IBEW "Dare To Compare"

[albduke1]

Pinko ibew

bend conduit till your blue in the face.should be called steel benders union

[MegaKirk89]

Yeah join the Union and have fun being laid off and broke.

[supremeunited]

Go get a real education kids! My dad was an I.B.E.W electrician and I quit 2 years into my apprenticeship when I realized that I would never want to do this for the rest of my life. Way too much B.S. Well at least I didn't work for a non-union shop - those guys are just miserable for the rest of their lives.

[georgeisupset]

yeah, join IBEW and get your 5 yr apprenticeship training in 8 yrs!

[Doug19752533]

i am a proud IBEW member, but i do have to disagree with them saying the ABC and IEC are poor apprenticeships. i went through IEC and my instruction was very good and in depth. first year was all basic theory, and residential applications. second year was trigonometry, print reading, in depth AC theory, third year was motor control and low voltage systems, and fourth year tied it all together with prep for the state journeyman exam (and plenty of code each year).

[lj33p]

@Doug19752533 IBEW too. I volunteered one Christmas season for the hall. All they kept saying was " If the reporter talks to you, it's IBEW, IBEW". I never volunteered again. I do HFH volunteering, but I'll never wear an IBEW shirt. I do it because I have the time, and I have the skill, and someone needs my help. I won't do it to support the illusion that we can do no wrong, or the IBEW is the end all in electrical work. Shame my leaders can't understand this.

[EDKsurly]

haters gunna hate on ibew...

[UnionMadeInUSA]

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[bigmoney127]

The IBEW= KKK racist motherfuckers!!!!! fuck you!!!!

[Goob4472]

ROGER LASH FOR BUSINESS AGENT!

[MonsterBloodX19]

Have fun trying to retire rats

[remmyjable]

@MonsterBloodX19 Have fun working with drug addicts.

[mhazelto79]

@remmyjable I get a kick out of your ignorant comments fag. Unlike rat contractors we get drugtests and have to be dot complient. Your the crackhead.

[Blobsterss]

"I qualified for an interview and showed up nicely dressed, and received my "sorry, we chose other candidates" letter in the mail a few weeks later."

They detected your bad attitude at the interview. I'd work with a 18 yr old apprentice with a good attitude over a college grad with a bad attitude any day. Our job is not rocket science, we want good people in our union who are easy to get along with.

[pjselec]

The training that is provided in the union is top notch,BUT If you are the best pipe bender you will always be installing pipe. The diveristy of ibew electrcicians leave allot to be desired. I've worked with electricians from union & non union. The training is only good when its applied. The best profesional is 1 that is able to excell at all aspects of the trade. From outlets,to 3000 amp gear,Generator installs to fire alarm systems. The more exposure to these systems makes a better tradesman.

[maxrocks1]

@pjselec This is not true. I am an IBEW apprentice and our local is really into moving apprentices (and even journeymen when necessary) around to get them proper training on everything. I've heard of Journeymen getting sent back to the hall from jobsites for not being able to bend pipe, then getting sent right back with the employer told to teach them how to bend pipe effectively. Beats the hell out of "training" from scab contractors.

[pjselec]

Maxrocks1-You need to read my 1st sentence in my comment. To the apprentice who is still learning the trade. I've been in the trade since 1982. I hold my journeyman's & Master electrical license. I've worked with union & non-union tradesman. I just want to say that we are all profesionals in the work we do. weather the tradesman is union or not. You should remember that! The electrical trade is very diverse. The more you know, the more interesting the work is. Thanks for getting into the trade.

[SomewhatStaid]

I guess I'll decide how I feel about IBEW's hiring practices after I see whether I get selected as an apprentice this year. But the union job itself? Sounds like as good a deal as you can get.

[MegaBdawk20]

I've seen better things come out of my butt than the ibew. Non-union rules.

[jalley914]

i guess you are a low wage no benfit having scab who would like nothing more then to drag everyones conditions down so your boss can buy himself another house while you eat bologna you must love him very much i bet you would s his d you scab

[MegaBdawk20]

wow this is how i compare. Take an ibew journeyman and compare him to a wal-mart greeter. wait that is an insult to the wal-mart greeter.

[katoomrp]

UNION TILL I DIE, have fun retiring scabs

[TheLegendofRyo]

Im just happy being a Union IBEW member, i like the people there , we dont do scumbags, i like having HUMAN RIGHTS and not dealing with corporate pieces of shit and SCABS. I hate scabs, especially organized scab crossovers, ROTATE YOUR SHOP RATS!!!!

[electropentatonic]

Local 413. Complain all you want. The journeyman I work under want to train me and are qualified to teach me and send me into the next year with the knowledge that will allow me to hold my own do my brothers proud. I worked in a non union outfit for 4 years before being organized. The level of education is undescribable compared to the only work exp i got from non union shops.

[baberuthistheman]

The only way to fight Coporate Greed and Non Union owners is to band together as a Union !

[remmyjable]

Unions, especially IBEW, only hire on crackheads and ex-cons these days. Easier to brainwash I suppose.

[Blobsterss]

@remmyjable

Bitter you were not selected into the best apprenticeship on this planet?  Tough luck. You were not selected because you can not hack it.

[remmyjable]

@Blobsterss The "best apprenticeship on the planet" is with UA, not IBEW. In recent years, IBEW has been known to organize in a multitude of hoods and ex-convicts, which has severely depleted their talent pool. I was accepted to UA as a third-year HVAC fitter/mechanic apprentice based upon my prior education. Therefore, your "bad attitude" and "can not hack it" conjecture does not hold water.

[gyneman]

@remmyjable fitters don't have an education. let alone a "prior education."

IBEW Local252!

[baberuthistheman]

I work for a corporation . . and they FUCK us over !.. they're laying us off and sending everything overseas ! .

Non Union people basically do the same shit ! . .they employee bottom of the barrell shit heads and pay them shit !

And there employees walk around with a bloated head thinking hey . .I got two weeks paid vacation , and basic health insurance . .BUT YOUR GETTING PAID SHIT

[remmyjable]

You're better off getting an engineering degree and designing the f*cking systems. At least you'll have a desk job and won't have to work with drug addicts all day.

[SomewhatStaid]

Spoken like a man whose never had to work both and compare. Working with your hands beats the fuck out of a desk job any day. And with IBEW you make plenty of money doing it. I wish my factory's union were half this good.

[mhazelto79]

@remmyjable You must be a crackhead or something. Or maybe just a retarded asshole. Get a life kid.

[Russ0257821]

@remmyjable Engineers are one of the most common jobs that are outsourced today. And a degree doesn't guarantee any specific job. IBEW members are drug tested regularly.

[remmyjable]

LOL.

You'll never get into IBEW unless you're somebody's brother-in-law or a crackhead.

I have an AS in Electrical Technology, an AS in HVAC Technology, and I scored near perfect on the aptitude test. I qualified for an interview and showed up nicely dressed, and received my "sorry, we chose other candidates" letter in the mail a few weeks later.

You should see some of the tattooed dumbasses they let into IBEW. Labor unions will be an antiquity soon anyway.

[jalley914]

well aparently you shouldnt have wasted your time dicking around in college and chose what you wanted to do right off the bat what are you doing now working for the scabs and eating cheese for dinner

[remmyjable]

@jalley914

Judging by your inane rambling and lack of punctuation, you likely never finished grammar school. You're perfect IBEW material. Good luck!

[mhazelto79]

@remmyjable I didnt know a fucken person when i got in the apprentiship.Say what you want but I have made over 100,000 the last 4 years building powerlines. And It just sounds like your jelouse.Along with another 25% a year of that in my retirement. I also have a college degree dickhead. Its easy for a pussy like you to sit there behind your computer and talk shit about something you were too stupid to get accepted in. Get a life you rat bastard!! Ibew local 53.

[mhazelto79]

@remmyjable I didnt know a fucken person when i got in the apprentiship.Say what you want but I have made over 100,000 a year the last 4 years building powerlines. And It just sounds like your jelouse.Along with another 25% a year of that in my retirement. I also have a college degree dickhead. Its easy for a pussy like you to sit there behind your computer and talk shit about something you were too stupid to get accepted in. Get a life you rat bastard!! Ibew local 53.

[Russ0257821]

@remmyjable I disagree. I don't have any friends or relatives who are IBEW/electricians/ or even in the construction industry, nor am I a crackhead, nor do I have tattoos, nor am i a dumbass. They let me in because I bust my ass and am willing to learn.

[Anticept]

@remmyjable It depends on which JATC. Each local is self-governed, and so are their JATCs. Some are phenominal, others are ok, but there will always be those that are garbage.

[bossou5555]

frist ,I love my trade and ibew people i have worked with,I just dont understand why we are treated like temp workers.i have been out of the trade 12 years,( concrete inds) and i see my friends still bouncing around.sometime you have to let your frist love go.

[nero8289]

I am wateing to take my apprenticeship test. Any one have some good advice?

[TDoeful]

I take mine in the morning and I checked out algebra and reading comprehension books from the library to study.

[chrispycritter2]

Local 570 here. Rat electricians get no training in high voltage, 4160. They only know romex and mc cable and cant bend pipe for shit! Lets see a rat bend an offset in 4" rigid!

[thompsfloyd]

that is a silly and sweeping false statement.

[migraine516]

LU 25 here. Wasaaaaaaap !!

[410flow]

UNION YES..IBEW LU#24

[111robocop111]

Wanna see the results of the union. Look at GM's stock. Way to go guys! Merit shop: get promoted by way of working hard instead of senority. I know there are some union brothers out there that work with a guy that doesn't do any thing. But they can't get rid of him. THAT guy would never last in a merit shop.

[harrylongenbaugh]

union shops are merit based. senority is definitely something thats been abused. but the true intention of senority was protect the worker that sacrificed body and sometimes their life in the belief that they 'paid their dues'. If you have the fortune to be 60 years old and still working thank the younger worker who does the heavy lifting and allows you to do the less strenuous job. thats the true protection of union members 'watching your back' good luck with that in your 'merit' shop

ibew 6

[wudy201]

unions will be a thing of the past. they price themselves out of the market then damage jobsites when they dont get jobs. real smart that leaves a good impression for the next job. willow grove pa ive experienced them assholes first hand and there lucky cops showed up because 2" emt was about to start swinging. hopefully all unions aint like that but philly union and new jersey unions are

[vengencemonger]

QWhen unions become a thing of the past, the prevailing wage jobs go with them. And so does all of the other things that otrganized labor has fought for. Labor will resemble the conditions of the 3rd world.

[scummieboi247]

exactly.. IBEW Local 134!!!!!!!!!

[wudy201]

non union is the way to go for me. $35/hr, company paid cordless kit/chicagobender/ generator, circuit tracer, company paid insurance, got personal and sick days that roll over each year, and vacation, never drive my personal car. i do prevailing wage all year long in schools and colleges, i would never go union from my experience they spend more time pickiting non union jobs that they lost(comercial builders have told us there way to demanding and overpriced) that they obviously dont have work

[balor7]

thank the unions for your wage. your making 35$ because your wage is dictated by the union wage. what do think will happen when union wages go down?

[pookyboy9786]

if you are non union, thats fine. but don't be bashing us union brothers. you try to work in chicago non union, you better pack your bags, because the only work your gonna find is houses. plus i make 40.00 an hour, and have great benifits. local 134 chicago

[seanfeick]

cont'd "here is the pipe, here is the wire, go install it" is what they get at work. i get to practice the trade and figure out my own work as a non union apprentice.  union made with pride? how can you take pride in taking orders all day. i take pride in knowing i am the one who figured out the installation start to finish.

[bitchdog77]

Figured it out yourself? Well good for you kid!There is only one problem.You need to be taught the right way.One mistake could mean the end of your life.If you are left to figure it out yourself you are not getting proper training.There shouldnt be any guess work in electric, or it can become fatal.I am a JATC Graduate and feel confident I everything I do.But I also have the skill and knowledge to install electric work in a safe and professional manner.

[bitchdog77]

I have worked with Organized non union electricians and realized they are not very well rounded and install shitty work.If you like working non-union then stay there,but you need to be educated.Learn your trade and you can go anywhere and work.The non-union Contractors only care about the money.They could give a shit if you learn or not.Dont get brainwashed and let the non-union fill you full of lies.

[bamertide]

As a non union electrician, I have to agree with bitchdog's last comment to some extent. There are some shoddy electricians that just throw it up, and do not care if duct work, gas lines or plumbing is going down that run also. That cost more time and labor to demo it, and run it again. It also can cause material wasted. I respect the IBEW's training of their electricians. But there are a ton of well trained, safe non union electricians that are skilled as good or better than a union electrician

[derrike50]

I wouldn't there are a "ton" of them, but there are a select few skilled non union electricians

[derrike50]

That's why a great portion of the non union pipe work looks like someone threw up on a wall. Like B dog said you need to be taught the skill and given the knowledge by a skilled person; and to the work safely with pride and that is what the union is all about. DON'T KNOCK IT UNTIL YOU'VE TRIED IT!! Ask your organized friends and they will tell you the truth.

[seanfeick]

im a non union apprentice. im glad to do my apprenticeship in a non-union manner.  i dont know how the training is done in the states, but in canada (where i live) non-union, and union apprentices go to school together. from my experiences so far, the union apprentices have no concern or or want to actually understand the trade. when it comes to conduit fill, conduit sizing, conductor rating, they simply dont care because they dont need to know and understand it.

[UnionProud06]

Union is the only way to go. Non union can't match the wages, insurance, and pension benefits that you get with the IBEW.