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  • Nothing wrong with Socialism

  • I used to think I was a conservative republican.

    Turns out I wasn't, but I didn't realize it until conservative republicans showed me.

  • TURKS LIE LIE LIE, ITS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE FARM SUBSIDIES BUT WHAT SHE HAS DONE IF WRITTEN OFF EQUIPMENT ON HER TAXES. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU BUY A GIANT FARM MACHINE THEN ITS TAX DEDUCTABLE. FUCK YOU CENK YOU ARE A LYING PIECE OF SHIT. ITS NOT LIKE SHE GOT A CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

  • obviously (again) unscrupulous people have zeroed in on a program that was designed to make things better, not make rich people richer like Michele Bachmann.

  • Why does not the media ask her about these farm subsides,medicare to her husbands counseling which she claims to leave him out of it but uses that same business as her experience to run the country, her plan on how she is going to get $2 gas, why she can not remember dates, history,what her plan is for job creation and what her spending cuts would be and where she got her college degree from they say its a made up Christian College and finally why her eyes look possessed!

  • @MoishaFromstein, it's called hypocrisy until the next year when the farmer goes bankrupt, can't plant, and your food costs twice as much.

  • Well said!!!

  • It's not the same thing. Farm subsidies help keep critical commodities low and allow farmers to continue farming. Some years, farmers lose hundreds of thousands of dollars due to something unpredictable like rain timing or pestilence.

  • @ditsy6 Well, if these politicians are so against subsidies, they shouldn't take them themselves. It's called hypocrisy.

  • Benjamin Franklin was right. “I observed that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves.”

  • Subsidies are meant to help people who produce something, like say farmers who produce food.

    What are the people on welfare producing, besides illigitimate children and crime statistics?

  • just dropped in to endorse RON PAUL! thanks for your time

  • Bachman's entire financial well being comes from sucking from the govt teet. Check my channel for the latest on Bachman! The farm subsidies are the tip of the ice burg. She has her hand in your pocket!

  • Bachmann/West 2012!!!!

    To hell with Obama, to hell with Hillary Clinton, to hell with Eric "I hate white people" Holder. Socialism (massive spending, welfare, tolerance) is destroying America. Oddly enough Socialism is destroying Europe, too; look at Greece, Ireland, Spain. Socialism is a pipe dream, it doesn't even work in theory, it's all about government supremacy. READ ATLAS SHRUGGED!!!!!!!

  • All congressman and senators have free healthcare even before the healthcare bill, public service my ass.

  • I am not a witch...oops wrong chick BUT--it works.

  • What are you saying, Fuck Farmers?

    Um, I need to eat.

  • I normally stick out of Youtube folks but he does make real points. I tend to agree with him on this one. Michele Bachmann is a useless government thief. His numbers are accurate that I see.

  • Michelle & hubby didn't benefit from GOV'T Subsidies, they went to pay the employees and her in laws is her claim. I own several businesses, I wish to have the government pay for my employees wages and support my inlaws and I won't take one red cent of that money.

    .....

    Of course the money that would have gone to my employees in wages and my inlaws I can keep free and clear and claim I didn't benefit directly from Gov't Aid.

    ....

    How looney is this woman? She is crazy and a liar.

  • Now THIS is NEWS. THIS is REPORTING. THIS is the kind of thing I want to hear about from reporters. FACTS, that allow for UNDERSTANDING of what goes on in government!

  • @GetMeThere1 This is pretty much the only place to get true facts on politicians and current events.

  • Know how you can tell if someone's sincere about engaging in argument rather than simply displaying emotional reaction? By their supplying specifics and details. (Which is why I appreciated dude's comment to me below.)

  • You really are uninformed.But as usual when you win an argument people of your kind always resort to name calling.Check mate on another drone

  • I can't believe the utter (and uttered) ignorance here by wingnuts, not even worth replying to, sigh.

  • @etymon2 just because someone does not say wat you want to believe does not make it untrue. neither does it make them ignorant. why dont you do some research on what he said

  • "Corporate Welfare Bums". Steven Lewis coined it decades ago.

  • @johnken35 I agree with what you say, maybe should've been more specific about the real welfare/entitlements in US: to global corporations! Anyone can look at the HUGE discrepancy in "hand-outs." The real hand-outs are to the ones who own the nation (and politicians in general). It was Paul Wellstone, I believe, who came up with the term "corporate welfare," a reality we're trained to avoid looking at.

  • @etymon2 "Corporate Welfare Bums". Steven Lewis coined it decades ago.

  • @mrpcnomore I learned in Al-Anon that when people don’t want to hear certain realities, no amount of facts or logic can convince them; they can’t hear or see what they don’t want to hear or see. Personally, I don’t waste time anymore on folk like you, but have a good day. ;)

  • Michelle Bachman may be a welfare queen. She definitely  is a lying hypocritical bitch.

  • I am sure that Michelle will give back that money as soon as illegals pay for their health care and schools, the blacks give back all their welfare checks, Wall Street and banks and AIG and Unions give back their Bailouts.

  • @666sigma There are more whites on welfare then any other race! So the whites need to give back those welfare checks right?

  • @phuture101

    Yes.

  • @666sigma Go tell them to give it back!

  • This video shows how absolutely idiotic The Young Turks really are.

    They do no research into their subjects.

    I'd rather take my info from The National Inquirer. At least they make me laugh.

    TYT just makes me cry.

  • @pseudohippie55 I guess you get all your news from Rush Limbaugh, lol

    A Fat Ass Pill Popping Bigot!

  • @PorscheB06 I'd rather listen to Rush than watch CNN.

    Ask anyone on CNN where Hawai'i is.

    They'll point to Guam.

    Hell, they did it ON CAMERA!

    HA!!!!

  • Don"t left wing idiots get it ?...If you think to 2010 election was a nightmare? What till 2012! ...With Obama on the ticket I could run against Barack and carry 42 states!..2012 will be bigger ass kicking than 2010...Word.

  • @biskitlee Let's just hope the SEIU doesn't control the voting polls in 2012. They'll do everything they can to get Obama re-elected. They'll use dead voters like they did in 08

  • @pseudohippie55 And the same way they did in 2000 and 2004 to elect that mentally challenged retard bush right?

  • @deeppurple28 Dead voters were never used to cheat Bush into office the way they were in 08. And the SEIU was never involved in 00 or 04.

    Yes. Bush was a retard.

    At least he can pronounce "corpsman" and tell you how many states are in our union.

  • @pseudohippie55 I see, then why did he say that Iraq had NUCULAR Weapons? LMFAO! They were never found! LMFAO NUCULAR! LMFAO! Nucular, its pronounced Nucular!!!

  • @deeppurple28 Still, Obama can't tell you how many states are in our union

    That's pretty damn sad if you ask me.

    But I suppose couning isn't the strong point of Liberals

  • @pseudohippie55 What's even sadder is not having the mental capability to pronounce a word that even a 5 year old can pronounce. Nucular? Really? I thought it was Nuclear!

  • @deeppurple28 You're right. Obama is a sad little man. Why can't he pronounce the word "corpsman". And if your the President, shouldn't you be able to count how many states are in our union.

    I mean, even a 3 year old can yell you that.

  • @pseudohippie55 Sad little man, yeah I'm sure of that, Obama is a joke in deed, but that little funny eared moron Dubya just cracked me up with the speeches he used to try to give. I love watching my favorite video, George Bush bloopers. Better than Comedy Central. Hey Dubya, its pronounced Nuclear not NUCULAR! LMFAO!

  • @deeppurple28 You must be talking about George Bush. He could not pronounce many words correctly, including nuclear. 

  • @PorscheB06 And Obama can't pronounce "corpsman", nor can he tell America how many states are in the union.

    Brilliant man, huh?

  • @pseudohippie55 I agree with you except for Bush wasn't a retard.Thats a statement you should take back.Was he a good speaker.No, not by a long shot.But that doesn't make him a retard.And he isn't a socialist. You should try to refrain from using that word anyway.Everything else though you are right on.And this time his obummers speeches will not fool the voters.Were onto him big time

  • @mrpcnomore I honestly don't remember saying Bush ws retard. I never use tht word the wy you say I did. I think you're mistaking me for someone else. Either tht, or I was being sarcstic in comment.

  • no she isn't a queen but a REPUBLICAN WHOA WHO WHENEVER SHE HAS A CHANCE RUBS HER BREAST AGAINST KARL ROV GEORGE BUSH and the rest of the republicaqns chest

  • Cenk, why are you politicizing a non-story and trying to make it a story? YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FARMS AND THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATIONS! I've always called TYT out for a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LACK OF INTEGRITY and now you've sank to a new and completely ridiculous new low! Come on! This is ridiculous!

  • @Slipknotyk06 he's not saying all farms and subsidies are bad; he's talking about the political hypocrisy on how these rich people have farms and are taking in millions on subsidies while they turn around and say no to gov. hand outs. please, next time, listen to the rest and actually listen.

  • They can't give it back it payed the bills. The Banks got it all. Turn your lights on fool. Farmers rich? I get your point. Maybe we should just give it to the banks and cut the farmer's out. What's for supper???

  • @sparrow053

    stuff from africa, south-america, china; just like with everything else.

  • "No.....next question". LOL!

  • We need to put a cap on subsidies. How about $200,000 annually, maximum.

  • A lot of people posting on this issue are missing the point . This is not a democrat vs republican debate on subsidies .Cenk is highlighting the double speak of politicians on both sides of the political spectrum , that they share a common ground. They are rich farmers who benefit from government handouts but are against handouts for the poor.This is a rich vs poor issue .

  • Now more than ever TAX the Rich ... if you don't do that than you are definitly dumb ...

  • Can't really blame the politicians, if the 'people' weren't so fucking stupid they wouldn't let them get away with this shit.

    Hear so many people say voters don't have power, yes, they do. If they aren't fucking idiots.

  • Neocons have been able to turn socialism into a bad word and use that to their advantage only by deliberately encouraging American ignorance. Most citizens here don't know the difference between economies and political systems. Repubs deliberately conflate the two so people can equate socialism with tyranny, unable to conceive of socialist DEMOCRACIES. This confusion helps keep the "peasants" under control. Sharing ANYTHING "in common"? Horrors!

  • @etymon2 Are you ignorant of history and current events.When and where has socialism ever worked?Please tell me.And if you think it does or should then you are probably one of those people who are on the wagon rather than off of it helping push the wagon.The prob;em is at some point you run out of other peoples money.Is it working in Europe?NO.Did it work in the FORMER Soviet Union.Again NO.WAKE UP.

  • @mrpcnomore Socialism does work in Europe you fucking idiot. France and Germany are powerhouse economies and have a socialistic democracy for government.

  • Hmmm...you guys don't find it hypocritical that he is using farm subsidies...a democratic proposed , anti-free market device to keep farm prices artificially high by NOT planting crops that farmers now depend on ...to butcher these people for not supporting a welfare state where people are paid NOT to work and depend on the government

  • Republicans like that Bitch live in a lie they think everyone else is inferior because they are immoral stupid uneducated. They want to speak of everyone being a welfare case but all they do is self project their self hatred, misery and paranoia that they can only ease when they're rippping into some unsuspecting person. They will never live in peace because they will always need a scapegoat. Crass harpies

  • Farm subsidies are a National Security issue Did you figure that out yet?? So is Oil Production and Refineries as our Jets and tanks run on JP4 5 and Gasoline not on piss and wind like You do!.. TyT host is a simpleton!

  • ummm...enjoy the gop tsunami douchebag

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  • Usually I enjoy Cenk's contributions, but this is ridiculous. It's the same as arguing that rich liberals are hypocrites for not voluntarily paying higher taxes. They support higher taxes, but you can't expect them to unilaterally pay them, any more than you can expect Bachmann (or her family) to disclaim all subsidies, even if they think subsidies should be reduced.

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  • He conveniently left out Hillary Clinton who got Farm Subsidies up to 1,000,000 for New York City roof top gardeners.

  • @AXESMI When did she scream about socialism?

  • @AXESMI Because Hillary isn't as much of a hypocrit. She campaigned on Health Care Reform.

  • @ Turk: Do you even know what/why farm subsidies exist? GOVERNMENT CONTROL. It's governments way of keeping farm prices artificially low. If family farm owners didn't take "subsidies" they would be bankrupt b/c farming wouldn't be worth it with the artifical pricing in place.

    Do you try to take all of the "tax credits" and income deductions you can get when/if you file taxes? That's what farm subsidies are all about.... Get real. Do some REAL Journalism. get off the chair and ASK QUESTIONS.

  • Reactionary Slut and Whore!

  • I already knew about this pathetic hypocrit - I used to overlook her because she sounds like such an idiot but she is the worst of the worst when is comes to handouts - she's pathetic. And yes in reality she is a welfare queen - you want to see the type of morons that voted her in just look at the crowd standing in line to have Palin sign their books.

  • I'm not wealthy and I don't want handouts either Turk dumbass! Have some pride.

  • Turk, you are a 'turd' !

  • NO CONGRESSMAN HANK JOHNSON IS A WELFARE QUEEN ! He is alos a COMMUNIST LIKE TYT. The Turkish Armenian killers !

  • Society is fucked up because schools steal childrens childhood, corporations fuck small businesses and customers over and we are all living in a fucked up rule of The mob democratic system where there are no rules and people constantly fuck each other over in order to capitalize and make money..

    I have plenty of reasons for hating the state of this fucking country...

  • What did you eat for lunch today Cenk?

  • Would you do a little research for me? What is the monthly welfare payment per dependent child, $1,500.00? Using this figure, it computes to $18,000. per year and $198,000. for your eleven year period. Now, multiply this amount by multiple children. I am against all CASH subsidies.

  • What is the monthly welfare payment for one child, $1500. per month? This computes to $18,000. per year or $ies198,000. over your eleven (11) year period. In addition to farm subsidies I am against cash subsidies or all types.

  • WAY TO GO YOUNG TURK! YOU DID GO AFTER 'EM, YOU REALLY GOT 'EM! that's so true. they are basically cutthroats who care nothing if people die without a roof over their heads. they lie lie lie! they are criminals!

  • Gov. employees average income is 70,000 a year.

  • @pathwayproductions please site a reference... I disagree

  • @edbook opps "cite" vice "site"

  • Yes, welfare is one of those programs that needs to be ELIMINATED, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER GOVERNMENT SCAMS. I would start with all of the WOMEN who get pregnant on purpose to get on the government dole (and/ or to trap the man). That's right, you get pregnant it is on your own dime----no wic, welfare, food stamps, well baby care, medicaid or ANY OF THOSE GOVERNMENT GOODIES. And if you cannot take care of your kids, you lose custody. With my plan, watch the illegitimate births go very very low.

  • that's not the majority using welfare. it's the working poor, moms, dads, abandoned wives, battered women, elderly on foodstamps, etc. People with abusive family who won't help them. YOU ARE A JERK TICKYUL! PEOPLE WOULD DIE WITHOUT HELP! LET YOU LOSE YOUR HEALTH AND ALL INCOME AND THEN BE THE FIRST TO GO!

  • I addressed a specific problem, women getting on the government dole because they pump them out like tasty cakes. That is where I would start. Have a kid on your own dime. If you cannot provide for your kid, you lose custody, most people would learn real quick. Thanks for lowering the conversation to a childish level, it reflects poorly on you.

  • @tickyul Then you would get millions 's of kids in welfare you have to care for.

    If that sort of thing worked, Death penalties would completely eliminate crime...... Hell countries like Russia which basically have the system your proposing there are 100000's of orphans.

    I dunno what compelled you to say what you said. You must be very new to how the world actually works.

  • @CmdrTobs Russia went through a massive change in their governmental system, massive changes take time to adapt to. As for the Bums getting knocked up so they can go on welfare, most would get the picture really quick that the rug is being pulled out from under them, no goodies would take away the incentive of pumping out that little bastard. Sure there would be a need for adoptive/foster families for kids of the dummies still pumping them out, numbers would be a lot lower though.

  • @tickyul "numbers would be a lot lower though." - that's what your whole argument rests on. Not the case. The juries been out then come in. There are many of countries that have the "your on your own" system and in fact most of them have MORE children so that the kids can take care of them in later life.

    If you are of the mindset that the pittance of welfare is an "incentive" then YOU will have kids if it weren't there. How do you think we got to 7Billion in a mostly welfare free planet?!

  • @CmdrTobs Well, you are not even close to being accurate in your diatribe. First of all, a lot of people in 3rd world countries have lots of kids so they will have support in their old age. In this country we have the Social Security system. Also, the pittance is quite a lot in the eyes of some scammer who wants to work the system....let's see they get Wic, well baby care, welfare, food stamp, low income housing or section 8 housing and about 200 other scam programs because they pump them out.

  • @tickyul " in 3rd world countries have lots of kids so they will have support in their old age" Right, that's one reason. More fundamental than that is lack of contraception, they have no choice. Humans are just mammals. Its normal and default to have 6+ kids. Its a happy coincidence they look after you in old age.

    Predatory welfare seekers is largely a myth. In all every western democracy less is paid out than census data says qualify.

    diatribe??! - do you know what that means?

  • @CmdrTobs Well, I am sure you have heard of the concept "if you incentivize a behavior you will increase said behavior"? This is what has happened in this country many millions of times. If there was announcement tommorrow that women would get ZERO goodies for knocking out a little bastard, which way do you think the pregnancy rate among sluts would go, up or down? Remember the stigma that used to be attached to out fo wedlock births, now it is just oh so trendy.

  • @tickyul The penalties for reckless living are self evident. It's not really portrayed as trendy anywhere, that's your perception.

    Many countries DO have I repeat DO have less support for single parents. Much of eastern Europe provides little help..... and their teen /single parent birth rates are on the high side, much higher than Scandinavia which has some of the lowest rates in the world yet has the most generous systems.

    You're talking theory. I am TELLING you reality. You can't win.

  • @CmdrTobs Ok, lets look at the modest reforms to welfare mode under the Clinton administration. It put some requirements onto both the states and the welfare recipient. These reforms are generally recognized as an across the board success, even if there was loopholes that made this crackdown less effective. Free stuff attracts people by the millions, pump out a baby and get stuff attracts millions of leeeeeches.

  • @tickyul What you can't understand is that people are not rational.

    You are like a communist telling people "everyone work 10hrs a day for the betterment of the nation and everyone will never starve and have every material need catered for"

    Only some people won't work, either because they are lazy or resentful of having to share.

    Deal with reality. Base your views on REALITY tickyulski.

  • @CmdrTobs Uh, now you are getting a little off track, you are losing me. I am like a commie because I think the welfare system needs TRUE reform? And reality could happen in exactly the way I stated: Let the sluts know that they will recieve nothing if they pump out a little bastard, watch the sluts all of the sudden find birth control.

  • @tickyul No, because sluts in Sweden and Norway get WAY WAY more but they are WAY LESS unplanned pregnancies.

    You are exactly like a commie, because you are convinced your way works despite tons of counter evidence.

    I will let you in on something that might make your mind spin... Its education. Not even sex-ed, just general education. Teach someone math, Eng, Geog etc.. it gives people ambition. Even in the 3rd world there is a MASSIVE difference in

    the birthrate in the kid who go to school.

  • @CmdrTobs Haha, that is really funny, try again. What is the population of Sweden....let's see right around 10-11 million. The exponential explosion of problems this country would experience if we offered bennies like The People's Republic Of Sweden, out national debt would be 30 trillion instead of the current 13 trillion, the USA is not Sweden. Wait until your country has a large population of illegal aliens, Africans and hispanics then I will consider your opinion valid, until then FAIL.

  • Have to admit it, but he has a point on this one. I am a conservative. I think Cenk is wrong about pretty much everything, but not on this. As a conservative this hypocrisy annoys me.

  • captaindiesalot why do you seem so angry, I mean agree with most of what you say but the profanity and name calling just shows how bad your credibility is and gives true conservatism a bad name just letting you know

    peace.

  • This guy is a fucking idiot.

  • good job.

  • The best way to fix our economy is to:

    Get rid of the welfare system.

    Relax Zoning laws in rural areas..

    Replace the weakened United states dollar with reliable self inflating currency such as silver coinage..

    #4 Make immigration policy far more strict.

    #5 Make the tax system based on donations to a community fund to pay for public services.

    Create a strong self sufficient local economy with local mini markets.

    We make it law requiring 3 exports per an import.

  • some of this is ok but do you really propose to have millions of decent low wage people now on welfare, just starving in the streets? You did not give any replacement of how to help people survive their personal economic hard times, so i assume their deaths at your request, is ok with you.

  • @cobainzlady

    I think if I got my hands on a few thousand acres of good farm able build able land with plenty of trees and had some felons do work on it as community service I could end poverty unemployment and create programs to give inmates who wanna work some decent money..

    If you know how to plan things out you can easily solve a lot of problems in society you just have to have the right frame of mind when it comes to how to deal with them......

  • if you count the whole year of 1995 through the end of 2006, that's 12 years, not 11.

    GREAT VIDEO!

    they're ALLLL full of shit in DC.

  • bullSHIT; chrome is NOT faster than firefox.

    i hate chrome.

    google is evil. use the scroogle scraper; it uses google results but blocks search term records!!!!!!!!!!

  • warum? und wer bist du genau?

  • Where is my socialism money? I fucking hate these people. I have to pay for all my shit.

  • On top of that, these Republican Farmers hire illegal immigrants to work on their farms and then oppose immigration reform because that'll mean that they have to pay the illegals more money.

  • hypocritiacal bitch

  • the line between " opposition" and Treason is becoming more clear each day. Treachery undermining our Constitution. The backlash will happen faster than the pundits can blog and suits like this can post a video.

    see you on the battlefield.

  • Turk, every episode is: this Repub is bad and dumb.

    WOW. That's the purpose of ur channel??? To pretend Repubs are ALL bad and Dems are ALL good???

    U r soo prejudiced and lack priorities.

    Who the frick cares if its a Dem or Repub. Both deserve blame if they betray the public. Politicians are supposed to work for the ppl ala "public service."

    Get your priorities straight. Go after Dems too or else u r a blind hypocrite.

    GROW UP TURK. QUIT PRETENDING TO BE FOX TV.

  • @pccchurch did you bother to watch the video??? He did name the dems as well as the repugthugs.

  • @pccchurch Hit the nail on the head, that is why I tire of left wing radio, one long rant against the Republicans and deification or the Dems. I guess that is why left talk always folds up, too annoying.

  • Why don't u go after Pelosi? She had her chance to impeach Bush but she copped out.

    Turk grown up. If your Dems can't even impeach Bush, then your Dems betrayed us all.

    Get it TURK??? Dems suck like Repubs.

    Grow a brain Turk!

    Grow up Turk!

  • Fuck Michelle Bachmann...cracka ass welfare recieving ass hoe! I wanna stuff my dick rite in her big right-wing mouth!

  • This somes up 99% of the right. They are not for free markets at all.

    They attack "entitlement programs" yet only ones for the poor that upset the badly educatged middle classes.

    I might actually support them if there first measures at deregulation and "Free markets" were:

    1)Freedom of contract - i.e gays can actually enter a marriage contract

    2)Remove subsidies for the un-needy FIRST (farm subs, corp taxes...)

    3)Removal of cooperation rights, so they default to individual rights.

    ...

  • 4) Removal of patents. If someone sees your idea, why in a truly free market can anyone not copy? Did the first tribesmen to invent the bow kill everyone who copied??

    5)Free trade - Is it really free markets when immigration and thus the labour market has massive tarrifs?

    6) Free zoning, why can't I open my ugly looking car garage in beverly hills? Ah yes the rich are not for my free enterprise. Though they WILL open a recycling depo behind MY house.

    I could go on till 100.

  • Haha yeah that's some real free market stuff, and I bet this guy couldn't stomach it, anyway I'm tired of talking to him so I'll take your advice and let it go

  • If you read I've been trying to get this guy to see the light for a week now, it goes on for pages, I give up! CmdrTobs, hes all yours if you want to try

  • Joe the plummer recieved welfare.

  • Our problem is Congress They all need to go Everyone one of them are extremely wealthy I have neighbors who are dairy farmers and they get money from the Government They are paid to NOT grow produce That way it can be imported from foreign countries to keep their farmers working Start posting on how we can get rid of Congress and start a new party. They should all agree to work for a set salary be on the same health plan they want us on and after 6 years they have to go home

  • WELFARE FOR EVERYONE ! 95% OF black children at some point in their lives receive food stamps ! meaning THAT they are generational WARDS of the state and ABUSE the system ! if they get foodstamps THEY HAVE EVERY BENEFIT UNDER THE SUN !

  • WhiteIgniters, Except they get the most lame schools. Why don't you right wing Christians lecture me why feeding the poor is bad. While you give Bachman Incorporated more of my tax dollars.

  • 95% were are your facts and proof.

    Nice way to make up facts

  • why has socialism become a bad word?

    why?

  • It is only a bad word with neanderthols (aka  Republicans)

    Top ten countries to live in are so called socialist.

  • it's bad to those who want control via money taking. capitalists without conscience. But who really made it bad, was people like communist russia/ stalin, the nazis (national socialist party) etc who are very closely affiliated idealogically. The atheism part, with the death camps really polluted the whole scene.

    So to be a socialist is bad to most in their mind, but to practice christian charity and communal sharing , nearly the same thing, is good. remember that. Believe me they don't seem to.

  • @cobainzlady dam. you commenting up storm. i will respect you if your christian, even though i am atheist.

  • @econchick Ask Hitler when you meet him. According to Wikipedia, 'The term Nazi derives from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP).'

    But I imagine you'll tell me he wasn't really a Socialist, right?

  • @econchick

    Nothing wrong with socialism. The National Socialist party in Germany really did a lot of good things. History has really demonized the great Nazi experiment.

    I am being sarcastic.

    Socialism is when the oligarchs rule. Big business and government are almost one. What he is telling you is true. The only thing he is leaving out is that we are already very socialist.

    Free market for small business

    Socialism for too big to fails.

  • Don't worry turkey. These subsidies and the rest of the pork will be gone soon.

  • Rich get richer is just fine

    Poor get help to live is socialism

    Business as usual, unfortunately

  • Magnes:

    yes, and the Dumb getting dumber is obvious with your comment.

  • Captain you are incapable of debate, all you do is insult people, that speaks to your intellect.

  • Nig,

    You're a mono-synoptic cretin, I like to keep things simple for socialists-liberals-collectivi­sts-marxists, and yes, Nazi's.

  • Do you even know what the difference is between socialism, liberalism, Marxism and fascism is? You are the moron. They are not the same thing. All these good people want is a system that respects the lower and middle class and your argument against that consists of insults, attacking straw men, and ignorance. You are so paranoid about the government it borders on psychosis. The system we have now DOESN'T WORK. Millions of people die without insurance. This is a civilized country its not needed

  • Nig:

    Ohhhh, "millions of people die without insurance..." What nonsense, where's the evidence? Where? it's in your demented brain; like the demented brains of all you collectivist fools.

    Stick with Young Turks, they are as fucking stupid as you are...just more crap spewing from those that would rather SUCK the TIT rather than be Free and Independent. What a bunch of weak people you are.

  • You still haven't told me why a public option is a bad idea and what regulation has caused the banks to fail. Maybe you don't know and just are talking out of your hate filled ass?

  • nig:

    The FED was created to stop these type of crises, at least that was how it was SOLD to the American People. It was a lie. Maybey you're just a fucking idiot. Read a little, the whole account of modern banking scams is contained in a book called: The Creature From Jykell Island

  • You are absolutely right about the Fed being created to manage money. What you forgot is that it was created by Senate Republican leader Nelson Aldrich NOT democrats

  • i think you are watching the wrong program you should be watching FOX NEWS where their propaganda will serve you well this program is for the homo sapiens man not the neanderthal man like yourself this program is for people who is interested in facts not fictions you seem to like the fiction more so you need to stop blogging here and watch FOX NEWS

  • To answer your question, it was proven in a Harvard Healthcare Study last year that 44,000 uninsured Americans die every year because they lack affordable access to healthcare.

    Also, the human species is collectivist by nature, just like dogs, birds, chimps, horses, etc. Our survival has always depended on our ability to function in groups, and to work together. We are not solitary creatures, regardless of the wishful thinking of the right-wing.

  • wft:

    So much for your millions of people.

  • Did you know there is more then one year? That means that if 44 thousand die every year, eventually it will be millions you twat.

  • amen! but in america we are all mostly transplants, removed from family, so we do not have the natural order of family, extended family, clan, tribe. we have in short, no real social safety nets built in for the average person when our personal economy goes wrong. so we HAVE to use a welfare system to help the needy survive til they find their way. Until the natural familial order gets established and people take care of their extended family and clan.

  • what a lot of conservatives should remember is, IF they are a christian, that Christians are supposed to share everything with each other as they have need. Rich with poor, etc. But you will not usually see these piggish capitalist money suckers doing that even for their own church members if they have any. They are ANATHEMA! TO USE A GREEK CHRISTIAN WORD. they are unacceptable!

  • All you need to do is look to Europe, they are all satisfied with their health care and love it. Why would it be any different here?

  • What possible harm could come from a public option, we could regulate the inusrance companies, stop the unneeded death and greed and break the monopolies, what part of that is bad?

  • Nig:

    Government IS a monopoly, you idiot.

  • The public option isn't a monopoly, its a tool used to keep insurance companies from continuing to fix prices and raise their rates in unison. They do that because the free market doesn't work. What regulation caused the insurance companies to price fix? The problems we are facing are caused by the banks using citizens money to make their bets on wall street, that has nothing to do with regulation. It has to do with LACK of regulation. I defy you to prove that it was regulation that caused this.

  • Health care in europe and canada is fine too. I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from but their health care has the approval of the citizens, if you ask them they are appalled by the system the US has. You should be appalled to, and you would be if you had a soul or any compassion. How many people have to die before you realize the system has failed? How will decreasing regulation stop insurance companies from raising their rates, how will it break the monopoly,you aren't making sense

  • NIG:

    There's plenty of evidence here on YouTube about the numerous failures in both Canada and GB. You think you're system is better? Medicare is BROKE; Medicaid has DESTROYED California and New York.

    Grow up you little thief, Socialism doesn't work, anywhere.

  • Without regulation the rich loot everything like they did in the past, they abuse the workers, exploit the enviroment and destroy everything. You think they will stop doing that when their is profit to be made? THAT'S why regulation is needed. The people that run corporations are like you, they are uncaring monsters, without government to stop them they will ruin this country. Want proof? The banks ran the economy into the ground by being irresponsible and greedy.

  • Nig:

    More Marxism...nothing new here. You must be a complete loser.

  • We get the health care and pay for it by taxing the billionaires, they will be fine trust me, they will still be billionaires. Like Eisenhower said, the rich have a responsibility to pay high taxes for the good of society. Why are you defending the pigs that use you? Are you stupid? Or do you think that they care about you or what?

  • he is one of them or a wannabe.

  • The worst part is you don't realize how ridiculous you sound. "OMG THE NAZIS ARE GOING TO GIVE ME HEALTH CARE I BETTER GRAB MY GUN AND START A CIVIL WAR!" This will directly benefit YOU as a middle class American. You will be able to go to a hospital and get affordable meds and health care. Why are you against that?

  • NiG:

    Because you fool, I want an innovative, cutting edge health care system, and I KNOW what's going on with both Canada and Great Britain's system: they're broke and won't ever be fixed, BECAUSE of Government.

    When the government interferes with the Free Market, the Free Market cannot function properly. ALL the problems we are facing are as a DIRECT RESULT of government's outrageous interference in the market, including Health Care...Fool.

  • @captaindiesalot this is pure jingoistic nonsense. The purest form of capitalism, Wall Street, when allowed to run unfettered runs wild and literally rips itself apart. As to the condition of the H C systems in G B and Can, this condition you speak of can also be said about USA and it's H C system. The diffo is they continue to try to do the humane thing by covering all while we here in America just toss those who we can over the side and tell them good luck swimming. How Christian, huh?

  • Pluto:

    What would you know about Capitalism and Wall Street, you don't even own a suit.

    Christian? Oh, really? You think ENFORCED TAXATION to pay for more failed Health Care is Christian? Christ is a voluntary process, Charity is voluntary, and if it's forced, there's nothing humane or Christian about it. You and NIG can hang out together and smoke dope and listen to 60's music.

    Freedom means being free from assholes like you who think you can steal money.

  • @captaindiesalot you are one ignorant ill bred piece of shit. You love to make sweeping generalizations. Every one who disagrees with you gets labeled. How the fuck do you know anything about what I may or may not own? And what the hell does that have to do with a god damn thing? Are you a Calvinist by any chance? I will just say this and close this discussion, you are going to someday learn hard lessons and I just hope you do not have someone like yourself piling on the scorn.

  • Pluto:

    Collectivists are of a certain class, the lowest one. Stealing by voting for people who steal for you in the form of taxation, is still stealing.

  • @captaindiesalot so you think that the GOP voters are of the lowest class? Very good! There is hope for you after all.

  • And lastly taxation is not stealing, its needed to provide roads and schools and countless public