first to leave bc if thats the case when she originally left she would have originally had a problem about the use of the name"Klymaxx".
Nu19Nu 5 months ago
Sorry jimmy and terry. As producers you should have known there were enough female bands they could have counted on one hand
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MysticMoodism 6 months ago
Robyn Grider looks like a recovering meth addict.
chuito6619 6 months ago 2
@chuito6619 yeah she looks fucked up...
DUGMAC1973 6 months ago
@chuito6619 Is she missing all her teeth? WTF happened to her! lawd
MysticMoodism 6 months ago
Ego - When it rears its ugly head - Game over......
DUGMAC1973 6 months ago 2
That is why it's very important to own your own catalog and not let the record company's own it.
FireitupBedford 6 months ago
Joyce Irby was a cutie
mraugustwalker 6 months ago
They may have been the first all female FUNK band, but they weren't the first all female band. The first all female band that I know of were The Runaways, which started in 1975.
FedExHumper 6 months ago
@FedExHumper no one said they were the first all girl band
clevawoman 3 weeks ago
at 56 thats the guy from Lakeside
GerardFreeman 6 months ago
Klymaxx rock back in the 80s!!
kay77764 6 months ago
" The Men All Pause" may have been their biggest hit, but without a doubt, "Divas Need Love Too" was hands down their best recording.
thejazzman210 6 months ago
@thejazzman210 Actually, "I Miss You" was their biggest hit. It went pop, adult contemporary and R&B, whereas "The Men All Pause" was only an R&B hit.
MyJunior1975 6 months ago 5
@MyJunior1975 Oh, okay. Thanx for the info.
thejazzman210 6 months ago
LOOKS LIKE ROBBIN SMOKED HER CAREER AWAY
kimasilv 6 months ago
KLYMAXX will always be one of my Favorites Female Groups
TheJKVW 6 months ago
has unsung done a documentary about the pointer sisters yet??
dutico 6 months ago
I liked a few of their songs ,etc. But this episode was not that good. Kinda boring.
DetroitLives313 6 months ago
No disrespect but what in the hell happen to Robbin ?
The1baddman 7 months ago 2
@The1baddman Crack.
rufus317 6 months ago
@The1baddman that is the REAL question. Her teeth are missing? Maybe she suffered a bad sickness or I don't know:(
canttouchthis421 6 months ago
Does anybody know the name of the song playing @ 9:35?????
mazzb305 7 months ago
I'm glad they're all still living....Girl Power!!
curligurlibabe 7 months ago
Where are her teeth.. ugh!
MsNatural26 7 months ago
wow. meeting in the ladies room... i miss you.. those were great songs..
grantr456 7 months ago
I wish they would have held it togther. Like Salt'n'Pepa, they're pioneers in their own right.
kdickson2000 7 months ago
Great Unsung episode! Fyi, TV One had the wrong year for the clip that begins at 40:18 from the VH1 show Bands Reunited. That aired in early 2004. I think it was taped in late '03.
mrberryv 7 months ago
LOL I never knew "I miss you" was done by the same group who'd done "Meeting in the Ladies Room"!
victoriaindigo 7 months ago
What about gospel groups, they tend to last longer than secular groups, for example, The Hawkins, Clark Sisters, Winans and Mary Mary
lorentat 7 months ago
@lorentat Those groups are also family too.
Bookworme95 7 months ago
@lorentat ... you just reminded me that the Clark Sisters have an UnSung. I never knew who they were until I watched the episode; I actually found it very interesting...now I'm going to have to see if I can find that episode to watch again.
daretosayit 5 months ago
they where playing rufus ft chaka's i'm a woman
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
look at popin taco strapped to that lol chair a legendary dancing pioneer
Shivante83 7 months ago
I don't know if anybody else has said this or not in the text comments section, but they got something WRONG in this documentary. The narrator said that Jam and Lewis (who I admire tremendously) "helped Prince to hone his sound". WTF? No. It was the other way around.
JunebugObama 7 months ago
@JunebugObama yes they where apart of the time, and they where invovled with prince so i would say they help prince hone his style.
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 No, Prince was a control freak when he produced other artists and groups like "The Time". He would write their songs for them and tell them what to do. He made ALL the creative and musical decisions. After Jam & Lewis left the Prince camp they were able to do their own thing, so it's inaccurate to say that they "helped Prince to hone his sound."
JunebugObama 7 months ago 3
@JunebugObama in context of what they said the time was prince's backing band so in a sense the kind of did help give orince his sound b/c w/o the band you have no sound
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@mjjcng8958 Prince composed and arranged every note they played and he dictated what they did on stage. Also, The Time was NOT Prince's backing band. Prince's band was called The Revolution. The Time was a separate act produced by Prince (ask your Mother to verify this). The Time also played in back of Vanity 6.
You obviously missed ALL of the 80s. You were not born when all of this was going on but I appreciate the fact that you listen to some of the older music.
JunebugObama 7 months ago 2
@JunebugObama Well actually, if you go further back to when they were in competing bands around MPLS, maybe Jimmy and Terry DID help Prince hone his sound. Maybe they all helped each other. Prince was just one of them, of course, who rocked every basic band instrument, but they all were honing their sound and I'm sure many around Prince were inspiring him into certain musical directions. All those guys were bouncing ideas back and forth competitively - Flyte Tyme, Champagne, etc.
- Gary
wendileona 6 months ago
Hold up..it wasn't Chyrl's fault she used the groups name because they left the group.
Greatersend 7 months ago
i mean grider lol
slick1hit 7 months ago
damn wheres robin ryder teeth
slick1hit 7 months ago 3
Are they gay...no dis.. just curious
3864267 8 months ago
As good as they were, even if they hadn't broken up their heyday was still gone. They and Mint Condition were the last of the true r&b "bands" before the record labels changed the landscape to give the producers all the power. Ever since the late 80s, the industry has preferred solo r&b artists to bands and has turned its back on r&b musicians and only allows them to be involved as session or touring players.
cathridge 8 months ago 2
@cathridge You mean when the music industry allowed thuggery and gangsta rap, sampling, etc. all that to offset or replace, for lack of a better word, no, supplant actual R&B, Soul, Funk musicians, right? Yeah, I remember that sad, sad turn of events oh so well.
wendileona 6 months ago
@wendileona Yup. That would be the era. Very sad indeed. There are a lot of talented r&b musicians today working crappy jobs they hate because of it while these hoodlums with no sense of art, manners or class get to ride in limousines and trash five star hotels. Because the music industry loves that these dopes are ignorant and easily duped out of their true royalties by just giving them worthless material things like flashy cars and jewelry.
cathridge 6 months ago 2
@cathridge Its interesting to note that this started to happen when artists like Prince started demanding their ownership of mastertapes and better royalties etc. Now, its all a controlled entertainment system. Even rock bands are manufactured.
From my perspective, a system where they can manufacture less talented in order for them to not have greater control of their contracts.
It gets messy and of course, there's society, it demands, they supply. If kids love thugs... they will get thugs.
wendileona 6 months ago
@wendileona Actually the artists that started all this was Ray Charles. Watch the movie "Ray" when Ray starting calling the shots when he went to ABC Records and starting to own his masters, publishing, recording studio & production company. Then Stevie Wonder was next, when he turned 21 and almost left Motown unless Berry Gordy give in Wonder's demands including owning his masters & publishing(Wonder is one of the rare artists that didn't get screwed by Gordy). Then Michael Jackson did in 91.
blachubear 6 months ago 3
@blachubear MJ did the same as Ray and Stevie in '91?
I stand corrected then. Those guys were smart and worked their talent as leverage, there was a confidence in that. Prince just got a deal he couldn't cope with after the fact many years later. Thru his career though, he was having problems w/WB in terms of editing down his albums controlling his fast pace, etc. Prince was about 19 and seriously hungry and didn't pay attention. Not sure new talent now does the same as Ray/Wonder though. THX!
wendileona 6 months ago
@wendileona oh wow really, we're back to blaming rappers again??...really??
Tishauna7 6 months ago 9
@Tishauna7 I was actually blaming the industry, if you read closely enough, but ultimately new audiences that were supporters of not rappers but THUGGERY and criminality demanded that type of "music". So the industry only supplied the demand because there was money to be made.
Instead of not really understanding what I said and easily questioning if I'm blaming "rappers", again, give me something to reasonably counter that. Tell me I'm not telling the truth.
- Gary
wendileona 6 months ago
@wendileona you are wrong..that wasn't the only type of music that was popular, by solely mentioning "gangsta rap" you are ignoring HUGE acts like arrested development, public enemy, a tribe called quest, de la soul etc etc...and believe it or not great records came from the gangsta rap sub-genre objectively speaking. but it was NOT the SOLE type of rap. further more black bands in general was shunned as far back as the 80's after disco died. long before gangsta rap was even created!!
Tishauna7 6 months ago 19
@Tishauna7 PE, TCQ, De La, those acts were buried and forgotten as soon as Gangsta rap was sold to you, the intended target audience at the time. Those other rap acts were actually moving, trying their best to create an alternative to the NWA's and LL Cools. PE was frighteningly powerful, a tsunami, and you and the intenended audience scrambled, in fact, entertainment scrambled! 'We cant give them that much power!'... lets glorify gang bangers... yeah...' Thus, what I call 'Sound-Crack'.
- G
wendileona 5 months ago
@wendileona i didn't scramble..i see choosing to like PE over NWA as a false dichotomy. i enjoyed both alternative rap AND gangsta rap. and people seem to forget arrested development outsold most gangsta rappers, likewise the fugees and later on Lauryn hill. besides- outside of dre, snoop, 2pac, and bone thugs gangsta rappers was never heavy sellers. plus alt rap lasted as long as gangsta rap up till the mid 90's. then "glam rap" became dominate.
Tishauna7 5 months ago 4
@Tishauna7 Black bands still existed but it was that the move was made to put efforts into Madonna's and white bands like Hairbands, but there was The Time and Prince were essentially Black bands working it. But song writing, musicianship in African American music was still flourishing up until the slow emergence of that other replacement.
wendileona 5 months ago
@wendileona ok then so it wasn't Hip Hop's fault. it was the industry's fault for shutting black bands out. it's not like hip-hop stopped the industry from promoting black rock/metal bands. that was because white AND black radio woin't play them. it's politics. and hip-hop was never immune either. by the turn of the millennium gangsta rap, political rap, alt rap (basically all the anti-establishment genre's) was persona non grata
Tishauna7 5 months ago 3
@Tishauna7 No such thing as anti-establishement music movements or genre's, big corporations, marketing, all that's behind such things.
Rage Against The Machine was on Epic Records - Epic Records is an American record label, owned by Sony Music Entertainment, which operates under the umbrella of the Epic Label Group.
Rebellion, thuggery, angry, aggression based music, exists because there's an audience, and trust me, they micro-focus group that audience like you would not believe.
wendileona 5 months ago
I don't fault Cooley for copyrighting the name. What she did is common practice 2 keep a band's name safe when a group disbands but no 1 is minding the store anymore. Because Klymaxx was a popular band, there was always a chance that they might have wanted 2 get back together again. Would hv been a shame if someone unrelated tried 2 assume ownership and use the name for their own personal gain. Since Cooley was the only one who still wanted 2 play, why shouldn't she be able to use it.
cathridge 8 months ago 2
@cathridge Co-sign! She knew her rights and caught on. It wasn't her fault the group left because of their egos. It sounded like they never liked each other from jump..especially that white lady. LOL
Greatersend 7 months ago
@Greatersend
"especially that white lady."
I think Lynn Malsby is hispanic.
MrJuly1990ish 6 months ago
@cathridge You know what, I never thought about it that way. You're right. Everyone bailed but her, so why shouldn't she trademark and use the name? Thanks for giving a different perspective on the situation.
Meela234 5 months ago
Life was hard on these women. It looks like they just gave up and started eating. smh
brajames1 8 months ago 2
the only other all-female band I can think of is The Bangles...am I missing anyone else?
tonoslim 8 months ago
@tonoslim other female bands are vixen, the go-go's, L7, the donnas, kitten, and of course the runaways. i have one myself called outlaw starr.
Tishauna7 8 months ago
@tonoslim The Go Gos were around before Klymaxx and more successful. The Runaways were actually the first all-female band to have success back in the mid 70s (there's a biopic of the same name that came out last year with Dakota Fanning and Kristen Stewart playing Cherie Curie and Joan Jett from the band) but they were nowhere as popular as The Go Gos or Klymaxx. . Klymaxx were the most successful all female r&b band.
cathridge 8 months ago
omg I didn't know they sang I Miss You I though it was a guy lmao! OMG I BIG up's to right here in NC Ms. Irby I never knew that. I don't think their third album was better than their first two. An LORD Robbin Grider doesn't have a tooth in her head lol she looks like somebodies grandmother. Maybe she partied to hard.
MrSexxxy20 8 months ago 2
@MrSexxxy20 She probably is someone's grandmother now. Or at least old enough to be. It was more than 20 years ago. LOL
MarcusHB2003 7 months ago
@MarcusHB2003 lmao
MrSexxxy20 7 months ago
WOW this is great, thanx for postin it.. man... WHO KNEW the whole time all of us were jammin and enjoyn these hitz while growin up as children and teenz of the 80z, that these talentd women would go thru such ordealz.. it has to be a group effort all the way or eventually you lose it all in the end and to me i feel like thatz what happend with klymaxx . i hope they all will reunite and set aside differencez to perform in tourz in the future.. really love this group. FEMALEZ ROCK!
40mbooh 8 months ago
LOVE YOUTUBE & UNSUNG!
rickames 8 months ago
why does bernadette sound like elmer fudd?
rodriguezagnes 9 months ago
Great upload!
Truth be told we only live once they all need to get back together and put it down as a unit because as a unit they are funky fresh in the flesh, dressed to impress- your highnesses!!
There's enough shine for everyone of those beautiful, talented, intelligent women to glow!!
IceManLikeGervin 9 months ago
Miss Cooley had EVERY RIGHT to trademark the name the rest of the girls bailed except the bass player.
gittahfiend 9 months ago
@gittahfiend I agree with you on that one. Unsung brought that to light. I remember watching the "reunion" of VH1 Bands Reunited and they made it look like Cheryl Cooley just stole the name the of the group. Unsung just exposed that Bernadette, Joyce and Lynn were the ones that first abandoned the group. I will always love Klymaxx, but sadly they have no one to blame but themselves for what happened. I hope they eventually work it out.
lifesaver72 8 months ago
Cheryl did the right thing but she should have contacted the group members to inform them being that Bernadette is the founder of the group
MUSICENCYLOPEDIA 9 months ago
i love these unsung episodes thanks a lot for uploading
nicklong1981 9 months ago
@nicklong1981 i do too.i dont have cable anymore so im glad i can watch it on here
keonta81 8 months ago
Thanks for posting. On the Vh1 special they made Cheryl look like a snake in the grass. When really Bernadette abandon the group. Name and all. I guess as time passed they realized what a mistake they've made. They should be glad Cheryl the original member held on to the name and not a crooked record producer they don't know owning the rights or they wouldn't be able to use Klymaxx at all. I do wonder if Cheryl ever tried to call them.
Hunni 9 months ago 11
@Hunni The issue was addressed on Bands Reunited. Cheryl wanted to reform but Bernadette was working on other projects at the time so Cheryl decided to get owner ship of the name and form her version of the group saying they were the original group. Cheryl neve contacted the original members to tell them about applying for the name. Now they each own the name with the Bernadetted, Joyce and Lorena perform as Kylmaxx while Cheryl performs with her own band
MUSICENCYLOPEDIA 9 months ago
thanx 4 posting cablevision don't have tvone
LEONLAMONT1974 9 months ago
THANKS FOR POSTING
photoholicflix 9 months ago
They could have went far they ruin their own career with greed.
VenusRify 9 months ago
What happened to Robbin Grider she still looks good for her age though
jnorman0611 9 months ago
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jnorman0611 9 months ago
It's completely amazing how much of a dysfunctional wreck a lot of these people are.
Independence is like religion or medicine, it'sgreat in measured doses, however, in overdose it's pure poison!
Four generations of women haven't been able to figure this simple fact out thus far.
pc0p1mp 10 months ago 2
Unstable!!!
pc0p1mp 10 months ago
what happened to klymaxx is pretty typical of bands. very rarely do they endure for too long. remember all of those bands from the 80's and 90's? They all basically burned out primarily because they couldn't stand each other anymore, not to mention all of the industry politics involved.
Tishauna7 10 months ago 14