A bible study and interpretation of Daniel chapter 11:20+

[pumatheatre]

what bible are you quoting from?

[mcacts1]

A bunch of morons, law breakers with out respect men and women.

[Idotgotit]

Do not be afraid, for this world shall not pass, but under go a change. First there shall be Great turmoil and upheaval as if by labour pains. He who is to come shall vanquish the wicked. Then the kingdom of Heaven shall come without observation but with acceptance by all as they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, and they shall learn war no more.

[rayesoflight]

have you read esdra 2.?????..it was said to be IN the original kjv.I have PART OF a copy of the BOOK A FRIEND GAVE ME...It says woe to you babylon..".modern day Iraq" Syria ,egyp.t and one more PLACE I CANT REMENBER NOW BUT IT MEANS IRAN......it says their DESTRUCTION is at hand and that THIS IS THE BEGINNING of SORROWS

[lizazoon]

Genesis 38:8-10 NASB

Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.

[shadapple]

Why did you leave this out? Daniel 11:25 but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him...noone forecast devices against him and defeated him.

[shadapple]

It could also refer to Obama. He obtained the Kingdom by flatteries. Hollywood and all the stars promoting him. And the rest could come. He will come against Israel, and Bush didn't do that. But with Obama and what is going on now....possible.

[CRJarvis]

But Bush Cut Taxes.

[sydfan526]

great video - very interesting interpretations of Daniel 11. never caught that as pertaining to recent US Presidents before. Thanks. makes me consider that maybe the USA is the king of the North and that maybe an islamic kingdom led by iran is the King of the South. Interesting.

[davischow]

The world is stirred with the spirit of war. The prophecy of the eleventh chapter of Daniel has nearly reached its complete fulfillment. Soon the scenes of trouble spoken of in the prophecies will take place. {9T 14.2} "Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. . . . Because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

[HR1800]

the statement on the video that reads, Hussein was at peace w/neighbors. Sorry, disagree. I remember Hussein/Bin Laden in pictures on the news shaking hands. So don't tell me Hussein was thinking good thoughts abt Israel for 1. Hussein was killing his own people-torture/poisoning/murde­r/rape, he wasn't at peace w/his countrymen neither his sons!!

[Mekelsior]

Where in the Bible do you support this theory? You don't have to add anything new to the current interpretation as it follows all the way to the Second Coming, USA have a role yes, it is described as the second beast coming up out of the earth in Rev 13, it is the ally of the AntiChrist, the Papal power that persecuted the saints for 1260 years before it was destroyed by France, who if my memory does not fail me, was the king of the south in Atheism.

[megaman2160]

as i told the other guy you need to read your bible more to.

[Mekelsior]

Well, I don't see it. This is because I believe its not there, by adding a second interpretation or fulfilled of prophecy you forget whats important, you forget who the Anti-christ is and you forget what the mark of the anti-christ is, and thus run the risk of missing the whole point of what God is trying to tell us. Russia is today out of the picture completely, as is literal Israel and Islam, they are not even relevant to what is happening. They have played their role.

[MrCluster101]

King of the north is NOT false religion or papacy. Kings have kingdoms (governments) or mans ruler ship.

King of the North is either China or Russia (or both together).

How is Papacy going to ATTACK the king of

the south?

Babylon is ALL false religion, all religion that does not worship Jehovah.

Jehovah is the creator and Jesus is his ruling son. They are not part of a trinity.

I can get in to detail on this if you want the scriptural basis

[Mekelsior]

The king of the south will attack and destroy the king of the North. Identify the AntiChrist, the little horn and you will find the answer. No prophecy is of private interpretation. You know this to be true, so you cannot come and say its Russia or China, what does the Bible say, does it say Russia or China? No it does not, it mentions however the Papacy and USA.

You should look at the prophecy of Daniel 2, 7 and 8. They help explaining whats going on.

Sure we can do that.

[Mekelsior]

The Papacy can attack fairly well the king of the south, as it is for the time being in alliance with the biggest military force in the world USA. I don't know Dan 11 that well so I need to look into it for now, all I know is that it is a repetition of the previous prophecies.

[Mekelsior]

The king of the North have always been Babylon, this means today that Babylon is the Papal power, it is supported by the king of the south, Atheism, that will in the last days turn against Rome and defeat it.

Another way of looking at this is the unification of Church and State, this being Rome and USA. As it is written in 2 Pt 1:20, no prophecy is of private interpretation. Dan 11 is only the same prophecy as spoken of in 2, 7 and 8 over again. It just adds more information.

[megaman2160]

the king of the north is Russia, the king of the south is the united states

[Mekelsior]

Doesn't work like that, no prophecy is of private interpretation, you HAVE to use the Bible to explain. Identify the BEAST and you will find the answer to prophecy, Russia is NOT the beast or any kind of beast in the Bible. Never will be.

[megaman2160]

Russia is the bear. READ YOUR BIBLE

[Mekelsior]

The Winged Lion is Babylon, The Bear with 3 ribs in its mouth is Media/Persia, The leopard with 4 wings is Greece, the 4th beast is Rome. This is the only interpretation that makes sense, it is the only one that is supported by both the Bible and history. You must start at Daniel 2, chapter 7 and 8 are repetitions of the same prophecy, same is chapters 11 and 12 and Revelation 12, 13 and 14. No prophecy is of private interpretation. Where in the Bible do you find Russia ever mentioned?

[MrCluster101]

Daniel 2:44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

So you see the only hope for mankind is Gods destruction of the current governments run by Satan and installing his own government. So the final conflict between good and evil is between Jehovah and Satan.

PS: "Kings" are govt leaders NOT religions

[Mekelsior]

Who do you believe Jehovah is? Dan 7:13-14. "the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away,.." John 5:37. " And the Father ....Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

[Mekelsior]

The pope is the king of the Vatican, so he qualifies. He is also considered the leader of both freemasonry, and the worlds religions. He is the top dog in this world, how people fail to see this I cannot understand. He is the only one that fulfills the 1260 year prophecy, from 538 AD to 1798 AD, that is mentioned 7times in the Bible. A day for a year principal.

[gmenelaws]

isn't Daniel giving the prophesy about the last days. In this video, there is a Reference to Revelation 11:24. There is not such a thing. It kinda does make sense about doing what his father and hid father couldn't do.

Just trying to understand prohecy better.

[Mekelsior]

In order to understand Revelation you must understand Daniel. Daniel explains what will happen, the rise of the world kingdoms, starting from Babylon, Media/Persia, Greece/Macedonia, Rome, Holy Roman Empire/Divided Europe. Then he explains that the Anti-Christ would come after the fall of Pagan Rome, and that it would rule for 1260 years, this power can only be one power. It further persecuted the saints for this time as well. In Prophecy only the Bible can tell us what it means. :)

[theconqueror]

Daniel 11:24 He/obama shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest/highest places of the province/territory; and he/obama shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers/ i think the bible is talking about presidents; he shall scatter/separate among/between them/america the prey/suffer, and spoil/ruin/hurt, and riches/possessions: yea, and he/obama shall forecast/plan his devices/methods against the strong holds/main buildings, even for a time

[Mekelsior]

Daniel speaks about the King of the North (Papacy) and the King of the South (Atheism/USA), Daniel 11 is the same story as told in Daniel 2 over again, but with more information, its the same prophecy but more details. Do you understand? ts not Obama, as a person, yet he has an important role, USA being the beast that had two horns, looked like a lamb but spoke as a dragon (Rev 13) the first Beast is the king of the North, the Papacy.

[theconqueror]

oops i met Daniel 11:21- 28 for obama and then at daniel 11:29 the antichrist returns and you know its not jesus because this person is agaisnt the holy covenant

[theconqueror]

daniel 11:20 bush -The Bush Tax Increase and destroyed (politically) after a few days. then daniel 11:22 obama - And in his/bush's estate/place shall stand up a vile person/obama, to whom they/americans shall not give the honour/respect of the kingdom/america because of obama: but he/obama shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom/america by flatteries/telling nice things

[AmbrociousXP]

ShannCole88 your abslolutely right. Obama IS the riser of taxes. The NEXT man to step up after Obama leaves office in LESS THAN a year into his Administration, the next person will be the Antichrist.

[Mekelsior]

The Antichrist is already here and have been for almost 2000 years. Forget Jesuit doctrines of super anti christs, it was made up simply to cover for the fact that the Papacy IS the antichrist. This is the only power according to prophecy that fulfill the requirements. Do not be deceived by them, trust in the Word of God, it is not difficult to understand even a child can do it. What power persecuted the saints for 1260 years, from 538 AD to 1798 AD?

[ShannCole888]

Obama = Raiser of Taxes, Bush = King of the North...

[TanMationStudios]

king of north is either the Pagan Roman Catholic Church... or it might be the Republicans in USA....

[davischow]

"raiser of taxes " is bill Clinton, he gets impeached b/c of the Lewinsky scandal(shall fall, but not in... or ...) , then bush goes into the Arab nations.... ect when you step back and look at the presidents and see what they have done, it lays the pathway for the enforcement of the forced Sunday/ blue laws(Revelation 13)

[davischow]

* more on Clinton - His policies, on issues such as the North American Free Trade Agreement and welfare reform, have been described as "centrist." Clinton presided over the longest period of peace-time economic expansion in American history, which included a balanced budget and a reported federal surplus. Based on Congressional accounting rules, at the end of his presidency Clinton reported a surplus of $559 billion = a perfect match

[ShannCole888]

Obama "raiser of taxes ", Palin the Antichrist ? Isaiah Ch14, Zechariah Ch 5 1-11, Daniel....the little horn, ? Read them, then reply .

[donjuan1demarco]

interesting!!! but where does obama fit in the bible maybe danial chapter 8 talking about 2 wars (horns) the last war being bigger, iraq caused from bush and then the antichrist shows his face stomping on the person who started the wars ??? just a thought

[Frankliso]

You forgot to mention that 11:33-34 even mentions the 9/11 truthers :)

[genevievelapuz]

very interesting, i must study my bible more and see for myself

[davischow]

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.