...by the rewards offered it in exchange for its soul and conscience, some time ago now, by the allure of wealth and preservation of its then moribund profession. In fact, what am I taliking about? P$ychiatry never had a soul, or a conscience.
On top of this, you also have the fact that people on medications, especially the antipsychotics, are dying on average at a very young age; that these drugs are creating an epidemic of iatrogenic illness unprecedented in the history of this most ethically challenged of professions. Sadly, until the halls and offices of psychiatric institutions are cleansed of the miasma of capitalist greed, p$ychiatry will continue to persist arrogantly through the moral inferno it was tempted down by...
@Transmintosity It is also true that people who go to the ER for catastrophic injuries or get open heart surgery die, on average, at a much younger age than people who do not go to the ER or get surgery. That's why I call it the "surgi-caust," and that's why I think we should abolish surgery. Could it be that people who take psychiatric medications die, on average, younger because of higher suicide rates and other negative life experiences associated with mental illness? See next post
@awiley52 None of this is to say that some medications have serious and potentially dangerous side effects. In any treatment (like surgery), you have to weigh risks and benefits. We should also be aware that psychiatry, like ANY practice, can be done badly, or for bad purposes, or can be corrupted by money (in specific ways vs. "grand conspiracy"). But to go from this to an extreme pseudoscientifically driven anti-psychiatry ideology is both ignorant and harmful to the people it says it helps
....a good outcome for patients was preponderantly weighted in favour of not using medication, and instead creating an environment propitious to recovery from their suffering. I could go on and on, but it will be to no avail, because p$ychiatry has long since prostituted the interests of patients like myself for its own economic and professional aggrandisement consequent to its Faustian bargain with the pharmaceutical industry when it was, rightly, dying out as a profession.
....people treated better without medications, truly mountainous even! NIMH studies over the past 50 years have shown that people generally get better in the longterm without a prescription. Maurice Rappaport conducted a study looking at whether neurolpetic, neurodegenerative drugs (which is what they are) work better for patients in the long-term than no 'treatment'. The study showed a marked superiority in favour of the non-medication. The Soteria project also showed that the possibility of...
Blondgirl says, like a typical psychiatric ideologue, that the 60% spontaneous recovery is explained by the fact that depression is anathema in some countires. Allow me to play the trump card. Cross-cultural studies aren't the only studies, and in these studies, cultural differences are meaningless, because the comparative, longitudinal studies of patients on and off medications take place in the same cultural climate. There is a vast body of evidence showing better outcomes generally for...
My parents are Born Again Christians. They believe mental illness is caused by the devil & in particular demon possession. They beat me, took away my food, whipped me, performed exorcisms on me & said, you will only be healed if you accept Jesus into your heart as your Lord & savior. Until then you have the devil in you, are lost to god & will be ill. Then they hit me again. Why are these people allowed to exist & abuse their children? I have Bipolar II, OCD, ADHD, SAD, GAD, PTSD.
When we tax the rich we are not stealing their wealth- they continue to be wealthy- and their wealth came via a system that is warped, a system that creates such wealth disparity in the first place is warped,broken,disfunctional,defective- it causes some to be incredibly wealthy like kings and others to either strive with their nose to the grindstone for a decent quality of life or if they don't have the right qualities then they must be poor and ignored - it is a defective system from the start
I like to breath fresh air and not the cigarette,moldy,cat piss,vomit,shit that comes up through the cracks in the floor from the apartment below. When the drain backs up I like to get it fixed immediately & not have to wait a week or a month w/o being to take a bath with slime gurgling up out of the drain because I cant afford a plumber-I like to have my own thoughts & hold onto my own values and not have people using threats and peer pressure to force me to do things I don't want.
I like to walk out my door & not be afraid to walk down the street, not be ogled or threatened or antagonized in any way as you are in poor, high crime, low income neighborhoods.I like to NOT, have to worry about cockroaches & vermin or the cheap poisons that is laid down in low income slums to kill some of them. I like to have good health I like to get what I need done at the Dr's or dentist office.I like to be treated fairly & respectfully by people in the environment & not labled
I like to have a good quality computer available so I can upload myself singing and so i can google all the things I'm curious about- I like to have my own transportation and not be dependent on public transportation- I get panic attacks on buses- I like to have good quality healthy, organic, fresh food- so I can have good health and vibrant energy. I like to food processors & blenders & juicers & quality appliances that make life more convenient & fun.
I like to have a comfortable place to live, I like to feel safe from anyone who would exploit,extort,peer pressure,physically or psychologically abuse me- I like to step firmly with every step and not have to worry about the other crazy person downstairs punching the ceiling- I like to be able to speak up with confidence and not have to whisper for fear to be heard- I like to practice music on a daily basis and sing out loud without some one harassing me or threatening me-
I appreciate the response, I have noticed that about the weather before- just by observation - the mood and tone of everyone in the environment changes even when a cloud momentarily passes the sun- so weather is one factor, but I think you're different than me- because If I live in a area where there is violence, bullying,exploitation, fear,dilapidation,squalor, I become very sick- and have breakdowns and constant fear and panic - it is a nightmare- (cont.)
i suppose you think doctors falsify schizophrenics symptoms to put them on drugs as well.
and what do they do while they ride out there psychosis , oh let me guess, go to to YOUR clinic and get YOUR treatment and read YOUR books and give YOU money.
I was put on anti-depressants manerix because I was stuck in a deep rut. They gave me the strength to get out, over the hill and strong and now I'm off them.
Just a small but valid point....depression in many cultures is considered shameful or taboo & people do not seek help...that is if in these undeveloped countries help is anywhere to be found there fore these people hide or deny that there is a problem, this explains your theory of a 60% spontaneous recovery in undeveloped countries
@thatblondgirl1 A lot of tripe. There could be myriad factors involved here, and you've plumped for the most unlikely, which betokens perhaps a vested interest. Who says these people have a problem? If they say they haven't got one, who are you to say they have? This is all too often used as a rationale coercive psychiatric intervention, that some people don't know they have a problem, and should be coerced into realising they have. Yet this is predicated on faith.
Mental illnesses presuppose the material existence of a "mind", traditionally a verb in the English language, as in "minding the store or minding one's business". And although psychiatry claims to be treating brain diseases of sorts, even with the use of coercions and psychiatric oppressions, it is still "mind", as a factititious entity that the profession has concerned itself with, up to this present day.
I don't agree wholesale with the likes of Whitaker and Breggin, et.al., as the position of this newly emerged "new left" critique still adheres to mental illness as a disease and, as such, of some biological aetiology or other. No test, to date, has settled the latter assertion of the MH profession. In essense the psychiatric profession, with the lesser MH profession in tow, is about altering the individual so as to alter the social, as in community based programs:Social engineering.
Psychiatric conditions aren't about taking a pill & you're all better. Your role in your own treatment is as, if not more, important than the medication prescribed. Meds are one tool. If I don't keep a strict schedule, follow sleep hygiene, exercise, do yoga, move when I feel down & meditate when I feel manic, my meds won't be able to help much. When my dr does her part & I do mine, I can function.
So, what does someone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder do while he/she is sitting around, being tortured by hearing voices or acting on dangerous delusions, and waiting for this spontaneous recovery?
the thing is millions of people are depressed so some one is making billions becuase of it, I had counselling for depression for a long time, so when i was about fourteen I didnt want it anymore, so the clinic did some "psychiatric analysis" and deemed me clinicly deepressed, and one of the reasons for that was beacause i didnt wear makeup and i didnt have a boyfriend the psychiatrist said all girls my age did that. anyway i never took the pills, i feel great, and i dont need pills to be happy.
Disease is your body cussing you out for not taking care of it. First thing you should do when things dont seem right is look at your DIET!! Diet is the most important of all. Eat only what mother(nature) has made for you.
'A loss of energy and flow.' What is this, Star Trek? Breeding likes to name drop his favorite teacher, Thomas Szasz, who criticized modern psychiatry for having no test for chemical imbalances in people with mental illness. I wonder what the objective test is for 'a loss of energy and flow?' Does ANYONE recognize this for the ridiculous gobbledy-gook it is? Just goes to show you...most people would buy their own crap if it came in a Hershey wrapper.
@awiley51 Ah, you believe in the existence of mental illness, Mr guy who likes to delude himself that he and his odious kind are mere vessels for scientifc truth pour its wisdom into. Quack. The chemical imbalance hypothesis has long since been rendered otiose by studies of the cerebrospinal fluid of unmedicated 'schizophrenics' and depressed people, showing no abnormalities. It is a panchreston, something that seeks to explain everything but explains nothing, and it belongs in the conceptual...
@Transmintosity Ah, you don't believe in the existence of mental illness. The problem, for mental illness deniers, appears to be the term "illness" or "disease." The term "disorder" is probably the most accurate, since we are talking about disorders of thinking, feeling, and behaving. So, you don't believe in the existence of schizophrenia and autism. Here's the simple question I know that you won't answer. If they aren't illnesses or disorders, what, then, are they? No biological test, so...?
@awiley51 ...like phlogiston and the galenic humors. Maybe you understand, but you seem not to criticise that meaningless concept, nor the the risible, excrement-standard concept of disease that undergirds the concept of mental disease, so I thought I would say so just in case.
'We all go through periods of being blue, melancholy, blah blah blah." Look we have all experienced 'bumps and bruises," but only a few of us have experienced COMPOUND FRACTURES. Calling a compound fracture a "boo boo" is both unhelpful and cruel. Denying mental illness at a time when accessing effective treatment is all but impossible for the majority of people who have it is a sick little hobby/money making scheme. Please join hands with Kevin Trudeau and jump in a lake.
Years of experience, writing books, being a professor, cranking out Youtube rants, none of these things make you an expert on anything. People should be asking people like Breeden to PROVE THEIR ASSERTIONS. A true expert must subject his claims to rigorous tests and support them with reliable data and logic. This is what makes science ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN! Kings, priests, internet gurus, no matter WHO YOU ARE, science calls you on your bullshit. Breeding looks like Manson and makes less sense.
@awiley51 you're right about the last thing you said, cranking out youtube rants doesn't make you an expert on anything. however years of experience and studying for a phd, and writing books doesn't 'make' you one either, but it's a sign that you are
@collapseofthedollar I'm not sure what your point is. One is an expert when their ideas and claims correspond with reliable evidence (in a particular field) and logic. Breeding's claims correspond with neither. When you make unsubstantiated claims to a wide audience in order to sell something (oh, say, books), you are a crank, a quack, a charlatan. Breeding's views (and his method for disseminating them) make him a quack.
@awiley51 Judging by your veridical definition of the word 'expert', psychiatry is devoid of expertise! Psychiatrists would be at the top of any list of quacks. They are cardinal quacks. Science and psychiatry are two antipodal fields. Once again, there is no physiognomic similarity between Breeding and Manson, so your self-congratulatory remark is a failure. Oh, and this excessive indulgence in capitalization betokens that you are a dogmatist, but not a scientist. Quack, quack, quack!
@Transmintosity What does the 'excessive indulgence' of 50 cent words 'betoken?' Style over substance? I find your posts to be PALAVEROUS, GARRULOUS, CIRCUMOCUTORY, PLEONASTIC, MAGNILOQUENT, GRANDILOQUENT, AND PERIPHRASTIC. Put away the 19th century thesaurus and start making sense. Science is about CLARITY and TRUTH, mental illness denial is based on PROPAGANDA and A DISTORTED INTERPRETATION OF THE FACTS.
Breeding and his cult followers demonstrate breathtaking ignorance (willful?probably, you gotta sell your books!) when it comes to synthesizing and interpreting scientific evidence. Any belief, no matter how stupid or harmful, can be supported if you selectively attend to only the bits and pieces that support it while ignoring the mountain of evidence against. 'Mad in America' is an especially shabby example of sham inquiry. If people can't see through Breeding's bologna, I see very little hope
@awiley51 Which is exactly what psychiatry has long, illustrious history of doing, ignoring the mountains of evidence against it. The only difference is is that the psychiatrc ideologue and eisegete's sham beliefs, recast and redefined as scientific truth, to buttress their often criminal practices, are imposed on others. Psychiatry has hee-haw to do with science, and is only a scientism, or quackery. I am not denying that Breeding is sometimes perhaps a quack, but he is quack with a conscience-
@awiley51 ...and he preaches and proselytises without recourse to force, which is antipodal to what astrologists, sorry, I mean, what psychiatrists do.
I have dilema of whether to classify wanting to kill council workers in UK because they messed me around for years as schizophrenia or as natural reaction. If I'm classed as mad I possibly get new accomodation and like more money to live on instead of attending homeless soupruns and living on poverty line. This has been helpfull in that whole internal debate.
I have heard some medical people say someone can go many years without any bipolar episodes and then all of a sudden they will become sick again worse than ever so therefore they must keep taking the drugs to stop that from happening. I think it's nonsense. It's just a way for them to get people hooked on these drugs for life.
You are so great John Breeding! Depression and Bipolar mania is in fact the procedure of processing supressed energies. The proces of transformational energies is the death of the ego and rebirth of the new person that use methodologies to process information accordingly without suppressing it and still be flowing.
@koreamy Yes but that is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, assuming temporal succession implies causal relation. Just because you believe that the mechanism of action that the drugs perform has got you better, does not discount other causal factors. Anyway, longitudinal studies of people on medications, compared to people off, shows far better chances of long term recovery for those who don't take these pernicios pills. Get it up ye, get it right up ye!
I "qualify" for bipolar meds; antidepressant, antipsychotic, and mood stabilizer cocktail. Except I don't want them as a maintenance thing, only during a crisis do I want them, and NEVER do I want an antipsychotic for any reason, period. Sick of explaining myself. I never hear the end of it, the coercion never stops. Just a simple "no" repeated enough times ought to be enough, but no. I prefer to be as sick as a dog than to be on an antipsychotic.
My takeaway is depression results from being up against an unsolvable problem, and your body shuts down because resistance is futile. Mania results from bootstrapping oneself. Bootstrapping always leads to mania for me, so I'm resolving to not do it anymore.
psychiatry seems to shy away from the unscientific idea that thought creates mood, not the other way around. they influence each other after that, and mood can come on suddenly from intense association to thought, but there is no other real way to explain it; extremity comes only from the extremity inside our natural doors of consciousness. its just as 'rootless' to imagine that the neurotransmitters appear as suddenly and inexplicably as thoughts themselves
I had been suffering from Depression since 2003, have been on zoloft on and off and currently not on any longer for more than 4 months. Been depressed for over two weeks again and dont know what to do. I do not want to go back to medication. Any suggestions.
It appears to me that many, many people are becoming aware that they are not just a body and a mind, people appear to be waking up that they are spirit also, i don't mean more religious, i mean that everything is connected.
alot of depression come on with people that do not like or want to admit to thier failiure or humilliation that the person has not accepted. With emotions there will always be reactions that people have never learn to work with. To learn to live with failiure and accept the negative would be a good step to help people out of depression. Get rejected 1000 times and fail 1000 times more you will learn how to get over depression. keep the peace and camera with you
There should be programs for a home centered life,where people get benefits 4 quality food/shelter/health-access to tools/resources 4 self cultivation-non-mandatory light work options.We should have a solid structure of advocacy in place.What I experience is people are always,judging/attributing & one can be vulnerable to mistreatment by others-Why?Some people are bullies,others-easily threatened by the different,so they overreact & deem you a threat & resort to constant put-downs/challenges.
So it is complicated and many people would have it out of expediency- either you are nuts and you should be on medicine until you are sufficiently subdued so that you can zombie your way through a job at Wal-mart, or you are just a bad attitude, lazy ,toxic person who doesn't know how to cooperate and doesn't want to lend a helping hand- But neither of those is correct- they just demonstrate peoples narrowness/ inflexibility in understanding.
When someone says to me ":you are isolated from the real world" I say "Poppycock" because I function-though to an economical extent- every time I go to the supermarket, whenever I'm driving in traffic, whenever I see relatives--that is functioning in the real world--What I can't do is over extend myself to anyone who would have expectations that go beyond my capacity to fulfill and that would lead me off the path that I consider to be true and right for me.
I get stress nightmares, fatigue, feelings of paranoia---& it is NOT an illness-it is a natural response to the problems as they relate to my unique characteristics & circumstance-people say "oh you're just so sensitive" well I guess I am--I would not be able to work or function with people on a long term schedule etc..I also have certain scruples that others don't share & I can't be around people who would peer pressure or place expectations on me to do things I don't want to do or believe in
Every time I go out the door--people sneer and shout put downs, and stare, "shave you're beard" "you're Creepy" "You're arrogant" "You You're a dork" "Get a job Loser"
I hear stuff like this all the time--I often have suicidal thoughts because I get so depressed-then I have relentless intrusive thoughts-it isn't me it is the peoples cruelty that gets me--then I'm sure I'm transmitting thoughts from other people--I believe that's a natural psychic phenomenon- that society isn't being open about
So when someone says to me me --"you don't deserve to be on disability--you are not disabled like --a wounded veteran, or an injured worker" I agree--it isn't the same, it is different--but that is the way it is set up-if a person has the difficulties that I have it is labeled depression, bi-polar, schizophrenia--then they are eligible for disability - but people don't understand and they resent a person being on ssi-- I'm telling you not a day goes by that I'm worried about losing SSI--
I hate the label "mental Illness" but I have to submit to it because there is no other validated description or understanding-I do have issues,difficulties and a type of struggle that is unique to me--that I share to different degrees with others--but it isn't illness--is it thwarting, it does it interfere. I believe that most so called sane-share many of these qualities-yet they have the right configuration of characteristics & circumstances so that they fit into the puzzle more snugly.
I agree to an extent--though I think people who are sensitive or, depressed, or have these issues can be wealthy-they definitely have many more options to utilize to treat themselves--whereas if you are working class or poor, you don't have many options-you can't afford to lose you're job, or maybe you are already on welfare--and everything is depressing at that level--there aren't many options for lower class people who have these issues and it really takes it's toll.
Last comment here-the biggest problem is economic injustice-low wages, too much much work, classism, any type of better-ism--that takes precedence over acknowledging the person's humanity---People really don't realize the toll that economic lack takes--since people have a natural tendency to withhold, and hoard and wealth and power- the flow of money and resources gets blocked up and people suffer for it- it is one the biggest problems behind everything and it is a big factor in "Mental Illness"
Why one person can succeed, or get by in society is reliant on many factors. People on the average--though I believe they have the potential for higher levels of understanding and compassion- are very judgmental & intolerant, & ignorant..unknowledgable. There is a lot of stress and antagonism, confusion and uncertainty --and it is in the ranks of the rich and those who have authority and it is within the working class and poor classes- most human beings are stumbling through the darkness.
It really is very complex and people just want to say a person is nuts and flawed without taking into account all the problems within our human existence that lend themselves to these problems to different people for different reasons--I think a lot about how I would explain why I have my difficulties to someone, and it wouldn't be easy--I practice it actually, I'd need a whiteboard and some markers and need to illustrate it because just using words makes it hard to articulate.
The way I see I see it-so called "Mental Illness" is a broad label that people who have a hard time within society in their existence for many reasons--but if the person isn't able to function within the bell curve then we need a clinical label to put on the person to excuse them because to acknowledge & validate all the reasons why a person has nervousness,depression,breakdowns, whatever-encompasses many different factors-it is easy & convenient to just say the person is flawed & defective.
Sigh. Really sad. Obvioulsly not someone who was ever hanging on by their fingernails between life and death by severe, OPGANIC, herediary depression.
@apollo33 OMG i hope you dont take this the wrong way it is meant to be helpfull ,, do you see the screen as green ? the color is blue , are you color blind have you been diagnosed or checked for this ,, the screen is definetly blue sweetie , as a friend to watch it with you and the should see blue unless it is your computer color set different from mine , good luck :)
@vlucidity He is talking about the effects used, that backround is -not- the backround they are using whilst filming. Its an effect applied as you edit the video afterwards. A green/blue make it so you can place any backround you wish beind those that are sitting infront of it. Usually its just a mere sheet that is either pure green or Blue. He is reffering to the blue effect that is used, making it look very unreal and strange for the eyes - not the fact that the screen is "actually" green.
check yourself in the mirror before going on camera. your bra strap is showing...
brw9284 1 week ago
...by the rewards offered it in exchange for its soul and conscience, some time ago now, by the allure of wealth and preservation of its then moribund profession. In fact, what am I taliking about? P$ychiatry never had a soul, or a conscience.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
On top of this, you also have the fact that people on medications, especially the antipsychotics, are dying on average at a very young age; that these drugs are creating an epidemic of iatrogenic illness unprecedented in the history of this most ethically challenged of professions. Sadly, until the halls and offices of psychiatric institutions are cleansed of the miasma of capitalist greed, p$ychiatry will continue to persist arrogantly through the moral inferno it was tempted down by...
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
@Transmintosity It is also true that people who go to the ER for catastrophic injuries or get open heart surgery die, on average, at a much younger age than people who do not go to the ER or get surgery. That's why I call it the "surgi-caust," and that's why I think we should abolish surgery. Could it be that people who take psychiatric medications die, on average, younger because of higher suicide rates and other negative life experiences associated with mental illness? See next post
awiley52 2 weeks ago
@awiley52 None of this is to say that some medications have serious and potentially dangerous side effects. In any treatment (like surgery), you have to weigh risks and benefits. We should also be aware that psychiatry, like ANY practice, can be done badly, or for bad purposes, or can be corrupted by money (in specific ways vs. "grand conspiracy"). But to go from this to an extreme pseudoscientifically driven anti-psychiatry ideology is both ignorant and harmful to the people it says it helps
awiley52 2 weeks ago
....a good outcome for patients was preponderantly weighted in favour of not using medication, and instead creating an environment propitious to recovery from their suffering. I could go on and on, but it will be to no avail, because p$ychiatry has long since prostituted the interests of patients like myself for its own economic and professional aggrandisement consequent to its Faustian bargain with the pharmaceutical industry when it was, rightly, dying out as a profession.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
....people treated better without medications, truly mountainous even! NIMH studies over the past 50 years have shown that people generally get better in the longterm without a prescription. Maurice Rappaport conducted a study looking at whether neurolpetic, neurodegenerative drugs (which is what they are) work better for patients in the long-term than no 'treatment'. The study showed a marked superiority in favour of the non-medication. The Soteria project also showed that the possibility of...
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
Blondgirl says, like a typical psychiatric ideologue, that the 60% spontaneous recovery is explained by the fact that depression is anathema in some countires. Allow me to play the trump card. Cross-cultural studies aren't the only studies, and in these studies, cultural differences are meaningless, because the comparative, longitudinal studies of patients on and off medications take place in the same cultural climate. There is a vast body of evidence showing better outcomes generally for...
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
@mentalhealth4 Quack quack quack! Psychiatry has the market cornered on quackery. It is a perversion of medicine and science.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
My parents are Born Again Christians. They believe mental illness is caused by the devil & in particular demon possession. They beat me, took away my food, whipped me, performed exorcisms on me & said, you will only be healed if you accept Jesus into your heart as your Lord & savior. Until then you have the devil in you, are lost to god & will be ill. Then they hit me again. Why are these people allowed to exist & abuse their children? I have Bipolar II, OCD, ADHD, SAD, GAD, PTSD.
HidingFromEveryone 1 month ago
When we tax the rich we are not stealing their wealth- they continue to be wealthy- and their wealth came via a system that is warped, a system that creates such wealth disparity in the first place is warped,broken,disfunctional,defective- it causes some to be incredibly wealthy like kings and others to either strive with their nose to the grindstone for a decent quality of life or if they don't have the right qualities then they must be poor and ignored - it is a defective system from the start
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
Im sorry you are in a tough situation right now- you wouldn't have to starve if there was a good social safety net- you anyone else-
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
I like to breath fresh air and not the cigarette,moldy,cat piss,vomit,shit that comes up through the cracks in the floor from the apartment below. When the drain backs up I like to get it fixed immediately & not have to wait a week or a month w/o being to take a bath with slime gurgling up out of the drain because I cant afford a plumber-I like to have my own thoughts & hold onto my own values and not have people using threats and peer pressure to force me to do things I don't want.
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
I like to walk out my door & not be afraid to walk down the street, not be ogled or threatened or antagonized in any way as you are in poor, high crime, low income neighborhoods.I like to NOT, have to worry about cockroaches & vermin or the cheap poisons that is laid down in low income slums to kill some of them. I like to have good health I like to get what I need done at the Dr's or dentist office.I like to be treated fairly & respectfully by people in the environment & not labled
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
I like to have a good quality computer available so I can upload myself singing and so i can google all the things I'm curious about- I like to have my own transportation and not be dependent on public transportation- I get panic attacks on buses- I like to have good quality healthy, organic, fresh food- so I can have good health and vibrant energy. I like to food processors & blenders & juicers & quality appliances that make life more convenient & fun.
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
I like to have a comfortable place to live, I like to feel safe from anyone who would exploit,extort,peer pressure,physically or psychologically abuse me- I like to step firmly with every step and not have to worry about the other crazy person downstairs punching the ceiling- I like to be able to speak up with confidence and not have to whisper for fear to be heard- I like to practice music on a daily basis and sing out loud without some one harassing me or threatening me-
catgumart 3 months ago
@ARJustOne
I appreciate the response, I have noticed that about the weather before- just by observation - the mood and tone of everyone in the environment changes even when a cloud momentarily passes the sun- so weather is one factor, but I think you're different than me- because If I live in a area where there is violence, bullying,exploitation, fear,dilapidation,squalor, I become very sick- and have breakdowns and constant fear and panic - it is a nightmare- (cont.)
catgumart 3 months ago
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AmazingMonkeyQueen 3 months ago
ah yes good work breeding
i suppose you think doctors falsify schizophrenics symptoms to put them on drugs as well.
and what do they do while they ride out there psychosis , oh let me guess, go to to YOUR clinic and get YOUR treatment and read YOUR books and give YOU money.
you thieving fucken hillbilly
thievinbrudda 7 months ago
@thievinbrudda Don't bother generalising the hideousness of your character to the rest of the world, you pus filled mollusc.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
this guy is just against psychiatry in general
MrXSpeaks 7 months ago
I hate head shinkers.
BlueLady2020 10 months ago
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I was put on anti-depressants manerix because I was stuck in a deep rut. They gave me the strength to get out, over the hill and strong and now I'm off them.
closetome 1 year ago
I was put on anti-depressants manerix because I was stuck in a deep rut. They gave me the strength to get out and over the hill and now I'm off them.
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closetome 1 year ago
Just a small but valid point....depression in many cultures is considered shameful or taboo & people do not seek help...that is if in these undeveloped countries help is anywhere to be found there fore these people hide or deny that there is a problem, this explains your theory of a 60% spontaneous recovery in undeveloped countries
thatblondgirl1 1 year ago 3
@thatblondgirl1 it's shameful here too, many just accept wharever the doc says and continue to destroy a potentially good life.
movadoband 1 year ago
@thatblondgirl1 A lot of tripe. There could be myriad factors involved here, and you've plumped for the most unlikely, which betokens perhaps a vested interest. Who says these people have a problem? If they say they haven't got one, who are you to say they have? This is all too often used as a rationale coercive psychiatric intervention, that some people don't know they have a problem, and should be coerced into realising they have. Yet this is predicated on faith.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
Mental illnesses presuppose the material existence of a "mind", traditionally a verb in the English language, as in "minding the store or minding one's business". And although psychiatry claims to be treating brain diseases of sorts, even with the use of coercions and psychiatric oppressions, it is still "mind", as a factititious entity that the profession has concerned itself with, up to this present day.
1thebabyalex 1 year ago
I don't agree wholesale with the likes of Whitaker and Breggin, et.al., as the position of this newly emerged "new left" critique still adheres to mental illness as a disease and, as such, of some biological aetiology or other. No test, to date, has settled the latter assertion of the MH profession. In essense the psychiatric profession, with the lesser MH profession in tow, is about altering the individual so as to alter the social, as in community based programs:Social engineering.
1thebabyalex 1 year ago
Psychiatric conditions aren't about taking a pill & you're all better. Your role in your own treatment is as, if not more, important than the medication prescribed. Meds are one tool. If I don't keep a strict schedule, follow sleep hygiene, exercise, do yoga, move when I feel down & meditate when I feel manic, my meds won't be able to help much. When my dr does her part & I do mine, I can function.
PennyAnn25 1 year ago
So, what does someone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder do while he/she is sitting around, being tortured by hearing voices or acting on dangerous delusions, and waiting for this spontaneous recovery?
PennyAnn25 1 year ago
the thing is millions of people are depressed so some one is making billions becuase of it, I had counselling for depression for a long time, so when i was about fourteen I didnt want it anymore, so the clinic did some "psychiatric analysis" and deemed me clinicly deepressed, and one of the reasons for that was beacause i didnt wear makeup and i didnt have a boyfriend the psychiatrist said all girls my age did that. anyway i never took the pills, i feel great, and i dont need pills to be happy.
tempermentalist 1 year ago
breeding is a fucking piece of shit and he likes saying thats the facts but has no evidence for anything.
i wouldnt let him treat a fucking dog let alone a human being
peace
lankeypete 1 year ago 2
@lankeypete Somebody had too much to think! How did you manage to set up the internet in a cave, troglodyte?
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
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Mmmm...romantic naturalism and moral explanations for disease. How....fascist.
awiley51 1 year ago
I REALLY like my line...Breeding looks like Manson and makes less sense. Good one, me!
awiley51 1 year ago
@awiley51 Actually, there is no physiognomic similarity. Bad one, you!
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
Disease is your body cussing you out for not taking care of it. First thing you should do when things dont seem right is look at your DIET!! Diet is the most important of all. Eat only what mother(nature) has made for you.
n3a2z3 1 year ago
@n3a2z3 Mmmm...romantic naturalism and moral explanations for disease. How...fascist.
awiley51 1 year ago
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@n3a2z3 Mmmm...romantic naturalism and moral explanations for disease. How...fascist.
awiley51 1 year ago
@n3a2z3 Mmmm...romantic naturalism and moral explanations for disease. How....fascist.
awiley51 1 year ago
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@n3a2z3 Mmmm...romantic naturalism and moral explanations for disease. How....fascist.
awiley51 1 year ago
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I believe almost all diseases including mental disorders are from MALNUTRITION!!
n3a2z3 1 year ago
'A loss of energy and flow.' What is this, Star Trek? Breeding likes to name drop his favorite teacher, Thomas Szasz, who criticized modern psychiatry for having no test for chemical imbalances in people with mental illness. I wonder what the objective test is for 'a loss of energy and flow?' Does ANYONE recognize this for the ridiculous gobbledy-gook it is? Just goes to show you...most people would buy their own crap if it came in a Hershey wrapper.
awiley51 1 year ago 2
@awiley51 Ah, you believe in the existence of mental illness, Mr guy who likes to delude himself that he and his odious kind are mere vessels for scientifc truth pour its wisdom into. Quack. The chemical imbalance hypothesis has long since been rendered otiose by studies of the cerebrospinal fluid of unmedicated 'schizophrenics' and depressed people, showing no abnormalities. It is a panchreston, something that seeks to explain everything but explains nothing, and it belongs in the conceptual...
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
@Transmintosity Ah, you don't believe in the existence of mental illness. The problem, for mental illness deniers, appears to be the term "illness" or "disease." The term "disorder" is probably the most accurate, since we are talking about disorders of thinking, feeling, and behaving. So, you don't believe in the existence of schizophrenia and autism. Here's the simple question I know that you won't answer. If they aren't illnesses or disorders, what, then, are they? No biological test, so...?
awiley52 2 weeks ago
@awiley51 ...like phlogiston and the galenic humors. Maybe you understand, but you seem not to criticise that meaningless concept, nor the the risible, excrement-standard concept of disease that undergirds the concept of mental disease, so I thought I would say so just in case.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
'We all go through periods of being blue, melancholy, blah blah blah." Look we have all experienced 'bumps and bruises," but only a few of us have experienced COMPOUND FRACTURES. Calling a compound fracture a "boo boo" is both unhelpful and cruel. Denying mental illness at a time when accessing effective treatment is all but impossible for the majority of people who have it is a sick little hobby/money making scheme. Please join hands with Kevin Trudeau and jump in a lake.
awiley51 1 year ago
Years of experience, writing books, being a professor, cranking out Youtube rants, none of these things make you an expert on anything. People should be asking people like Breeden to PROVE THEIR ASSERTIONS. A true expert must subject his claims to rigorous tests and support them with reliable data and logic. This is what makes science ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN! Kings, priests, internet gurus, no matter WHO YOU ARE, science calls you on your bullshit. Breeding looks like Manson and makes less sense.
awiley51 1 year ago
@awiley51 you're right about the last thing you said, cranking out youtube rants doesn't make you an expert on anything. however years of experience and studying for a phd, and writing books doesn't 'make' you one either, but it's a sign that you are
collapseofthedollar 1 year ago
@collapseofthedollar I'm not sure what your point is. One is an expert when their ideas and claims correspond with reliable evidence (in a particular field) and logic. Breeding's claims correspond with neither. When you make unsubstantiated claims to a wide audience in order to sell something (oh, say, books), you are a crank, a quack, a charlatan. Breeding's views (and his method for disseminating them) make him a quack.
awiley51 1 year ago
@awiley51 Judging by your veridical definition of the word 'expert', psychiatry is devoid of expertise! Psychiatrists would be at the top of any list of quacks. They are cardinal quacks. Science and psychiatry are two antipodal fields. Once again, there is no physiognomic similarity between Breeding and Manson, so your self-congratulatory remark is a failure. Oh, and this excessive indulgence in capitalization betokens that you are a dogmatist, but not a scientist. Quack, quack, quack!
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
@Transmintosity What does the 'excessive indulgence' of 50 cent words 'betoken?' Style over substance? I find your posts to be PALAVEROUS, GARRULOUS, CIRCUMOCUTORY, PLEONASTIC, MAGNILOQUENT, GRANDILOQUENT, AND PERIPHRASTIC. Put away the 19th century thesaurus and start making sense. Science is about CLARITY and TRUTH, mental illness denial is based on PROPAGANDA and A DISTORTED INTERPRETATION OF THE FACTS.
awiley52 2 weeks ago
Breeding and his cult followers demonstrate breathtaking ignorance (willful?probably, you gotta sell your books!) when it comes to synthesizing and interpreting scientific evidence. Any belief, no matter how stupid or harmful, can be supported if you selectively attend to only the bits and pieces that support it while ignoring the mountain of evidence against. 'Mad in America' is an especially shabby example of sham inquiry. If people can't see through Breeding's bologna, I see very little hope
awiley51 1 year ago
@awiley51 Which is exactly what psychiatry has long, illustrious history of doing, ignoring the mountains of evidence against it. The only difference is is that the psychiatrc ideologue and eisegete's sham beliefs, recast and redefined as scientific truth, to buttress their often criminal practices, are imposed on others. Psychiatry has hee-haw to do with science, and is only a scientism, or quackery. I am not denying that Breeding is sometimes perhaps a quack, but he is quack with a conscience-
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
@awiley51 ...and he preaches and proselytises without recourse to force, which is antipodal to what astrologists, sorry, I mean, what psychiatrists do.
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
I have dilema of whether to classify wanting to kill council workers in UK because they messed me around for years as schizophrenia or as natural reaction. If I'm classed as mad I possibly get new accomodation and like more money to live on instead of attending homeless soupruns and living on poverty line. This has been helpfull in that whole internal debate.
SOUPRUN01 1 year ago
Thanks Anna seems much more relaxed in this video
zombiehellmonkey 1 year ago
I want to get off of medication so bad. I have gotten off before, only to encounter a bipolar psychotic episode and to be placed back on the meds.
DaughterofJerusalem 1 year ago
@DaughterofJerusalem ~ k ~ U should tell Me "things" How do U feel ~
TJae1 1 year ago
@davebegotka
Right on, brother! :-)))
47462vladi 1 year ago
I have heard some medical people say someone can go many years without any bipolar episodes and then all of a sudden they will become sick again worse than ever so therefore they must keep taking the drugs to stop that from happening. I think it's nonsense. It's just a way for them to get people hooked on these drugs for life.
0XXD 1 year ago 3
You are so great John Breeding! Depression and Bipolar mania is in fact the procedure of processing supressed energies. The proces of transformational energies is the death of the ego and rebirth of the new person that use methodologies to process information accordingly without suppressing it and still be flowing.
TheWayshowerTube 1 year ago 2
you are not only boring but your also depressing to watch..
musicrocker2324 1 year ago
@koreamy Yeah Yeah you probably work for a pharmaceutical company.
FreemanGordon2009 1 year ago 3
Believe in recovery, transformation ONE LOVE :)
createrainbowz 1 year ago
@createrainbowz
You can say we are all connected to be the One. For one thing, we ain't there yet bro.
For another, what does it have to do with the video, seeing as how "We ain't there yet"
Starpass 1 year ago
Medication has saved my life. You are invalidating and irresponsible.
koreamy 1 year ago
@koreamy it has thus far...but later??
runtubefantasy 1 year ago
@koreamy Yes but that is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, assuming temporal succession implies causal relation. Just because you believe that the mechanism of action that the drugs perform has got you better, does not discount other causal factors. Anyway, longitudinal studies of people on medications, compared to people off, shows far better chances of long term recovery for those who don't take these pernicios pills. Get it up ye, get it right up ye!
Transmintosity 2 weeks ago
Thanks Dr. Breeding for coming out with these facts!
UnoRaza 1 year ago
what kind of drugs where you referring to when you said they do damage over time
that one can not recover from and what exactly is a nervous breakdown and what is
the time frame for recovery?
conet134 1 year ago
psychology is a part of everything and everything is a part of psychology
lenny121 1 year ago
I "qualify" for bipolar meds; antidepressant, antipsychotic, and mood stabilizer cocktail. Except I don't want them as a maintenance thing, only during a crisis do I want them, and NEVER do I want an antipsychotic for any reason, period. Sick of explaining myself. I never hear the end of it, the coercion never stops. Just a simple "no" repeated enough times ought to be enough, but no. I prefer to be as sick as a dog than to be on an antipsychotic.
barkulator 1 year ago
My takeaway is depression results from being up against an unsolvable problem, and your body shuts down because resistance is futile. Mania results from bootstrapping oneself. Bootstrapping always leads to mania for me, so I'm resolving to not do it anymore.
barkulator 1 year ago
Great interview!
Try and find this programme recently broadcast by BBC TV, Louis Theroux: America's Medicated Kids
It is very good and revealing!!
zezt 1 year ago
psychiatry seems to shy away from the unscientific idea that thought creates mood, not the other way around. they influence each other after that, and mood can come on suddenly from intense association to thought, but there is no other real way to explain it; extremity comes only from the extremity inside our natural doors of consciousness. its just as 'rootless' to imagine that the neurotransmitters appear as suddenly and inexplicably as thoughts themselves
tyrannicoystercult 1 year ago
I had been suffering from Depression since 2003, have been on zoloft on and off and currently not on any longer for more than 4 months. Been depressed for over two weeks again and dont know what to do. I do not want to go back to medication. Any suggestions.
butterflie2484 1 year ago
It appears to me that many, many people are becoming aware that they are not just a body and a mind, people appear to be waking up that they are spirit also, i don't mean more religious, i mean that everything is connected.
Are you seeing this also?
Namaste
rstamand 1 year ago
@rstamand No I'm not seeing that. I don't believe in spirits.
Namaste
diomedes39 1 year ago
like the t-shirt, doctor
mycatisamoron 1 year ago
0:49 naughty doctor
COD5252 1 year ago
alot of depression come on with people that do not like or want to admit to thier failiure or humilliation that the person has not accepted. With emotions there will always be reactions that people have never learn to work with. To learn to live with failiure and accept the negative would be a good step to help people out of depression. Get rejected 1000 times and fail 1000 times more you will learn how to get over depression. keep the peace and camera with you
MrPentraxmul 1 year ago
I got off all of my pills, and I don't ever get mad at all or feel the need to hit somthing
MultiIPwnage 1 year ago
There should be programs for a home centered life,where people get benefits 4 quality food/shelter/health-access to tools/resources 4 self cultivation-non-mandatory light work options.We should have a solid structure of advocacy in place.What I experience is people are always,judging/attributing & one can be vulnerable to mistreatment by others-Why?Some people are bullies,others-easily threatened by the different,so they overreact & deem you a threat & resort to constant put-downs/challenges.
catgumart 1 year ago
So it is complicated and many people would have it out of expediency- either you are nuts and you should be on medicine until you are sufficiently subdued so that you can zombie your way through a job at Wal-mart, or you are just a bad attitude, lazy ,toxic person who doesn't know how to cooperate and doesn't want to lend a helping hand- But neither of those is correct- they just demonstrate peoples narrowness/ inflexibility in understanding.
catgumart 1 year ago
When someone says to me ":you are isolated from the real world" I say "Poppycock" because I function-though to an economical extent- every time I go to the supermarket, whenever I'm driving in traffic, whenever I see relatives--that is functioning in the real world--What I can't do is over extend myself to anyone who would have expectations that go beyond my capacity to fulfill and that would lead me off the path that I consider to be true and right for me.
catgumart 1 year ago
@catgumart I just read a few of your points, totally on your side friend. ever heard the saying 'its not me, its the rest of them' ?
pistachionut24 3 months ago
I get stress nightmares, fatigue, feelings of paranoia---& it is NOT an illness-it is a natural response to the problems as they relate to my unique characteristics & circumstance-people say "oh you're just so sensitive" well I guess I am--I would not be able to work or function with people on a long term schedule etc..I also have certain scruples that others don't share & I can't be around people who would peer pressure or place expectations on me to do things I don't want to do or believe in
catgumart 1 year ago
Every time I go out the door--people sneer and shout put downs, and stare, "shave you're beard" "you're Creepy" "You're arrogant" "You You're a dork" "Get a job Loser"
I hear stuff like this all the time--I often have suicidal thoughts because I get so depressed-then I have relentless intrusive thoughts-it isn't me it is the peoples cruelty that gets me--then I'm sure I'm transmitting thoughts from other people--I believe that's a natural psychic phenomenon- that society isn't being open about
catgumart 1 year ago
So when someone says to me me --"you don't deserve to be on disability--you are not disabled like --a wounded veteran, or an injured worker" I agree--it isn't the same, it is different--but that is the way it is set up-if a person has the difficulties that I have it is labeled depression, bi-polar, schizophrenia--then they are eligible for disability - but people don't understand and they resent a person being on ssi-- I'm telling you not a day goes by that I'm worried about losing SSI--
catgumart 1 year ago
I hate the label "mental Illness" but I have to submit to it because there is no other validated description or understanding-I do have issues,difficulties and a type of struggle that is unique to me--that I share to different degrees with others--but it isn't illness--is it thwarting, it does it interfere. I believe that most so called sane-share many of these qualities-yet they have the right configuration of characteristics & circumstances so that they fit into the puzzle more snugly.
catgumart 1 year ago
Love the t-shirt John!
funk2ion 1 year ago
@ARJustOne
I agree to an extent--though I think people who are sensitive or, depressed, or have these issues can be wealthy-they definitely have many more options to utilize to treat themselves--whereas if you are working class or poor, you don't have many options-you can't afford to lose you're job, or maybe you are already on welfare--and everything is depressing at that level--there aren't many options for lower class people who have these issues and it really takes it's toll.
catgumart 1 year ago
Last comment here-the biggest problem is economic injustice-low wages, too much much work, classism, any type of better-ism--that takes precedence over acknowledging the person's humanity---People really don't realize the toll that economic lack takes--since people have a natural tendency to withhold, and hoard and wealth and power- the flow of money and resources gets blocked up and people suffer for it- it is one the biggest problems behind everything and it is a big factor in "Mental Illness"
catgumart 1 year ago
Why one person can succeed, or get by in society is reliant on many factors. People on the average--though I believe they have the potential for higher levels of understanding and compassion- are very judgmental & intolerant, & ignorant..unknowledgable. There is a lot of stress and antagonism, confusion and uncertainty --and it is in the ranks of the rich and those who have authority and it is within the working class and poor classes- most human beings are stumbling through the darkness.
catgumart 1 year ago
It really is very complex and people just want to say a person is nuts and flawed without taking into account all the problems within our human existence that lend themselves to these problems to different people for different reasons--I think a lot about how I would explain why I have my difficulties to someone, and it wouldn't be easy--I practice it actually, I'd need a whiteboard and some markers and need to illustrate it because just using words makes it hard to articulate.
catgumart 1 year ago
The way I see I see it-so called "Mental Illness" is a broad label that people who have a hard time within society in their existence for many reasons--but if the person isn't able to function within the bell curve then we need a clinical label to put on the person to excuse them because to acknowledge & validate all the reasons why a person has nervousness,depression,breakdowns, whatever-encompasses many different factors-it is easy & convenient to just say the person is flawed & defective.
catgumart 1 year ago
any chance to have your daughter back on?
DemonicSymphonic 1 year ago
@davebegotka Thou speakest the Truth!!!
GrandMasterSuperPhD 1 year ago
Sigh. Really sad. Obvioulsly not someone who was ever hanging on by their fingernails between life and death by severe, OPGANIC, herediary depression.
thisrainykitten 1 year ago
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dianeticstu 1 year ago
@dianeticstu I know what you mean.
sarevor 1 year ago
is it proven that the drugs cause mental illness? early death? If so please reference.
MsLittlemissSarah 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing. :)
atomarane 1 year ago
The green screen is annoying; can't you just get a background for the wall behind them?
apollo33 1 year ago 12
@apollo33 its blue :)
umba888 1 year ago
@apollo33 OMG i hope you dont take this the wrong way it is meant to be helpfull ,, do you see the screen as green ? the color is blue , are you color blind have you been diagnosed or checked for this ,, the screen is definetly blue sweetie , as a friend to watch it with you and the should see blue unless it is your computer color set different from mine , good luck :)
vlucidity 1 year ago
@vlucidity He is talking about the effects used, that backround is -not- the backround they are using whilst filming. Its an effect applied as you edit the video afterwards. A green/blue make it so you can place any backround you wish beind those that are sitting infront of it. Usually its just a mere sheet that is either pure green or Blue. He is reffering to the blue effect that is used, making it look very unreal and strange for the eyes - not the fact that the screen is "actually" green.
FrostWolfie 1 year ago
@apollo33 My monitor may need adjusting. Screen looks blue - appropriate color for the topic :-)
macpduff 1 year ago
@apollo33 My screen is blue !
ffatali 1 year ago
5th :D
69seffywtf 1 year ago
4th
jesse6638 1 year ago
wonderful informative video! thankyou. DR's
juelzsantana0088 1 year ago
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lacek2700 1 year ago