@tamaman65 have you studied music?, if you say, 6/8 ,,, you say 2 bars of 123 456 / 123 456, and he´s doing 123 456 789 101112, like playing truplets in hi hat when you are playing 4/4, if that what you are saying it´s true, "hold the line" it´s in 6/8, and it is NOT
@lobituso Please don't get me wrong. What time signature is this then? Because I am counting a steady 6 beats per measure or bar. Here again please don't take offence. I would really like to know. I have been playing for many years, but I have not had formal training.
Oops, my bad. It's nearer 1:20 and its a group of 3 double strokes. Didn't see his left hand come across the first time ! It just looked like he was rocking his right stick on the rim.
This is from 1991. Notice Simon's subtle use of a one handed gravity blast buzz roll at 1:22, while keeping the shuffle ostinato going with his left hand. Short , sharp, perfectly placed. This is truely masterful use of a technique that many overuse to an extent which just wears out the listener.
the great thing about 6/8, or 12/8 for that matter, is that you can subdivide it so many different ways. you can feel it in 2, 3, 4, 6, or 12... so the comment about it being a half-time shuffle isn't wrong, it's just one way of interpreting it.
man? i thought it was a metronome!!! i'm not a drummer but it sounds like he's right on time most, if not all, of the time. growing up w/a brother that played drums, i remember he said that 'listening' is the most important thing. what i dig about these series of lessons is he gets a groove going that i can lock into, then he works on the style points with all the little things he does around that basic beat. If all he did was the crazy stuff, he'd lose me pretty early on.
I just bought it, and miss the piano melody in this tune... irritates me! xD I just love this melody theme from "The Goose", and this little piano, actually sounds better than the Soprano sax in my opinion :)
Ringo Star.. Hahahaha... Hey JoeJacari..., Let Ears play with Happy, and leave the drumming to Simon :) Don't care about Ling Ling.. Cute story though
@TheDarthnick Exactly! All Drummers are different and are all good in their own ways. Its like comparing Steve Gadd with Simon Phillips - thing is you can't, because they are both different players.
@tomsimon92 i don't now if i should give you a thumbs down for this because there is no best drummer and you can't really compare drummers, or a thumbs up because i find him to be way way up there, he just makes music that is a pleasure to listen to
Si and Joe actually did play together on the Mick Jagger tour back in the late 80s. I know, the music is nothing like this (or any Simon/Joe song) but they did play and it sounded great!
@DrummerLee978 Lmao...the main groove is so obviously a shuffle that I'm in disbelief that people could be so stupid as to argue otherwise! Of course it can also be counted in 6 as dotted but so can all shuffles..including rosanna. U tards should really get a clue lol.
@SpiffaJ You're really just making yourself look like an idiot, like congratulations cuz your the shit?. Thats what you want right? recognition?..why else would you be draggin this on.so when tama asks you to make your own signature kit and some little kid tries to tell you about your video, then give em hell kid. But until that time.why dont you just watch the veideo and enjoy it.. or dont watch it, cuz no one gives a shit and a half what you think. If im wrong, anyone but you can let me know
@DrummerLee978 I've been playing drums for 15 years you wankstain so stop acting like you have a clue and accept reality...THIS IS A SHUFFLE GROOVE (I accept it IS 6/8 but that's if u count it as dotted (1,2 1,2 1,2) However if you listen to any other shuffle groove like Rosanna for instance (which I'm sure you'd agree IS a half time shuffle lol) this dotted 6th count also applies. It's not as if Siphi himself posted this video so why the sudden urge to take what the title says as gospel??
I have about thirteen Simon Phillips Returns videos and should have them all uploaded with a week so keep checking back. Glad to hear to from a fellow Simon Phillips fan.
I really feel like the ending was 7/8......
SMWhit3out 2 weeks ago
is this available commercially ? Anyone ?
TheMichaelseymour 2 weeks ago
Reminds me of the underground Mario levels, lol
dreamopeth 3 weeks ago
have some 12/8 in there aswell.
zTampa1337 1 month ago
ich hab den beat schon in " Bottom of your soul " genial gefunden... macht lila laune
bolie08 2 months ago in playlist simon phillips
@bolie08 I thought the same thing, man!
musicofEagle 1 month ago
1-2-3, 1-2-3. Isn't this more 3/4?
mikper7 2 months ago
@mikper7 It starts out with a 3/4 feel, but it's definitely 6/8 for most of the song.
athrough0 1 month ago
The solitary moron that disliked this is a fucking idiot, who knows absolutely nothing about drumming.
misanthropingthewind 2 months ago
@misanthropingthewind ...Or Simon being hypercritical of his own phenomenal playing.
misanthropingthewind 2 months ago
nuss very nice
aristotelescoutinho 4 months ago
a rhythm 's scientist
WazzupDoc69 5 months ago
Simon I know nothing about beats per bar but i've seen you & Louie Bellson in
concert together it was great. And i've seen Louie buy himself & he gets two
sticks in each hand & did great for an oldie.
course he had not as many drums as you. I thank GOD that you got to drum with him before he passed.
P.S He buried not more than two city blocks from me. P.P.S. KEEP THE GOOT WORK!!!
lennon62john 5 months ago
Simon ! Yeah, still gettin' it done !
stixie211 6 months ago
No doubt about it..It's 6/8 123456-123456-123456
tamaman65 7 months ago
@tamaman65 have you studied music?, if you say, 6/8 ,,, you say 2 bars of 123 456 / 123 456, and he´s doing 123 456 789 101112, like playing truplets in hi hat when you are playing 4/4, if that what you are saying it´s true, "hold the line" it´s in 6/8, and it is NOT
lobituso 7 months ago
@lobituso Please don't get me wrong. What time signature is this then? Because I am counting a steady 6 beats per measure or bar. Here again please don't take offence. I would really like to know. I have been playing for many years, but I have not had formal training.
tamaman65 7 months ago
0:50 it seems 12/8 for me, but it is just a opinion
lobituso 7 months ago
@lobituso he overides the 6/8 signature sometimes
MrSchizos 7 months ago
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lobituso 7 months ago
@MrSchizos yes, maybe, it could be so
lobituso 7 months ago
Oops, my bad. It's nearer 1:20 and its a group of 3 double strokes. Didn't see his left hand come across the first time ! It just looked like he was rocking his right stick on the rim.
drsteve0487 8 months ago
This is from 1991. Notice Simon's subtle use of a one handed gravity blast buzz roll at 1:22, while keeping the shuffle ostinato going with his left hand. Short , sharp, perfectly placed. This is truely masterful use of a technique that many overuse to an extent which just wears out the listener.
drsteve0487 8 months ago
@Allplussomeminus that s what I counted also 1-2-3-4-5-6
stickypalmping 8 months ago
Absolutley amazing best drummer in the world no doubt about it HE'S AWESOME!!!
jonorocko1 8 months ago
123456-123456-123456-123456
Allplussomeminus 11 months ago
I still think Jeff was better, just my opinion. For Toto, that is.
dfdemt 1 year ago
the great thing about 6/8, or 12/8 for that matter, is that you can subdivide it so many different ways. you can feel it in 2, 3, 4, 6, or 12... so the comment about it being a half-time shuffle isn't wrong, it's just one way of interpreting it.
ponderingwanderer 1 year ago
Can you count 6/8 as 3/4? It's the same thing right? Or does it matter? HELP MEE!!!
emiel4sma 1 year ago
@emiel4sma yes, you can count it as 3/4 usually there isn´t a problem if you count like this
you just have to concentrate on the bars.
blackpearl961963 11 months ago
@emiel4sma
think of the bar as in half, so a 7/8 would be 1,2,3, and 1,2,3 and, etc.
drummerfromoly 7 months ago
The first 38 seconds are impossible :'(
pasjol 1 year ago
I love how this is the only "normal" time signature out of his videos and its sounds like something not in 6/8. If you dont count
AndrewAdler666 1 year ago
@yoshihisa75
man? i thought it was a metronome!!! i'm not a drummer but it sounds like he's right on time most, if not all, of the time. growing up w/a brother that played drums, i remember he said that 'listening' is the most important thing. what i dig about these series of lessons is he gets a groove going that i can lock into, then he works on the style points with all the little things he does around that basic beat. If all he did was the crazy stuff, he'd lose me pretty early on.
JonP1961 1 year ago
I think what's confusing people here is the particular phrasing of this 6/8 tune and its similarities to the triplet feel half shuffle.
Personally, id write this in 3/4 or 3/8 as 6/8 is a compound time sig. and theres a good few groupings of 2 here.
Lastly, i think we should find something else to discuss here, like perhaps the great, tasteful drumming?
Seems like people are posting just to correct the guy who put up the video who probably just wanted to share cool music with the public. Grow up
Toshfunk 1 year ago
Excellent stuff!
anishnaube 1 year ago
Is this from the remastered DVD?..
I just bought it, and miss the piano melody in this tune... irritates me! xD I just love this melody theme from "The Goose", and this little piano, actually sounds better than the Soprano sax in my opinion :)
trommistv2 1 year ago
There's feeling good, and there's this!
Drumsquire 2 years ago 3
He is so technical and precise it's ridicilous... damn fusion...
aakkoin 2 years ago
he is fenomenal
006Ace006 2 years ago
Superb - lost for words really....
nuthoose 2 years ago 2
nice..REAL nice....
chriscrimson98 2 years ago
i think its easier if you count as 3/4.
jon6132 2 years ago
@jon6132 ... the easiest way to count 6/8 is to just count the dotted quarter notes .... 1 2 1 2 1 2
sweetfly66 1 year ago
@jon6132 agreed.
DeadlyNinjaDrummer 1 year ago
Questo si che sa suonare °_°
HuskyRulez333 2 years ago
ecco come si suona la batteria!
sabatasusu 2 years ago
Ringo Starr DOES own them all!
yaclaus 2 years ago
whaaa??
127quinn 2 years ago
great play along tracks also! Nice job by himself!
christopher99 2 years ago
He's amazing
Denise1Siroen 2 years ago
Ringo Star.. Hahahaha... Hey JoeJacari..., Let Ears play with Happy, and leave the drumming to Simon :) Don't care about Ling Ling.. Cute story though
joromark 2 years ago
BWaaaahahaha
127quinn 2 years ago
one of my all-time fav drummers
krang07 2 years ago
Drummer ranking is a great bullshit !!!! Evry good drummer has a own style !! Can you play drums, Antiks72 ? I think no !!
alraune6666 2 years ago 2
No I can't but I still know good drummers when I see and hear them.
Antiks72 2 years ago
you are so right, you cant compare drummers...
TheDarthnick 2 years ago 19
@TheDarthnick Exactly! All Drummers are different and are all good in their own ways. Its like comparing Steve Gadd with Simon Phillips - thing is you can't, because they are both different players.
CurlyDrummerBoy18 3 weeks ago
@alraune6666 Amen to that
SpiffaJ 1 year ago
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alraune6666 2 years ago
Ringo Star owns them all.
Antiks72 2 years ago
Ringo star don't even know how to play drums
jjbb12Drummer 2 years ago
@Antiks72 Sorry dude, I love Ringo but he's simply not a hair on this guy's ass lol
SpiffaJ 1 year ago
This is the only vid that I've seen where he crosses over on the hi-hat! I know it's just for effect but I've just never seen him do it before.
rickyon 2 years ago
I am counting 12/8 half time shuffle @ .39 dunno but awesome anyways
mitnostrebo 2 years ago
Then you can't count.
tuttskifruttski 2 years ago
2:59 He hits the underside of the cymbal. Interesting effect.
Paitsch 2 years ago
1. neil peart 2. simon phillips
bullar97 2 years ago
Both are awesome drummers.
YTDSoM 2 years ago 3
1. You're an idiot 2. Just because
eskimoposh 2 years ago
Simon Phillips plays on the Joe Satriani track 'Banana Mango 2.'
harnois75 2 years ago
the best!
tomsimon92 2 years ago 7
@tomsimon92 i don't now if i should give you a thumbs down for this because there is no best drummer and you can't really compare drummers, or a thumbs up because i find him to be way way up there, he just makes music that is a pleasure to listen to
c0d3x001 7 months ago
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gebass6 2 years ago
You idiots, just count it in triplet forum and you'll get it!
tuttskifruttski 3 years ago
Name of this song? Album?
laloservin 3 years ago
Si and Joe actually did play together on the Mick Jagger tour back in the late 80s. I know, the music is nothing like this (or any Simon/Joe song) but they did play and it sounded great!
porthos08 3 years ago
Hmmm I think his long time drummer, Jeff Campitelli is a perfect fit already, Satraini is a lot more about solid rock than Simon Phillips.
Fox.
Fox622003 3 years ago
Phillips has done a lot of solid rock in his time - Michael Schenker, Whitesnake, Nazareth, Gary Moore, Judas Priest, The Who, Jeff Beck....
harnois75 2 years ago
i feel soooo goood...
ricoholic 3 years ago
wonderfull drumming
iggiguggi 3 years ago
2.39 is really a great part...
dennisverbeekje 3 years ago
2:39 is a lovely 'out of leftfield' moment.
harnois75 3 years ago
excellent groove and feeling!
Blisscension 3 years ago
Great drummer and a person.... love his work...
paweluz 3 years ago 2
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6/8? This is a triplet feel...half time shuffle..no 6/8 here.
SpiffaJ 3 years ago
Hmmm...sure about that? Might want to count it again.
IMARenegade 3 years ago 9
@IMARenegade
It _could_ be counted as a triplet feel, as well. He's not THAT wrong.
wowrazzor 1 year ago
Listen to the hi-hat pattern. That is a 6/8 rhythm. And I am quite sure that Simon knows what he's talking about.
OctoJan 3 years ago 3
The main groove is clearly a shuffle..Which is 6/8 if you count in straight time i guess..but you wouldn't normally refer to it as "6/8" though.
SpiffaJ 3 years ago
i think you're wrong there my friend.
fleshanditspower 3 years ago
Oh so I guess 'Rosanna' is in '6/8 too then pfft
SpiffaJ 3 years ago
thats not relevent...the first 40 seconds is no doubt a shuffle but after that it is clearly 6/8.
fleshanditspower 3 years ago
What!? Other way around you mean? Intro is a straight a head 6/8 groove...main groove is the shuffle.
SpiffaJ 3 years ago
u both have no clue, nothin changes, its a normal 4/4 with played with triplets instead of 8ths. normal shuffle groove all the way.
manu2591 3 years ago
6/8 is more like...3/4...
Alucardcounter44 3 years ago
your right but it easy to see where the 6/8 might fool some. clearly 4/4 triplets
taxford 3 years ago
it isnt really a shuffle grove it is really just a triplet feel
taxford 3 years ago
@SpiffaJ ... definitely 6/8 ... this is not a half time shuffle
sweetfly66 1 year ago
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DrummerLee978 1 year ago
@DrummerLee978 Lmao...the main groove is so obviously a shuffle that I'm in disbelief that people could be so stupid as to argue otherwise! Of course it can also be counted in 6 as dotted but so can all shuffles..including rosanna. U tards should really get a clue lol.
SpiffaJ 1 year ago
@SpiffaJ You're really just making yourself look like an idiot, like congratulations cuz your the shit?. Thats what you want right? recognition?..why else would you be draggin this on.so when tama asks you to make your own signature kit and some little kid tries to tell you about your video, then give em hell kid. But until that time.why dont you just watch the veideo and enjoy it.. or dont watch it, cuz no one gives a shit and a half what you think. If im wrong, anyone but you can let me know
DrummerLee978 1 year ago
@DrummerLee978 I've been playing drums for 15 years you wankstain so stop acting like you have a clue and accept reality...THIS IS A SHUFFLE GROOVE (I accept it IS 6/8 but that's if u count it as dotted (1,2 1,2 1,2) However if you listen to any other shuffle groove like Rosanna for instance (which I'm sure you'd agree IS a half time shuffle lol) this dotted 6th count also applies. It's not as if Siphi himself posted this video so why the sudden urge to take what the title says as gospel??
SpiffaJ 1 year ago
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DrummerLee978 1 year ago
@SpiffaJ I already gave you your props...You're the shit.. one day i wish to be like you master yoda...But even still... no one gives a shit >_>
DrummerLee978 1 year ago
@DrummerLee978 Thankyou. Sarcasm is the most sincere concession of defeat ;)
SpiffaJ 1 year ago
@SpiffaJ you can count it both ways
Flaitesexy 1 year ago
@SpiffaJ I wouldn't try to say Simon Phillips takes wrong, if I was you xD
EILIVdrummer 1 year ago
@SpiffaJ @ 3:00 listen to the pattern on the bass drums, definately 6/8
LeJaxx 1 year ago 5
RETURNS??He never left....
antztudio 3 years ago 3
Of course not...just the name of the DVD it's from. But then again, you probably already know that.
BTW...what do you think of Terry Bozio?
IMARenegade 3 years ago
Hi mate,bozzio is awesome mate!cheers
antztudio 3 years ago
Finally someone who uploads stuff from the Simon Phillips Returns video. Keep it coming!
tuttskifruttski 3 years ago
I have about thirteen Simon Phillips Returns videos and should have them all uploaded with a week so keep checking back. Glad to hear to from a fellow Simon Phillips fan.
IMARenegade 3 years ago
Do you have the DVD and have extracted them to the comp or have you just found them on the web?
tuttskifruttski 3 years ago
I have an SVCD that I made from the DVD. Just uploaded another one also.
IMARenegade 3 years ago