@T1M3T0SH1N3 Well 2:37 is also based on a true story but its just not that popular, well im not sure about this but the story goes that the director had a friend named kelly. She had problems at school and comitted suicide. But anyway I liked more 2:37 because it centers a hell lot more with the students and their problems and the ending is kinda sad. In elephant the movie has 80 minutes of walking and the last 10 minutes of bad acting and fake shooting. But hey its just my opinion
I'm ending it right here. Elephant is based on the Columbine High school massacre and 2:37 isn't even really based on anything but some guys mind. Elephant was real and 2:37 was just showing a teenage suicide that seems to be happening in the school. A movie like this needs to be based on something that actually happened and reveals more meaning to what actually happened and not just be copied for anyone to use.
@T1M3T0SH1N3 not really, suicide happens everyday and just cause its not on the news doesnt make it any less important, yes elephant was good, but 2:37 shows the everyday life of a teen and how, one little thing can change someones life,,,
@T1M3T0SH1N3 whether there the same or not there showing to persective of different ways people go about them... so ending there life, or shooting up the school :S
Wow, you did a great job making this :) I've got to say there ARE a lot of similarities between the two films, in terms of how it was shot and the repeated sequences especially. The viewing experience I had totally differed between the two films though. I found Elephant had this searing, unbearable intensity about it, which I actually found terrifying, even when there was nothing visually scary on screen. In comparison, 2:37 seemed much more relaxed to me but the story fit together much better.
i think they are both equally good movies to be honest... and the director of 2:37 thanked gus van sant in the credits, so im assuming that means that the style was obviously used, but gus was aware of it and okay with it.
Well elephant was mostly improvisation in the acting, this is why it lacks the emotion and sort of empathy you feel for the characters in 2:37. Both are great movies though.
I COMPLETELY disagree. 2:37 is by far superior to Elephant. While it's true that Van Sant's creation was wholly original and artistic, Elephant is, at times, dull to the point of absurdity. It doesn't allow the audience to connect with the characters, opting to create a level of comfort and predictibility until the final moments. 2:37, however, leads you astray and makes you so involved with these kid's tragic lives. The ending is much more thought- provoking and poignant than its predecessor.
generic scenes of people walking, cars driving, and teenagers doing things that teenagers do (such as bullying each other and gossiping in front of the bathroom mirror)? seriously, throw in any teen flick and i guarantee you it will look eerily alike
I have seen zero day, elephant and 2:37. In my opinion, all three movies are amazing in their own way. I also recommend people to watch all of them, really well done and amazing movies. The one I recommend most is Zero Day. Then Elephant, then 2:37. thats just my opinion.
I saw elephant in theaters... I remember renting 2:37 on demand one night & I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It ripped off elephant so hard it was mindblowing. the suicide scene in 2:37 is also completely exploitative & really takes away from the film, imo. elephant is a much greater artistic achievement. it is a truly great film. its not entertaining by any means, but it is beautiful.
I 've never seen Elephant, but I have seen 2:37 (the graphic scenes scared the crap outta me), and people are always talking about the comparisons. I thought they meant similar story lines of something....and had no idea they were THAT close....PS: Love the ending
Well, I gotta say the music went well with that video.
And it's shocking to me the similarities between the 2 movies. I've watched Elephant on many occasions and I loved it, now I'm gonna have to watch 2:37 to see if it's worth my time :)
Both of these films could have been so much better- Elephant had it had the slightest bit of emotion/insight; 2:37 had it been put in the hands of a competent filmmaker.
2:37 does steal liberally from Elephant stylistically, but it uses what it steals in a totally different way and the pivotal event it's based on is completely different. They're both legit films, and I admire both of them.
Yeah, I didn't know what the hell I was watching when I first saw this on pay per view. Thought it was just a boring school renactment thing. Then the shooting started, and I was blown away.
i think it was good =) Really deep movie that makes you think. But there are many different meanings about the movie, so some people may tell you it's crap and stuff, but it depends on the person watching it.
Its such an unexpecting ending, you have to watch it quite carefully to remember what happened previously cus you dont realise until the end why it happened? if you get me but anyway.. theres like a few teenagers and there all going through a rough time and it just starts out by introducing the characters and then it all links together in the end as to why this person killed themself, (it shows you at the beginning that someone like died) bad explanation sorry lol
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Okay, people walking? Seriously? That's not copying, so what if the camera followed someone up the stairs in both movies, shouldn't the camera follow the actor up the stairs when they walk up the stairs?
There are only so many frames mankind can come up with, sometimes repetition occurs, and we can't do a thing about it. This on the other hand, this is over-doing it.. so much for originality! But hey, we never said we liked Hollywood for originality, did we? We can all relate to Hollywood.. utilize emotions, you utilize the income the audience gladly throws at you. Film 101 people. Welcome to the wonderful world of movies.
Elephant really dissapointed me... There wasn't enough character development to leave an effect on me. It was like half a movie...
Then I saw 2:37, which was pretty much a much better version of elephant. Sure, they took some techniques from elephant, but the storyline is still much better. Not to mention that elephant had a school shooting to work with, while 2:37 only had a teen suicide.
Sorry, guys, but 2:37 was better. Even if it did take a lot from elephant.
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I agree. 237 was much better than elephant. I felt that elephant was very unemotional throughout the film. And there was no character development so you never felt bad for the kids dying. There was no connection between the audience and the movie. On the other hand 237 created a strong emotional connection with each of the characters, and you even had a connection with the person who got the least amount of air time, which turns out to be the twist. You still connected to her.
I've never seen Elephant but have seen 2:37. I think 2:37 is great but judging by this video, it really does appear very similar to Elephant....at least in filming techniques anyway.
@fuckyourselfalone depends on what u were looking for if u wanted a movie basied on a tragic moment in history ( columbine high school=elephant) or something that happens everyday yet we're to blind to notice other's problems and only on our own, not realizing people go through it..whether we see it or not,, =2:37 everyone has a perspective,,,
xxMuseFanaticxx on this one. although it seems like a very similar film, i think the motives behind 2:37 are different. but then again i cant really speak until i have seen elephant. does it follow the same story line?
elephant does not follow the same story line. Though there are very much similarities, the plot line is very different. I recently saw 2:37 and in the very beginning i thought it was copied from the Elephant, but the main story is different. I think you indeed should see this movie too, if you liked 2:37! :D (the ending is different!!!!)
It actually steals the exact same themes and instead of portraying them through subtle exposition (I.E Elephant) it has a character outright state it! 2:37 is a ripoff- not just because of the same style and structure, but due to all of the combining elements. The only difference is that Elephant is an excellent film, whilst 2:37 is like a poor man's (soap-opera esque)version.
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OMG.. 2:37 was so much better it was wayy more interesting unlike elephant it was so boring like ur waiting for something to happan and the ending is predictable . 2:37 ending is so unexpected and the different plots where really good.
I have not yet seen Elephant, but i do absolutely love 2:37
This video does show though that in 2:37 the director did steal alot of the same filming concepts, but i feel that it is still its own movie and maybe instead of comparing, we should just accept them for seperate brilliance.
haha, that was really well put together, i did find it remarkably similar, but i dont necessarly think of it as a bad thing. I just think it was the style of cinematography that was similar, everything else more of a coincidence
i enjoyed both of these movies but i think that thalluri's is a little more special because it's very personal for him. it was inspired by the death of his friend that killed herself at 2:37 in the afternoon. the character of kelly is based on her.
i agree that there are a lot of similarities but there is nothing wrong with being inspired & gus van sant has not complained, so why is everyone else?
and to be fair, you've put together even the tiniest similarites, like girls pulling shirts over their heads? please, you might as well call every movie in history a copy if you're going to focus on silly things like that ...
There is a difference between homage and rip-off, and in my opinion this movie tips heavily towards the latter.
If you can make a video that shows the same level of similarities in terms of aesthetics (both visual and sound design) and themes using two unrelated films, I'd love to see it. Seriously.
Do you reckon 2:37 was meant to be a copy because it is so obvious. Honestly how could you not think anyone wouldnt notice how similar 2:37 is to elephant?
both movies have basically the same endings too. teen boys depression and anger and more extrovert (school shootings) whereas teen girls anger and depression is more intorvert (suicide). total copy.
i'm pretty sure i commented on this video a long time ago, but i've seen both movies now (before i had only seen elephant), and i have to say that i thought elephant was much better.
The point is to show that 2:37 has the same aesthetic as Elephant, with shots that can be superimposed. It also uses the same technique of replaying scenes from different points of view. I'm unclear how that is considered taken out of context.
Part 2 is mainly concerned with audio and thematic similarities, so I don't see the relevance of your comment.
But if you're talking context, it's important to acknowledge that 2:37 does take many elements from Elephant, whether you like the film or not.
In your video, you make it seem like they're the same movie. I could care less if you didn't mean to, and I'm sure you didn't mean to. However, to people who haven't seen either of these movies, it is especially discouraging for people who want to see both movies. Your tags "copycat rip off copy clone unoriginal" didn't help either.
I fail to see how having the same sound designer has anything to do with aesthetics.
If we're nitpicking, the phrase is could'NT care less.
By the comments, it seems this movie has made a few curious about 2:37. I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Sure, one is about shooting, the other suicide, but there are many, many other similarities that make 2:37 derivative. If you disagree, so be it.
This movie interleaves visually similar things, seeing Leslie Shatz CST twice fitted the bill. The results of having the same sound designer are explored in part 2.
Also, Thalluri said in his audio commentary that 2:37 was visually inspired by Elephant so I guess there would be some similar shots.
Trickling water in a hallway has no audio, aesthetic, or thematic similarities to
And I just can't believe that two movies would each actually have slow motion, people surfing the net, people taking to each other, or birds chirping. Such a ripoff!
A school shooting, and a teacher talking about a school shooting too? Yeah, that's a big similarity!
To be visually inspired is one thing, but I and a number of reviews consider this going into rip-off levels.
The sound of trickling water is a sound effect added in both movies to evoke a sombre mood rather than realism, I'm not sure why that doesn't count as an audio similarity.
If these shots are really taken out of context then as you say, you should be able to make a similar comparison movie using Elephant and another unrelated highschool movie. I encourage you or anyone else to try it.
i just bought and watched 2:37 and i liked it but actually i'd imagined it to be a little different and also a little better... should i still watch elephant?
@T1M3T0SH1N3 Well 2:37 is also based on a true story but its just not that popular, well im not sure about this but the story goes that the director had a friend named kelly. She had problems at school and comitted suicide. But anyway I liked more 2:37 because it centers a hell lot more with the students and their problems and the ending is kinda sad. In elephant the movie has 80 minutes of walking and the last 10 minutes of bad acting and fake shooting. But hey its just my opinion
ChickenFriedA 5 months ago
Fuck
elchamber 5 months ago
I'm ending it right here. Elephant is based on the Columbine High school massacre and 2:37 isn't even really based on anything but some guys mind. Elephant was real and 2:37 was just showing a teenage suicide that seems to be happening in the school. A movie like this needs to be based on something that actually happened and reveals more meaning to what actually happened and not just be copied for anyone to use.
T1M3T0SH1N3 6 months ago
@T1M3T0SH1N3 not really, suicide happens everyday and just cause its not on the news doesnt make it any less important, yes elephant was good, but 2:37 shows the everyday life of a teen and how, one little thing can change someones life,,,
xoxoxpeaches 3 months ago
@xoxoxpeaches Just like Elephant... (Bullying)
T1M3T0SH1N3 3 months ago
@T1M3T0SH1N3 whether there the same or not there showing to persective of different ways people go about them... so ending there life, or shooting up the school :S
xoxoxpeaches 3 months ago
Wow, you did a great job making this :) I've got to say there ARE a lot of similarities between the two films, in terms of how it was shot and the repeated sequences especially. The viewing experience I had totally differed between the two films though. I found Elephant had this searing, unbearable intensity about it, which I actually found terrifying, even when there was nothing visually scary on screen. In comparison, 2:37 seemed much more relaxed to me but the story fit together much better.
sraphael 6 months ago
both are good movies, but 2:37 is better
fancywords 7 months ago
i think they are both equally good movies to be honest... and the director of 2:37 thanked gus van sant in the credits, so im assuming that means that the style was obviously used, but gus was aware of it and okay with it.
alltimehighhhx23 8 months ago 2
2: 37 is better, and yes, I did thought of Elephant watching it, but I stil liked it better.
KaiserMate 8 months ago
I wonder how many times you watched both movies to spot these numerous minor similarities.
Mutantgamer 8 months ago
elephant f**king sux!
DasBeda 9 months ago
@DasBeda How did that happened? Just type "Fuck."
elchamber 5 months ago
@elchamber k: elephant fucking sucked!
DasBeda 5 months ago
WOW
555yo 10 months ago
2:37 vs. Elephant? EVANGELION IS BETTER
quelo007 10 months ago 2
Amazing video!
rick0223 10 months ago
2:37 is better, in my opinion. Also, Elephant has too much.....walking.
Mutantgamer 1 year ago 6
Yes, they are in some way simmilar, but I must say: 2:37 is WAY BETTER than Elephant...
a7xaresimplythebest 1 year ago 2
thanks for making an awesome video. it's now apart of my favorites!
blinkoffyourpants 1 year ago
anime music help
SandersonCallum 1 year ago
Well elephant was mostly improvisation in the acting, this is why it lacks the emotion and sort of empathy you feel for the characters in 2:37. Both are great movies though.
Ravaskeith 1 year ago
Murali K. Thalluri lol wow wat a hack ***K i mean WOW
violenceinc 1 year ago 2
It was inspired by elephant however 2:37 is muh better because your more connected to the charaters
Kudos though to the fight club quote a the end (:
LookItsColette 1 year ago
I COMPLETELY disagree. 2:37 is by far superior to Elephant. While it's true that Van Sant's creation was wholly original and artistic, Elephant is, at times, dull to the point of absurdity. It doesn't allow the audience to connect with the characters, opting to create a level of comfort and predictibility until the final moments. 2:37, however, leads you astray and makes you so involved with these kid's tragic lives. The ending is much more thought- provoking and poignant than its predecessor.
Kroovy68 1 year ago 2
doesnt matter Zero Day is the best
swantonist 1 year ago 3
generic scenes of people walking, cars driving, and teenagers doing things that teenagers do (such as bullying each other and gossiping in front of the bathroom mirror)? seriously, throw in any teen flick and i guarantee you it will look eerily alike
ladygodivababy 1 year ago
I have seen zero day, elephant and 2:37. In my opinion, all three movies are amazing in their own way. I also recommend people to watch all of them, really well done and amazing movies. The one I recommend most is Zero Day. Then Elephant, then 2:37. thats just my opinion.
GuitarBabe2507 1 year ago
i like zero day better
SamuelTecun 1 year ago 2
Well done for this video! Love it
beethebeee 1 year ago 2
I saw elephant in theaters... I remember renting 2:37 on demand one night & I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It ripped off elephant so hard it was mindblowing. the suicide scene in 2:37 is also completely exploitative & really takes away from the film, imo. elephant is a much greater artistic achievement. it is a truly great film. its not entertaining by any means, but it is beautiful.
PukingWithLaughter 1 year ago 6
Elephant is much better IMO :3... I watched both of them
Sudsmcduff96 1 year ago 5
i like elephant its just they repeated so many scenes and it was way to long but hey just my opinion
redroofinn7o 1 year ago
I 've never seen Elephant, but I have seen 2:37 (the graphic scenes scared the crap outta me), and people are always talking about the comparisons. I thought they meant similar story lines of something....and had no idea they were THAT close....PS: Love the ending
voirmoi1 1 year ago
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greyistight 1 year ago
nice fight club quote at the end.
though I'll admit. I likes 2:37 alot better then elephant.
LookItsColette 1 year ago
Elephant is cool.
WisconsinRebals2010 1 year ago
Well, I gotta say the music went well with that video.
And it's shocking to me the similarities between the 2 movies. I've watched Elephant on many occasions and I loved it, now I'm gonna have to watch 2:37 to see if it's worth my time :)
Allykins4801 2 years ago 3
What the fuck is 2:37???? And what the fuck is ELEPHANT???? Are these like based on the Columbine shooting or something??? WTF???
GrimRussellUV 2 years ago
@GrimRussellUV how about you calm the fuck down.
evanlovestdwp 1 year ago
Um, I don't wanna seem rude, but why'd you watch this video if you had no idea what Elephant and 2:37 are?
voirmoi1 1 year ago
Like 90% of the watchers here is a elephant fan right? Guess there's no reason to defend 2:37... I mean I liked that movie.
And I saw Elephant. At first I didn't like it, then later on... It got more interesting.
ikkedoch 2 years ago
Please don't shoot me.
I liked 2:37 better.
ikkedoch 2 years ago 2
@ikkedoch Me too! A LOT better!
rarabee123 2 years ago
Both of these films could have been so much better- Elephant had it had the slightest bit of emotion/insight; 2:37 had it been put in the hands of a competent filmmaker.
MrMackeyMmmkay 2 years ago
When I was watching the movie 2:37 it reminded me of the movie Elephant in many ways. I enjoyed both movies.
redrose3693 2 years ago
I don't think it's a copy or maybe it is but...the both are really differents...
The only things , who seems like : the characters &, the manner of filming ,
The story is totally different!! The both are dramatic of course...but really not the same...
Me too I think about a copy before...but I think about this and realize that I was wrong ;)
Ps ; sorry for my English...
MrsMargoww 2 years ago
fight club in the ending :D
bojakanele 2 years ago 5
2:37 was an extremely powerful film, whether it copied Elephant or not. I've never seen Elephant, though.
bananas1and2 2 years ago
2:37 does steal liberally from Elephant stylistically, but it uses what it steals in a totally different way and the pivotal event it's based on is completely different. They're both legit films, and I admire both of them.
mistabobdobolina 2 years ago
Elephant <3333
NaomixShizzle 2 years ago
Yeah, I didn't know what the hell I was watching when I first saw this on pay per view. Thought it was just a boring school renactment thing. Then the shooting started, and I was blown away.
Terrribly powerful flick
nevrest 2 years ago
Haha! Love this, reminds me of something I'd see before getting on the indianna jones ride in disneyland. U know, those adventure pre-ride movies.
Good times...
BigCalzone13 2 years ago
Im bored so Ill watch both :D
TyrantGoat 2 years ago
:35... hott.
mussman717word 2 years ago
Wow. And LOL @ the elephants at the end.
Well, even so. 2:37 was an amazing movie, extremely disturbing and emotional. Not that Elephant wasn't. I just think 2:37 beat it.
NevermoreRaven 2 years ago
Hey, can someone tell about 237 i might see it. Don't spoil it just tell me if its watch worthy.
fdff4 2 years ago
i think it was good =) Really deep movie that makes you think. But there are many different meanings about the movie, so some people may tell you it's crap and stuff, but it depends on the person watching it.
angelswings19 2 years ago 2
i think it is, very hard to watch some part, kind a graphic , very very good movie with a great story line
egon55 2 years ago
Don't watch it unless you can handle some really fucked up situations, and be able to actually watch them. It's pretty graphic, but really good.
NevermoreRaven 2 years ago
Its soooo good :)
Its such an unexpecting ending, you have to watch it quite carefully to remember what happened previously cus you dont realise until the end why it happened? if you get me but anyway.. theres like a few teenagers and there all going through a rough time and it just starts out by introducing the characters and then it all links together in the end as to why this person killed themself, (it shows you at the beginning that someone like died) bad explanation sorry lol
SM062K8 2 years ago
Elephant sucked.
3/4 of the movie are people walking , last part has gay sex and people shot off screen. lol.
thevladdo 2 years ago 2
is this an actual movie and what is it based on it looks good?
zboy265 2 years ago
its a actual movie its called elephant school shooting movie
Missaliiskawaii 2 years ago
well im sold. and having seen elephant before and not having seen 2:37 id say we've got a classic case of dick knocking.
violenceinc 2 years ago
the girl on 0:35 is hooot
puerca2323 2 years ago
i want to see 2:37. elephant couldve been better but for some reason it didn't pull enough emotion from the audience.
kali4good 2 years ago
You kiddin me I was so depresse after watching it...
cAMP1HO 2 years ago
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Okay, people walking? Seriously? That's not copying, so what if the camera followed someone up the stairs in both movies, shouldn't the camera follow the actor up the stairs when they walk up the stairs?
WillowedMoon 2 years ago
Yea I thought that 2:37 def ripped off Elephant, but I also thought that 2:37 was more engaging emotionally than Elephant
theSANTOScursesyou 2 years ago
elephant is like one of the best movies ever
MigjawPuppet91 2 years ago 9
my favorite movie <33
r1zr1za 2 years ago
There are only so many frames mankind can come up with, sometimes repetition occurs, and we can't do a thing about it. This on the other hand, this is over-doing it.. so much for originality! But hey, we never said we liked Hollywood for originality, did we? We can all relate to Hollywood.. utilize emotions, you utilize the income the audience gladly throws at you. Film 101 people. Welcome to the wonderful world of movies.
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Elephant really dissapointed me... There wasn't enough character development to leave an effect on me. It was like half a movie...
Then I saw 2:37, which was pretty much a much better version of elephant. Sure, they took some techniques from elephant, but the storyline is still much better. Not to mention that elephant had a school shooting to work with, while 2:37 only had a teen suicide.
Sorry, guys, but 2:37 was better. Even if it did take a lot from elephant.
NotUnintelligent 2 years ago
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I agree. 237 was much better than elephant. I felt that elephant was very unemotional throughout the film. And there was no character development so you never felt bad for the kids dying. There was no connection between the audience and the movie. On the other hand 237 created a strong emotional connection with each of the characters, and you even had a connection with the person who got the least amount of air time, which turns out to be the twist. You still connected to her.
Bobbobbyboberton 2 years ago
yea elephant seemed like there was much more detail and depth missing. i have yet to see 2:37
kali4good 2 years ago
isn't the "copy of a copy of a copy" from fight club?
kilogreim 2 years ago 11
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2:37 is better :)
JulianEugene 2 years ago
I've never seen Elephant but have seen 2:37. I think 2:37 is great but judging by this video, it really does appear very similar to Elephant....at least in filming techniques anyway.
sraphael 2 years ago
Elephant came out first
Lisa13245 2 years ago 23
elephant is better
fuckyourselfalone 2 years ago 35
wats it about?
Lagirl74 2 years ago
based on the columbia high school shooting
CUTEpandaDancing 2 years ago
*columbine
FakeSickProductions 2 years ago
@fuckyourselfalone depends on what u were looking for if u wanted a movie basied on a tragic moment in history ( columbine high school=elephant) or something that happens everyday yet we're to blind to notice other's problems and only on our own, not realizing people go through it..whether we see it or not,, =2:37 everyone has a perspective,,,
xoxoxpeaches 3 months ago
wow thats so cool
is 2:37 supposed to be some kinda remake??
owenissalty 2 years ago 8
not at all, its not even about a school shooting, its about a suicide
jamielovesjesse 2 years ago
dang that was insane
jaxyjaxs 2 years ago 10
elephent is better
RiggsSessomsfilms 2 years ago 9
damn why its the same
tylerdurden0005 2 years ago 5
I still really like Elefant.
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2:37 is SO much better...I just watched Elephant with high hopes-but it was very dissapointing.
MrsMonaghan 2 years ago
where did you watch it? I cant seem to find it any where
darquenite 2 years ago 2
Elephant is on this site.
MrsMonaghan 2 years ago 2
Im talking about 2:37
Ive seen Elephant and loved it. And now you are sayong that 2:37 is better so I really want to see it.
darquenite 2 years ago
Oh sorry my mistake! But yeah 2:37 is on this site too.
MrsMonaghan 2 years ago
i am with
xxMuseFanaticxx on this one. although it seems like a very similar film, i think the motives behind 2:37 are different. but then again i cant really speak until i have seen elephant. does it follow the same story line?
metfan89 2 years ago
elephant does not follow the same story line. Though there are very much similarities, the plot line is very different. I recently saw 2:37 and in the very beginning i thought it was copied from the Elephant, but the main story is different. I think you indeed should see this movie too, if you liked 2:37! :D (the ending is different!!!!)
fannofeverything 2 years ago
It actually steals the exact same themes and instead of portraying them through subtle exposition (I.E Elephant) it has a character outright state it! 2:37 is a ripoff- not just because of the same style and structure, but due to all of the combining elements. The only difference is that Elephant is an excellent film, whilst 2:37 is like a poor man's (soap-opera esque)version.
Jess046 2 years ago 3
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OMG.. 2:37 was so much better it was wayy more interesting unlike elephant it was so boring like ur waiting for something to happan and the ending is predictable . 2:37 ending is so unexpected and the different plots where really good.
v12girl 2 years ago
donde consigo la pelicula completa
shalo372 2 years ago
elephant was way better than 2:37
nuckaroz 3 years ago 11
does n e one kno a link so i can watch Elephant?
DawnToDusk 3 years ago 3
you can look it up on tudou(.)com
Bobbobbyboberton 2 years ago
This was really well put together
AndySiner 3 years ago 14
Merci beaucoup!
Demlocke 2 years ago
Interesting!
GalaxyFireworks 3 years ago 4
What's the piece of music used?
EvilRadiatedMonkey 3 years ago
"Both of You, Dance Like You Want to Win!" from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Demlocke 3 years ago 2
This from Neon Genesis Evangelion? Wow, really good. That series had a great soundtrack. Quite amazed.
EvilRadiatedMonkey 3 years ago 2
I thought that sounded familiar, what episode did you rip it from?
ionthegravity 2 years ago
Check the video info.
Demlocke 2 years ago
I have not yet seen Elephant, but i do absolutely love 2:37
This video does show though that in 2:37 the director did steal alot of the same filming concepts, but i feel that it is still its own movie and maybe instead of comparing, we should just accept them for seperate brilliance.
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xxMuseFanaticxx 3 years ago
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well for one thing, LOL at you counting shots of trees and the sky as similarities.
and also wasn't Elephant based on another movie to the point that it has the SAME TITLE
LovesFlowers 3 years ago
haha
your editing to the music is so well done
that I can't help but find this video somewhat comical
hgblover 3 years ago 5
That was really good.When I saw 2:27, I was like wait a minute, this shit is like Deja Vu
cuteislandchild 3 years ago 3
haha, that was really well put together, i did find it remarkably similar, but i dont necessarly think of it as a bad thing. I just think it was the style of cinematography that was similar, everything else more of a coincidence
caspash13lds 3 years ago
the guyd kissing in 2:37 is gross, in elephant its hot
hardstreetbambi 3 years ago 4
.... did you seriously put the fact that both movies showed someone going up a flight of stairs as a 'copy'?
xXKatieVengeanceXx 3 years ago
when it comes to camera work/audio in the movie, 2:37 may have taken the technique from elephant, but honestly does it MUCH better, sorry gus
vlcmgrl 3 years ago
ok why did these people think the 2 guys were gay?
metamano 3 years ago 2
which ones ... from elephant..they weren't they just ... u know wat...u must already know why ok...
lowlowteen 3 years ago
i enjoyed both of these movies but i think that thalluri's is a little more special because it's very personal for him. it was inspired by the death of his friend that killed herself at 2:37 in the afternoon. the character of kelly is based on her.
thebodiescannotveto 3 years ago
Actually, it seems she never existed.
When the movie came out in Australia there was a lot of press about how Thalluri had made up the story of her death just for publicity.
Fellow Aussie filmmaker Daniel Krige said he heard the cinematographer claim it was all made up.
Nobody at Murali's old school ever heard of the suicide.
There are no obituaries that match Thalluri's description.
This "friend" was never identified.
It's so dodgy.
Sorry if you were conned by him. He should be ashamed.
Demlocke 3 years ago
i agree that there are a lot of similarities but there is nothing wrong with being inspired & gus van sant has not complained, so why is everyone else?
and to be fair, you've put together even the tiniest similarites, like girls pulling shirts over their heads? please, you might as well call every movie in history a copy if you're going to focus on silly things like that ...
thebodiescannotveto 3 years ago
There is a difference between homage and rip-off, and in my opinion this movie tips heavily towards the latter.
If you can make a video that shows the same level of similarities in terms of aesthetics (both visual and sound design) and themes using two unrelated films, I'd love to see it. Seriously.
Demlocke 3 years ago
2:37 is a way way way better movie and its not about shooting up a school
roloug95 3 years ago
Yeah, I agree.
I didn't like Elephant at all, and I actually loved 2:37..
oosa 3 years ago
Do you reckon 2:37 was meant to be a copy because it is so obvious. Honestly how could you not think anyone wouldnt notice how similar 2:37 is to elephant?
luxlisbon33 3 years ago
both movies have basically the same endings too. teen boys depression and anger and more extrovert (school shootings) whereas teen girls anger and depression is more intorvert (suicide). total copy.
izzymop 3 years ago 2
LOOOOOOL the sound designer part made me laugh!!
stickhrk 3 years ago 2
it's incredible to me the blindness or stupidity of people to still doubt or deny the similarities and even blatant copying... great video
unbunny 3 years ago 2
the movie was alright i love when he is playing the piano it is gret the movie could have been a lil better
metker87 3 years ago 2
i don't really know each one is better.
elephant chocked without all the violence and sex scenes.
but both are great
amandasch73915 3 years ago
that thing at the end is from fight club right?
PASTEY1 3 years ago 2
haha I liked this montage, although I perfer 2:37 to Elephant, whether it copied or not. It was a much deeper film imo.
BretagneShrew 3 years ago
i'm pretty sure i commented on this video a long time ago, but i've seen both movies now (before i had only seen elephant), and i have to say that i thought elephant was much better.
couture2438 3 years ago 2
So your trying to say that copying almost the exact same shots from other movies is bad?
kendolandon 3 years ago
How and where on earth did you get this song? I can't get it out of my head
davemark522 3 years ago 4
The song is called "Both of you, dance like you want to win". It's from the soundtrack of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Demlocke 3 years ago
elephant is best and the blonde guy played stacy peralta
slipfaknotic1 3 years ago 4
hey its stacy peralta
slipfaknotic1 3 years ago 3
2:37 might have copied elephant but it's still better and actually had a point to it.
ilovevideos1000 3 years ago
What was the point of 2:37? High school sucks? Overachievers rape their sisters? The most popular boys in school are all closeted gays?
Elephant wasn't supposed to have a point to it. It wasn't meant to be a cheesy teen soap opera like 2:37.
evanraufbold 3 years ago
Was the "copy of a copy of a copy" from Fight Club?
brownbaglady 3 years ago 7
Yes, well spotted.
Demlocke 3 years ago
Shatz! Curse you!
ohnookgo 3 years ago 3
Ahahahah, this was awesome. I have to say, Elephant was better than 2:37. I thought the latter was kind of over-the-top.
MondeTriste1 3 years ago 2
was that blonde guy in The Heart is Deceitful Above all Things??
lolyinx 3 years ago
Yeah.
MondeTriste1 3 years ago
This might be too complicated, but I can imagine one film showing parallel schools in different parts of the world, culminating in both endings.
drawswithcrayon 3 years ago
luv 2;37.. best movie ever.. except.. its sad aand all
Chcuky14 3 years ago
wow, i just finished watching 2:37. Absolutely wonderful, but at the same time, completely depressing. LOl!
Mustard909 3 years ago 2
were can you buy it
shinningstar1994 3 years ago
2:37 is possibly the worst film ever made
lycrahoofie 3 years ago
Okay, a lot of these are taken completely out of context especially in part 2/2.
Although some of the shots are the same, the stories are almost entirely different.
Both movies are very good and should be enjoyed separately.
Judgekrabs 3 years ago
The point is to show that 2:37 has the same aesthetic as Elephant, with shots that can be superimposed. It also uses the same technique of replaying scenes from different points of view. I'm unclear how that is considered taken out of context.
Part 2 is mainly concerned with audio and thematic similarities, so I don't see the relevance of your comment.
But if you're talking context, it's important to acknowledge that 2:37 does take many elements from Elephant, whether you like the film or not.
Demlocke 3 years ago
In your video, you make it seem like they're the same movie. I could care less if you didn't mean to, and I'm sure you didn't mean to. However, to people who haven't seen either of these movies, it is especially discouraging for people who want to see both movies. Your tags "copycat rip off copy clone unoriginal" didn't help either.
I fail to see how having the same sound designer has anything to do with aesthetics.
Judgekrabs 3 years ago
If we're nitpicking, the phrase is could'NT care less.
By the comments, it seems this movie has made a few curious about 2:37. I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Sure, one is about shooting, the other suicide, but there are many, many other similarities that make 2:37 derivative. If you disagree, so be it.
This movie interleaves visually similar things, seeing Leslie Shatz CST twice fitted the bill. The results of having the same sound designer are explored in part 2.
Demlocke 3 years ago
Sound design is an aspect of aesthetics you fucking retard.
revolutionow420 3 years ago 3
Also, Thalluri said in his audio commentary that 2:37 was visually inspired by Elephant so I guess there would be some similar shots.
Trickling water in a hallway has no audio, aesthetic, or thematic similarities to
And I just can't believe that two movies would each actually have slow motion, people surfing the net, people taking to each other, or birds chirping. Such a ripoff!
A school shooting, and a teacher talking about a school shooting too? Yeah, that's a big similarity!
Judgekrabs 3 years ago
To be visually inspired is one thing, but I and a number of reviews consider this going into rip-off levels.
The sound of trickling water is a sound effect added in both movies to evoke a sombre mood rather than realism, I'm not sure why that doesn't count as an audio similarity.
If these shots are really taken out of context then as you say, you should be able to make a similar comparison movie using Elephant and another unrelated highschool movie. I encourage you or anyone else to try it.
Demlocke 3 years ago
who's the blond kid in the yellow tshirt?
his name in the movie and his real name pls
angelbuffy4 3 years ago
his real name is john robinson
LolaRay999 3 years ago
he's starring also in Lords of Dogtown with heath ledger (RIP) and emile hirsch.
maxsydow88 3 years ago
his character in the movie is John McFarland
nukemachine503 3 years ago
is 2:37 also about the shooting?
ROCKINGxPEANUT 3 years ago
no its about a girl who commits suicide in her school
nukemachine503 3 years ago
i just bought and watched 2:37 and i liked it but actually i'd imagined it to be a little different and also a little better... should i still watch elephant?
Lifeisworthit 4 years ago
yes!!
nukemachine503 4 years ago 2
what a shame!
madrereus16 4 years ago
yeah, it's exactly the same, both of the are cool though elephant is the best one
dinmolle 4 years ago
I def am going to watch both movies!
Lifeisworthit 4 years ago
They Are Two Differant Movie Deal With It. If Anything 2:37 Is More Confronting Then Elephant
xRHYSCOREx 4 years ago
whats the song?
EnergyBoy007 4 years ago