@vagabondsteve true thanks for the response! I tend to think people need to relax and just be for once. I do like the balance / wisdom found in the desiderata.
Thank you for the video. Your analysis of perfectionism and controlling behavior is right on. I am working on it myself, and this video is encouraging.
you're right about your personality developing in a certain direction because of external factors and people. The thing though is learning to just sit with it, with the you that you have become. No effort involved. This reminded me of your life sucks video. I think tying the two together is a good idea. You may not like the you you have become, but that's you. Acceptance of that, true acceptance, has to come before any true change can occur. if one accepts themselves there's no more to do.
@Karch101 Would this philosophy apply to someone who steals, does drugs, cheats on their spouse? It's not that black or white. Not accepting the person we have become can be the impetus to change.
@vagabondsteve I would say that the opposite of accepting yourself is denying yourself or being in denial about who you are. If you accept who you think you are, then you can say i want to make some adjustments. I don't like saying "you" in a sense of the totality of a person because that's never understood by anybody. If you wish to stop cheating on your wife then you can stop. But first you have be vulnerable and say either "i like this" or "i don't like this."
@vagabondsteve I also made the original comment when i was feeling very stagnant and hopeless and thought it would be better to accept the displeasure because it is natural for many people. I've changed my view. The idea of "you" is a concept. All we can really do is tweak our perception of ourselves. We can however identify what we want and feel. I think the identification process is more valuable initially than the changing process.
There's a great quote from this movie called, Revolver: "In every game and con there is always an opponent and there is always a victim. The more control the victim thinks he has, the less control he actually has. Gradually he will hang himself. I, as the opponent, just help him along." -- Now, they're talking about chess, but I've learned from my personal experience that chess is a lot like life, and the lessons of chess actually transcend the board. Just know that the opponent is always YOU.
@tonyfalca This really doesn't make practical sense to me. Most victims don't feel they have any control. For example someone who gets robbed, scammed, or raped. Could you please elaborate with some real world examples.
@vagabondsteve I think what it means is that, you can become a victim unknowingly. In other words, you'll hang yourself gradually by thinking that you've got everything figured out or under control. When you think you know better, you'll know worse. I don't believe the quote is referring to (f)actual victimization, but rather the victimization of one's self by one's self. Does that make sense to you..? Again, this is only my interpretation.
Personally, I feel as if most everything we do could be considered a distraction. We work, we have routines, etc, to avoid thinking or contemplating over our life and our behavior. Also, it seems that, if we don't overcome our 'problems'/bullshit/preconditioning, more times than not we'll pass it on, usually to the next generation. I think that's why our world's so shitty, is because so many people in the past, and even in the present day, avoid dealing with their shit, and therefore project it
@tonyfalca The blame game perpetuates victim mentality. Victims stagnate in their misery. What makes the world shitty? I've met some very poor people with hard lives who don't think the world is shitty. This quote is hard to swallow, "life is neutral but our thinking makes it good or bad". Identification with thought causes our suffering. One of the happiest men I've met has no arms or legs. Joy is not what happens in the world but inside our heads.
@vagabondsteve When I called the world shitty, I meant the world would be better off without war, violence, famine, oppression, and et cetera. But yeah, I've met a few older people in a my life time, and you can tell right away that they haven't dealt with something, whatever that may be, and without a doubt they'll be passing on their shit to future generations, down the family tree, so to speak.
After experiencing what I have, frankly, I believe freewill is earned (even though nobody, but yourself, is preventing one's own freewill)... I think life is all about overcoming the conditioning we're subjected to as children, and as you overcome the conditioning (or all the unconscious behavior/reactions/etc.) is when one really begins to experience freedom/freewill. Very, very few people in this world truly know, and experience, freewill... seriously.
@tonyfalca What happens to us as children only exist as memories. Truly there is nothing to overcome. People instinctively resist this because they are attached to their story. The story we tell ourselves is what causes us to suffer. Freedom comes when we release attachment to our story. Thank you for all your comments. It really helps add to the discussion.
@vagabondsteve I'm not talking so much about narratives, but you're right about that. I'm talking more so about overcoming conditioned behavior, reacting or responding to certain situations or stimuli unconsciously, and freedom from these sorts of things. I'm glad I could help in some way. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I find these topics beyond intriguing.
@tonyfalca You are so right about conditioned behavior. It's so deeply ingrained within us. Baggage which we carry into adulthood. How do you think one overcomes this conditioned behavior? Thank you for expanding upon your comments.
@vagabondsteve Well, of course it all begins with awareness, however, it gets tricky beyond that. I mean you gotta want to change, and you need a reason, a good reason. For me personally, very often back in the day, I used to lash out at people uncontrollably in rage. That was an unconscious response of mine, a conditioned behavior, so to speak. Honestly, the aftereffects took their toll eventually, those which probably triggered my desire for change, and it grew (--continued)
@tonyfalca (--continued) from there. I put two and two together, I guess, and realized that I was simply projecting my shit unfairly onto others. Likewise, the only way I could facilitate ongoing change, overcoming such behavior, was to see it all as a process. The work never ends, but it gets easier and easier everyday. It rarely happens now, and it's totally worth it. I hope I didn't get too far offtrack.. lol
Hey there, I am loving your videos, I am going to post a video response so you can see what I'm posting - something similar. It's also great to see you grow in your videos!
Hi Steve! Thanks for the video,some day i will make a video response so we talk face to face.ha ha! I think we adapt very quick,when we move out of the confort zone we start expanding the confort zone,so to live a rich life we need trick our mind not given ourself the time to adapt.what do you think?>best wishes for you!Roberto
We certainly need more freedom from all this new age bondage conditioning stuff going on right now. Do you believe man has a built in spiritual side? I tend to think we do."keep peace with god whatever you conceive him to be"--desiderata.
You talked about "sitting with the discomfort." I enjoy practicing this from time to time. For example, just today, I was at the gym and this super hot chick started walking on the treadmill right next to me. My first reaction was to get off my treadmill and go somewhere else in the gym because super hot chicks make me nervous. But today I said, "Screw that! I'm staying on the treadmill!" HAHA! Initially, I was really uncomfortable, but then I settled down and now I'm quite happy I stayed. ;P
A lack of continuous interest is inherent in multitasking, The new generation is one of multi-taskers... We are humans, not computers that is no riddle however the dynamics of neural nets are similar cross-mammals and smaller animals, the real problem is existantial and the answer is personal, one possible answer is "for my world, countries, religions, ideologies" but a good answer would be for "family, friends"
I will try to make it through a larger portion of the video, as it becomes increasingly...demented... towards the 2/20 of the length...in timespace.. btw kidding... not joking
In this video there is a riddle, to pick and choose when the maker (of the material) is talking in which mode, there is a nervous tick and then !Woosh! Switch, go, Personally I will try to take some of the advice at heart (as with the rest of the videos, being only an infinitely-small part of the intended audience, the implementation of the ideas presented herein can veer of to the philosophical and as such create predictable patterns of behavior in the minds of the young, the solution is xxxxx
Great video man keep it up. Allow me to recommend a good book I read. It's called: "The four Agreements." This book has helped me a lot. Is a sparse read, but very well worth it. I can relate to everything you said in this video. I used to be a very shy kid. I had no confidence in my self what so ever. I love the idea of doing something totally different than from what I been doing. I been thinking that for the last two weeks. Thanks a lot man!
My first thought is "be or not to be" from Shakespeare. I don't know I've you know them or read them. The books from Jed McKenna if you ready for them they are great.
They key to evolving is to step out of the comfort zone and feel afraid. To consciously pick the action we are the most afraid of. And when we fail, just allow that feeling to be.
I find the more I wake up, the harder it is to ignor the problem, everything we've ever been told is wrong with us, might be more, what's right with us. I trust my intuition above anything and everything else although when I'm in the slave world, I act like the other slaves. Even, when I try to ignor, something will happen to push me bback to the truth, I find it's like falling off a cliff, once you are falling, there's nothing you can do,, except when seeking truth, it feels like falling up.
Man its like you knew what was going on right now in my life...its the strangest thing when this is what i needed to hear. I had a call with my Dad tonight that really upset me and it triggered thoughts of my childhood and other times when he's would say hurtful things. I started beating myself up for not being what he wanted me to be...so being a sensitive person these comments have made me withdrawal from life and social events for years..sigh. Thank you for making this video.
@TheBiggabro Thank you for saying hi from Abu Dhabi. I would love to go someday. Arabs are some of the warmest and friendliest people I have ever met.
@vagabondsteve true thanks for the response! I tend to think people need to relax and just be for once. I do like the balance / wisdom found in the desiderata.
fortheday123 1 day ago
Thank you for the video. Your analysis of perfectionism and controlling behavior is right on. I am working on it myself, and this video is encouraging.
TheTrunic 4 weeks ago
i just watched your wake up video, you're way ahead of me :P
Karch101 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
you're right about your personality developing in a certain direction because of external factors and people. The thing though is learning to just sit with it, with the you that you have become. No effort involved. This reminded me of your life sucks video. I think tying the two together is a good idea. You may not like the you you have become, but that's you. Acceptance of that, true acceptance, has to come before any true change can occur. if one accepts themselves there's no more to do.
Karch101 1 month ago
@Karch101 Would this philosophy apply to someone who steals, does drugs, cheats on their spouse? It's not that black or white. Not accepting the person we have become can be the impetus to change.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve I would say that the opposite of accepting yourself is denying yourself or being in denial about who you are. If you accept who you think you are, then you can say i want to make some adjustments. I don't like saying "you" in a sense of the totality of a person because that's never understood by anybody. If you wish to stop cheating on your wife then you can stop. But first you have be vulnerable and say either "i like this" or "i don't like this."
Karch101 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve there is more to do though, i was wrong about that.
Karch101 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve I also made the original comment when i was feeling very stagnant and hopeless and thought it would be better to accept the displeasure because it is natural for many people. I've changed my view. The idea of "you" is a concept. All we can really do is tweak our perception of ourselves. We can however identify what we want and feel. I think the identification process is more valuable initially than the changing process.
Karch101 1 day ago
@Karch101 Thank you for your honesty and clarification.
vagabondsteve 13 hours ago
There's a great quote from this movie called, Revolver: "In every game and con there is always an opponent and there is always a victim. The more control the victim thinks he has, the less control he actually has. Gradually he will hang himself. I, as the opponent, just help him along." -- Now, they're talking about chess, but I've learned from my personal experience that chess is a lot like life, and the lessons of chess actually transcend the board. Just know that the opponent is always YOU.
tonyfalca 1 month ago
@tonyfalca This really doesn't make practical sense to me. Most victims don't feel they have any control. For example someone who gets robbed, scammed, or raped. Could you please elaborate with some real world examples.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve I think what it means is that, you can become a victim unknowingly. In other words, you'll hang yourself gradually by thinking that you've got everything figured out or under control. When you think you know better, you'll know worse. I don't believe the quote is referring to (f)actual victimization, but rather the victimization of one's self by one's self. Does that make sense to you..? Again, this is only my interpretation.
tonyfalca 1 day ago
@tonyfalca Yes, good explanation. T.Y.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
Personally, I feel as if most everything we do could be considered a distraction. We work, we have routines, etc, to avoid thinking or contemplating over our life and our behavior. Also, it seems that, if we don't overcome our 'problems'/bullshit/preconditioning, more times than not we'll pass it on, usually to the next generation. I think that's why our world's so shitty, is because so many people in the past, and even in the present day, avoid dealing with their shit, and therefore project it
tonyfalca 1 month ago
@tonyfalca The blame game perpetuates victim mentality. Victims stagnate in their misery. What makes the world shitty? I've met some very poor people with hard lives who don't think the world is shitty. This quote is hard to swallow, "life is neutral but our thinking makes it good or bad". Identification with thought causes our suffering. One of the happiest men I've met has no arms or legs. Joy is not what happens in the world but inside our heads.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve When I called the world shitty, I meant the world would be better off without war, violence, famine, oppression, and et cetera. But yeah, I've met a few older people in a my life time, and you can tell right away that they haven't dealt with something, whatever that may be, and without a doubt they'll be passing on their shit to future generations, down the family tree, so to speak.
tonyfalca 1 day ago
@tonyfalca I know what you mean. The channel is trying to encourage people to move beyond their history to a degree.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
After experiencing what I have, frankly, I believe freewill is earned (even though nobody, but yourself, is preventing one's own freewill)... I think life is all about overcoming the conditioning we're subjected to as children, and as you overcome the conditioning (or all the unconscious behavior/reactions/etc.) is when one really begins to experience freedom/freewill. Very, very few people in this world truly know, and experience, freewill... seriously.
tonyfalca 1 month ago
@tonyfalca What happens to us as children only exist as memories. Truly there is nothing to overcome. People instinctively resist this because they are attached to their story. The story we tell ourselves is what causes us to suffer. Freedom comes when we release attachment to our story. Thank you for all your comments. It really helps add to the discussion.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve I'm not talking so much about narratives, but you're right about that. I'm talking more so about overcoming conditioned behavior, reacting or responding to certain situations or stimuli unconsciously, and freedom from these sorts of things. I'm glad I could help in some way. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I find these topics beyond intriguing.
tonyfalca 1 day ago
@tonyfalca You are so right about conditioned behavior. It's so deeply ingrained within us. Baggage which we carry into adulthood. How do you think one overcomes this conditioned behavior? Thank you for expanding upon your comments.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
@vagabondsteve Well, of course it all begins with awareness, however, it gets tricky beyond that. I mean you gotta want to change, and you need a reason, a good reason. For me personally, very often back in the day, I used to lash out at people uncontrollably in rage. That was an unconscious response of mine, a conditioned behavior, so to speak. Honestly, the aftereffects took their toll eventually, those which probably triggered my desire for change, and it grew (--continued)
tonyfalca 1 day ago
@tonyfalca (--continued) from there. I put two and two together, I guess, and realized that I was simply projecting my shit unfairly onto others. Likewise, the only way I could facilitate ongoing change, overcoming such behavior, was to see it all as a process. The work never ends, but it gets easier and easier everyday. It rarely happens now, and it's totally worth it. I hope I didn't get too far offtrack.. lol
tonyfalca 1 day ago
Hey there, I am loving your videos, I am going to post a video response so you can see what I'm posting - something similar. It's also great to see you grow in your videos!
Corrans 1 month ago
@Corrans Thank you for your contributions.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
Your new movie is a great Christmass present for me and other people..
MrKliknijtutaj 1 month ago
you're a fucking genius
jeohlsson 1 month ago in playlist Fler videoklipp från vagabondsteve
Nice vllog thanks.
flomartoo 1 month ago
I enjoy how insightful but grounded your videos are. Thanks, and Happy New Year.
alttaab 1 month ago
Thanks, Steve.
IvanMarinIvkovich 2 months ago
Brilliant video for the year ahead. Mindfulness essentially I guess. Thanks Steve!, we've missed you.
davko79 2 months ago
Hi Steve! Thanks for the video,some day i will make a video response so we talk face to face.ha ha! I think we adapt very quick,when we move out of the confort zone we start expanding the confort zone,so to live a rich life we need trick our mind not given ourself the time to adapt.what do you think?>best wishes for you!Roberto
nolabel0 2 months ago
We certainly need more freedom from all this new age bondage conditioning stuff going on right now. Do you believe man has a built in spiritual side? I tend to think we do."keep peace with god whatever you conceive him to be"--desiderata.
fortheday123 2 months ago
@fortheday123 For me spirituality is the non-materiality of life. It's not all the gobbly-gook we've been conditioned to believe.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
You talked about "sitting with the discomfort." I enjoy practicing this from time to time. For example, just today, I was at the gym and this super hot chick started walking on the treadmill right next to me. My first reaction was to get off my treadmill and go somewhere else in the gym because super hot chicks make me nervous. But today I said, "Screw that! I'm staying on the treadmill!" HAHA! Initially, I was really uncomfortable, but then I settled down and now I'm quite happy I stayed. ;P
BillyOhRayBob90210 2 months ago
@BillyOhRayBob90210 Next time talk to her.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
A lack of continuous interest is inherent in multitasking, The new generation is one of multi-taskers... We are humans, not computers that is no riddle however the dynamics of neural nets are similar cross-mammals and smaller animals, the real problem is existantial and the answer is personal, one possible answer is "for my world, countries, religions, ideologies" but a good answer would be for "family, friends"
kkonstantinosss2 2 months ago
@kkonstantinosss2 Could you please explain your comments to me like I'm a 5 year old.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
I will try to make it through a larger portion of the video, as it becomes increasingly...demented... towards the 2/20 of the length...in timespace.. btw kidding... not joking
kkonstantinosss2 2 months ago
In this video there is a riddle, to pick and choose when the maker (of the material) is talking in which mode, there is a nervous tick and then !Woosh! Switch, go, Personally I will try to take some of the advice at heart (as with the rest of the videos, being only an infinitely-small part of the intended audience, the implementation of the ideas presented herein can veer of to the philosophical and as such create predictable patterns of behavior in the minds of the young, the solution is xxxxx
kkonstantinosss2 2 months ago
@kkonstantinosss2 What are you talking about?
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
Great video man keep it up. Allow me to recommend a good book I read. It's called: "The four Agreements." This book has helped me a lot. Is a sparse read, but very well worth it. I can relate to everything you said in this video. I used to be a very shy kid. I had no confidence in my self what so ever. I love the idea of doing something totally different than from what I been doing. I been thinking that for the last two weeks. Thanks a lot man!
TSGS21 2 months ago
dude you tear things apart! lol love it
misseptember 2 months ago
thank you for another great video
pootou 2 months ago
Good to see you again, Steve! As always, great video. I'd like to wish you happy, harmoneous, loving, healthy, wisdom & laughter filled 2012!
beatakrejcova 2 months ago
@beatakrejcova Right back at you. Thank you for all your encouraging words.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
So few stick to a true spiritual path these days. It is great to see one who is & sharing it.
pmaughmer 2 months ago
very well said :)
kRaZyShAdYbAbY 2 months ago
You always inspire me.
FunnyHolidays 2 months ago
My first thought is "be or not to be" from Shakespeare. I don't know I've you know them or read them. The books from Jed McKenna if you ready for them they are great.
melty4 2 months ago
They key to evolving is to step out of the comfort zone and feel afraid. To consciously pick the action we are the most afraid of. And when we fail, just allow that feeling to be.
But I cant bring myself to do it very often.
Uberware 2 months ago
@Uberware Start with small failures.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
I find the more I wake up, the harder it is to ignor the problem, everything we've ever been told is wrong with us, might be more, what's right with us. I trust my intuition above anything and everything else although when I'm in the slave world, I act like the other slaves. Even, when I try to ignor, something will happen to push me bback to the truth, I find it's like falling off a cliff, once you are falling, there's nothing you can do,, except when seeking truth, it feels like falling up.
enviroaces 2 months ago
Man its like you knew what was going on right now in my life...its the strangest thing when this is what i needed to hear. I had a call with my Dad tonight that really upset me and it triggered thoughts of my childhood and other times when he's would say hurtful things. I started beating myself up for not being what he wanted me to be...so being a sensitive person these comments have made me withdrawal from life and social events for years..sigh. Thank you for making this video.
kharyn21 2 months ago
@kharyn21 When someone is disappointed in you it has more to do with them than you.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
Steve,you are a great guy !!! I love ur videos they are very inspiring ... Im watching this from Abu Dhabi,U.A.E =)
TheBiggabro 2 months ago
@TheBiggabro Thank you for saying hi from Abu Dhabi. I would love to go someday. Arabs are some of the warmest and friendliest people I have ever met.
vagabondsteve 1 day ago
great vid, thanks for posting
Atreyul 2 months ago
i really love your videos steve! hope to see more of you in 2012!
fingerlickingoodism 2 months ago
@fingerlickingoodism Thank you for watching.
vagabondsteve 1 week ago