It is foolish to argue with folks who know nothing about the origin of flight. Doubting the achievements and primacy of the Wrights is a demonstration of ignorance. The Wrights flew before 1906 several times without a catapult or ridge lift. Their flights were publicly observed and published. Do you suppose a Tomcat isn't flying just because it is shot off the deck of a carrier? Get a life.
WOW! Thanks, I really enjoyed this video. I would like to know more about the man who is flying the replica. Could you tell me if the one flying the replica is the same one who designed this one?
Even if you ignore the achievements of 1903 and 1904 the wrights were making repeated flights at Huffman Prairie of over 30 minutes by a busy trolleybus route. Many witnessed on a regular basis. Santos Dumont was a great pioneer but in 1905 was still waffling about in airships. Learn to count....
marcusacf2-Then why didn't anyone in Europe succeed with it(catapult) prior to 1903?
The whole purpose for the use of the catapult is above the mental capacity of many in the Dumont mindset. They don't understand it's benefits from the perspective of an early 20th century aviator. It was very practical and as the Wright's proved, it achieved the required result, reduced take off length, the precursor for the aircraft carrier systems we use today. It also prevented ground looping.
@marcusacf2 Ironically, had the Wright brothers not been so successful, Octave Chanute would of had no reason to have informed the ACduF membership and they, with prompting by the overt French nationalist, Ernst Archdeacon, co-founder-president of the ACduF, didn't really start attempting to fly until 1906. Dumont was the perfect patsy, he was already famous for his dirigibles and with is single power hop on 12Nov,'06 Archdeacon got what he wanted. Dumont's next flight was on 13Feb,'09.
@marcusacf2 The machine Dumont called the "14bis" was actually designed and built by the ACduF members, Gabriel Voisin and Robert Esnault-Peltrie. Unfortunately, the machine was based on the failed concept of "Inherit Stability" and it lacked a proper propeller, it had NO lift producing airfoils, and it lacked a 3-axis control system. Dumont's first successful "actual" flight occured on 13Feb,1909, but he had illegally installed the Wright's patented control system and landed in French court.
Santos-Dumont was a great aviator and a great aviation pioneer - but he was not the first to build and fly a truly practical airplane. That honor is rightfully bestowed on Wilbur and Orville, and that first practical airplane was the 1905 Flyer. You can see the original at Carillon park In Dayton Ohio, USA.
Note that the flying shots with the KC10 in the background are of the Wright Model B, not the 1905 Flyer. The Model B first flew in 1910, and I know of no record that Model B flight tests were conducted at Huffman Prairie. But, I agree with you that the shots are cool...
Excellent video! I have the honor of living in North Carolina ("First in Flight") and having lived in Ohio ("The Birthplace of Flight"). Nice aircraft!
I love Dr. Crouch, seen him numerous times on aviation specials on tv and visited the Air & Space Museum many times. Also the late C H Gibss-Smith, the best writer on early flight. Kudos to Mark Dusenberg for his Wright 1905 Flyer replica.
When will you have a confirmed date? Is there a website that I can checkout to get the latest information regarding this? I would like to get out there this year. Thanks.
absolutely fantastic. to think that that field is still there with wright pat right next to it! Fantastic. Thanks!
homebuiltindoorplane 1 year ago
It is foolish to argue with folks who know nothing about the origin of flight. Doubting the achievements and primacy of the Wrights is a demonstration of ignorance. The Wrights flew before 1906 several times without a catapult or ridge lift. Their flights were publicly observed and published. Do you suppose a Tomcat isn't flying just because it is shot off the deck of a carrier? Get a life.
ryoung1902 3 years ago
WOW! Thanks, I really enjoyed this video. I would like to know more about the man who is flying the replica. Could you tell me if the one flying the replica is the same one who designed this one?
Thanks again for this video! Great job!
louisiana1003 3 years ago
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A real failure ... The inventor of the airplane was Alberto Santos Dumont!
marcusacf2 4 years ago
These Brazilians!!!
Even if you ignore the achievements of 1903 and 1904 the wrights were making repeated flights at Huffman Prairie of over 30 minutes by a busy trolleybus route. Many witnessed on a regular basis. Santos Dumont was a great pioneer but in 1905 was still waffling about in airships. Learn to count....
jfpuk2004 4 years ago
Lift flight by catapult is easy, aora rise up by force of a motor is another! So is!
marcusacf2 4 years ago
Not worth the breath for a formale reply....
jfpuk2004 4 years ago
It will take at the bottom then!
marcusacf2 4 years ago
marcusacf2-Then why didn't anyone in Europe succeed with it(catapult) prior to 1903?
The whole purpose for the use of the catapult is above the mental capacity of many in the Dumont mindset. They don't understand it's benefits from the perspective of an early 20th century aviator. It was very practical and as the Wright's proved, it achieved the required result, reduced take off length, the precursor for the aircraft carrier systems we use today. It also prevented ground looping.
warp13 3 years ago
@marcusacf2 Ironically, had the Wright brothers not been so successful, Octave Chanute would of had no reason to have informed the ACduF membership and they, with prompting by the overt French nationalist, Ernst Archdeacon, co-founder-president of the ACduF, didn't really start attempting to fly until 1906. Dumont was the perfect patsy, he was already famous for his dirigibles and with is single power hop on 12Nov,'06 Archdeacon got what he wanted. Dumont's next flight was on 13Feb,'09.
BearFlight 1 year ago
@marcusacf2 The machine Dumont called the "14bis" was actually designed and built by the ACduF members, Gabriel Voisin and Robert Esnault-Peltrie. Unfortunately, the machine was based on the failed concept of "Inherit Stability" and it lacked a proper propeller, it had NO lift producing airfoils, and it lacked a 3-axis control system. Dumont's first successful "actual" flight occured on 13Feb,1909, but he had illegally installed the Wright's patented control system and landed in French court.
BearFlight 1 year ago
Sorry marcus, you're out-gunned here.
Santos-Dumont was a great aviator and a great aviation pioneer - but he was not the first to build and fly a truly practical airplane. That honor is rightfully bestowed on Wilbur and Orville, and that first practical airplane was the 1905 Flyer. You can see the original at Carillon park In Dayton Ohio, USA.
octave3 3 years ago
huffman praire still looks the same.... yes, not Kitty Hawk..... love the shot of the Flyer with KC-10's in background. Thank you for posting this!
irish89055 4 years ago
Irish:
Note that the flying shots with the KC10 in the background are of the Wright Model B, not the 1905 Flyer. The Model B first flew in 1910, and I know of no record that Model B flight tests were conducted at Huffman Prairie. But, I agree with you that the shots are cool...
octave3 3 years ago
Excellent video! I have the honor of living in North Carolina ("First in Flight") and having lived in Ohio ("The Birthplace of Flight"). Nice aircraft!
Sonoraman 4 years ago
I love Dr. Crouch, seen him numerous times on aviation specials on tv and visited the Air & Space Museum many times. Also the late C H Gibss-Smith, the best writer on early flight. Kudos to Mark Dusenberg for his Wright 1905 Flyer replica.
deepseadirt 4 years ago
Excellent video, looks like you had good weather. What a great looking and flying machine. Do they do this every year?
warp13 4 years ago
We hope to have the 1905 Flyer on Huffman Prairie again on October 5, 2009.
trgaffney 3 years ago
When will you have a confirmed date? Is there a website that I can checkout to get the latest information regarding this? I would like to get out there this year. Thanks.
warp13 2 years ago
That's nice.
pete5668 4 years ago