Sol Niger Within - Behind the Scenes

[godsizedhole]

It's so unbelievable that they were doing this in '96. Even if it came out today, it would be ahead of it's time.

[thierryman]

Dude, where can we get coke cans of that size here in the USA?!

[Fluffypopcicle]

satan disliked this video. obviously because he is the only being in existence dickish enough to dislike a video this awesome. OMG A COMMENT ABOUT THE DISLIKE BAR!!!! yeah, so what?

[BlackSunSerenade]

@Fluffypopcicle Nothing, it's just not funny at all

[Fluffypopcicle]

@BlackSunSerenade

i don't even remember typing that comment. that was probably done by one of my friends. i don't post comments like that.

[clusterfuck667]

fuck me that morgen agren can hit some shit

[mohomoho1]

I love how he is mocking endorsements by holding a coke can and a coke t shirt very funny

[MetalHeadEmperor]

CANT WAIT FOR SPECIAL DEFECTS 2!!!!!!

[007Pogo]

@MetalHeadEmperor Will be a part 2? really?.

[MetalHeadEmperor]

@007Pogo yeah dude, morgan agren said they were.. and the drummer for soilwork was apparently suppose to do some drum tracks but i dont know if he is anymore, but i cant wait :D, how long has it been... like, 13 years or something? haha....

[007Pogo]

@MetalHeadEmperor Thats some great news!!!

[bea5ToloG]

2:10 was that a mentos on his tongue and a coke in his hand?

[TheMattiEscapePLan]

@bea5ToloG maybe an Aspirine!

[AdamDallas]

It's cool hearing Fred talk, he doesn't do many interviews or anything!

[barrymorrissey]

When is the new album supposed to be out? Anyone know?

[Cannibalblast]

@barrymorrissey

It was released in 1997, dude.

[barrymorrissey]

@Cannibalblast They are making a new one

[iamtotallywasted]

new album comingggg

[borjita696969]

@iamtotallywasted new album of fredrick, dude?¿?¿

[Greensmurf]

Man. I could go for a coke right about now

[funknotik]

Fucking awesome.!

[rutherk1g]

What a fantastic album. I remember getting this when it came out and being totally blown away.

Was Fredrik sponsored by Coke a Cola or something? :)

[ecaepevolhturt]

I prefer this to Meshuggah's music. Fredrik Thorendal is awesome.

[thenameiwantedwasnta]

"såhä see de ut in de studio"

[Kegrath]

@thenameiwantedwasnta ahahaha awesome.

[eviltube1111]

the album that got me into Meshuggah. It is now my 2nd favorite Meshuggah-related album next to Catch 33 (favorite Meshuggah album ever)

[dangleesac102]

HE TALKS!!!

[123method]

This makes me want a coke bad :3

[ATtTheGates]

Morgan was asked to be on the Blotted Science album, fucking sucks that he turnt it down, apparently he was busy, still charlie zeleny is pretty fucking awesome. Would love to hear a Morgan and Jarzombek collaboration!

[fetapan]

haha stora colaburkar!!!

fan va ni e grymma pojkar!

[RussellsParadox]

What's that orange bucket lookin' thing under his hi-hat?

[DanTL07]

My mistake, after further review i did hear that part. I was just memorized by the sound and was in some other dimension lol. Sometimes I wish all music was this good and artistic... but... then we wouldn't know who has real talent and whose just trying to get rich and famous.

[DanTL07]

What is that song through 0:21- 1:21. I Have Sol Niger Within and never heard that part on there. If Someone knows can you help your fellow music lover :)

[chepe371]

version 3.33 Krapp's last tape

[GaryCancer]

Look at him playing that double bass. I don't remember being that much double bass on the album...

[adambell666]

hes not playing double bass thats his other foot on the hi hat

[GaryCancer]

At 1:04 and 1:30 he definitely starts playing double bass. The hi hat is not moving... and you can hear it.

[adambell666]

yeah youre right.

i just listened to those sections on the album and it doesnt sound like hes doing double bass on it.. hmm

[OwnedByMoomin]

well the hi hat on the far right seems to moving quite a lot if you ask me...

[cheeseypoo66]

there needs to be more live solos of fredrik thordendal on youtube. sol niger within really shows how underrated his lead playing is.

[Connor391]

Was this the making for fredriks special detects thing? I'm confused

i want this album a lot

[eviltube1111]

yes. It's Sol Niger Within. Get the 3.33 version AWESOME album! Nearly a classic in my opinion.

[nycic]

Oh a huge FUCK YEAH! Ha ha ha!

[bionicmemorykid]

lol FredrikThordendal ... Awesome tones, and progressions, and what a multi-talented artist! Anyone have any tones like Freddy on Guitar RIG 3 XP or Vista? I will trade. Great upload!

[joromark]

This album changed my life!

Thank you for the upload

[strannger]

mine too. i listen to the album least once a day for 3-4 months, know the whole lyrics word by word (tho i still can't figure the meaning fully). Fredrik is just hundred miles ahead the most metalheads today. like a next step in the evolution of thinking.

[theSyringe]

One of the best albums ever made.

[iLoveOlivaMunn]

i cant believe fredrik sold out...to coca cola...

[llinkmang]

the guy has a great sense of humour, don't fret it it bet it's just for fun

[FredrikThordendal]

Coca Cola sold out to me.

[phphphphphphph]

that's exactly what I was gonna say

[slipknot837]

amazing album

[mcudean]

it begins like the scene from waynes world "contract or no! I will not bow to any sponsor!"

[quisquefaber88]

aaaaaaaaaw this was such a treat! sooo sweeeeet! killer badass drumming by Morgan.. these guys are amazing

[I3lackArrow]

Omg what a pleasent surprise.. have'nt seen this before :D .... I spoke to morgan ågren a couple of days ago on a mats/morgan gig... i got his and mats autograph.. his voice is so pedagogigal, you become happy when he speaks =)

[tiki2188]

Fredrik sounds...very Swedish lol

[panikdapig]

how how how!!!

Insane

[Kafe420]

Do anyone know why Morgan has a flowerpot below his hihat cymbal?

[periodbloodbath]

adds reverb to the hh mic

[MaXaNoMaLoUs]

that was soo awesome to hear first versions of "Bouncing in a Bottomless pit" thats all i needed to see.. awesome musicians.. it hurts my head

[b0ttomzone]

you can tell at 0:30 that fredrik is pretty wowed by morgan's drumming

[mynameisniu]

is he amazed or disappointed?

[linkinShaolin]

Tomas Haake would demolish Morgan.

[Synaesthethic]

Tomas Haake is a fucking monster, but sorry man, morgan is better.

[anastu]

Morgan is more of a freestyle jazz musician, and Thomas, obviously, is more into groove. Completely different styles.

[Synaesthethic]

Morgan can play all kind of styles, i've seen them both play same genres and morgan has more feel to it. But as said they both are extremely talented drummers nonetheless

[HINRG14]

so which drummer is the more technikcal, keeping in consideration their styles, which i know nothing about?

[anastu]

In terms of technicality, I say Morgan. But I like Thomas Haake because he plays heavier, I guess you could say.

[macwild1234]

I would have to say Tomas is more technical. His playing is very straightforward and very mathmatical. Morgan is more of a light tapper and has a jazzier style. He plays is jazz bands so...

[chepe371]

inddeed his sound is more based on nuances and call response type shit with the guitar, haake is just a robozombie precision beast

[DeadAmaranth]

@chepe371 I don't think you intend any aspersion; I think I know what you mean about Tomas. But for those who want to take this as a reason to latch onto Haake-thrashing, remember that except for 33, Meshuggah's work tends to lend itself to solid, groove-based drumming. 33 might have received some nice treatment from Agren-style counterplay, of which I feel Haake totally capable, but they programmed those drums, and just imagine the excruciating difficulty of programming drum beats like Agren's.

[chepe371]

@DeadAmaranth you got it, the robozombie thing was a compliment to Haake, he is very articulate and has his own sort of clockwork fluidity, but hearing Morgan play with Fredrik, its 2 jazzmen congregating under the pretenses of metal. Genius. It works for Special Defects, wouldnt work with Meshuggah, where the playing is more hard edged.

[DeadAmaranth]

@chepe371 Cool. Yes, I agree. "Pretense of metal", I like that. Although I still consider Sun Door one of the heaviest things I've ever heard.

[Kafe420]

Morgan Ågren, no doubt about it. Check out the videos of Mats/Morgan band. creepy stuff

[SolBeing]

does anyone how to count "bouncing in a bottomless" my guess is the guitar riff is in 9...but wtf with the drums.. message me if you know how to count that groove????????????????????????­?????????

[mynameisniu]

the tempo is 9/8 but the riff is [4/8 on 3/8 + 4/8 on 3/8 + 4/8 on 3/8] which it can be thought as a 6/4 or 3/2

[xxDemonathxx]

eeyyyy show all record video....much people we like to see

[kibbson]

Morgan is like some crazy drum raping skull crushing monkey. Fucking great drummer.

[killzoomer]

Fredrik is AWESOME!!!

[Galactu5]

Actually, Fredrik is playing the hi-hat and it looks like he is off a little and so when Morgan hits it, it's either open or closed when it should be closed or open and so he plays the hi-hat at half speed.

Something like that. That beat is not hard for Morgan to play!

[needjack]

i think Morgan is using double foot pedal at that moment. But he normally use's a single pedal, just look at his feet.

[tonsbergbirds]

Noldus! Hes working the hihat

[needjack]

No look..fredrik is working the hi-hat, he is using a double. But Morgan rarely use's it.

[Flatvia]

stomping the beat with the left foot, people do it all the time ^^

[Galactu5]

it wasn't a mistake. He was messing around.

[iamqqqqqqq]

I love how silly all these guys are when they aren't busy playing, like that Meshuggah tour video where they show all sorts of footage of them screwing around in their down-time

[larsulrich09]

which part is it from 0:21to 1:58???? where I can find it???

[Kafe420]

it's Krapp's last tape and the other part is bouncing in a bottomless pit

[94mrwhite]

what the hell does sol niger within mean?

[SeraphSnake]

Black sun within

[94mrwhite]

oh it's latin!

[nuclearvoodoo]

I like fred's vomit-burp at the start

[charlezurich]

I bought a six pack of Coke hoping it would make me play more like these guys. It didn't

[freakguitar1]

:( :(

[ajagoff]

@charlezurich you need those cool 16 oz cans that he had.

[alcad81]

@charlezurich ahahahahahahahahah

[Remokari]

I fucking came.

[coskbeatz]

I love coke

[andrescampanella]

Welcome to Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects in spanish?

[jesserus]

Nope, he's saying "Special effects recording", but he's saying half of the sentence in swedish =)

[andrescampanella]

I like my original interpretation better. Sol Niger Within actually takes place in Venezuela.

[mjonas10]

Haha Spanish?

[jimilufnin]

hahaha he must really like Coca cola

[DWXVI]

Holy shit, Bouncing In A Bottomless Pit sounds so much crazier in this vid!! O_O

[iMeshug]

aagGREEEED

[iMeshug]

morgan and fredrik actually go back quite a bit...their parents knew each other well before they were musicians etc etc. theres something in the air in umea....

[iMeshug]

and this video sounds WAAAY heavier than the actual mix. which is unfortunate. bouncing in the bottomless pit in this video? shiiiit dude.

[Sandemose]

One other thing: Im not going to trash talk you (its not my intension, I promise, who am I to do so?) but after Ive seen your videos I can say this: you´ve got the shredwork (sweep and fast picking) down quite well, but I get the impression that you wouldnt navigate through chord sequences (even "easy" ones)with a convincing melodic description of the harmony beneath. You play patterns which indicates that you are not aware of what exactly you are playing (or why) Search for truth instead...

[p3945u5]

Why not just make music instead of fitting everything in theories and bars, it's not without reason they call them "bars" because it limits your creativity. ;)

[Sandemose]

Why not just make music instead of fitting everything in theories and bars, it's not without reason they call them "bars" because it limits your creativity. ;)

Why not draw benefit from every kind of information you might come across and combine it into something personal? It is in no way limiting to benefit musical ideas from theory, its one of many ways. Music is derived from a trillion of different aspects of our selfs, but to exclude theory for the sake of it: that is to limit your self.

[Erock5718]

it doesnt limit anything its just a way of organizing it.

[Sandemose]

"Sounds like a made-up-as-i-go-along" what you are refering to here is called improvisation, and might be one of the most beutiful artforms of all. Its a moment of truth that happens to be captured, as it was created within a pure glimpse of reality, a wordless connection betwenn musicians and the lister, filled with unspeakable information about our selfs as human beings. John 5? Isnt that Marylin Mansons guitarist?He has a beutiful collection of telecasters, one of the best Ive seen. Sandemose

[ruleoforder]

Love the COCA COLA shit at the beginning of this clip. LOL...

[lunarsiege]

i'll bet he was ecstatic to get morgan agren to play on this album

[HeltRetard]

Jag tror de gillar coca-cola

[steriliuz]

ingen sjangs

[dropGwolf]

Ahh yes, Zeta 1... gorgeousness

[thekeevster]

i wonder what that pill was...

[DrumMoose]

XXXtra strong mint. ;)

[steriliuz]

the new "polypill," for polyrhythmic energy

[LordVeon]

Crap leads? Listen to the solo in Z1-Reticuli, it's just amazing.

[DrumGit89]

if can't hear the music and innovation in this music, you should still be able to hear what an insane technical skill and ability these guys possesses to be able to play music like this! (:

[endonite]

NOt music? hes one hell of a drummer?!?

Off Beat Paradise

[AustinKronix]

how did you get this? and where is the rest of these tapes! i love it!!!!

[beabow64]

i hope that he won't become diabetic

[LeaveDenbyAlone]

Anyone who thinks this is a bunch of random garbage is a big, stupid idiot.

[Galactu5]

You don't get it yet. That's all, no offense mate. One of these days in the future when your musical knowledge increases you might come to understand what makes every last thing about this album rule. All of the solos on this album are amazing. I saw your own vids of you playing and you play nicely, but please trust us when we say Fredrik's solos are sweet and would make baby Jesus happy.

[LordHines420]

this video was already posted. but thanks for the repost. NOT.

[LordHines420]

hahaha. what a complete moron. the leads in Sol Niger the the best leads on any album ever conceived. dumb homo.

[jamieleesis]

It sounds crap to you because it is very dissonant. He is an unbelievable genius who draws on modal jazz for his guitar improvisations. Its not like some retard like Joe fucking Satriani! Tedious unimaginative dross. And by the way I'm a classically trained pianist playing at diploma level so don't use the musical superiority thing. I compare Fredrik Thordendal's solo work with that of John Coltrane on the sax. Dissonant at times yes, but always imaginative.

[bzM2bH]

what the lead is fucking brilliant

[stratman687]

you can't understand it, it's genius.

It's not about the notes. It's about the feel. Besides he's already a very accomplished soloist anyways, he's just not one to show off. I suppose you didn't get the copy with the bonus track 'Missing Time'.

Anyways, where the heck did this video come from?

[Lydianshadow]

its like if someone asks hi, "ooo ooo play something play something!! play metallica!!" he'll probably say i dont know any songs. I Love that. People are so monotonous & redundant

[grindcore4]

what year was this?

[7heaven33]

In 1997. The original version of the album was released in 1997 and then it was later remixed and re-released in February of 1999.

[7heaven33]

Although this footage was taken in August of 96'.

[EthanBurks]

thats a huge coke can

lol

a tallboy soda

[kiborum]

TRUE METAL GODS. that is all.

[stratman687]

jazz gods too :)

[kilderslive]

Marten's English from Meshuggah is fluent as he does most of the interviews. Jens's and Tomas's is also great.

I guess Fredrik's isn't that great, but this video is from more than 10 years ago so who knows.

[skezness]

what he says in the beginning is mostly swedish(wish i knew what he says)...there used to be an audio interview with fredrik around somewhere, he speaks really fluently too

[schwarg]

lol for a sec i thought he was doing an arnold schwarzenegger impersonation when he said 'in the studio' but then realized he was speaking swedish.

[LordHines420]

freddy boy, my idol, is FRENCH! AWW FUCK :(

[mephigog]

Thanks for posting. This is my favorite record of all time, and I had no idea studio footage existed.

[maximumsatann]

Compared to the other members in 'shuggah his English sucks.

[killerbiene243]

English? 0o

[plantera07]

i dont think jens speaks english at all

[BrightSide2k]

Well he kinda' sings in english. And he speaks english at every concert outside of scandinavia. So I laughed at you comment for about a minute.

[ZeeKat]

I've been to Norway and Sweden this year for holidays, and have impression that every damn person there speaks English (well). Nice.

[Kafe420]

yeah search for "Jens Kidman interview" and ull see hes not too bad

[killerbiene243]

hö.. What is he saying?

[skogge]

Fredrik -Welcome *rap*

Cameraman -Vänta, nu!

Fredrik -Welcome to Fredrik Thordendals eehspecialdefektsinspelning

Det här eh... så här ser det ut i... "in the studio" då alltså.

vi kan tända så ni förstår vad det handlar om allting.

Fredrik -Welcome *burp*

Cameraman -Wait, now!

Fredrik -Welcome to Fredrik Thordendal's eeh special defects recording

This is eh... This is what it looks like in... "in the studio" then.

We can turn on the lights so that you can understand what it's all about.

[onlythefirstwill]

agren is like a biiig furry teddy bear!

[funknotik1]

Fredrick looks like Toki from Deathlok

[ejay52]

I think I've heard somewhere that Toki was based of Fredrik

[mpeskett]

It's funny, I only started watching Metalocalypse the other day and that was the first thing I thought when I saw him hehe ^^

[AntagonistMortiis]

we need moar cowbell though.. ahah

[Chileandude18]

he had a fever..

and it only had 1 prescription...

[AntagonistMortiis]

Pretty neat hearing some of the guitar and drum tracks before it was fully finished. There are definately differences in the final version and these

[musciman1111]

MORGAN AGREN IS A BEAST.

[hossknot]

Pretty sure Fredrik is actually Kid Rock. Pretty sure.

[runkasnorkraka]

Haha. "Vi kan tända så ni förstår vad det handlar om allting!" Too much coke...

[stratman687]

first time ive ever heard him speak more than one word

[angelxdeathsugi]

what time is the drums playing at 0:21 and what time time is the guitar playing over it? That sound amazing

[skezness]

4/4

[uv777]

The snare is keeping a steady 4/4. The guitar is broken into 2 riffs, one on a 14/8 followed by one on a 18/8. Both being 32/8. Combined with the 4/4 by the drums, the entire phrase resolves on the 16th beat before being played again.

[maskedban]

thats a big coke

[NoisyPC]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Custom made you think? lol.

[NoisyPC]

EVen spookier, I just noticed the matching t-shirt! Promo? Lol.

[tommeeen]

Yeah, fuckin sellout xD

[ThisSpitefulSnake]

Cool vid!

[Catch33]

thanks for posting, amazing!

[Catch33]

hahahaha