Patre Reginal Foster (experto de Latino in Vatican)

[PetrusLucretius]

Silentium et patientia magnae uirti humanorum sunt sic ueritas et amor uitae potestates sunt. Petrus Lucretius ego sum et discipulus linguae latinae sum.

My Latin is quite bad yet , but I must thank men like Father Reginald Foster for inspiring me to learn classical languages =)

[Arianovich]

La historia de medio mundo viene del latin,seria inconcebible donde esa lengua se pierda siendo que esta nos une en algun modo u otro con el contexto de la historia,no solo en la época del imperio romano sino del contexto mismo de la historia en Europa y America,latina o no latina como Alemania,Inglaterra,Escocia,EE­UU y Turquia como de los que si que son el resto,por cierto ese especial es aleman como se llama?

[Mathewmatic]

INSERITO SCIDULAM QUAESO UT FACIUNDAM COGNOSCAS RATIONEM... heu cachinnavi

[Hallinilla9]

Father Maverick!

[Gnickk]

It is my fate is life to be tormented by Anglophones' ridiculous Rs.

[uosuxor]

Versio emmendatior:

1:30

Tota historia ecclesiae occidentalis est Latina, et haec est maxima difficultas. Si quis amitteret, iam amisimus vere, si quis amittit hanc coniunctionem cum tota historia ecclesiae, aliquid amittitur. Et si quis non potest aperire libros--Sancti Thomae, Sancti Augustini, vel ecclesiae vel conciliorum--et intellegere latine, excluditur! Non? Excluditur, arcetur, amittitur. Et haec est difficultas mea. Et quia tota adhuc...tota historia nostra contexta est lingua latina

[idaspe]

@uosuxor Gratias tibi ago, amice! :o)

[uosuxor]

Here is a more accurate transcript:

0:33

Romani non habebant conceptus quos habemus nos hodie. Ergo debemus aliquo modo sudare... sudare et laborare ut redamus conceptus. Haec est difficultas. Et si legimus acta diurna, est alius, est alia... alius sermo, alius habitus mentis. Non ita Romani loquebantur, sicut hodie. Haec est difficultas. Ergo debemus ponderare quod mihi placet, facere, ponderare, quid dicimus hodie, et quid dicebant Romani, et quid dicerent... Romani si hodie loquerentur.

[Lucius133]

Ecclesiastice loquitur, et natiua locutio Americana facile subauditur, sed clarissimum sermonem magnasque sententias magnopere laudo.

[C3P0meetsData]

these random switches from a high-germanic language to a pure romance language can't possibly be good for my brain...

[idaspe]

0:33

Romani no habebam conceptus quos habemus nos hodie.

Ergo debemus aliquomodo "sudare", elaborare, ob regamus conceptus.

Ecce dificultas!

Si leggimus actae diurnae est alius, est alia... alius sermus, alius habitus mentis, non ite romani loquebantur... sicut hodie. Ecce dificultas!

Ergo debemos ponderare -quod mihi placet, eh? facere...- ponderare qui dicimus hodie, et qui dicebant romani, et qui dicerent -dicerent- qui dicerent romani si hodie loquerentur.

[idaspe]

1:30 Tota historia ecclesiae occidentalis est latina!

Et ecce maxima difficultas, si quis amittere, etiam amissimus fere, si qui amitet hanc coniuntionem con tota historiae ecclesiae, aliquid ammititur!

Si quis non potes aperire libros Sancti Tomae, vel... vel etiam Sancti Agustinii, ecclesiae conciliorum, et intelegere latinae..., excluditor!, no?,

Excluditor..., (¿argetur?), ammititur!

Ecce difficultas mea!

Ad hoc, tota historia nostra contexta est lingua latina!

[DeathHoldGrip]

@idaspe

Well done. Thank you for the transcript. I'm decent in latin (working to become better) and the transcript helps me better understand the latin through the reading (haven't been taught much colloquial latin).

[idaspe]

@DeathHoldGrip You're welcome :o)

[idaspe]

Beate sis, Pater Foster, quoniam viros sicut te gloriam linguae latinae recreant.

[Salladsdressing]

You should really see his interview in the movie Religiolous with Bill Maher! Best one ever! =)

[MGNTM]

really bad pronunciation!

[Martinus512]

Die ganze Geschichte der westliche Kirche ist... ist Latein, und das ist das grösste Problem. wenn jemand die Beziehung mit der Gechichte der Kirche verliert, verliert er was.: wenn jemand die Bücher von Sankt Thomas, Sankt Augustinus , der Kirche nicht öffnen kann, oder das Latein nicht versteht, ist ausgeschlossen? Nein? Er ist ausgeschlossen, man hält von ihm Dystanze. Er verirrt sich. Das is meine Schwierigkeit, denn bisher die ganze Geschichte Europas hat das Latein verbunden.

[Martinus512]

Er sagt, dass die Römer keine Konzepte hatten , die wir heute haben. Also wir schwitzen und arbeiten brauchen, dass wir 'Konzept' machen können. Hier ist die Schwierigkeit. Und wenn wir die tägliche. Nachrichten lesen, ist es andere Sprache, anderes Tenor des Geistes. Die sprechen nicht so, wie heute. Das ist schwierig, also müssen wir grübeln, wie mir gefällt... Was reden sie heutzutage? Was redeten sie einst? Was würden sie sagen, wenn sie reden würdet?

[internawt]

Horribilis pronuntiatio!!!

[mrlanguageguy]

@internawt but he could still dominate you in latin

[Martinus512]

Optimus pronutitatius!

[hesn]

perder a historia da igreja catolica? talvez perderemos mais um casa onde a inquisiçao queimou um excelente cientista ou uma pessoa inteligente qualquer, indulgencias e outras fuleragens! deus existe e jesus foi uma boa pessoa(é o que parece), mas a igreja catolica é o meu pau! SEJAMOS DEISTAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bochensk]

Seja mais educado! Certamente o sr. não sabe nada sobre a Igreja e Sua História. As pessoas inteligentes da Igreja o sr. não conhece, não é. que conveniente!

[alaenoctis]

@bochensk A Igreja é um poço de ignorância. Antes queimava mulheres na fogueira e agora acoberta pedófilos no vaticano. Isso sem contar a sua postura retrógranda em relação ao aborto e os anticoncepcionais.

[bochensk]

@alaenoctis, Como poço de ignorância? Joseph Ratzinger é uma das pessoas mais cultas ainda vivas! Essa é a opinião, puramente intelectual, de quem conhece sua formação, suas posições filosóficas e teológicas. A civilização ocidental deve muito à Igreja, desde as universidades, nas quais hoje nos formamos, até os sistemas de direito que nos regem. A maior parte do patrimônio cultural que temos sobreviveu graças aos cristãos.

[bochensk]

@alaenoctis, com relação às acusações de pedofilia (que diz respeito a menos de 0,5% do clero católico!) pesquise para saber o quão rígida tem sido a postura da Igreja nos últimos dez anos com relação aos miseráveis que cometeram tais obcenidades! E "retrógrada" e auto-destrutiva é a posição abortista que ataca a vida!

[aknotz]

@alaenoctis One big problem would be solved in the Catholic Church if they allowed priests to marry. I beg to differ that this would not create a problem with the priest or his congregation. Take a look at the Coptic Christian Church from Egypt. Their priests can marry. Their Church was founded by the Apostle Mark. Catholicism was from the Apostle Peter.

[bochensk]

@aknotz, What do you mean? That celibacy has anything to do with pedophilia? Not really! In some rites the marriage of priests is permitted, as in Eastern and now converts from Anglicanism. The solution to this evil is a much more rigorous selection for candidates for the priesthood.

The problem of child abuse also exists among married Protestant pastors and rabbis, as well as between parents, teachers, coaches. It takes a much broader discussion to solve this problem.

[NonSapor]

@bochensk

Truth. Rabbis do this too. You only hear about it from the edge groups however...

I think marriage for priests wouldn't be too bad though...

[mrlanguageguy]

@bochensk trabalha en la vaticana. tem que saber algo da igreja, não é? (pardón mi portspanhol lol, não falo muito portugues)

[bochensk]

Não entendi o comentário. Quem trabalha no Vaticano? Padre Reginald? Eu? ;)

É legal ver alguém interessado em outros idiomas e tentando escrever em português

(It's nice to see someone interested in other languages and trying to write in Portuguese. Here in Brazil who don't know spanish very well speaks "portunhol", lol). By the way, you study Esperanto, isn't? Do you know Interlingua? Interlingua: Io ama interlingua. Il es un lingua troppo facile e plures personas comprehende sin studio previe.

[mrlanguageguy]

@bochensk haha si Padre Reginald. Solo sé unas diferencias entre español y portugués y entonces mi "portunhol" no es muy fuerte. y sí, acabo de recomenzar a estudiar Esperanto. No he ESTUDIADO interlingua pero la conozco y entiendo. ¿a tí te gusta interlingua más como esperanto? ¿qué son tus pensadas?

[robtul12]

Could someone please translate this into English or add English subtitles? I would very much like to hear what Father Foster has to say. Thank you.

[matthewadamkeil]

And this is the greatest problem: if someone loses (and now we have almost lost it) if someone loses this connection with the whole history of the Church, something [important] is lost. And if someone is not able to open the books of Saint Thomas, or also Saint Augustine, or of the Church, or of the Councils, and to understand Latin, he is shut out! He is kept at a distance. He is lost, and this is my dilemma, since, still, our whole history has been bound together with the Latin language.

[matthewadamkeil]

And if we read the daily Roman official notices, [they contain] a different type of speech, a different tenor of mind, the Romans speaking differently thus than we do today. This is the problem. Therefore, we have to think about it, which I enjoy doing, (that is) to consider what are we saying today? and what did the Romans used to say? and what would the Romans be saying if they were speaking now.

The whole history of the Western Church is Latin.

[matthewadamkeil]

He says, the Romans did not have the concepts which we have today. Therefore we have to sweat and labor to render, in some other way, [these] concepts. This is the difficulty.

[rowalino]

Mais um belo vídeo. Seu post é um bálsamo na internet, Bochensk. Parabéns e Paz em Cristo!

[bochensk]

Muito obrigado!

[ChameleonDave]

Fácundia ardorque ejus laudanda sunt, sed vóx latína hujus sacerdótis véré pessima est. Audítor statim animadvertit eum americánum esse. Vócálés omnés angloamericánæ sunt. Eí opus est véræ vócí latínæ antíquæ studére.

[AndreasFilius]

angloamericanis difficultates pronuntiationis cum "erres" sunt.

[aerobique]

schade, dass bei den scheinbar interessanten stellen keine deutsche uebersetzung dabei ist.

reginald foster rockt, glaube ich

[kayezbick]

TranscriptionIV: Tota historia ecclesiae occidentalis est Latina, et hic est maxima difficulta, si quis amittit-et iam iam amisimus fere,-si quis amittit hanc conjunctionem cum tota historia ecclessiae, aliquid amittitur; et si quis non potest aperire libros Sancti Thomae vel etiam Sancti Augustini, vel ecclessiae vel conciliorum, & intellegere Latine excluditur, no? excluditur, arcetur, nescio, amittitur. Hic est difficultas mea. Quia tota-adhuc-tota historia nostra contexta est lingua Latina.

[kayezbick]

Transcription III: Text of inscription:

Quo Aptius Atque Commodius

In Civitate Vaticana

Commeatus Rationibus Prospiceret

Paulus VI Pontifex Maximus

Hunc Helicopterorum Portum

Aperiendum Instruendumque Curavit

A.D. MCMLXXVI - Pont. XIII

[kayezbick]

Transcription II: Romani non habebant conceptus quos habemus nos hodie. Ergo debemus aliquo modo sudare. (Schwitzen)... Sudare et laborare ut reddamus conceptus. Hic est difficultas. Et si legimus acta diurna est alius sermo, alius habitus mentis. Non ita Romani loquebantur sicut hodie. Hic est difficultas, ergo debemus ponderare, quod mihi placet... facere, ponderare quid dicimus hodie, et quid dicebant Romani, et quid diceret, dicerent--[German]--quid dicerent Romani si hodie loquerentur.

[grema74]

Pronuntiatio eius autem pessima est.

[wurlitzer76]

Pessima? Haudquaquam. His Italianate pronunciation is very easy to understand. If he were to speak Latin with a FRENCH accent he would be incomprehensible.

[hogenmogen2244]

Pessima??!! This is medieval/church pronunciation. Latin has been spoken this way for centuries, and in many ways it is more authentic than the reconstructed classical pronunciation. The guy has been studying Latin for decades and isn't likely to have pronunciation problems.

[tromba8]

pronuntiatio classica melior est...quidquid sit littera R eius anglica est...hoc est pessima pronuntiatio

[trumpetingbandgeek]

I agree that italianate pronunciation is perfectly acceptable as it sprung out from the church and has been prevalent especially during the middle ages. However, even by that standard, his pronunciation is deplorable. Pay attention to the vowels, they're nearly all diphthongs instead of pure vowels, and they're the wrong pure vowels. I'm not saying people have to speak Latin perfectly with whatever system they choose, but if you're supposed to be the "Master of Latin", you would expect more.

[Loquatorix]

recte dicis, neuque accentus est correctus... utatur quolibet modo, qualibet pronuntiaione, sed leges illius pronuntiationis bene noscat et omnes modo consequatur.

[abeeee1492]

holy crud. thats freaking ridiculous.

NICE.

[nathansward]

This is awesome. If only I could slow it down to half the speed!

[tamerlanecd]

optime! Doskonałe opanowanie języka łacińskiego (oraz niemieckiego)! Tylko pozazdrościć! vale!

[teddythefrency]

Quina proximitat dab autas lengas romanicas , en Europa, latina qu'es la mair dera lengas, latina matrix linguae in Europa.

[magnafaustina]

He is the greatest! Magnus!

[ilooy]

Esque Reginal non sape que existe Interlingua le latino sin frontieras? Forsan ille poterea tosto apprender lo. Nonne?

[philoglot]

Anque le latino non ha frontieras hodie (e le latino ha essite "un lingua sin frontieras" per multe seculos). Un lingua non exclude le altere(s).