Ahmadiyya Lies regarding Dr. khalid Zaheer and Khatam e Nabuwat

[psalm964]

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[ezazozo]

You, as all your types, have nothing. You have started in lies, you'll finish in lies. As your islamic knowledge is very limited, I can send you the name of the 13 mujjadid. But as you have proved to the world that you have treated the Holy Prophet saw as a LIAR -naouzobillah, there is no point to discuss any further with you unless you name your mujjadid. Allah has sent Mirza sahib as Mujjadid and Mehdi and promised Messiah. Now if you dare, prove Allah and Holy Prophet wrong.U r finish .

[xiaahmad]

@ezazozo

Really 13 Mujjadids? u know even Mirza Ghulam said that he will give the list of mujadid when other will provide the list of 12500000 prophets :)

so going by Mirza Ghulam's own statements this list that ur jammat give is nothing but guesses got it?

[TheSarfaraaz]

"xaahmad. You have proved how cunning you and your mullahs are. Except lies and deceit you cant prove nothing. If You accept 1st 13 mujjadid , bring the 14th one. And the hadith is self explanatory. Mosques have been built all over the world. So Prophets who are going to be followers of Hazrat Mohammad saw also need to come. This is a blessing from Allah. Ask your mullahs to confirm. C Chapter 4 verse 70. Ask ZAheerrr he will explain. Ask him also about his views on the death of Jesus.

[xiaahmad]

@TheSarfaraaz

please read Mirza Ghulam's own statements he himself didnt know the name of Mujadids so get ur facts right. Read Haqiqat ul Wahi page 201

so dont get tricked by ur jammat tricks and lies

about the verse 4:70 read the verse please now where verse talks about becoming prophet or not becoming prophet and read why the verse was reveled when companion(RA) asked Prophet that he wont be able to see Prophet (PUBH) in Jannah :)

[saldoczaidi]

@TheSarfaraaz Your country was the first to declare you nonMuslim in 1930. So stop being haughty & come down. You are not fit to be called Ahmadi after the name of my propphet (saws). You are Mirzai after the name of that Charlatan. Had he gone to Haiderabad, a Muslim State, his head would be on the silver platter to be presented to his Masters. You are nothing but a mosquito buzzing. 220 m ha bloody ha, you are not even 3 m.

Come to our Masjids & get to know Islam. Read Quran in Arabic.

[ezazozo]

@xiaahmad and others:If you dont any Mujjadid of the 14th century how can you all declare that you are muslims. Because if you dont follw thesayings of the holy Prophet then you are treating him a LIAR naouzobillah. As Hazrat Mohammad saw is the best of man and seal of the prophets then you and your mullah are wrong. How can you all continue to call yourself true muslims when you have rejected the mujjadid of the 14th century, hence you have no right to discuss on Islam. Bring your MUJJADID 1st!

[xiaahmad]

@ezazozo

You know according to your own Mirza Ghulam and Mirza nasir all Mujjadids dont announce that they are mujadid.

also Mirza ghulam himself acknowledge that all names of Mujadid are not know so does that make mirza Ghulam fake?

Read Haqiq tul wahi in that he talks about that subject

so plz learn and then talk

[ezazozo]

There are more proof to prove that Zaheer is a liar. We can send many but at least you should pray to be helped by God. I am asking one QUESTION TO ZAHEER AND OTHERS( YOU MAY CONSIDER IT A CHALLENGE TO YOU: Hazrat Mohammad saw in a hadith mentionned that at the beginning of each century there is going to be a MUJJADID/REFORMER to revive Islam. The 1st 13 have come and you have accepted them. WHERE IS THE MUJJADID OF THE 14th century. Give his name and his books how he revived Islam.

[ezazozo]

@xiaahmad ; now explain this hadith: "Laisa baini wa bainahou nabiyyoune" i.e " There is no prophet between me and him( Issa as )". The hadith is so simple to understand. Hazrat mohammad saw the prophet and there will be no prophet between him and Issa as the prophet. The question of last does not arise. ZAHEER is a liar!

[ezazozo]

@xiaahmad- Explain this hadth Ojectively: "Ana akhirounnabi wa masjidi akhiroul masadjid" i.e I am the last of the prophet and my mosque is the last of the mosques. Now tell have we not built millions of mosques after Hazrat Mohammad saw demise. The meaning of the hadith is simple: I am the last law bearing prophet with a new religion. No new religion can be established after islam. similarly the last mosque built by the prophet and in his life will be the last. Knowledge means understanding!

[xiaahmad]

@ezazozo

yes last mosque of Prophet

coz there is similar Hadith which is like this

"I am the last of the prophet and my mosque is the last of the mosque of Prophets"

So this infact goes against ur Jammat and Mirza Ghulam rather than what Muslim says

so please learn and dont get tricked by Mirza Masroor and co.

[ezazozo]

Cont: The words khatim and khatm and khatam are almost synonymous(lane, Mufradat, Fath & Zurqani) So the expression Khatam al-Nabiyyin would mean, the seal of the prophets. Secondarily it means the last of the Prophet. Hazrat Mohammad saw did say in a hadith that he was khatman nabiyyin before Hazrat Adam as. If we use your meaning of the verse it would mean that the Holy prophet saw was the last before Adam as. That is he was the last before the first. Have some sense Zaheer!

[xiaahmad]

@ezazozo

yes that was the status given to him he was the last prophet even at time of Adam(AS)

whats the issue with that?

[ezazozo]

Dr Zaheer, though being a Dr yet you are misguiding the muslim world with your lies as usual. You need to be afraid of God the Almighty. Your Translation of the verse 40 of chapter 33 is totally wrong. I challenge you on that. THere is no sense in your translation. Khatam is derived from khatama which means he sealed, stamped, impressed or or imprinted the thing.This is the primary meaning of the word. The word also signifies embellishment or ornament, the best and most perfect.

[xiaahmad]

@ezazozo

According to ur argument even Mirza was Liar

coz he translated the verse in urdu as:

"nabiyon ka Khatam Karney wala"

lolz

[ezazozo]

Dr Zaheer, though being a Dr yet you are misguiding the muslim world with your lies as usual. You need to be afraid of God the Almighty. Your Translation of the verse 40 of chapter 33 is totally wrong. I challenge you on that. THere is no sense in your translation. Khatam is derived from khatama which mens he sealed, stamped, impressed or or imprinted the thing.This is the primary meaning of the word. The word also signifies embellishment or ornament, the best and most perfect.

[faisalmasoodsunny]

page # 1 dr khalid i m not Ahmadee. this is very simple if you can charge Ahmadiyya have translated the soorah ahzab aya 40 wrong, i can charge you same way ' mr. k.z. you have ALSO translated wrong 33/40 " infect this is not your translation this is someone's translation you are quoting this is a very bad TO PROMOTING someone's translation without studying the original ARABIC text 33/40. you are master of distorting the original quranic text/ayas.

[faisalmasoodsunny]

page # 2 YOU must apply the arabic language rules to translate the quran, which you are not applying while translating 33/40, the results comes out changing MADEE into HALL PROPER-NOUN int NOUN. one arabic word from 33/40 "KHATIM" you explained in your bhashin try to translate khatim as "certified" as you mentioned a "ring" this a seal which certified's the documents/statements, not hart sealer. so many more thing i can say but you are not helping your self. u need more hard work.

[faisalmasoodsunny]

page # 3 also hart word is not mentioned in arabic text so the translation of three words 33/40 " .... wa khatim al-nabbeean.."pay attention 3 words it will clear you when you will be THE translator. making dwa is not important, most important is paying attention while translation the quran. all other quotes are irrelevant not concerns about Khatam e Nabuwat. i just understand all of you are "NA AHLAY ARBE ZUBBAN" so many more thing i can say but you are not helping your self. work hard.

[xiaahmad]

@faisalmasoodsunny

Can you explain ur stance what ur trying to show and explaing?

thing is Ahmadies quote Dr Zaheer as if he believe that more Prophets can come, when in actuall he does not believe that.

so this video is exposing that lie by ahmadies

[samcomposer]

In arabic Khatim doesnt mean last. hes lying. Khatim means Ring. check it on google language.

Type the word,'خاتم ' on google language it doesnt say Last. it says Ring.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

Really google talk? is that the best u can come up with? :) do u even know that RING use to be used as SEAL thats why for ring same word is used.

Plus Read some authentic stuff Lanes Lexicon (its not by a muslim) according to that its mean LAST

and Khatim translation is done by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (qadiani Khalifah) and in WARSH recitation word KHATIM is used (which means last) instead of Khatam (SEAL)

[samcomposer]

@xiaahmad

yeah ur right ring means seal i agree with u 100%. but that doesnt mean Last again. like Hazrat Ali has been called Khatum-ul- Aoliya it doesnt mean no Aoliya came after him. dude cmon be practical u think god almighty is dead and even in next 10000 trillion years he wont be able to make contacts with his creature by sending prophets. thats not wot quran said. go n read it b4 listening to mullah the worst creature under the sky as described by holy prophet pbuh.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

As I said I gave the statement of MIRZA MAHMUD @nd Khalifah of ahmadies

there are two words: Khatam (seal) and Khatim (Last)

so in Hafs Qirat Khatam is used which means Seal

In Warsh Qirat Khatim is used which means Last even according to Mirza Mahmud.

so that shows that SEAL is also used in sense of LAST

Mirza Ghulam called himself Khatam ul Aulad that no child was born to his parents after him :)

and going by ur logic QURAN should not even be the final book

[samcomposer]

@xiaahmad

if this had to be very important subject then god should have mentioned this matter very clearly not once but many many times in quran. show me any reference from quran that says No prophet can come after prophet muhammad to remove any doubts. if quran says this then i wont believe on it.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

ALLAH has mentioned if very clearly that Prophet Muhammad is Khatam/Khatim un Nabiyeen its very clear and muslims from the past from the time of Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) also was very clear about it.

its just mirza ghulam, rashid khalifah and few other claimants who creates issue on this

Quran clearly says Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) is Khatim un nabiyeen and Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) said La Nabi abadi "No Prophet after him" :) cant gets more clear than that

[samcomposer]

@xiaahmad

Do you believe on the next coming of jesus and Imam mehdi?if you do then your going agaisnt ur own logic.

Mullahs of all sects around the world declared themselves to be into 72 sects in 1974 parliament and called ahmadis non-muslim. 72 sects against 1 means , 72 will be on fire and they will resemble like jews, according to prophet Muhammad. and it is true look how these mullahs give fatwas to each other they swear at each other in the mosque. Ahmadees dont do these things. :-)

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

Again ur trying to divert the topic ur jammat is really keeping u in dark

I told u before Dr Khalid Zaheer, Shaltut, Ghamdi, Sir Syed Ahmad, Iqbal etc believe ESA(AS) to be dead YET they are not AHMADIES and yet they believe in Finality of Prophethood.

so that concept does not change any thing. can u name the 72 sect in 1974 parliament? u wont be coz they were not there :)

so thats why I asked do ur own research instead of blind following person like Masroor :D



[ezazozo]

@xiaahmad Quran says the seal of the prophet not the last. C my reply above. Moreover the hadith you are mentioning I'give the full version: " You are for me as Haroun was for Moossa. However there is no prophet after me". The meaning is simple: Hazrat Mohammad saw was simply making it clear to Hazrat Ali ra that there was no prophet after him as it was the case for Moossa, because the Holy prphet was leaving Hzrat Ali behind in Medina.So simple.

[samcomposer]

Is he the one who says there is no punishment for Blasphemy in islam? y dont u agree him on that issue u rehan's little slave? should i say he is scared of ugly mullahs, and doesnt want to be killed by Freaky mullahs like u Xiaahmad ?Offcourse he is a very reasonable person ive seen in mullahs so far but again, hes scared n thinks like ghamidi he will be labeled ahmadi if he says prophets can come after prophet muhammad.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

Sam stick to the topic if u can.

Dr Khalid Zaheer also believe ESA(AS) being dead but yet he is not AHMADI

So I posted this video just to expose ur Jammat lies about Dr Khalid Zaheer

so please dont get tricked

[AadamInsaan]

The Speaker is very clear on his stance , and view regarding Mr.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani .

-just how can the qadiyanii ahmadiis distort the words of Dr.Khalid Zaheer

And please qadiyanii ahmadiis see it for yourselves and listen.......

and Dr.Khalid Zaheer has AL-QURAN in front of him while speaking about the issue .

Need no further comments.

Brother Zia, Jazak ALLAHu khairan for this upload ,

the qadiyanii ahmadiis cant refute this neither !!!!

[samcomposer]

@AadamInsaan

The speaker is also very clear about the punishment for blasphemy that doesnt exist in islam. how can mullahs of 72 sects like u distort words of Dr.Khalid zaheer ? before you bark , i want to clear that i aint ahmadi yet but im impressed with the teachings of gr8 man mirza ghulam ahmad. the way he explained quran hats off to him. he was truly a messenger.'How regretful for the servants. There did not come to them any messenger except that they used to ridicule him'.36:30 quran.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

Even other ppl like Rashid Khalifah, Bahaullah, Joseph Smith etc were ridiculed as well that does not make them truthful.

so please instead of emotional dialogs come up with proofs if u can.

and as I explain I posted this video to expose the Lies of Ahmadies regarding Dr Khalid Zaheer's belief go to his official website where he replied to the lies that ahmadies spread in his name

[samcomposer]

@xiaahmad

i suggest you watch this..

watch?v=Fq-Tmr50PEY 1:33 onwards

Now hes changing his statement coz hes too scared of mullahs like u n maybe hes got some mullah security guard and thinks he cud be shot dead like salman taseer. Dude explain me wot he said on the link i jst gave u.

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

Lolz thats what I am trying to expose

and u saying he is changing his beliefs that means u dont know Dr Khalid Zaheer he got many beliefs which goes against main stream muslim belief but he dont back down from those

and listen to the video that u linked carefully no WHERE he SAID MORE PROPHETS can come but in this video he clearly said that NO PROPHET CAN COME

and plz refer to Lanes Lexicon kind of work instead of google translator :D

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

also visit his official website and see his answers from start of 2008 which is long time before the time that video u posted :)

so next time before assuming plz do some research.

so ahmadies have been exposed big time that they misquote Dr Khalid Zaheer and try to lie about his original beliefs

the way they did with Ghamdi, Dr Israr etc

so think plz

[xiaahmad]

@samcomposer

go to his official website and read the question number 787 the answer is from 2007 and see what he believe back then

there he answer the same verse that ahmadi trying to show in the half video that they have posted

so ahmadies have been exposed once again that they lie, trick and cheat to hide the truth

same they did with Ghamdi, Dr Israr etc

[xiaahmad]

This video expose the lies of ahmadies when they try to show the video of Dr. Khalid Zaheer as if he believes that more prophets can come after prophet Muhammad (PUBH)