Great Wall of China History: Mongol Invaders part 5

[AltaicSupremePride]

Our Turkish-Mongol ancestors the Xiong Nu fought the Han Chineser race who were so scared of us, they had to build the Great Wall to hide behind it. Modu Chanyu and Cengiz Kaan stepped on the Great Wall like Chinese whore step on tofu. Turkish people will reclaim lost lands north of the Great Wall! Free Southern Mongolia! Free Manchuria! Free Tibet! Free East Turkestan! UNITE ALL PEOPLE OF GREATER TURAN!

[babykevinxoxo]

Mongolia has done nothing lately. China is Superior Mongolia is inferior.

[vtnsx]

The great wall = chinese failure

[babykevinxoxo]

@vtnsx Mongolian men = perverts who raped innocent women in China Russia and Europe and the Arab world because Mongols are sick perverts.

[Komnenit]

Ho Mongolós

[samquan123]

Mongol kill chinese, now they copy those ancient house architecture, dragon style from the chinese..

[flashjetmax]

So not even the great wall helped.

[yeahyeahmgh]

we dont know exactly how accurate this documentary is. Important piece is the point of view from the mongols, since every story has two sides...

This documentary is about the creation of the Great Wall. Not the dispute of Mongols (not barbarians...sad documentary) and Chinese. The war ended hundreds of years ago, n today none of you know exactly why we continue to dislike each other. This is an era of evolution NOT war, we are intelligent human beings who can understand ones sufferin'........

[Shaolinkungfucat]

If I had a time machine I would go back and shoot Ghengis Khan and the rest of the Mongol barbarian monkeys in the face with a Rocket Propelled Grenade launcher and feed their remains to rottweilers.

The dirty Mongols, and the appaling Manchus are animals that slowed the advancement of the great Han race and the middle kingdom. If it wasn't for these barbarians the Middle Kingdom would never in a war lose the little Japanese or the barbarian British.

*checks my shotgun and aims at Mongols*

[brothersixteen]

this documentary is very inaccurate. If you didn't know the history of China, one get the feeling the Han dynasty was a total failure after watching this fictitious bull. Emperor Wudi was one of the most revered and successful leader in China's long history. The Han dynasty provided stability for a long stretch of time. There were never eternal prosperity in any ancient civilization, look at rome, Greece, Persian, assyria. The wall was effective when there were an army guarding it.

[krglongbourn]

It would be really nice if youd all list books where I can read the history of thse people who you must admit were so advanced in all that they did. (unfortunately the peasants always suffered the most)

[Sicj]

This sounds a lot like the Mexican - American border now... hmmm.... who says we cannot learn lessons from the past?

[groovylocks]

@Sicj me. Because we never, EVER do :(

[kentkaizen]

the general name was li ling

and no, he was not forced into battle by wudi

he volunteered for the mission even though he lack the experience

and no, wudi did not execute his family based on his surrender

rather when he found out that li ling was training xiong nu army

inprecise history misguide the people

[Dictator300]

So in other words, what we prize today, they hated yesterday! xD

Oh what irony!

[recruitmentch]

@Dictator300 well of course. historically it only reminds them of continuous military and economic disaster. it is treasured today because of the money it generates through tourism.

I have a Polish friend who tells me that Poles absolutely hate being asked about Auschwitz. Whilst it is spoken about for historical and educational importance, she tells me that Poles see it as a huge moral and ethical burden to have had something so horrid built and operated within poland. same thing in a way.

[hanwenzero]

this is retarded so in the end westerners brought the walls to light -.- never valued but so many dynastys build them. never worked???? the the mongols were forced to live in a land of nothing while the han enjoyed a much better life. this video is retarded...

[canadianfirzen]

this is wrong... Han dynasty crashed the Xiongnu...

[Dictator300]

@canadianfirzen Actually that's false, the Xiongnu disappeared. Scholars believe they are the Huns, but there is no concrete proof behind it.

[canadianfirzen]

@Dictator300 Xiongnu does not disappear like that...... and I don't remember what i said i think i am not stupid enough to say Xiongnu was the huns, but the hunz are asian for sure... the only reason there is no solid proof is that hunz didn't leave any writing documentz... but most ppl agree they came from the steppes of Asia, some even say they are from the plains of China.....

[canadianfirzen]

@Dictator300 where else can this big number of nomadic barbarian come from???

[Dictator300]

@canadianfirzen The document says that the Xiongnu language and the Hun are miles apart. The Xiongnu would have had to had travel thousands of miles through modern day Russia. And Russia is barren waste of cold in those days.

Plus, the Xiongnu did not practice self-mutilation as the Huns did unto themselves.

[canadianfirzen]

@Dictator300 This is my four points: 1. I didn't say xiongnu and hunz are the same thing. 2. they can't prove or disprove the hunz were not the xiongnu, and from the records of europeans hunz actually has asian features. 3. hunz and xiongnu are hundreds of yrs apart as well. 4. in that time a lot of things can happen and in that time they can cross Russia.

[Dictator300]

@canadianfirzen Each one is an excellent point, but I assure you, you did say the Xiongnu were the Huns. The document says that the Huns practiced tying some rope around their noses and squishing it to make themselves look more fiercesome. They aren't born that way.

[AustGuyTang]

a subject never turns his back to the emporer

[Dictator300]

@AustGuyTang That's where I disagree. In China, some people actually have the nerve to tell the Emperor to go to hell. Unlike in Japan, where Emperor's are considered holier than the word Holy.

[canadianfirzen]

@Dictator300 actually there is only one dynasty that Chin were allowed to criticise the emperor and that is the ming dynasty. There are periods in Japan that the emperor does not have any power, but the generals do... I think Japan just shouldn't call their ruler the emperor becuz they don't own an empire...

[tbearzhang]

Genghis Khan never conquered China...It was his grandson Kublai Khan who unified China.

[victortan1]

It was believed because of this, the Xiong Nu retreated to the North and some migrated to the west which some centuries later become the Hun.

The story said about not trading with the Xiong Nu, seriously what can the Xiong Nu trade with? Loots from the raiding the Han border? Its like robbing your money and saying I exchange these with your goods.

All their goods are not needed by the Han.

[CadenceMarquee]

good point

[Dictator300]

@victortan1 The theory that the Xiongnu being the Huns is still under debate and is never proven. What you say is a myth.

[victortan1]

Why is the title name Mongol invader while in the show is about the Xiong Nu? Not only they are different tribes, they are in different era as well.

During Xiong Nu's era, since the Wu Di change the "He Qing" policy to offensive foreign policy, they never maintained the wall anymore. The policy is to attack the Xiong Xu every few years, slaughtering their pple and herds so that they will never grow strong enough to poise a threat to the Han Empire.

[victortan1]

The great wall was never built to defend against all barbarian attacks. The barbarians lived in tribes and there are thousands of them. The great wall is to defend against any of these tribes raiding the chinese borders.

Only once or twice in a century, will a great leader unite these tribes to attack and conquer china. These attacks will never be defended by walls alone.