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  • I love Muscle Cars. I love their sound, I love their design. Some time i will get one. BUT:

    German drivers are better schooled in driving and German Cars where better, are better and will allways be better than all others in the world.

  • ive been looking for this vid.  audi put other cars to shame. muscle cars!.. haha

  • Unfair Advantage?

    Audi was better than you, bitches :D

  • German engineering... Problem America? :)

  • Thanks. 👍

  • one decade, and no one of the opponents managed to envelope their own all wheel drive

  • What are those things on the wheels? (dont say tyres) near the start of the vid.

    Thanks

  • @gravey07 telemetry sistems, messuring speed of the wheel, temperature, trying to find strange moves and verifying if it is well adjusted

  • Based on DTM D11?

  • f1 bmw's of the 1980's had 1000bhp++ from 1.3litre 4 cylinder based on production block pretty much.......the 80's was a great time for technology in all levels of racing.....le mans, f1, rallying, touring cars......too many rules now me thinks....good vid....audi's looked cool

  • I see a lot of good comments below and some negative. I checked the records and Audi did not race after the 89 season. Were there rule changes? In addition, the 90 did not win the GTO class. They failed to enter enough races and had some DNF's that took them out of the points race at the end. If their point was to show off their technology and I am sure it was, they succeeded. Anyone notice that Mazda was one of the most successful in the IMSA series?

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  • Rof,l so since it was an American event at which they got their asses handed to them by a far superior intellect, they decide to call it a unfair advantage, utter shit, the only thing Americans were and always will be good at is creating turmoil and getting involved in foreign affairs and instigating wars, what else do they contribute to modern society besides pestilence, greed, famine, planetary, and most important of all, self destruction. What a day to be an American huh, imbeciles...

  • German engeneering at it's best in the 80's

  • It's better than christmas new year and birfday!

  • if the american engineers would have been intelligent, they would have tried to copy the quattro-technology or tried to make their own 4WD racecar. what´s that telling us? american engineers think too conventional!

  • @UndeadTom1

    I think their brains are just plain lazy

  • @UndeadTom1

    Detroit survived for so long solely because they made all their money from trucks, which still is the most sold type of vehicle in the USA. For over a decade the Ford F-150 pick-up truck was the biggest seller of all cars sold. Since gasoline (petrol) is insanely cheap in the USA and the government insisted on living in a world where there are limitless of resources (or cheap imported oil from other countries, i.e Middle East) there was no need to design anything else but trucks.

  • @McLarenMercedes and that´s a reason why american car brands are not very established in europe. but i also have to say the european standards and the usa standards are very different

  • @UndeadTom1

    Well it seems reality finally caught up with the big three in Detroit. If not for the US Government bail-out to save jobs both GM and Chrysler would have gone out of business. Ford survived thanks to selling most of its brands to others.

  • Why they keep calling it an "unfair advantage"?

    It was fair, because it is an engineering competition as well.

    So audi won it on all accounts.

  • quattro is the best there is

  • I've been looking for this video for ages! Thank you so much for the upload!

  • hans j stuck is a badass

  • 5 people drive RWD cars

  • Those slow-mo shots are excellent.

  • @maserati333333

    out of 1.8 L engine.

    Delta S4 was in 2500 cc class while audi was in 3000 cc class

  • Walter Rohrl would have beat them all going sideways

  • @TheLowdub Stucky would always give Walter a run. Always. How could you underestimate Stucky?

  • @georg214 amen to that haha. they also used the race on Sunday, win on monday philosophy, too bad the r10/r15 diesel is in a pointless suv! I'd much rather see it in the a8 chassis.

  • We have too much Power for our gearbox and he smile;-)

  • I love quattro! go AUDI!

  • thats what i like about audi

    they take what everybody finds shity and than they kik but with it!!!

  • those wheelies are awesome!

  • Hahaaaaaa :-D Stuck ist einfach der beste!!!!

    "You have to have it in the Popo as we say" :-D :-D :-D

    Hilarious!

  • @MSTC81 Noch witziger fand ich, was der Röhrl dazu gesagt hat: "Man muss das vorrausahnen, denn wenn Du das im Hintern fühlst, dann hast Du das letzte mal im Leben was gefühlt!..."

    Tome it's even funnier, what Walter Röhrl said: "You have to guess it all in advance, cause if You feel it in the butt, it will be the last thing that You feel in Your life!"

  • so because other makers don't want to develop all wheel drive cars, the better engineered car is banded. this action has led to a lesser quality of motor vehicle released to the market in usa and aust. just to name a few.

  • awesome fuck FORD,CHEVY,and DODGE

  • no one else allows all wheel drive. consider that before u bash america.

  • 6:35...AWSOME!!!

  • yes,the german cars are :-)

  • This was an awesomely beautiful car I got to see it race twice in it final year here. The LA Car show at that time always had a viewing hall for race cars Jeff Brahbam was there that year with the IMSA GTP car big crowd. As we were leaving there sat this car in another room roped off with just an Audi sitting bored behind a desk no one there to admire this great car. We spoke about Audi's racing history and than guess what? he allowed me view it close up. What a great moment in my life.

  • What a badge of honor. If someone declares your engineering an unfair advantage that no other manufacturer can match you're doing something right!

  • this is my dream car...straight 5 cylinder...EXTRA TURBO :)...and Quattro...i think this isn´t mutch slover than some F1 :) you know Vorsprung durch technik !

  • yeah audi is really awesome, we´re driving a Audi A4 1.9 Turbo Diesel, i never could sell it ;) german technique :)

  • wow the thundercats logo in the car while racing omfg!

  • "Too much horsepower for our gear box and driveshaft" 1:56 :)

  • This is why americans only race in a straight line

  • i love it to be a german,

    NO SPEEDLIMIT,

    NICE CARS and

    Nice GIRLS! xD

  • You´re right !

  • audi is the best on this world! not ferrari or something else... AUDI IS IT! much greetings from Croatia!

  • It's not unusual to see this kind of decision: when a car uses a new feature the others should study it, copy and use it too (that's the essence of motor-racing, always improving) but usually the fast way to match the performances of the cars in the champ (ban the new tech) it's preferred because it's less expensive.

  • @LykosLykos

    If 4wd it's such a stunning vantage, all sports car (from touring to super-touring and Gt) should use it, it would also give an hand to 4wd system development for normal cars (you know, racing tech it's often a referring point to those used after some years in production cars) giving us better cars and faster races to watch...

  • i like hans joachims english =D pretty good in the 80s ... but now i laught my ass off ^^

    .......but still: the pronounciation of haaaaaaans by the reporter (i guess in part 2) was better though xD

  • yeah cool video

  • Great post! This is when Imsa was the shit!! Something Americans will never see again.

  • @SNUBNOSESAM Only because... There was a thing called the IRL/CART split and IMSA was bought by Andy Evans who made his money being Bill Gate's accountant and turned it into Professional Sportscar. All this upheaval allowed NASCAR who's competition was increasing, the quality of the fields and the teams, was able to take advantage and you have your present reality.

  • The narrator sounds so overwhelmingly american I'm struggling to watch this video. It's irritating really.

    That movie trailer voice is not among the most believable in a factual video...

  • Kidding right? The Audi's were all about AWD. They were fast, they were powerful but the AWD made them stick to the track like slot cars. Ever heard of set-up? Ever see these cars pass on the outside of a hairpin 20 mph faster than the next fastest car? Can't do that with RWD no matter your power or set-up.

  • great cars need great cars to exploit them fully!!!

  • meant to say great cars need great drivers

  • hahaha the best part of this video is at 5:33.. i laughed my ass off about this.. hahaha owned =)

  • drifting = tyre wear!

  • I think clarkson has competition on what the best looking car ever built is.He should put this on top gear and get the stig to do a lap time and see whats what.

  • yes yes absolutely you got that rite:) i want to see that more that any other car!

  • that audi is soooooooo sick looking, damn!

  • at 4:24 is it overtaking a BMW?

  • looks like a pontiac, the air inlets are very similar to the ones of BMW ("Niere")

  • If you understood basic physics the quattro was the unfair advantage. Four tires with power has greater surface area than two tires with power.

  • i love his english!

  • german engineers are the best ones in the world!

    and this car is the f****ng greatest audi ever built ;)

  • lol at "he has more flies on the doors than on the windscreen"

  • german engineering bitches !!!

  • 7:27 lol some kind a street race.. audi just awesome..5+

  • WOW!!

  • the could win with a 2.3 20v without turbo

    with the quattro system

  • Nonsense, without turbo the engine would have produced around 200 HP. That's very little compared to the actual output of the turbo Audi 90 GTO which was over 700 HP.

    The actual 'unfair advantage' of this car was the turbo, which at that point was not correctly regulated (no boost limit - this Audi had 3-4 atm boost!!). It is also important to mention that this Audi did not win the IMSA championship (GTO class) - this film seems to imply the opposite.

  • Are you saying quattro is NOT a major advantage?

  • @WakAtak914,

    Quattro was not a significant advantage in IMSA, as it is not an advantage in road racing in general. The losses in power due to AWD config, the additional weight do not make up for the gains in traction.

    Indeed, the real 'unfair advantage' was the turbo. By the end of the 80s all IMSAcars were turbo, because the regulations favored them. There was a 15 to 20% weight penalty for the turbo cars, but they were having at 50% more power, thus the edge in racing.

  • First off, I grew after IMSA's glory days, in fact this video is probably the most exposure to the series I've had. So I have no real knowledge of IMSA and its regulations.

    I agree that in perfect conditions quattro gives no real advantage, but as soon as it starts to rain a bit, or whenever a layer of dust or debris or tire scrub appears on the track(which is very often), the benefits of quattro are unbeatable. If they aren't then why would so many series today disallow all wheel drive?

  • You are incorrect. Listen to the last 2 minutes and it explains that even in dry conditions - awd CAN be an advantage. Of course - engine, suspension, balance and driver also play a part. If you configure it correctly - the awd certainly can be an advantage in the dry...

  • I meant in PERFECT conditions-- In a world where tires don't degrade and the road stays clean throughout the race, etc.

    Yes AWD has at least some advantage in the real world no matter what the conditions.

  • Ok - glad you clarified - but why bother to mention something that will NEVER exist. No road will EVER be perfect. The reality is that if you have the right configuration - you can make almost any drivetrail win at something. There is no - "one size fits all" in racing or in a passenger car. Everything has plusses and minuses. The reality is that Audi has made AWD a viable alternative in racing and passenger cars....and they've succeded as well.

  • huckebeinFW - you answered your won question. Audi made such a powerful engine (which also definitely deserves kudos) because Quattro AWD has a weight penalty. Both go hand in hand. There is no point in having all that power if you can't keep the car on the road. As the drivers said - the more the track deteriorates (which undoubtedly it will) Quattro always provides the traction advantage. Either way you spin - the powerful engine or the Quattro - Audi got itself banned.

  • @huckebeinFW

    Audi got the vice champion title because like in the video showed they screwed the first 2 races. If the car would be running from th ebeginning they would have won the title.

  • yes! you are soooo rite!

  • @huckebeinFW

    later in the season it seems that the car was a killer and that was abviously the reason the officials banned them

  • saizes valdo!!!!

  • Would u LOOK at those tyres!!!I wonder how many G`s they can generate thru a medium turn with the right temp. in both tarmac and tyre.......

  • Audi have a history of changing the rules and dominating sport events.... Quattro + TDI technology spring to mind immediately but as this video proves Audi again :)

  • It's not about changing the rules. It's about finding advantages the rules permit! That's what their strapline says: "Vorsprung durch Technik" ("Advancement Through Technology"). Audi wants to find new ways to be a step ahead instead of just following the crowd. Unfortunately there are not many series left that allows this kinda thinking due to strict regulations.

  • Audi don't change the rules... the rules change after Audi make a mockery of the regulations and completely destroy the competition.

    Like you say the regulations are getting stricter and stricter but there is always room for improvement.

  • Hans Stuck is a legend.

  • this is a legend

  • man i wish i had that audi today!

  • Classic.

  • This guy says "Jesus Christ" too much lol

  • this guy is hans joachim stuck !

  • i hate when a car or team or certain technology is banned. quit being a sore loser and make something better. and if your scared of what that technology brings to the table, quit. someone else out there will be happy to take your place!

  • Anssi - Unfair Advantage is a reference to the Book written by Mark Donohue. It refers to the advantage some teams have when they search and exploit the possibilities for the car while still in the rules. It's not truly unfair, just seems so.

    BTW - it's a great book, check it out.

  • THIS... epic win. Vorsprung Durch Technik

  • What they mean by unfair advantage is that the audi's are 4 wheel drive while the other cars are rear wheel drive.The audi's would have twice the grip even with thinner tyres on them.Well at least thats what i think he means lol.

  • They do, but why hadn't the others built cary with four wheel drives... coudl have so why is it an unfair advantage...

  • Why this movie is called unfair advantage? Rules are same for everyone. Just shows how pathetic american motorsports are. If they cant win in fair game they ban you, then bomb your country to stoneage.

  • hahahaha thats so freaking true, stupid american motor sports. that also happen here in australia with the R32 gtrs they could keep up with them so they just ban them.

  • lol sooo true

  • @AnssiMarkkanen Damn right so fuck you and stay out.

  • @AnssiMarkkanen Quattro has been banded in European race series too. For the same reasons. Asshat!

  • @AnssiMarkkanen

    in the late 90's they were doing the same thing in BTCC and WTCC- the debut year I think the S4 won almost every single race, then it took them like 2 years to even out the playing field

    why do you think there are no AWD road racing cars now?

  • @AnssiMarkkanen "Unfair" has a different meaning in the USA.

    Unfair = Outsmart

    So since they couldn't beat the smart Audi guys, they had to change the rules to "remove" them from the "competition" again.

  • @AnssiMarkkanen HAHAHAHA gota love that comment

  • @AnssiMarkkanen sehe ich genau so!

    ES LEBE AUDI !!!!

  • "Stones falling down from our heart." I know what he means but I don't think that translates, lol.

  • Great clip. I was at the Miami race. Those cars looked great, sounded great and just seemed to be able to take lines that none of the other cars could.

  • thank u so much for posting this, it is fucking awesome

  • to this day i am still saying wow.....

    audi still dominates all racing

  • 6:12mins audis had a unfair advantage made me laugh so much,it was like listening to the teams when the s1 quattro turned up.How amazing did the 200 and the 90 look, can you get that body kit for them?

  • Hi i went to a vw sport day called DUB SPORT just outside of London and there was a audi team there they had the ex works team car for sale you got lots of extra's to... wheels, tyre's,gearbox.. and engine parts.... they wanted £27000 for it.. does anyone no how much power these cars had?

  • at the end up to over 700 bhp from a 2.2l engine - just amazing...

  • @ironkcoony The Germans .. quattro 2.2 5V Einpacken konnten die anderen .. Stizel hatte sein spass..

  • I was at Laguna Seca in '89 to see the F40 IMSA debut.. Jean Alesi had the lead in the F40 until the last few laps, but then it was the Audis that finished 1-2 after the F40's Pirelli tires decided to call it quits.. I'll never forget the sound of those cars

  • @DerFahrer5000 You saw Alesi in an F40?! Lucky bastard, I'd have paid good money to see him racing Ferrari's most beautiful car. I have seen him driving in a European sports car race and he was just as quick as in F1.

  • will someone tell me what the horsepower is for the quatrro's? not the rally versions.

  • the Audi 90 IMSA GTO had around 700hp.

  • 720hp

  • man, that probily the only documentery that i watched all way through and found it interesting, ive always liked quatrros, but now, even more!

  • It's more of a commercial but a damn good one and more informative than most documentarys.

  • i know, i was glued!

  • great videos. thank you for uploadin

  • Thanks for uploading these 3 videos. They're absolutely amazing and very interesting!

    Quattro was one of the best inventions even made..

  • x2, I watch these videos over and over. I love my quattro!

  • Awsome video, thanks for the upload!

  • I really missed the shot of Stuckie wheelying over the hump at Lime Rock! EPIC

  • Near the end of a golden age of road racing in America...miss it! When ESPN was the TV place for great racing!!!!

  • Trust me I agree with you. The hell with sportscenter from March to November was seeing great racing.

  • 5 cylinder turbo engine+quattro drivetrain = total domination!!! vorsprung durch technik!!!!

  • AbsolUte DominatIon

  • Germans are the best to build race cars.

  • You are right! :D

  • @VeeArrSix Is not truth, germans have best every cars, if you mean"only" holy trinity-Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Opel is shi... WV ...

  • @Nasum6 VW and Opel make excellent race-cars if you ask me, maybe not as fast as a 800hp Audi 90 but still very good race-cars, just take a look at the Berg Cup

  • is the IMSA GTO still around?

  • IMSA GTO was a series that ran with the GTPs.

    GTO cars were Grand Touring type cars with an engine of 2.5 L displacement or more.

  • Yes in Ingolstadt/Germany in the Audi Museum and once a year they make a Show on the Parking Lot with it

    awesome

  • God we kicked some serious american ass haha, we showed u how to build racecars for ur own race event lol

  • We? Were you part of the Audi program? Didn't think so.

  • @Clifton240Z

    exactly.

  • What an awesomely aggressive looking car.

    The drivers weren't holding back either - they were putting the boot in.

    Hot car.

  • your all fat

    audi just rulez da world

  • Fooping awesome

  • Space Age Telemetry! W00t!

  • The AUDI 90 IMSA is one the meanest looking and sounding competition cars of all time!

  • "space age telemetry system" ahah hilarious

  • Ah yes... hilarious - because Ford and their Mustang still have troubles with their communications? - Let alone a system that monitors exhaust temp of each cylinder, intake pressures, AFR, MAF + more to 2+ decimals accurately and adjust accordingly. Hilarious because these were achievable by Audi almost 20 years ago when Mustang was still struggling to build a car with a set of nuts that could pass emissions? Well, let's both pretend you were laughing at the other cars - like the rest of us.. =D

  • "They just don't know what hit them" :)

  • Cool down sparky. We can like cars w/out taking sides. I'm an audi fan as well.

  • At 7:20, the Audi 90 is outrunning a Ferrari F40. **giggles**

  • but why not, this Audi 90 had nothing in common with the production car, only the name.

  • No, not entirely. The drivetrain remained nearly unchanged, the body has minimal modifications (its still a four-door) and it is the same 5-cyl engine found in the street version, albeit modified.

  • but 4 door sedans are nothing special in european touring car history. In the DTM there are sedans ever since. For americans it may look strange but touring cars in europe are always 4 door sedans like Mercedes C-class,BMW 3 series,Alfa 156.

  • The IMSA Audi 90 has not much in common with the stock Audi 90. The transmission is different, the engine heavily modified (maybe the block is the same - nothing else. The body is completely different! It actually had a tube frame with a Audi 90 "shell".

  • IMSA was not the first "silhouette" formula. I agree with you though. This was a purpose built race-car. Totally within the rules of the day though. In more stock formulas, the Audi A4's were eventually banned (in quattro form anyway). Audi seems to have a habit of crushing race oppositions one way or the other - even going back to Auto Union days...

  • True, but this is the case today as well. The GTO class, in which Audi 90 GTO competed in, is today the GT1 class from ALMS. In GT1 only the engine block is kept. Transmission, most of the chassis and the aero package are completely different from stock.

  • My reply was for buggable.

  • Nothing beats the audi quattro!

  • the golden times of motorsport, i loved the audi IMSA and the pikes peak Audi.

  • Ingolstädter Ingeneurskunst .

    5-Zylinder for ever.

  • lovely

  • so awesome, i wish i could get my hands on some videos of all the races that season.

  • ya me too! amazing cars

  • same here with a lot of incar footage!

  • I think it´s awsome when the IMSA GTO gets airborn! It´s so spectacular

  • Great video! Love the 90IMZA and the sound of it. Thanks for sharing!

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