Bulgarian Djura Gaida

[livonia33]

Can you give me the dimensions of your chanter because I would like to try and make one

[CharlieRutan]

is there such a thing as 27/16 in Bulgarian rhythm:

1211212123 1211212123 1211212

?

[BulgarskiGaidar]

My friend you are amazing. I too am learning the Gaida.

[simonaris]

Hi Cory. Nice playing and nice gaida. Out of curiosity - how long is the chanter and what width is the bore?

[Jigov]

awe originalnata djura gaida nqma ruchilo. v smisal, 4e ima no samo v nqkoi raioni, po skoro e izkluchenie. Originalno nqma,

The original Djura doesnt have ''Ruchilo'' the long stick that keeps one tone. Only in some regions and it is more like exception to have it. I know because my father is a bagpipe player and teacher, and he is a student of Maria Stoyanova, if you know that name.

[CeltPerson]

Extremely wonderful!

(I admit curiousity, how much do you sell them for, no guarantee that I will buy, but it is something I will keep in mind)

[TheGreekJimmy]

I just ordered one of these.

[Mangaevan]

how much are these for sale? im very interested in buying one!

[Mpullee]

Бравооооооо

[lebivino]

toa ga svire tolku lo6o 4e 4ak ne mozete da razberete kakvo e...

KOPANICA 11/8 , 11/16

i molija komentirajte na rodnija si ezik

[tsarka1888]

Corey...I think I have a djura...but my one reed does not work...how do I restring it properly? thx for any advice

[golcowie]

very nice..

pieknie i tyle..

pablo

[tayron8]

hey nice playing bro

i got a djura gaida too not to long ago infact but without a cows horn:( do you need the horn in order to play the gaida normally?

thanks

[metalopig]

Thats a pretty good price! I wish i could play like you!

I am seriously thinking of it..

[metalopig]

How much do u want for an instrument like this without decorations?

[corydale]

the decorations on this set are just the basic ferrels which are required to prevent the wood from cracking and splitting. but eventualy i would like to chase $350aud for a set like this, fully reeded and played in.

[vasili33]

Hi Cory, this is Vasili in Sydney, I'm learning Macedonian gaida - do you cut your own reeds from cane? or do you have some tricks in reedmaking to make the job easier, i'm still struggling to get the highest notes to stay in tune ;) can u help - thx bro - i will post a vid of me soon so u can correct my crap playin

[corydale]

hi vasili, yes, i cut my own reeds from spanish cane. what type of gaida do you play? i have tried making the composite reeds for the little gaidas but i just cant get them right. in terms of keeping the top notes in tune you must make sure the inner diameter of your cane is right for the type of chanter...

[nicoloff18]

who do you buy your bags from in bulgaria? my father and I are trying to find bags, but we want bigger ones for the macedonian gaida

post another macedonian gaida please =)

also i took down my videos but i'll be reposting crnogorka and ovcepolsko (played better) and pajdusko

[Aslanidis2]

Nicoloff, if you're in Australia, Risto Todorovski is an old Macedonian gaida maker/player near Mt Druitt (Western Sydney) - he made my gaida and he uses Australian goatskins - no need to import from Bulgaria! vuss_1 at h*o*t*m*a*i*l for details

[Aslanidis2]

diameter is correct because Risto made the reed (see comment)- tuned reed to A, upper notes flat, sharpened reed by sanding tongue and winding cotton around tongue to make lighter/shorter, now tuned between Bb and B before upper notes came in tune - still not perfect. Any ideas?

[vasili33]

Sorry Cory, youtube signed me in on an old login (Aslanidis) so I was saying the diameter is right but I have sharpened the reed as much as I can already and high notes not entirely in tune... that message was hard to decipher!

[nicoloff18]

alas, i am not in australia, i'm in toronto, canada

[Bulgarooo84]

@vasili33 do not have nothin with name macedonian all things are bulgarien or greece ..

[vasili33]

@Bulgarooo84 The gaidunica from Prilep that was popularised in R.Macedonia is different in pitch, reeds, and construction to the Bulgarian dzura or kaba gaidunica, and as musicians, we reserve the right to refer to instruments and folklore region by region, and not by nation-state. It would be confusing to call instruments from the Macedonian region "Bulgarian" or "Greek". I'm not concerned with your national-identity politics. Thanks very much!

[corydale]

hmm good question, the bag can be smaller but i think the goat skin has the best sound. i cant see there being much difference between goat and leather stiched. ill have to try it. i just find it easier and less time consuming to buy the goat bags from bulgaria.

[Ajsfiremouse]

Wow! Very cool!

[rebelt0y]

I've NEVER heard one of the intstruments before (seems similar to a bagpipe) but definitely love the song/random composition.

[corydale]

this is one of the kinds of bagpipes in bulgaria. there are over 300 kinds of bagpipes out there. the tune is a type of kopanitsa dance in 11/8 time (asymmetric time sig), which to the untrained ear could sound 'random'. each bar has 5 beats with the rhythm 22322.

[rebelt0y]

Yea I usually only play music in 4/4 or 3/4 usually. I really do like it though

[Ry4n93]

Nice instrument and skillfull playing, it looks similar to the bagpipes does it work the same way?

[FlameDesire]

Wow...that's a fine instrument and nice playing.

[STUIPEDFACE1121]

hay its fat basturd

[corydale]

this coming from someone whos only videos are screenshots of a video game? i might be a little big but at least i have better things to do than sit on my butt playing video games.... im a gardener and am very fit, so perhaps you should re-think posting such stupid comments about people you dont know eh?

[dsmoke8180]

Owned! Lol stupidface, go count your piggy bank

[Iron0Maiden]

NO i'm not interested

[kavalmanko]

rhaskos but the rythm is not the same....omg

[Rhaskos]

Zdravei, Kavalmanko!

Maybe not the same for makedonija, but it's almost the same way that thracians (bulgaria) play what they call "paydushko horo".

It can be a dance only with the name as "paydushko horo". Not exactly one kind of dance with the rythm of what normally should be "paydushko" rythm.

Well, it's question for longs texts and texts...

:)

[nicoloff18]

actually i have another question, do you make your reeds out of spanish cane?

[corydale]

yes, these reeds are spanish cane. but theres a nice patch of elder not far from here that has a date with my pruning sheers in a few weeks!

[nicoloff18]

my god where do you get this spanish cane? do you just find it and trim it? or could i order it from a store? I've been looking for that stuff, I only have a few reeds left.

[corydale]

i got my small stash from a freind who got it from spain years ago. i am going to cut some of the local stuff on the next full moon. there is a place in france you can buy it from 3w dot medir dot org i think but they have a funny ordering system.

[nicoloff18]

yea i think they just redid their website, because the link for bagpipe reeds doesnt work and when you go to the site you mentioned it gives you a link to redirect you to their new site

[russell2pi]

Out of interest how did you go making your own reeds from scratch, i.e. from plant to pipe -- any major hitches? (Your movie has inspired me to try making some pipes one day and I love the idea of making it reed and all!)

[Rhaskos]

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No Cory, I live here in Brasil, as I said to you.

Well how I know somethings about bulgaria?

More than 8 years studing and always learning things... :)

I'm planing to visit balgaria in january or february.

I can be "bulgarian" by option :)

[Rhaskos]

Zdravei!

Oh, people. Ok, ok.

Peace, we shouldn't fight here

:)

I said paydushko, true. I know one version of peter stoyanov playing paydushko in some similar way.

Kavalmanko: maybe not the same "paydushko" as you know there in Makedonija.

I can be wrong, each region has one way of playing and calling dances :)

[Rhaskos]

Zdravei, Cory!

No, I'm not (at least by "inheritance". Maybe by Option).

I live here in Brasil, as I said to you.

Well, how I know somethings about bulgarian culture and music in general?

More than 8 years studying... Always learning things.

(ps: Just go to gaida point com > music > petar stoyanov > listen to paydushko horo)

[nicoloff18]

whatever it might be i'm trying to learn it right now

[kavalmanko]

ITS NOT pajdusko... its not the same rythm...

rhaskos do yoou know how the pajdusko sounds?

this is janino, or kumanovsko oro... 7/8

[Rhaskos]

Not paydushko?

I'm sure that it's paydusko with some alterations.

Sounds like some paydushko from pirin.

Nicoloff18: Sure. As I said, each region has its own way of playing.

He plays in a way that reminds pirin's way of playing.

Well, it doesn't matter, ahn?

:)

[corydale]

rhaskos, are you bulgarian?

[Rhaskos]

Zdravei, Cory dale!

Yeah, it's not wrong to call it a "D" gaida.

I said that because in the villages (mainly in strandja) a "D" gaida means a gaida that sounds D with all holes covered and a G gaida sounds G with all holes covered.

But for kaba they call "D" kaba gaida the gaida that the drone is in D, for gajda it's the same.

But for djura, not. If you'll buy one djura from bulgaria, you should ask for a "G" gaida :)

[nicoloff18]

it definitely is not a pajduska, the way you played it is typical of eastern Macedonia and western Bulgarian, there are always musical similarities when coming close to borders

[Rhaskos]

Kavalmanko:

Humm... why not be sincere?

Paydushko is very popular among bulgarians, macedonians, greeks and even among some srbians.

So it's 100% bulgarian, 100% greek, 100% macedonian, 100% srbijan, etc...

The fact is that each region has its own way of playing the melody.

Cory played like the bulgarians from pirin, thrace and dobroudja do on the gaida.

:)

[corydale]

i believe this piece is in 11/8 which to my knowledge isnt pajduska..... but im not very good with the names of dances etc.

[Rhaskos]

Beautiful gaida, corydale!

It reminds me thracian gaidas (not from strandja, but from thracian valley). Because of the sound and the horn as a stock.

Congratulations!

:)

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[corydale]

i use horn for the chanter stock because i just cant get the chanters to play properly in a wooden one. even a wooden one i copied from an original stock. they all play brilliantly in the horn stock but when i put them into a wooden one the top hand goes un stable and the flea hole doesnt work properly. and i can not work out why....

[Rhaskos]

Good playing!Some well done paydushko horo!Well,may I "correct" you in something?This gaida is in the key o G,Djura gaida is different when you think about "key" in djura gaida,we should think that a Gaida in D sounds D with all holes covered (chanter) and the drone is normally tuned in G (or A, each region tune in one way).A gaida in G sounds G with all holes covered and the drone is tuned in D.

[corydale]

here in australia we call gaidas by the tonic note  (note that the drone tunes to)which in this case is D. but you are correct in saying its bottom note is G. however if i tried to play a conventional instrument in G with this one it would not work as the gaida is actualy playing D. thus we call the gaidas by their tonic note for ease of performing with other instruments.

[nicoloff18]

i've been looking for horn, do you buy yours from a slaughter house or what, also what's that song called, i recognize it

[corydale]

i work in an abattoir as a gardener, so horn is easy for me to get

[nicoloff18]

nice, does this horn ever go up for sale?

[kavalmanko]

this gaida is bulgarian, but the music is 100% macedonian... nice job cory