same here, im a new rookie,. i drove KW T800. 10 gear... seem like you flow the gear... nicely done.... RPM and Speed and engine sound is the key... Im still try to get there soon...
Well my dads 386 with a cat c15 and fuller 13 is pretty touchy, it may take a while to see what the kitty wants, I hear they are really sensitive on rpms
Nicely done. No gears grinded. Im a new rookie trucker, and im still having an issue grinding gears, even with the clutch. What's the rpm range u use for shifting? Fuller 13 right?
@colonelkobiashvili It depends man, you really just have to get a feel for it. I wish I could explain it simply, but I can't. You've just gotta feel what the truck wants.
@ptrhip That's exactly where I shift gears, and its awesome, I am floating gears like a pro. My shifting has changed a lot since my last post 8 months ago.
@everysubjectman i know you can destroy those things but i work with a former Dodge mechanic who is proficient in man trans told me dont push too hard let it slide in gear and itll go thats just the way i shift it,
@bobcats330 true. but sometimes that still can hurt the syncros cause theres more force on them due to the engines still turning the tranny. But if thats what a mechanic told you then i guess its right. I'm gona stick to single clutching my syncronized trannys
Sorry man, it's not mine, and I only wind up driving it seasonally... and not even every year. It's not much to see, anyway, as it spent a million miles as a road-going tractor, before retiring to farm truck use.
can enybody help, ive only driven a semi twice and going from 1-4th gear i am fine but for some reason when i try to take it out of 4th gear into 5th i cant, are my rpm's wrong? its a 10 speed
my dad had a '93 pete 377 with a 3406 cat and a eaton fuller 18 speed with 3:36's i believe, in the rear end it would go 125 loaded at 1500 rpm just cruisin. he could be in 16th gear goin down the road and hammer on it, it would break the tires loose! i love 377's, this one that one all of em! best truck on earth
should probably clean cab up a lil before takin wild and crazy footage of your shifter boot. but hey nice drivin chief. oh and double clutching makes work outa super truckin 10-4 ha ha
Haha, I didn't really mean to take footage of the floor, the camera just fell over after I set it where I wanted, and I didn't get around to re-doing it, so this one is what you get! Thanks for watching!
very simply, maybe too simply, brake down to 1100 rpm, shift to neutral, burp fuel up 400 to 500 rpm, and it will down shift one gear. course the pros could brake to 800, burp up 800rpm, then down shift two gears. it all depends on topography, weight, speed, distance to stop etc. I have and can stop at a known stop sign with a loaded set of super b ( 144,000lbs) trains without using the service brake till the last 15 feet, using only jake brake and downshifting
even tougher men own a truck with such a low granny gear they dont have to use the clutch to start off lmao ive been in a truck like that u can just pop it in low and it takes off no clutch required didnt even jerk when he put it in gear
that stupid to make them go that slow like when iam down in texas doin 75 and they gota go like 60 gona get ran over what the point in makeing them go that slow
why the hell does everyone give swift and jb hunt such a hard time they cant help it they wann go 25 on the open road. I know the drivers cant help it the company cuts em down but fuck it gets annoying when every other truck out there is goin 55 in a 65
Sorry, Ben, but see "GMC bus" [double cluthcing a 4-speed, lilewise non scynhro, PD 4104 Greyhound style bus{1960)].
Double clucthing [not to argue with a trucker here] IS reccomended by many for non-syncrhos..in short, not as easy doesn't mean a "non-clutch" tranmission..:)
Well, you know what they say about opinions... Double-clutching is the "right" way, according to the DOT, user's manual, etc, but, if you have mechanical experience enough to know what's happening inside the tranny and the skill to float gears, you'll see that it's the better choice.
FYI - I hope the bus in the vid I watched on here didn't have a clutch brake, because the guy was pushing the pedal clear to the floor while the coach was moving - big no-no.
i have been over the road for almost 2 years and have 6 years of "farm trucking" if you go to truck school they will make you learn to shift with the clutch, in my experience and probably 99% of every other trucker it is a hell of a lot easier not to use the clutch. it just takes seat time, lots of it, because differnt speeds, weights, and steepness of hills makes shifting a little different.
You've got it. No clutch when shifting gears. Heavy-duty truck transmissions are non-sychronized (unlike a car or pickup), so, even if you use the clutch, you've got to double-clutch and match revs with the pedal out between gears, so using the clutch is completely unnecessary extra effort, unless you're not capable of floating between the gears like in this video.
the 11.1 was used for bus application. the 12.7 and 14L were bus and truck application. But they stopped making the 12.7 not too long ago. so now they use the 14L for trucks and buses today.
I was wondering why I hadn't seen a 12.7 Det in the newer trucks. The one I drive has the 14 and it's much better. Did they quit making the 12.7 when the DD15 come out?
They stopped making the 12.7 (430hp) somewhere in the 90s i believe, the 14L replaced the 12.7. As a matter of fact Detroit diesel even made a 11.1 60 series but were mainly used on buses.
Thanks, I remember my very first truck had the 12.7 in it, it was a 2000 model so it must have been one of the last ones they made. It was a good one but I like the 14L better
Depends on what you're doing, but, basically, if it's within your ability and it's not physically impossible to match revs with the selected gear, you're only wearing out the clutch linkage, throwout bearing and your left knee by clutching unnecessarily.
same here, im a new rookie,. i drove KW T800. 10 gear... seem like you flow the gear... nicely done.... RPM and Speed and engine sound is the key... Im still try to get there soon...
southeastdriver 1 year ago
@benwantland
Well my dads 386 with a cat c15 and fuller 13 is pretty touchy, it may take a while to see what the kitty wants, I hear they are really sensitive on rpms
colonelkobiashvili 1 year ago
Nicely done. No gears grinded. Im a new rookie trucker, and im still having an issue grinding gears, even with the clutch. What's the rpm range u use for shifting? Fuller 13 right?
colonelkobiashvili 1 year ago
@colonelkobiashvili It depends man, you really just have to get a feel for it. I wish I could explain it simply, but I can't. You've just gotta feel what the truck wants.
benwantland 1 year ago
@colonelkobiashvili The clutch is your enemy. You need to learn how to float them. it's much easier, and that left leg don't get sore either lol
if you wanna chat, just hit me up with a message on here, send me your aim/yahoo name and i'll tell ya all i can.
256Motorsports 10 months ago
@colonelkobiashvili i like to use the tach and when it hits 1500 rpm ill shift works every time
ptrhip 4 months ago
@ptrhip That's exactly where I shift gears, and its awesome, I am floating gears like a pro. My shifting has changed a lot since my last post 8 months ago.
colonelkobiashvili 3 months ago
Excuse me for saying this but there's something really sexy here.
auaiao9 1 year ago
i float gears on the flatbed dodge diesel at work, if you know how you float most trannies but most people are too stupid to do it right.
bobcats330 1 year ago
@bobcats330 you should only float unsyncronized trannies like this one cause youll destroy the syncronizers if you dont float a syncromesh 100% right
everysubjectman 1 year ago
@everysubjectman i know you can destroy those things but i work with a former Dodge mechanic who is proficient in man trans told me dont push too hard let it slide in gear and itll go thats just the way i shift it,
bobcats330 1 year ago
@bobcats330 true. but sometimes that still can hurt the syncros cause theres more force on them due to the engines still turning the tranny. But if thats what a mechanic told you then i guess its right. I'm gona stick to single clutching my syncronized trannys
everysubjectman 1 year ago
Eaton Gearboxes are the best!
AllianceB95 1 year ago
can you show us the outside of ur truck?
379peterbilt530 1 year ago
@379peterbilt530
Sorry man, it's not mine, and I only wind up driving it seasonally... and not even every year. It's not much to see, anyway, as it spent a million miles as a road-going tractor, before retiring to farm truck use.
benwantland 1 year ago
best truck ever... peterbilt + detroit + 13s
GOLTURBO555 1 year ago
can enybody help, ive only driven a semi twice and going from 1-4th gear i am fine but for some reason when i try to take it out of 4th gear into 5th i cant, are my rpm's wrong? its a 10 speed
maggotsretards 1 year ago
hey you driving grain truck? by the way great shifting
thefarminkid8760 1 year ago
@thefarminkid8760
Thanks, and no, it was a tender truck, i.e. straight truck hauling dry fertilizer.
benwantland 1 year ago
my dad had a '93 pete 377 with a 3406 cat and a eaton fuller 18 speed with 3:36's i believe, in the rear end it would go 125 loaded at 1500 rpm just cruisin. he could be in 16th gear goin down the road and hammer on it, it would break the tires loose! i love 377's, this one that one all of em! best truck on earth
200xboy01 1 year ago
why is the pedal making that squeaking sound?
DanW900 1 year ago
@DanW900
The bushings were probably dry from lack of use. ;)
In all seriousness, though, it just needed lubed. I never really noticed it in the short time I drove that truck, though.
benwantland 1 year ago
should probably clean cab up a lil before takin wild and crazy footage of your shifter boot. but hey nice drivin chief. oh and double clutching makes work outa super truckin 10-4 ha ha
walla545 1 year ago
@walla545
Haha, I didn't really mean to take footage of the floor, the camera just fell over after I set it where I wanted, and I didn't get around to re-doing it, so this one is what you get! Thanks for watching!
benwantland 1 year ago
i don't get it. did the cat finally get home to meet its parents? And what was the frog all about?
syncstation 1 year ago
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itsdamo1993 1 year ago
You're not serious are you?
GFire25 1 year ago
what do you have to do when you are downshifting? can you explain, thanks
tiffanyt600 2 years ago
shift out of gear into neutral, then slowly (relatively) rev the engine and slide into the lower gear
beej2001 1 year ago
very simply, maybe too simply, brake down to 1100 rpm, shift to neutral, burp fuel up 400 to 500 rpm, and it will down shift one gear. course the pros could brake to 800, burp up 800rpm, then down shift two gears. it all depends on topography, weight, speed, distance to stop etc. I have and can stop at a known stop sign with a loaded set of super b ( 144,000lbs) trains without using the service brake till the last 15 feet, using only jake brake and downshifting
bmmuir 1 year ago
thats right real men only use the clutch for starting and stoping
weatherbyboy3006 2 years ago 10
even tougher men own a truck with such a low granny gear they dont have to use the clutch to start off lmao ive been in a truck like that u can just pop it in low and it takes off no clutch required didnt even jerk when he put it in gear
DRNEGOLICIS 2 years ago
And if you miss a gear going uphill with 100,000 lbs?
teamwounder 1 year ago
@teamwounder rev the engine up to get into a lower gear.
ant2190 1 year ago
@teamwounder start rubbing on lower gears till one slips in
laramie4x4 1 year ago
no clutch action is always gud
repoman2k9 2 years ago
that stupid to make them go that slow like when iam down in texas doin 75 and they gota go like 60 gona get ran over what the point in makeing them go that slow
sandbucket0000 2 years ago
That old rig looks pretty tight. I had some a lot newer that shifted like rowing a damn boat.lol
stevesprinceofsteaks 2 years ago
do u have to clutch when splitting?
hondarider100r 2 years ago
whats the difference between a swift driver and a komoto dragon the komoto dragon can back up
CountryBoyWithAFord 2 years ago 3
exactly at what rpms do you shift up and downshift at?
jg875102 2 years ago
didn't make a complete stop at the sign
fireflanery815 2 years ago
don`t have to!!!!
weiserbud67 2 years ago
why the hell does everyone give swift and jb hunt such a hard time they cant help it they wann go 25 on the open road. I know the drivers cant help it the company cuts em down but fuck it gets annoying when every other truck out there is goin 55 in a 65
darush012 2 years ago
Best view! 5*
Truckerman1993 2 years ago
Sounds like he shifts a little early, might not have a heavy load though.
brasmussen81 2 years ago 3
also real men only start in low when they heavy or uphill start
aimhigh510 2 years ago 3
I have The 12.7 500 HP Detroit In my 377 Pete and love it. I havent ran a 14 Liter yet but ive herd there a pretty good engine.
TheFarmallGuy 3 years ago
Sorry, Ben, but see "GMC bus" [double cluthcing a 4-speed, lilewise non scynhro, PD 4104 Greyhound style bus{1960)].
Double clucthing [not to argue with a trucker here] IS reccomended by many for non-syncrhos..in short, not as easy doesn't mean a "non-clutch" tranmission..:)
SteveCarras 3 years ago
Well, you know what they say about opinions... Double-clutching is the "right" way, according to the DOT, user's manual, etc, but, if you have mechanical experience enough to know what's happening inside the tranny and the skill to float gears, you'll see that it's the better choice.
FYI - I hope the bus in the vid I watched on here didn't have a clutch brake, because the guy was pushing the pedal clear to the floor while the coach was moving - big no-no.
benwantland 3 years ago
what does floating through the gears mean?
fragmaster14 3 years ago
no clutch
benwantland 3 years ago
i'm interested in getting my class A. as a rookie, will i be able to shift without using the clutch right away? is it easy to pick up?
dannyW900 2 years ago
i have been over the road for almost 2 years and have 6 years of "farm trucking" if you go to truck school they will make you learn to shift with the clutch, in my experience and probably 99% of every other trucker it is a hell of a lot easier not to use the clutch. it just takes seat time, lots of it, because differnt speeds, weights, and steepness of hills makes shifting a little different.
trfarms 2 years ago 4
yea, its eassier than using the clutch
all you have to do is let up on the gas when you want to upshift, and refit a couple times while shifting to down shift.....its easy
IFwetrust1 2 years ago
nice video man. love it
NJFordPops08005 3 years ago
FAKE! He has a third leg to operate the clutch!
:P
produKtNZ 3 years ago
That's what she said...
benwantland 3 years ago
@benwantland funny shit man
syncstation 1 year ago
floating the gears is the way to go double clutching is for pusses
jodemit 3 years ago
So you don`t have to clutch when changing gears? Or is it just good timing and sync with the rpm wich makes the shift not slip?
BessieMorrison 3 years ago
You've got it. No clutch when shifting gears. Heavy-duty truck transmissions are non-sychronized (unlike a car or pickup), so, even if you use the clutch, you've got to double-clutch and match revs with the pedal out between gears, so using the clutch is completely unnecessary extra effort, unless you're not capable of floating between the gears like in this video.
benwantland 3 years ago
I doubt you make that again in socks....
darlamcm2 3 years ago
Was the engine a 11.1 or 12.7l you know?
BigDan855 3 years ago
I'm almost sure it was a 12.7L. Did they make the smaller block in a 400/425?
-bw
benwantland 3 years ago
Yea sounds like a 12.7 then, I beileve the 11.1 only can go up to 400hp max,
BigDan855 3 years ago
the 11.1 was used for bus application. the 12.7 and 14L were bus and truck application. But they stopped making the 12.7 not too long ago. so now they use the 14L for trucks and buses today.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
I was wondering why I hadn't seen a 12.7 Det in the newer trucks. The one I drive has the 14 and it's much better. Did they quit making the 12.7 when the DD15 come out?
biggare1980 3 years ago
They stopped making the 12.7 (430hp) somewhere in the 90s i believe, the 14L replaced the 12.7. As a matter of fact Detroit diesel even made a 11.1 60 series but were mainly used on buses.
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
Thanks, I remember my very first truck had the 12.7 in it, it was a 2000 model so it must have been one of the last ones they made. It was a good one but I like the 14L better
biggare1980 3 years ago
I have a question for you. Does the 14L have louder jake brakes on them than the 12.7s do?
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
The old 12.7 series 60 stayed in production til the '03 emission regulations took effect
jackelliston 3 years ago
so you dont own this truck your driving?
Kiwiboy696969 3 years ago
Hell no, dude, I'm a 25 year old musician. I can't afford a truck.
tatortotpink123 3 years ago
ok thanks
DarrenTheKing88 3 years ago
should u double clutch, or does it really make a difference?
DarrenTheKing88 3 years ago
Depends on what you're doing, but, basically, if it's within your ability and it's not physically impossible to match revs with the selected gear, you're only wearing out the clutch linkage, throwout bearing and your left knee by clutching unnecessarily.
benwantland 3 years ago
thats called floating aint it
mowhawk100 3 years ago
need to do some house cleaning . That floor is a mess son! lol
104bigTruck 3 years ago
haha. Good call, although, this was taken on my first day in this company truck, and that isn't my garbage.
benwantland 3 years ago
Very good video.
solaris362 3 years ago
brings me memories when I used to drive. *sigh*
psi418 3 years ago