moonie was fucked... at 3:10 he thinks that's the stop... then hits the snare after the actual stop. it's terrible compared to '71 moonie. no one will ever touch moonie in his prime.
no its called a sinceniser (I don't knoe how to spell it) It ams used a lot by musicians in the 70's the who's most famous sinceniser tracks by pete townshend are baba o'riley and won't get fooled again both great songs
Actually he used a little grandma organ called a Lowery Berkshire TBO-1 that had a button on it called "Marimba Repeat" and that is where the entire keyboard section was derived for this song.
Questions of drum overdubs, hired fill in drummers, etc.led me to this TheHypertextWho web page "According to eyewitnesses, The Who returned the next day to film extra footage of the lasers section of WGFA. It is believed that the film version is made up of pieces of both performances while the soundtrack version is of only one. Keith also went into the recording studio shortly before his death to play some new drum parts that were dubbed over sections of his performance here"
Its been widely reported that there was some slick editing etc. to make Keiths performance look more polished then it really was. Finally seeing him play without cut aways was interesting. How though can anyone say that this was "The Who at their best"? Have these people not seen footage of the Who in 69, 70, 74, 75 and 76? With Keih Moon playing slow and labored drums the Who were like a car going uphill and losing compression.
From what I understand there were minor dubs made at the sound recording stage when the film was in post production. Keith is playing a lot of what you see on Baba, it was mostly on WGFA where the overdubs are...after all it is a much more demanding track.
it seems to me that on the video, keith moon is playing exactly what we can hear, i find no difference between what I see and the sound of the drums.. I'm not sure it was a recording, I think it is really keith's playing
i don't recall that at all. I remember him saying that Keith was such a slug from partying that it took him two weeks to get his speed and energy back. . .
On the "Kids Are Alright" movie, Keith is not really playing the drums. It's a studio fill in. However I think in the "Live at Kilburn" DVD I think the drumming is the actual drumming in the concert.
@atgskater14 I dunno man - let's find a link that verifies your claim. As @ChroniclesOfSpring and others mention (I think rightly), what we *hear* is exactly what we *see* Keith do in the video - for instance at 03:10. Would not a sessionist play over the mistake, while the video editor cuts away from the drums to complete the illusion? As a musician, an editor, and as someone who has seen the movie multiple times - I see no evidence to support the "sessionist" theory re: Keith. Sorry!
That being said I DO remember some talk of John re-doing some of his own basslines for the film remaster. But just getting some sessionist to replace John's or Keith's parts - it's sacrilege!
I know I have found a video where roger in an interview admits that the drumming on "The Kids Are Alright" movie is studio I'll try to find it for you.
@atgskater14 Hey man, that would be awesome & thanks. If you found the video I would gladly stand corrected! I appreciate new information and hey, I wasn't there in '78 so I really can't know for sure. Hope to hear from ya & take care. :)
Ok for some reason it is not letting me put the link address in this comment however the video that varafies my claim can be found if you type in "Keith Moon Bio" into the search bar and then click on Keith Moon Bio 6, and it is not roger who says this it is the narrator
@atgskater14 I found this video, thanks. The narrator says: "The sound on this film is not Keith's live performance. It is a recording made later in the studio". There is no mention of a session man. I researched this further and found a very interesting passage from Chapter 38 of "Dear Boy: The Life of Keith Moon" (by Tony Fletcher, 2010). I have posted this excerpt to the Video Description so click above to read it! So, as they say - this Myth is Busted.
@atgskater14 perhaps what you guys are mixing up is... NOT Baba... but rather, in WGFAgain, the solo at the end was redone. And that is it. Not the entire song or anything... JUST the solo at the end. If you watch the different camera angles, you'll see that they aren't all the same compared to the 'movie' edited version. Either way, this is him doing the real drums here, and for 99% of the WGFA video as well.
@kaye789 This Myth is Busted - there was no session man. For more information on this, check out Chapter 38 of "Dear Boy: The Life of Keith Moon" (by Tony Fletcher, 2010). Or to read an excerpt regarding drum overdubs, just open the Video Description in the above video. I hope this puts this rumor to rest.
brilliant! makes for terrific viewing. though i barely glanced at the top-left square - which you could replace with a still of Entwhistle and still lose nothing.
awsome, this song is amazing,,,,, i love it
akademozeppelion68 11 months ago
kicking the hiwatt :O
VarykGerai 1 year ago
moonie was fucked... at 3:10 he thinks that's the stop... then hits the snare after the actual stop. it's terrible compared to '71 moonie. no one will ever touch moonie in his prime.
ChroniclesOfSpring 1 year ago 4
Shit! Did they nick the beginning off Terry Riley or some other minimalist composer. I wish I had the vocal of Mr Daltrey.
drstirling 2 years ago 2
@drstirling Not nicked. Influenced. Baba O'Riley - Terry Riley. Not a coincidence
gocartmozart 1 year ago
They're all WASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Schmok425 2 years ago 2
damn! lol pete pwned that stack
Thel3rian 2 years ago 4
I love this
rugbyman871 2 years ago 2
@3:16 - I never before realized that Keith actually missed a couple queues. He stops too soon, then almost keeps going....
Brilliant vid (Keith IS God).
unioncitymusic 2 years ago 2
is that keith moon doing what souds like keyboards on his drum set.
louieguitarist 2 years ago
no its called a sinceniser (I don't knoe how to spell it) It ams used a lot by musicians in the 70's the who's most famous sinceniser tracks by pete townshend are baba o'riley and won't get fooled again both great songs
juanetojones 2 years ago
"Synthesizer"
sebasredspecialfan 2 years ago 3
yeah that, thank you
juanetojones 2 years ago 2
Actually he used a little grandma organ called a Lowery Berkshire TBO-1 that had a button on it called "Marimba Repeat" and that is where the entire keyboard section was derived for this song.
deadbeatdad 2 years ago 3
I'm not very shure about that, I got a video about baba o'rielly and it sais they used a synthesizer. If you whant to see it I have it in my channel
juanetojones 2 years ago 2
well technically Enstwistle was the time keeper and Moon would do his own thing as a filler like a keyboardist
Traductus5972 2 years ago 2
the tick thing is called a tamberine pete is playing
PETEtownsend19 2 years ago
I heard they had to re-do this song a few times? Correct? It's my favorite performance of this song. Rogers voice is spot on.
hoganfader 2 years ago
The Tick, the thing Keith Moon is doing before the song's drums actually start. He's marque'ing the meter.
DocAnchovy 3 years ago
Questions of drum overdubs, hired fill in drummers, etc.led me to this TheHypertextWho web page "According to eyewitnesses, The Who returned the next day to film extra footage of the lasers section of WGFA. It is believed that the film version is made up of pieces of both performances while the soundtrack version is of only one. Keith also went into the recording studio shortly before his death to play some new drum parts that were dubbed over sections of his performance here"
Cooleemee43 3 years ago
Its been widely reported that there was some slick editing etc. to make Keiths performance look more polished then it really was. Finally seeing him play without cut aways was interesting. How though can anyone say that this was "The Who at their best"? Have these people not seen footage of the Who in 69, 70, 74, 75 and 76? With Keih Moon playing slow and labored drums the Who were like a car going uphill and losing compression.
Cooleemee43 3 years ago
Amazing video! It really ties it all together, this performance, as if you were there!
taclas1 3 years ago
you guys are dumb if u think this isnt keith playin?
are u on fuckin glue
koss41 3 years ago
From what I understand there were minor dubs made at the sound recording stage when the film was in post production. Keith is playing a lot of what you see on Baba, it was mostly on WGFA where the overdubs are...after all it is a much more demanding track.
garethnh 3 years ago
The Loon is really playing.
RockRampage74 3 years ago 4
it seems to me that on the video, keith moon is playing exactly what we can hear, i find no difference between what I see and the sound of the drums.. I'm not sure it was a recording, I think it is really keith's playing
punkrock987 3 years ago 4
Entwistle was in command during this great performance.
biff0101 3 years ago 2
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this was keiths last show and he played the notes all wrong so the drumming is actually a recording
abuseforapie 3 years ago
Your one dumb fuck.
Keith is God, your small and pathetic.
drummerhere 3 years ago 2
This Is The Best Song Of all Time!!!!!!!BEST BAND OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!
jodhyt 3 years ago 4
This was the first Who concert i was at, i also went to see them in ireland on their european tour in 07.
respectthegun1 3 years ago 4
Again, The Who at their best.
ZachValkyrie 3 years ago 4
on disk 2 on the kids are allright roger tells you he wasnt realy playing the drums he was to drunk they got a session man to fill for him
kaye789 4 years ago
i don't recall that at all. I remember him saying that Keith was such a slug from partying that it took him two weeks to get his speed and energy back. . .
DaveDaranjo 4 years ago
@DaveDaranjo
On the "Kids Are Alright" movie, Keith is not really playing the drums. It's a studio fill in. However I think in the "Live at Kilburn" DVD I think the drumming is the actual drumming in the concert.
atgskater14 1 year ago
@atgskater14 I dunno man - let's find a link that verifies your claim. As @ChroniclesOfSpring and others mention (I think rightly), what we *hear* is exactly what we *see* Keith do in the video - for instance at 03:10. Would not a sessionist play over the mistake, while the video editor cuts away from the drums to complete the illusion? As a musician, an editor, and as someone who has seen the movie multiple times - I see no evidence to support the "sessionist" theory re: Keith. Sorry!
DaveDaranjo 1 year ago
That being said I DO remember some talk of John re-doing some of his own basslines for the film remaster. But just getting some sessionist to replace John's or Keith's parts - it's sacrilege!
DaveDaranjo 1 year ago
@DaveDaranjo
I know I have found a video where roger in an interview admits that the drumming on "The Kids Are Alright" movie is studio I'll try to find it for you.
atgskater14 1 year ago
@atgskater14 Hey man, that would be awesome & thanks. If you found the video I would gladly stand corrected! I appreciate new information and hey, I wasn't there in '78 so I really can't know for sure. Hope to hear from ya & take care. :)
DaveDaranjo 1 year ago
@DaveDaranjo
Ok for some reason it is not letting me put the link address in this comment however the video that varafies my claim can be found if you type in "Keith Moon Bio" into the search bar and then click on Keith Moon Bio 6, and it is not roger who says this it is the narrator
atgskater14 1 year ago
@atgskater14 I found this video, thanks. The narrator says: "The sound on this film is not Keith's live performance. It is a recording made later in the studio". There is no mention of a session man. I researched this further and found a very interesting passage from Chapter 38 of "Dear Boy: The Life of Keith Moon" (by Tony Fletcher, 2010). I have posted this excerpt to the Video Description so click above to read it! So, as they say - this Myth is Busted.
DaveDaranjo 1 year ago
@DaveDaranjo
I never said a session man covered for keith but thanks for the message,
atgskater14 1 year ago
@atgskater14 perhaps what you guys are mixing up is... NOT Baba... but rather, in WGFAgain, the solo at the end was redone. And that is it. Not the entire song or anything... JUST the solo at the end. If you watch the different camera angles, you'll see that they aren't all the same compared to the 'movie' edited version. Either way, this is him doing the real drums here, and for 99% of the WGFA video as well.
slotwinski1414 1 year ago
@kaye789 This Myth is Busted - there was no session man. For more information on this, check out Chapter 38 of "Dear Boy: The Life of Keith Moon" (by Tony Fletcher, 2010). Or to read an excerpt regarding drum overdubs, just open the Video Description in the above video. I hope this puts this rumor to rest.
DaveDaranjo 1 year ago
i really love keith moon
margieox 4 years ago 9
Keith Moon made a mistake at 3.12
fastrelief 4 years ago
what did he do?
kaye789 4 years ago 3
He didnt hit the snare drum. And after that he hits it but shouldnt.
li4m 3 years ago
I know this is great music, but do you guys have to pick at it? Just listen and enjoy.
matacoz 3 years ago
this video is asomb, is excelent, but this video in particular is extremly amazing.
wenselao 4 years ago
Great editing. Very well done. This is definitely on my favourites.
Gothic1982 4 years ago
haha look at keith acting like he is playing the drums at the beginning
thewho6507 4 years ago
It's called, "a tick".
DocAnchovy 3 years ago
brilliant! makes for terrific viewing. though i barely glanced at the top-left square - which you could replace with a still of Entwhistle and still lose nothing.
cooliosid 4 years ago
it's true about entwistle. However, if you watch the isolated footage of just him - it IS rather fascinating.
pejamo 4 years ago
I rather like how Entwistle somberly walks onto the stage. . . .
DaveDaranjo 4 years ago