is this bad or good?? its said fuel saver it means low fuel consumption right? and correct me if i am wrong, i know the fuel saver is install in air intake.. right?? your explanation in decreasing the number of air and fuel cc is correct. but i don't know if you are pointing this is bad or good for vehicle..
@sc2dave oww, you are smart enough to get the point that it will lean out the fuel air mixture.. but not smart enough to see that it will save on fuel...
@jopinoypower It should work IF you are running a little rich, but if you're already lean,you'll end up using more gas because you don't make any power and you'll probably start getting misfires because it might be too lean to ignite
@jopinoypower wrong again!! not all cars are made to run rich.They all run at 14.7.1 air/fuel ratio,which is a compromise in emissions and economy.They run rich when in open loop or "limp home" mode.
It should work IF you are running a little rich, but if you're already lean,you'll end up using more gas because you don't make any power and you'll probably start getting misfires because it might be too lean to ignite
@sc2dave@sc2dave I agree with you this is stupid. By lowering the fuel-air mixture you might get a lean burnt, but that's not saving fuel. But have the creator ever thought about the excess oxygen in there? Excess oxygen in the system will facilitate the creation of NOx & SOx...very dangerous substance to release into the atmosphere. They create acid rain & poisonous to plants, animals & fish. Most modern cars are fitted with O2 sensors, which controls perfect combustion. Lean but safe exhaust.
sorry but I beg to disagree, but fuel injection is to close to the intake port that some of the fuel have no time to completly vaporize. And it explains why they put a catalytic converter in the exhoust. ty to reaserch function of catalytic converter in exhaust. my emmission testing is way low compare to EFI.
The cat converter is primarily there to convert sulphur dioxide so the exhaust is safer and don't stink so bad. I understand what you mean, but be aware that all engines are different.
Air/fuel ratios are usually best at 13-14 to 1 at sea level. Make sure you're not running too lean and you'll be fine. Fuel inject systems use manifold air pressure/temperature and exhaust gas oxygen sensors including the computer map throughout the rev/power ranges for optimal air/fuel ratios. Good luck.. :)
try to do more reaserch and you will find that the cat converter is mainly for unburnt fuel comming out from the engine that the system fails to vaporize. and the car computer or sensor does not see this.
sounds like a vacum leak . whats the diference between his little pipe providing 20cc on the in take . two say a busted carb gasket at the butmabey i missed some thing contiplating rewatching .............. no if iam wrong ... i ant wachen agen
I think he made the explanation too complex by using cc's etc. It's basically a tuned air leak into the manifold to reduce fuel consumption through the carby on throttle off/overrun. Fuel injection systems take care of this automatically. I can't say how much you'd save but it wouldn't be a huge amount unless you always engine brake from high revs..
Your air bleed idea is good tho, I use it, but I use vacuum relief valves, so when it needs more air it gets it through those, check TOM OGLE on the internet, he got it figured out for sure, as well as we. Looking forward to workin with ya . :)
IT DOES WORKK! AND GREAT TOO!! I HAE USED IT I USED IT TODAY AND EVERY DAY, IT WORKS, like a bong, the butterfly will control the amount of fuel no fuel added to carb is needed, only vapors!!
Where are you located? I can stop in and help you out with some important details on the system, and work with someone thats on the right track like you are, Lemme know brother thanks. 500 MPG COMING SOON!!
I live in the unied states, but am moving soon. maybe phillipines. That country sure could use all the energy it can it, AND WE CAN GET IT, TO SHARE, WE ARE DOING IT IT CAN AND WILL BE DONE BY ALL WHO CARE FOR LIFE!
aND TO MAKE ENERGY THAT IS TO MAKE LIFE, IT WILL BE DONE BY NO ORDER OF BOOK BUT BY THE HEARTS OF UNCOMMON GEMS.
its very low cost to live here in philippines compare to other countires, thats why most of filipinos want to work in other country just to sa save money and they spend their money here in philippins.
Hello, I have build a system that runs my car with NO CAARBORATOR!! ONLY BUTTERFLY VALVE!!! RUNS GREAT!! VIDEOS SHORTLY!! I GOT IT ON MY MOWER AND ALL THAT IT GREAT, YOUR ON YOUR WAY TO 200MPG!! AND A HUNDRED MORE HORSE POWER ON A CIVIC ENGINE!!
Take a look at the "Eagle Research/Hyco Cold Fuel Vaporizer w/"Carburetor Enhancement" videos.
That system uses vacuum pressure (inline valve controlled) on the Float Bowl Vent, which causes the pressure to drop in the float bowl making it harder for gas to flow through the jets, effectively "leaning" the jets "on-demand" by the vacuum pressure of the intake manifold/pcv vacuum line.
point taken..gives you best control over how much gas gets in(better than replacing the jets everytime you need to adjust!). as long as the engine doesn't get to the point of fuel starvation then it's ok.
pre hows your vapourizer? i once tried experimenting on feeding the vapor directly to the throat of the carb with an empty gas bowl an it gave me a short crank. does your system work this way?
brother, when feeding vapized gas you have to adjust proper gas to air ratio (reduce gas supply from carb). its not a smooth run without proper ratio. in my case i have to adjust off idle jetting when vaporizer is on line. do it bro, u have my support.
the purpose being the greater the air bleed the lower the air intake in the carb and the lower the gas that is being sucked in from the gas bowl. more like jetting the carb for a leaner mixture.
yes you are correct, but the differnce is jetting is fixed unlike airbleed you can adjust and play with it anytime you want. you you can adjust the timming on when to open or you can adjust how mush air to bleed.
well its working already. fuel saving approach has several ways. leaning fuel to tolerable level - airbleed, good air aintake and air vortex - vortex valve, eliminating wasted liqid fuel- vaporizer, faster burn rate - HHO cell, more horsepower/cooler run/stop predetonation - water injection. u need to read more.
Yes xjet, you should read more. everything he is doing works, trust me.
No, I dont believe in HHO cells, because high enough efficiency can not be achieved(especially water4gas;)), BUT water injection would be a better choice. And lean burn does not cause overheating UNTIL you overload the motor. When you change your mindset to get better gas milage, you drive different and that makes these unexplainables achievable.
I'm sorry you don't think there is an oil conspiacy. Open your mind.
The air bleed is just a hole that closes or open. When it's open, it's just having a hole on your intake manifold (airbleed). When the air bleed is off its just like normal engines setup all the air is coming in trough the carburetor 100cc.
If the air bleed is on, there is a hole in the intake manifold so some air is passing thru the airbleed hole, air from carburetor is lesser. 100cc is the engine displacement. It's the area inside the cylinder when the piston is fully down so whatever you do it's always 100cc air intake per stroke
is this bad or good?? its said fuel saver it means low fuel consumption right? and correct me if i am wrong, i know the fuel saver is install in air intake.. right?? your explanation in decreasing the number of air and fuel cc is correct. but i don't know if you are pointing this is bad or good for vehicle..
Shinigamikaras 6 months ago
Boy,this is stupid.All this is ,is a vacuum leak! It will just lean out your air/fuel mixture.
sc2dave 1 year ago
@sc2dave oww, you are smart enough to get the point that it will lean out the fuel air mixture.. but not smart enough to see that it will save on fuel...
jopinoypower 1 year ago
@jopinoypower It should work IF you are running a little rich, but if you're already lean,you'll end up using more gas because you don't make any power and you'll probably start getting misfires because it might be too lean to ignite
sc2dave 1 year ago
@sc2dave I agree that theres a limit... in order to go to the limit you have to have an adjustment like this..
jopinoypower 1 year ago
@jopinoypower IF! you are running rich ONLY.
sc2dave 1 year ago
@sc2dave yes you are right.. and rich is the normal manufacturing setting of all cars to lower the temp. they use and waste fuel to cool the engine.
jopinoypower 10 months ago
@jopinoypower wrong again!! not all cars are made to run rich.They all run at 14.7.1 air/fuel ratio,which is a compromise in emissions and economy.They run rich when in open loop or "limp home" mode.
sc2dave 10 months ago
@sc2dave okay u thnk 14.7.1 is enough for u okay hahahaha..
jopinoypower 10 months ago
@jopinoypower WHEN OR WHERE DID I SAY"14.7.1 IS ENOUGH FOR ME"?
sc2dave 10 months ago
@sc2dave u belive waht u belive and I will what i want and what i have experinced. okay? heheheh..
jopinoypower 10 months ago
@jopinoypower They also use e.g.r. to cool the engine. EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION.
sc2dave 10 months ago
It should work IF you are running a little rich, but if you're already lean,you'll end up using more gas because you don't make any power and you'll probably start getting misfires because it might be too lean to ignite
sc2dave 1 year ago
@sc2dave I agree that theres a limit... in order to go to the limit you have to have an adjustment like this..
jopinoypower 1 year ago
@sc2dave @sc2dave I agree with you this is stupid. By lowering the fuel-air mixture you might get a lean burnt, but that's not saving fuel. But have the creator ever thought about the excess oxygen in there? Excess oxygen in the system will facilitate the creation of NOx & SOx...very dangerous substance to release into the atmosphere. They create acid rain & poisonous to plants, animals & fish. Most modern cars are fitted with O2 sensors, which controls perfect combustion. Lean but safe exhaust.
kopial 1 year ago
[big long sigh..] That was just soooo painful to watch. Good idea for carbies, but fuel injection covers all that..
MrOllyK 2 years ago
sorry but I beg to disagree, but fuel injection is to close to the intake port that some of the fuel have no time to completly vaporize. And it explains why they put a catalytic converter in the exhoust. ty to reaserch function of catalytic converter in exhaust. my emmission testing is way low compare to EFI.
jopinoypower 2 years ago
The cat converter is primarily there to convert sulphur dioxide so the exhaust is safer and don't stink so bad. I understand what you mean, but be aware that all engines are different.
Air/fuel ratios are usually best at 13-14 to 1 at sea level. Make sure you're not running too lean and you'll be fine. Fuel inject systems use manifold air pressure/temperature and exhaust gas oxygen sensors including the computer map throughout the rev/power ranges for optimal air/fuel ratios. Good luck.. :)
MrOllyK 2 years ago
try to do more reaserch and you will find that the cat converter is mainly for unburnt fuel comming out from the engine that the system fails to vaporize. and the car computer or sensor does not see this.
jopinoypower 2 years ago
sounds like a vacum leak . whats the diference between his little pipe providing 20cc on the in take . two say a busted carb gasket at the butmabey i missed some thing contiplating rewatching .............. no if iam wrong ... i ant wachen agen
d12r34e56w 2 years ago
I think he made the explanation too complex by using cc's etc. It's basically a tuned air leak into the manifold to reduce fuel consumption through the carby on throttle off/overrun. Fuel injection systems take care of this automatically. I can't say how much you'd save but it wouldn't be a huge amount unless you always engine brake from high revs..
MrOllyK 2 years ago
Your air bleed idea is good tho, I use it, but I use vacuum relief valves, so when it needs more air it gets it through those, check TOM OGLE on the internet, he got it figured out for sure, as well as we. Looking forward to workin with ya . :)
MINIBNRR 3 years ago
IT DOES WORKK! AND GREAT TOO!! I HAE USED IT I USED IT TODAY AND EVERY DAY, IT WORKS, like a bong, the butterfly will control the amount of fuel no fuel added to carb is needed, only vapors!!
MINIBNRR 3 years ago
Nice one Brother, keep it up, I belive 200MPG or more is possible...
jopinoypower 3 years ago
Where are you located? I can stop in and help you out with some important details on the system, and work with someone thats on the right track like you are, Lemme know brother thanks. 500 MPG COMING SOON!!
MINIBNRR 3 years ago
im here in Philippines, its nice to have people with same interest to werk together.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
IS it expensive to live in the phillipines?
I live in the unied states, but am moving soon. maybe phillipines. That country sure could use all the energy it can it, AND WE CAN GET IT, TO SHARE, WE ARE DOING IT IT CAN AND WILL BE DONE BY ALL WHO CARE FOR LIFE!
aND TO MAKE ENERGY THAT IS TO MAKE LIFE, IT WILL BE DONE BY NO ORDER OF BOOK BUT BY THE HEARTS OF UNCOMMON GEMS.
MINIBNRR 3 years ago
its very low cost to live here in philippines compare to other countires, thats why most of filipinos want to work in other country just to sa save money and they spend their money here in philippins.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
Hello, I have build a system that runs my car with NO CAARBORATOR!! ONLY BUTTERFLY VALVE!!! RUNS GREAT!! VIDEOS SHORTLY!! I GOT IT ON MY MOWER AND ALL THAT IT GREAT, YOUR ON YOUR WAY TO 200MPG!! AND A HUNDRED MORE HORSE POWER ON A CIVIC ENGINE!!
MINIBNRR 3 years ago
Take a look at the "Eagle Research/Hyco Cold Fuel Vaporizer w/"Carburetor Enhancement" videos.
That system uses vacuum pressure (inline valve controlled) on the Float Bowl Vent, which causes the pressure to drop in the float bowl making it harder for gas to flow through the jets, effectively "leaning" the jets "on-demand" by the vacuum pressure of the intake manifold/pcv vacuum line.
SavageOne420 3 years ago
point taken..gives you best control over how much gas gets in(better than replacing the jets everytime you need to adjust!). as long as the engine doesn't get to the point of fuel starvation then it's ok.
pre hows your vapourizer? i once tried experimenting on feeding the vapor directly to the throat of the carb with an empty gas bowl an it gave me a short crank. does your system work this way?
janmik3 3 years ago
brother, when feeding vapized gas you have to adjust proper gas to air ratio (reduce gas supply from carb). its not a smooth run without proper ratio. in my case i have to adjust off idle jetting when vaporizer is on line. do it bro, u have my support.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
the purpose being the greater the air bleed the lower the air intake in the carb and the lower the gas that is being sucked in from the gas bowl. more like jetting the carb for a leaner mixture.
janmik3 3 years ago
yes you are correct, but the differnce is jetting is fixed unlike airbleed you can adjust and play with it anytime you want. you you can adjust the timming on when to open or you can adjust how mush air to bleed.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
Your system will not work.
All you are doing is making the engine run lean (if it runs at all).
You might as well just re-jet the carburetor to pass less fuel.
But of course, running the engine lean will cause damage due to overheating.
You need to read up on such things as stoichiometric ratios.
xjet 3 years ago
well its working already. fuel saving approach has several ways. leaning fuel to tolerable level - airbleed, good air aintake and air vortex - vortex valve, eliminating wasted liqid fuel- vaporizer, faster burn rate - HHO cell, more horsepower/cooler run/stop predetonation - water injection. u need to read more.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
Don't forget some powerful magnets on the fuel-line to "energize" the fuel molecules :-)
xjet 3 years ago
Yes xjet, you should read more. everything he is doing works, trust me.
No, I dont believe in HHO cells, because high enough efficiency can not be achieved(especially water4gas;)), BUT water injection would be a better choice. And lean burn does not cause overheating UNTIL you overload the motor. When you change your mindset to get better gas milage, you drive different and that makes these unexplainables achievable.
I'm sorry you don't think there is an oil conspiacy. Open your mind.
Fusion8r 3 years ago
2 doubts:
But, the air bleed is after the carburator, not before.?
The air bleed gets air out, or air in?
oscarteos 3 years ago
The airbleed is between the combustion chamber/cylinder and carburetor. the air gets inn because there is a vacuum in that area.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
The air bleed sucks air on it's own, or it connects to the air intake to gather the air?
Why if it is getting 20cc air in, this 20cc is substracted instead of added, in your example the 100cc turns to 80cc?
I really thank you for explaining all of these devices, all of these incredible solutions, that the mass media blocks from view.
oscarteos 3 years ago
The air bleed is just a hole that closes or open. When it's open, it's just having a hole on your intake manifold (airbleed). When the air bleed is off its just like normal engines setup all the air is coming in trough the carburetor 100cc.
jopinoypower 3 years ago
If the air bleed is on, there is a hole in the intake manifold so some air is passing thru the airbleed hole, air from carburetor is lesser. 100cc is the engine displacement. It's the area inside the cylinder when the piston is fully down so whatever you do it's always 100cc air intake per stroke
jopinoypower 3 years ago