Hey MarshalZhukov, nice video! Thanks for the info and the help! I have a Connecticut Valley Arms .50 cal as well but I am missing one of the "barrel pins" (holds the barrel to the stock).. know where I can get a replacement?
@galacticinquisitor Maybe you can find one at a local sporting goods store. You could fashion one yourself out of some steel if you had a forge or anvil or know someone who does. I bet you could call a blacksmith and they could make one. Not sure where to get parts. I guess you could try CVA and see if they still make your model. They don't make mine anymore, so I can't get original parts for it. Tried to find a powder drum, would have to drill for a completely new one.
@MarshalZhukov Thanks for replying! Still a chance of finding it around here, but I did try to email CVA and the message bounced back to me, so we'll see what happens. The barrel stays in place just fine with the clip in the forward slot, though.
@4idahohunters ...not to sound like a smart ass but, actually the second to the last step in the step by step cleaning process in the owners manual says to rinse the cleaning solutions off with warm water and immediately dry, the last step being, to treat all metal surfaces with light coating of rust preventative gun oil or equalivant and reassemble.
Thanks for the video. I got one of these in a trade a few days ago. As far as I know, I'm the first one to fire it and had a blast. Kept blasting away till the cow and calf moose walked through the range.
Nice possibles bag. I have the exact same rifle. Actually got it out and took it to the range yesterday. Taught a friend of mine to shoot. That Hodgen seems to be a little cleaner than Pyrodex too.
@yzs4life Well, you probably shouldn't shoot it out. What kind of muzzle loader is it? And how long has it been loaded? If it's a percussion cap, you might be able to remove the nipple, and use a nozzle with some compressed air and possibly blow it out with air pressure. Or else your ramrod could have an attachment with a screw at the end to screw in to whatever projectile that might be in there and then pull it out. Unless you can remove some kind of breech plug and ram it out that way.
@MarshalZhukov Hey what i found out right after i commented is that my ramrod Which is longer then the one that the gun came with is 4 to 5 inches longer then the original was sticking out. then i took the original ramrod and measured and found that it wasnt loaded, i have another question when cleaning the barrel should i take the breach plug out? im new to muzzle loaders
@MarshalZhukov If it's easily removable, or designed to be removed, then it shouldn't hurt anything. A thorough cleaning of the barrel though should not warrant the removal of the plug on a traditional type muzzle loader anyways.
my dad has a traditional .50 cal kit muzzleloader. the ramrod that came with it broke like the second time he used it, so he went and bought a brass rod. it's the best ramrod i've ever used :)
@4idahohunters It will if you don't dry it out and just put it away wet. If you use a coat of bore butter or something in it, it will be just fine. I have been doing this for years, and not had any problems.
Very cool video. I shoot the 245 grain hollow point power belts out of my 50 cal. CVA optima magnum which i use year round on deer. Muzzleloaders have fast become my favorite gun to hunt with in recent years. Also, you didnt mention in your video so im not sure if you know, but that wire is for cleaning the breach after firing. But very cool video, best of luck on your future hunts.
@megadeth22885 Yep. Real black powder is really hard to find where I live. Fortunately Pyrodex P works almost as well and is alot easier to ignite than regular Pyrodex RS. It works great in my T/C New Englander.
@jakedaredneck Don't know as I ever tried that. I don't know how well they would work since you'd need a patch to shoot the .50 roundball. You might need something to go over the end so it won't fall out.
I had the same rifle... mainspring broke in the lock.... Great shooter overall (despite the short barrel as Im into KY and PA style rifles now...) Keep a CAREFUL eye on your mainspring!!! You'll notice its starting to go when it doesnt set off caps EVERY time, at that point replace the main spring if you can find one. Or get a spare now...
I wish I had just gotten a replacement spring instead of selling off the gun for 20 bucks... Wish I hadent gotten rid of that rifle...
Its set me back only what I put in to it. Which isn't much really. I just refinished the stock, it was in dire need of it. Not sure where it originated from, but got it from a guy who bought it at a garage sale in eastern WA. That guy gave it to my dad, and then I got it when he got a nice .54 cal muzzle loader. So it was a hand-me-down. Price was right, so I guess I shouldn't be disappointed. With the powerbelts I'm shooting, it'll pull a MOD shot @ 100 yds no problem.
You can rinse the barrel with clean boiling water if your getting water to draw up the barrel with your shotgun swabs or patches. Place it in a deep pan with fresh from the stove and draw up. Pull up water, pump it down and out several times and when the barrel gets too hot to hold grab with a rag and drain water. When water stops draining run a couple dry fresh patches and lean it up (muzzle down) against a wall to dry for a few minutes. While barrel is still hot to touch run your bore butter.
Yea I've used hot water before. Not quite boiling, but once the barrel is hot, it doesn't stay wet for long. Good suggestion. Lots of ways to get it cleaned up :)
Oh btw I think your muzzleloader is a "hawken", my dad owned one when I was a kid. If not its very similar. There are some vids on youtube of them, maybe worth a look to see if they look familiar. ;)
I thought it was at first. But, I am not sure if CVA made the Hawken. I wonder if Hawken is just referring to a type of muzzle loader, and the name is used by CVA, and Thompson Center, for examples. I think there are also Hawken kits you can buy. Not sure if this was a kit or not, but it shoots pretty good. I finally got my fiber optic sights on it. Will have it at the range again before late muzzle loader elk.
@MarshalZhukov Yep, CVA made a Hawken model, and that's definitely what you've got. My Hawkens are both Thompson Center and other than brand they are very nearly identical.
@MarshalZhukov thank you for the reply! my hunting buddy is going too have them change over to fiber i think that i will see what it shoots like by the way nice job on the bag!
@cory8791 Thanks! It was quite a bit of hard work, for sure. Well, for an amateur anyways! I have some rivets now, I ought to pound a couple in the top anyways. The shoe goo doesn't stick well to this oil tanned leather. I like the idea of extra reinforcement.
you'll get a littel more hunting in with the fiber optic sights i live in OR. too i'm getting them put on my t/c. i always see more stuff at the crack of dawn or almost dark out
I heat up a cup of water in the microwave real hot. Then I squirt a big gob of dishwasher soap like Dawn or Ajax down the barrel. Then dump my really hot water into a small funnel attached to the muzzle and scrub away with the wire brush until clean. Then rinse. Then dry out the barrel and heat it up by setting it over a register. I set my tube of bore butter into a really hot cup of water which then liquifies it. Then pour some on a patch and run it down my dry warm barrel. Works beautiful.
Do you know where to buy replacement parts for this rifle i have almost the exact same one. Thanks for the Video.
SlideLock1 1 month ago
Hey MarshalZhukov, nice video! Thanks for the info and the help! I have a Connecticut Valley Arms .50 cal as well but I am missing one of the "barrel pins" (holds the barrel to the stock).. know where I can get a replacement?
galacticinquisitor 3 months ago
@galacticinquisitor Maybe you can find one at a local sporting goods store. You could fashion one yourself out of some steel if you had a forge or anvil or know someone who does. I bet you could call a blacksmith and they could make one. Not sure where to get parts. I guess you could try CVA and see if they still make your model. They don't make mine anymore, so I can't get original parts for it. Tried to find a powder drum, would have to drill for a completely new one.
MarshalZhukov 3 months ago
@MarshalZhukov Thanks for replying! Still a chance of finding it around here, but I did try to email CVA and the message bounced back to me, so we'll see what happens. The barrel stays in place just fine with the clip in the forward slot, though.
galacticinquisitor 2 months ago
@galacticinquisitor try dixiegunworks
manfangle1 2 months ago
@4idahohunters ...not to sound like a smart ass but, actually the second to the last step in the step by step cleaning process in the owners manual says to rinse the cleaning solutions off with warm water and immediately dry, the last step being, to treat all metal surfaces with light coating of rust preventative gun oil or equalivant and reassemble.
BlltPrffAsssn 3 months ago
Thanks for the video. I got one of these in a trade a few days ago. As far as I know, I'm the first one to fire it and had a blast. Kept blasting away till the cow and calf moose walked through the range.
MrDeKemper 4 months ago
thanks to all the wolves they plant I won't probably get anything this year earthier thanks for the vid Idaho here
MrJeepford 4 months ago
Nice possibles bag. I have the exact same rifle. Actually got it out and took it to the range yesterday. Taught a friend of mine to shoot. That Hodgen seems to be a little cleaner than Pyrodex too.
littlestoney406 5 months ago
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yzs4life 6 months ago
@yzs4life Well, you probably shouldn't shoot it out. What kind of muzzle loader is it? And how long has it been loaded? If it's a percussion cap, you might be able to remove the nipple, and use a nozzle with some compressed air and possibly blow it out with air pressure. Or else your ramrod could have an attachment with a screw at the end to screw in to whatever projectile that might be in there and then pull it out. Unless you can remove some kind of breech plug and ram it out that way.
MarshalZhukov 6 months ago
@MarshalZhukov Hey what i found out right after i commented is that my ramrod Which is longer then the one that the gun came with is 4 to 5 inches longer then the original was sticking out. then i took the original ramrod and measured and found that it wasnt loaded, i have another question when cleaning the barrel should i take the breach plug out? im new to muzzle loaders
yzs4life 6 months ago
@MarshalZhukov If it's easily removable, or designed to be removed, then it shouldn't hurt anything. A thorough cleaning of the barrel though should not warrant the removal of the plug on a traditional type muzzle loader anyways.
MarshalZhukov 6 months ago
my dad has a traditional .50 cal kit muzzleloader. the ramrod that came with it broke like the second time he used it, so he went and bought a brass rod. it's the best ramrod i've ever used :)
al17778 6 months ago
not to be a smart ass but if you use water when you clean ur gun it will rust the barrel
4idahohunters 1 year ago
@4idahohunters It will if you don't dry it out and just put it away wet. If you use a coat of bore butter or something in it, it will be just fine. I have been doing this for years, and not had any problems.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago 2
@4idahohunters Water has been used to clean black powder guns for hundreds of years, partner.
whitethronebooks 8 months ago
Very cool video. I shoot the 245 grain hollow point power belts out of my 50 cal. CVA optima magnum which i use year round on deer. Muzzleloaders have fast become my favorite gun to hunt with in recent years. Also, you didnt mention in your video so im not sure if you know, but that wire is for cleaning the breach after firing. But very cool video, best of luck on your future hunts.
aftermath626 1 year ago
keep in mind the BP alternatives dont perform as well as standard black powder
megadeth22885 1 year ago
@megadeth22885 Yep. Real black powder is really hard to find where I live. Fortunately Pyrodex P works almost as well and is alot easier to ignite than regular Pyrodex RS. It works great in my T/C New Englander.
FergusonTO35 1 year ago
this is a hawken model rifle, i have the traditions 50cal hawken. they look almost the same. nice rifle!
shockurmom 1 year ago
nice rifle im looking to get one when the gun show coomes to town
solider1986 1 year ago
Sweet Rifle and great choice in music too! Did you kill anything when you took it out?
rcfalconry 1 year ago
@rcfalconry Unfortunately not. Didn't even see anything.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
Who said stitching was just for girls
BlackSabbath1204 1 year ago
first i hear three days grace. second what model is this
2013charger 1 year ago
@2013charger I don't know there is no model number for it that I am aware of.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
Can you use those speed loaders with .50 cal round ball?
jakedaredneck 1 year ago
@jakedaredneck Don't know as I ever tried that. I don't know how well they would work since you'd need a patch to shoot the .50 roundball. You might need something to go over the end so it won't fall out.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
@jakedaredneck yes u can use round ball and patch with a speed loader
solider1986 1 year ago
@jakedaredneck yes. put the ball with a lubed patch right into the speed loader as you would load the gun.
twinshlee 1 year ago
i got the same rifle
SnowFoxx416 2 years ago
I had the same rifle... mainspring broke in the lock.... Great shooter overall (despite the short barrel as Im into KY and PA style rifles now...) Keep a CAREFUL eye on your mainspring!!! You'll notice its starting to go when it doesnt set off caps EVERY time, at that point replace the main spring if you can find one. Or get a spare now...
I wish I had just gotten a replacement spring instead of selling off the gun for 20 bucks... Wish I hadent gotten rid of that rifle...
sentonal 2 years ago
fine rifle, how much did that set you back? I'd love to get one of those.
Simonov5966 2 years ago
Its set me back only what I put in to it. Which isn't much really. I just refinished the stock, it was in dire need of it. Not sure where it originated from, but got it from a guy who bought it at a garage sale in eastern WA. That guy gave it to my dad, and then I got it when he got a nice .54 cal muzzle loader. So it was a hand-me-down. Price was right, so I guess I shouldn't be disappointed. With the powerbelts I'm shooting, it'll pull a MOD shot @ 100 yds no problem.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
You can rinse the barrel with clean boiling water if your getting water to draw up the barrel with your shotgun swabs or patches. Place it in a deep pan with fresh from the stove and draw up. Pull up water, pump it down and out several times and when the barrel gets too hot to hold grab with a rag and drain water. When water stops draining run a couple dry fresh patches and lean it up (muzzle down) against a wall to dry for a few minutes. While barrel is still hot to touch run your bore butter.
80SpiritGT 2 years ago
Yea I've used hot water before. Not quite boiling, but once the barrel is hot, it doesn't stay wet for long. Good suggestion. Lots of ways to get it cleaned up :)
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Oh btw I think your muzzleloader is a "hawken", my dad owned one when I was a kid. If not its very similar. There are some vids on youtube of them, maybe worth a look to see if they look familiar. ;)
80SpiritGT 2 years ago
I thought it was at first. But, I am not sure if CVA made the Hawken. I wonder if Hawken is just referring to a type of muzzle loader, and the name is used by CVA, and Thompson Center, for examples. I think there are also Hawken kits you can buy. Not sure if this was a kit or not, but it shoots pretty good. I finally got my fiber optic sights on it. Will have it at the range again before late muzzle loader elk.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
@MarshalZhukov Yep, CVA made a Hawken model, and that's definitely what you've got. My Hawkens are both Thompson Center and other than brand they are very nearly identical.
Good video. :)
HooseBinPharteen 2 years ago
@MarshalZhukov how do you like the fiber optic sights? i live in oregon and this year they are allowing the use of them!!! thanks cory
cory8791 2 years ago
@cory8791 I like them. I would have preferred the peep sights I think, but these are pretty accurate, and great for low light situations.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
@MarshalZhukov thank you for the reply! my hunting buddy is going too have them change over to fiber i think that i will see what it shoots like by the way nice job on the bag!
cory8791 2 years ago
@cory8791 Thanks! It was quite a bit of hard work, for sure. Well, for an amateur anyways! I have some rivets now, I ought to pound a couple in the top anyways. The shoe goo doesn't stick well to this oil tanned leather. I like the idea of extra reinforcement.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
you'll get a littel more hunting in with the fiber optic sights i live in OR. too i'm getting them put on my t/c. i always see more stuff at the crack of dawn or almost dark out
cdsnutsfull 2 years ago
I heat up a cup of water in the microwave real hot. Then I squirt a big gob of dishwasher soap like Dawn or Ajax down the barrel. Then dump my really hot water into a small funnel attached to the muzzle and scrub away with the wire brush until clean. Then rinse. Then dry out the barrel and heat it up by setting it over a register. I set my tube of bore butter into a really hot cup of water which then liquifies it. Then pour some on a patch and run it down my dry warm barrel. Works beautiful.
nossful 2 years ago
Was out today, walked around for hours, unfortunately didn't see any elk. Saw a deer. Got rained on a little.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Dude you have some real tallent!!!!!!
Nice arrangement Marshal....nice arrangement!
Good luck on the hunt!!!! =]
Blacktail be ware!!!! =D
rugersix 2 years ago