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  • the white guy..i guess that ones toby shoul djust relax man. no need to get exxcited and stumble into him. His footwork wasn't bad until he got excited then his legs got all trembly and shit. Just relax and take your time man no need to throw all those power strikes. in striking the ability to keep your cool is key

  • if u put a bad boxer in the ring... ur going to get a bad fight

  • MMA fighter just threw power punches and boxer was using skill and strategy obviously though that boxer was scared or something cuz he threw WEAK jabs!

  • black guy sucks he dont even know how to box

  • @h3kticLeb im guessing ur a professional boxer then right?

  • whoes the one that does mma

  • @mrcod907 Toby Grear aka mr KNOCKOUT ^^

  • Its Not Which Martial Art Or Fighting Style Thats Better, It What Fighter That Is Better, It Does Not Matter What Art It Is As It The Fighter That Makes Things Happen Not The Moves

    My Opinion

  • @TeamGambitMagic Thats not an opinion thats a fact........

  • For those of you ppl that say they sucked stfu! Kuz i know your not even close to there level, you assholes dont know how it is to step in the ring or MMA cage so shut up, when i first starded MMA even in sparring it was hard and its wayy different to fight then to just watch someone and you suck, like wtf shut up if you think your so tuff steo in the ring or cage with a fighter not pro but amature but im pretty sure an amature could woop your guys ass

  • they both were terrible .......lmoa i mean really

  • That was not no pro boxer. He fuckin sucked

  • blonde guy looks like mayhem millers long lost cousin....

  • @roadrunnerblink man wtf i can swear he is mayham im gonna lose my mind he is like mayhams twin

  • That mma fighter and boxer suck . Mma fighter because hes swinging rapidly in a boxing match. The boxer is trained not to punch while he does that or thell both lose points. Boxer should have stooped down to his level n done the same thing.

  • @AuNaturalePaws kid? im 25. Secondly, i actually had amateur fights unlike you, or your grandma and her friends. Don't assume things. You make an ass outta ya self.

  • I could be wrong but that looks like like Dan Hardy in the corner for the MMA dude.

  • @AuNaturalePaws you haven't.

  • you can tell who the "fighter" is and who the boxer is, the fighter is throwing to end it, the boxer looks like a balet dancer throwing weak jabs and ducking scared

  • 6:00 "yo wssupp nigga,where ya at??"

  • dat asss

  • wow impressive the mma dude looked rlly good, u could tell he wanted to more techniques.

  • Nice counter!

  • @mma16 common man your talking about two different sports u know that jose Aldo would kick the shit out of Floyd but just standing you know Floyd has more skills with his hands

  • Internet jab is harder than tyson's jab yo

  • they both sucked. But which one was the mma guy?

  • @PhillyPugilist Compared to you, they both were actually good. Fucktard.

  • @TheTuqisboy how would you know dickhead? Your just a nerd behind a computer. i actually train had a gym and had fights in Muay Thai.

  • @PhillyPugilist I dont give a single fuck about your trainings, kid. I bet your fucking fat nerd who rages over internet and gets bullied at school. Served.

  • @TheTuqisboy served...umm nooo

  • @PhillyPugilist they could both batter you in a heartbeat dumb fuck

  • @TheFirstSanin so says the high school loser who looks like a skater

  • @PhillyPugilist oh sorry, that photo is uploaded three and a half years ago, no way you could have known. just dont be prideful about it and except that these men could rape you if they wanted.

  • @TheFirstSanin You must be speaking for yourself. Except you'd want them to rape you. Stick to skateboarding and playing hackie sack chump. Because everyone knows you can't rip a wet napkin.

  • @PhillyPugilist Jesus, your arrogant, lacking in wit, and have homosexual tendencies. i thought we ended this like three months ago. fuck.

  • @TheFirstSanin Go back to your skateboarding buddy and leave the fighter talk to the rest of us, thanks.

  • @cruel4byss you are a complete dumbass if you think a boxer can punch as hard as an mma fighter could kick. Especially an elite muay Thai striker like Jose Aldo. Set up a fight between Aldo and mayweather with mma rules. It would be a bad night for pretty bitch Floyd. We all know he's a bitch Dana white offered him millions to fight sherk and he wouldn't. Mma wins everytime

  • if there's one thing this match has taught me, keep your guard up, Toby is a crappy boxer, but that dont mean he doesn't have power, in the world of boxing one punch can make the difference..

  • Is this a joke?! Stephen Hawking is a better boxer than this guy, this guy f*cking sucks! Whomever he beat must have been terrible!

  • u are all idiots they both have good technique it seems to me especially compared to a lot of other low profile pro fights ive watched. not that im a pro fighter cuz im 14 but i do box

  • they are both shit

  • blonde guy is shit.

    

  • well u first get Amateur boxing (learning) then when u learn well i mean u choose ur career as boxing u will choose MMA, kick boxing or Pro  boxing..etc it just choose ur way i mean u get higher rank

  • shit,,, what the.!!!!! fuck,, those guy is claiming that he is a boxer ,.,, .,,how come;n

    he doesnt throw any punches,.,, ,,., what a boring,. fight he made boxing sport was no match when it come;s in mma. you better . quit,., in boxing,. you,. are not suitable in boxing,.,, shit,.,, go home,, drink some milk

  • World champion? Grear barely has a winning record in MMA. He is a joke

  • Boxers have a very strong upper strenght so they will punch as hard an,mma fighter will kick, and if the two of them would of figh with no rules mma fighter has a higher chance of winning tho dont think the boxer would let himself be grabbed or kicked, because he might kick and grab himself

  • Give respect for the MMA fighter trying out boxing where his odds are not very good. Not many boxers have had the balls to try out MMA except Toney and Mercer.

  • @BandakaKush that is not even an amateur boxer is not to tell someone you do not ever go right guard opponent if it is normal, embarrass boxing, I would like a match between Lesner and Vladimir Kliciko ... idiot

  • @bogdan19ify okay... I can't even understand you what are you even trying to say? Learn to write english before you try and talk shit on Youtube.

  • both fight pretty good, stfu and enjoy the fight lolol, its easy to comment and say shit, but when you in a real fight, you all pussies. LEarn this, the difference beteen a intelligent guy vs a wise guy, is the intelligent person only thinks and thinks, but not do anything, and the wise guy does action,, so stfu and be wise, lol, thats all

  • @Shadowx209 good comment God bless you.

  • Holy shit, are you guys all professional fighters? Wow, so many of you!!!!!

  • @dakota31898 It doesn't take a lot of expertise to spot what's wrong or could be improved about somebody else's technique or gameplan.

    It certainly doesn't take a lot of skill to spot the level of this fight, for instance anyone who's familiar with boxing gloves will see this is likely 12-14 oz, meaning it's an amateur fight, and not the A class amateur type either.

  • Really interesting how different their fighting habits are. You can see the MMA fighter stopping himself from throwing kicks a couple of times early on. Also, the bob & weave the boxer keeps doing in the 3rd minute would get you KO'd in a fight where knees and kicks were allowed.

  • ok boxers tht r good wont let a pussy mma fight close enuff to use their ground fighting or hold techniques sooo its a standing fight from the start and obviously a boxer with fuck up a mma bitch standing up

  • @powerfulboxer77 the mma fighter will be willing to eat some punches to clinch and press up against the cage, then takedown, then usually by then its all over. boxers arent some superhuman that no one can close in on, it may be difficult but can be done. just saying, no hating man.

  • @toolfan92- I box, and I agree.

  • @powerfulboxer77 boxing is included in MMA. mma stands for 'mixed martial arts', a combination of kickboxing, boxing, karate, and jiujitsu. of course an mma fighter would win.

  • wtf does SMH mean?!?!

  • 4:53 what a great ass... lol

  • I liked this fight. Good match.

  • Good fight, that.

  • Both of them sucked the black guy especially beacuse the withe dude used the fucking same trick over and over if it was me i would just wait for a hook and then just a uppercut or a straight one to the jaw

  • the black guy was a better boxer but the white guy was a good boxer aslo better then most mma guys

  • that fight woz shit i seen lil kids with more boxing skill than that they didnt fight like pros they thought like people who hard not done boxing 4 very long there woz so many mistakes from both boxers i would def say black boxer woz better when comes to boxing the white guy 1 by luck if u ask me his first woz just in the place at the right time and he just happen 2 hit just with the right amount of power 4 black dud i would ave 2 say he just stuck bad luck really lol

  • Crackin punch thats knocks him out

  • For everyone posting "their bad" you probably played some Boxing game and think you know it all. Takes something special to get in the ring and maybe these guys are still perfecting their "sweet science" So just keep commenting on your comfy computer desk how bad they are while they keep gettn better, haters

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  • LOL At You Fuckers Who Probably Never Trained A Day In Their Lives Commenting On Technique SMDH

  • @BlkChidori

    ha ha...just thinking that

  • @BlkChidori I'm fat. I ain't sayin shit ! Nuff said

  • @BlkChidori Do You Enjoy Capitalizing Every Word You Say?

  • @MrL33tnoob Not As Much As Fucking Your Mom But Pretty Close

  • @BlkChidori Well That's Damn Wonderful. I Bet My Mother Loved You

  • @BlkChidori Hey, That's The Essence Of Youtube-- Arguing With Total Idiots.

  • Even though the black guy had a 1-1 record, he had far better skills than white MMA guy. If it wasn't for luck, on the part of the white guy, I think the black guy would have won the fight.

  • this was the wackest low class fight i seen those jabs that white boy blocks push him back easy n black guy looked wack from the get go white boy cant fight for shit WIDE AS PUNCHES hes lucky he didnt fight a sharper guy that could shoot down the middle n hit him to the body where he was wide OPEN LIKE HIS MOMS LEGS

  • this was the wackest low class fight i seen those jabs that white boy blocks push him back easy n black guy looked wack from the get go

  • there is abundance of gay in ma

  • IF THIS WAS A MMA MATCH THE BOXER WOULDN'T MAKE IT OUT THE FIRST ROUND.

  • @BoricuaAltaHueso787

    if this was a street fight they'd both get stabbed to death

    so there

  • I prefer MMA to boxing these days (mostly) but if you want to talk about which is more fangerous just look at the stats. How many people have dide in the ring? How many fighters retire wiht serious head trauma caused by the sport? I would rather get knocked out by an MMA figther than a boxer far less chance of damage.

  • thats the problem, everytime an MMA fighter goes against a boxer it's only a club level type fighter.. The MMA fighters are "champion fighters" but the boxers are average..  Believe it when I say that a good WBC fighter would crush an MMA in standup. MMA fan boys need to quit kidding themselves.. the only reason they go to the ground is because they're scared of getting punched.. Striking is the most exciting type of fighting, a knockout is far better than a choke..

  • @takeuchitb007 Are you retarded? It's called Mixed Martial Arts for a reason. There have been fights where mma fighters would get picked up and REPEATEDLY SLAMMED on the canvas. Also it's not like boxing whereas once you get knocked down the referee stops counts to 10 NOPE, in MMA if you get knocked to the ground NO ONE is going to help you you're open to get KNOCKED OUT COLD on the ground lol. You boxing BITCHES think that fighters only wrestle NOPE you can get knocked out on the ground too

  • @The1Heart1 believe me, i'm far from retarded and i'm not a bitch... ive been around fighting for 20+ years, I've done my share and seen more than enough..

  • @takeuchitb007 And so that makes your accusation a fact? I think not. It's called mixed martial arts and because fighters take the fight to the ground automatically it's because they're scared? Only a retard would insinuate that.

  • @The1Heart1 why goto the ground when you can stand and strike? bottom line is this, striking is the MOST exciting style of fighting to watch.. if you've ever knocked anybody out before you'd agree.. why choke or armbar somebody when you can punch his jaw off?

  • @takeuchitb007 Obviously you don't know much about mma. If it's called MIXED MARTIAL ARTS then why should they be confined to ONE fighting technique? See this is what I mean when I ask you if you're retarded. If you knew anything about mma you'd know that fighters are allowed to punch and knee you while on the ground so it's not like their ONLY going for submission they can TKO you on the ground as well but OH NO you equate going to the ground to submissions. Idiot.

  • @The1Heart1

    Calm down honey, nobody is insulting your love of sweaty dickpunching.

  • @Ragedhard What man calls another man honey LOL fag. Go back to watching boxers hug while laying their heads on each others shoulders lol.

  • @takeuch who u trying to fool?? ur self dumb fuck. im going to explain it one more time to the one track minded people who still believe in what totl bull shit ur talking..there never been a top level boxer beating a top level mma fighter. tho u might try n come bk with the mercer tim sylvia fight even tho mercer got smashed by worst mma fighter ever kimbo slice and got fucked up in K1.JAMES TONY one of the best boxers ever got arse raped againt a 46 year old randy coutre in the ufc in one round

  • @takeuchitb007 so get ur facts straight. how u can truly believe that a world class puncher can role with a world class mu thai ju jitso wrestler rolled in to one is beyond me. take pac man and let him fight jose aldo a mma top level striker and see what happens. would be a fucking joke type his name in on you tube and see what i mean. and also when u refer to best pound for pound fighter on google guess what comes up? anderson silva aldo gsp, all top mma fighters. so ur wrong my dumb friend

  • This boxer does not know how to throw counter punches at all - he is not a good example of a professional boxer. I seen that hook a mile away and this guy did not get out of the way, also his footwork was not that great.

  • FUCK MMA ASs grabbing bitches! they fight like girls boxing all the way fuck mma!

  • @xlilnetx Is that why mma pros beat boxers all the time. And it's not ass grabbin it's called ju-juitsu, it's the most effective form of martial arts there is in the world.

  • @Thebuttsinferno

    Yeah, they beat boxer but not prime well respected boxers. So if you watch boxing you know that a prime  boxer always beat a old worn out boxer. I never onces in my life seen a mma fighter beat a prime boxer.

    So basically all your MMA heros only beat up boxers that are bums and half the time the MMA fighters loses because he gets knockout.

  • @xlilnetx Put the best boxer in the world again the best mma fighter in their respective weight classes and the boxer will be tappin before he can throw his first punch

  • @Thebuttsinferno exactly, more diverse styles you study, the better fighter you are

  • put that "world champion MMA fighter" up against a real WBC middleweight, then see what happens.. Even a wbc lightweight would bomb him into next week... MMA guys just don't get it..

  • @takeuchitb007 Actually in a proper mma fight that boxer would get taken down and pounded in the face till his ass tapped

  • @takeuchitb007 boxer would try to choose an mma can instead of fighting the best like most boxers do.

  • @ageeeeeeeeee James Toney's first MMa opponent? Kimbo Slices first boxing opponent? Check each guy out and see how they compare. :)

  • @illmitchjax no one in boxing top wants to fight kimbo remember they scared

  • @ageeeeeeeeee is that why he is fighting a 40 year old novice with only one KO loss to his name? If he fights a boxer better than that he'll get exposed worse than he did in the UFC.

  • @illmitchjax that is because the boxer fought nobodies and kimbo is another nobody the boxer he is fighting

  • if someone ever spun against me in a boxing match.... id knee him in the balls and tell him to go back to mmgay and roll around on the ground with his bf in a cage

  • @BombShellBryant25 hahaha mmgay? how original typical Coxing fan.

  • THE BROTHER WAS GREEN AT BEST , MUST GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE I THOUGHT WHITE DUDE WAS A BIT WILD BOTTOM LINE HE GOT THE JOB DONE FOR ALL YOU TOUGH GUY'S OUT THERE. AT LEAST THEY HAD THE BALLS TO STEP INTO THE RING AND THAT ALONE DEMANDS RESPECT. WHAT KIND OF MAN SIT'S BEHIND A COMPUTER SCREEN AND TYPES SHIT THATS NO MAN AT ALL THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL A COWARD. A REAL MAN HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, SAY IT TO THE PERSONS FACE. LET IT BE A LEARNING LESSON.

  • boxers would no way beat atop level mma striker like anderson silva, overeem, jose aldo, bj penn, machida,dos santos, etc. i watched the haye klitchko fight what a joke. boxing now days is jab point scoring. tipe alistar overeem new 2010 mp4 highlights in. and try telling me a boxer would handle him hes a strikeforce mma world champ and the k1 kickboxing world champ as well as dream heavyweight champ.

  • @TheKDBist after reading your comment i had a good think for about 10 minutes and i have come to my conclusion: that was definately the stupidest comment i have ever read on youtube and it was actually painful to read... i wanted to let it go but i just couldnt but i wont argue why unless you reply.

  • @aksaboutm3 hahaha NO!!! listen FOR THE DUMB PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT BOXING IS AND WHAT MMA IS. boxing hands defence punch jab punch jab punch.... do i really need to go on??? look i no ur super retarded and that ur dad used to false him self on u and ur anus every night where u was so anti boxing but chill hes in prison now. so u can stop pretending that boxers are the best. TOP MMA guy can punch elbow knee kick submit wrestle greko wrestle.

  • @aksaboutm3 plus u really gotta face the facts. the one of ur most accomplished boxers of boxing history yeah that one the one freddy roach said is the best boxing talent hes ever seen. JAMES TONY who might i add just got fucking arse raped by randy coture in his first mma fight. coture who is 45 and just retired from the ufc LooooooooooooooooooooLLLLLLLL. so write what u want. but i have the facts right here on you tube u DONT. so every thing u say is joke and aint been proven hahahahahahahahah

  • @TheKDBist Tim Sylvia lost to ray mercer via KO after like 10 seconds and anderson silva (best mma striker) has a pro boxing record of 1 win and 1 loss (both by KO) and they were both against nobodies at all... and he got knocked out. There are facts against your argument as well mate

  • @TheRozza333 for real ur right tim sylvia did get smashed but ive never rated him. his only skills are is stand up what aint that gd really. dont forget ray mercer go kod by kimbo slice who is one of the worst mma fighters ever and mercer also lost to remey bonjasky in the fist ten secs due to quiting via head kick. as for anderson silva get kod in a boxing match ive searched every where for this and never found it any where. todays anderson silva is the pound for pound best fighter ever bro.

  • @TheKDBist to see silva's record put in on google 'anderson silva boxrec' and its one of the first ones. Its on wikipedia to. Ye Tim Sylvia aint amazing but he was the champ at one point so that has to count for something. Im not one of those stupid boxing fans who says a boxer will beat an mma fighter in a cage cuz i know as soon as the boxers legs get kicked out or he is taken down its over. PS. Toney had his pro mma debut against an all time great so of course he was gonna lose

  • @TheKDBist i highly doubt Freddie Roach will stick by his words today even if he really did say that before. James Toney WAS not too bad, RJJ killed him but i guess the guy HAD skills. Then he became way too old and retired for a few centuries before he had an mma fight against an mma fighter which he lost... that means mma is better how? all i know is the fans of mma have the lowest IQ of fans from any sport and thats a pretty big call considering Nascar.

  • None of them were good boxers, the black guy was a much well rounded boxer but no real talent and a glass jaw, i knew that from the start as soon as i saw how scared he was of lettin his hands go. The faggot lookin blonde guy had some good power nice left hook and a good straight as we saw, but he was a shit boxer i saw a mistake like every 10 seconds which a PROPER boxer wouldve stepped up on and the fight go the other way.

  • @aksaboutm3

    but if this was an mma match

    he would have been dominated no matter what

  • @aksaboutm3 watching the blonde dude jumping in hands down chin up the whole time made me cringe

  • @aksaboutm3 U SEEM like a top pro boxing coach hahahahha LOL

  • @aksaboutm3

    That "faggot white guy" would kick the SHIT out of you, i dont care who you think you are.

    YOU didnt even manage to get your way into that ring, so i dont know who you think you're blabbling at, cus he wasn't even kicking. Even with punches only, he was extremely good, and he moved like lightening, to avoid some of the black guy's punches.

    And he ISNT a "proper" boxer, you idiot - he's not claiming to be !

    He's wearing MUAY THAI shorts, you likke raaaas claaart !!

  • @AnnoyingTypoSyndrome can u please point out in my comment and quote me in the parts where i said i would beat him, or the part where i said he was a proper boxer?? until then ur comment is completely pointless rambling about nothing.

  • @aksaboutm3:

    DUURRR - your LAST SENTENCE, perhaps ?

    """" but he was a shit boxer i saw a mistake like every 10 seconds which a PROPER boxer wouldve stepped up on and the fight go the other way."""

    You are suggesting he's not a proper boxer (even though he BATTERS the black proper boxer). And he doesnt claim to be a boxer - he's a MUAY THAI, and he BATTERS black boxers, for fun !!

    DUUURRR

  • @AnnoyingTypoSyndrome No he is not a proper boxer, that wat i said... you were arguing against that point not for it?? and i never said the black boxer was a proper boxer either... the mix up was that when i said proper i meant a good boxer with a name (Vic Darchinyan level atleast). Your arguments still pointless invalid bs, so please stop.

  • @aksaboutm3:

    Right, thats it !

    If you dont shut up, im not gonna stuff my cock in oyur moms face hole, again, and she will hate you forever.

    She knows you didnt make yourself clear (or are lying, to cover up for your stupidity), and she's not not happy - she says "shut up, you idiot, or i wont get any more dick".

    What's that ?

    Oh, she says "oooooooh, dont stop, just for that little idiot, he was a mistake, and now he's makin mistakes - nothing unusual there".

    Umph Umph !!

  • @AnnoyingTypoSyndrome ur mom jokes, are you 12 years old? do u really think that offends me? lol... just shows the i.q of the person im arguing with. I never changed my argument and dont blame me for the way i typed it, it was you who misread it so stfu, and i nice attempt at distractin me from ur argument by usin "ur mom" bs... i reccomend u stop commenting until ur i.q is in the double digits

  • @aksaboutm3

    Hey, if im stupid, then HOW stupid are YOU, for arguing with me ?

    To be honest, i dont even bother replying to you unless ive had a shit, and a few farts, and run out of anything amuzing to do.

    Any references to your mohter, are just out of boredom, if her bastard son hasn't managed to bring up anything more interesting than his last meal.

    I mean, sriously, WHY do you (in your words) argue with people on you tube, about your won illteracy ?

    FAAAART !

  • @AnnoyingTypoSyndrome tl;dr, dont bother replying

  • @aksaboutm3

    sck yr mthr !

  • Black guy had superior skills, but white guy still managed to land a hay-maker punch thrown from his knee. The white guy was lucky!

  • Putting mma gloves on tyson would be murder.

  • The MMA guy has a better stance than this guy. He is a disgrace to boxing. No foot work, bobing and weaving skills, nor does he have good hand skills.

  • put this boxer in the mma cage and he is death!!

  • @TheNachosv Real fights don't go down in cages.

  • all these stupid arguments about mma vs boxing. really its completely stupid because its all irrelevant. boxing and mma are way different and co-exist. first thing i thought when watching this is when the fuck was this guy an mma world champion?

  • Boxer has a mma hair cut lmao

  • uve got to be jokin me this boxer is shit he didnt even try to attack the MMA fighter he was trying to counter punch and fuckd it up, put mike tyson in that ring wid the MMA fighter or Money mayeweather or Manny paqiou and see what happpens to the MMA fighter

  • @DanthanIndustries19 What about Muhammed ali?!

  • mma is a bit boring, boxing is art..

  • @TheLorie71 I agree. Unless its Mayweather fighting. When hes in the ring it its REALLY Boring!

  • Both are fighting like an amateur boxers.

  • The boxer wasnt even attacking? He only threw some jabs.

    The MMA "Champion" has a damn bad technique

  • Gotta love how the "former world champ" can't even throw a good jab or cross lmao

  • @Wongprom94 haha thats why he a former world champ of tough man

  • Wtf is this you Call this Pro boxing !! ?

  • boxers are very skillful since their striking attacks are better than an mma fighter

  • World Champion? The guy is like 6-4-1 or something like that. He's lost nearly 40% of his fights. That is not a champion by any means. Why this guy is so revered is beyond me. He's aggressive yes but not in the least bit amazing or phenomenal when it comes to mma.

  • Boxing is useless in a realistic fight. Hey! wanna fight me? Please no kicking, elbowing, tackling me, slamming me, twisting my arm or anything else okay??! Were going to put on softer gloves okay??? Only punching! (Yes , boxing gloves has a lot more cushion then a MMA glove that is why boxers don't get knocked out that easy. It's not because they have a better chin)

  • @H1mynameisLarry Actually, in a street fight, boxing is very useful. Although their sport isn't as rough as MMA, boxers are still very good fighters. I guarantee you that a boxer could take some random Joe in a streetfight. The other guy would be knocked out before they could get to him.

  • @TreeFiddehSeven A boxer has never tasted a kick in the face. A boxer has never been slammed on his back or side that knocks his breath completely out. A boxer has never tasted an elbow. A boxer has never felt what it feels like to be choked out. U really think punching only will succeed in a street fight? Only an idiot will just punch in a st fight. Most street fights end up on the floor and u know it. What i'm saying is MMA fighter has a higher chance to succeed in a st vs avg Joe vs boxing.

  • @H1mynameisLarry Yes, I agree. An MMA fighter would do better in a street fight than a boxer. But, what I'm saying is that a professional boxer could take any average Joe in a street fighting. And MMA fighters are better in well rounded fighting, but boxing is a different thing and they are skillful at what they do. Randy Couture proved that an MMA man could take a boxer.

  • @TreeFiddehSeven I think that's one of the biggest mistakes people make. IMO on a flat pavement Fedor will kick Tyson's ass, but in a forest or something, or a crowded bus stop, Tyson will kick Fedor's ass. People are forgetting that boxing evolved from free fights in Greece and Rome which didn't have mats and cages/rings, they wre fought anywhere. Boxing is the best discipline for no rules because you can never lose your balance like for example a karateka could. Ray Mercer beat Tim Sylvia btw

  • @H1mynameisLarry Dude look at my post to TreeFiddehSeven. Boxing was proven to be the most effective free fight discipline ON AVERAGE over the course of 6000 years. Take a look at successful armies like the Romans, Greeks, German Empire, US Army, etc. All of these armies teach boxing. Sure GSP would own any boxer his size in a cage which is flat, has rules and a ref, but do you think he could pull off a kimura on a staircase covered in sharp objects and dead bodies? I don't think so.

  • @DestroyerAlexandros Sir, boxing is only successful if there are rules. You take rules away and make it a more realistic fight.. a boxer is useless. Army don't try boxing so much anymore.. its more MMA style grappling. I know that for a fact. You are putting crazy situations. GSP can punch pretty good too but I am talking about for a legit fight and not crazy situations. I can whoop Mike Tyson with a gun.. whoopy do.

  • @H1mynameisLarry Bro once upon a time in ancient Greece there was a thing called pancration. Free fighting, no rules except no eye gouging and no biting and low blows. And people through millions and millions of fights (not just a PPV event) derived that boxing is the best form of fighting in a situation without rules. That's why they isolated it and developed it under rules. In a legit fight where there's no mat or fence every kick you throw you risk losing your balance and every takedown you

  • @H1mynameisLarry shoot you risk being elbowed to the back of the head (completely illegal shot in all sports due to its lethality). The US army has been doing BJJ for what? 5 years? That doesn't make it battle proven. Boxing is battle proven as I stated it's been the main discipline in the most successful armies in history.

  • @DestroyerAlexandros Bro, U.S has never been in a real war. Every "War" it's been in all involved guns. Boxing hasn't even helped in war because I doubt anyone would just stand there and punch with you. They are training BJJ because as time passes, people are getting more sophisticated and using everything their body can achieve. Back then, we didn't know as much so all we did was shoot guns and box. As humans develop, we have to adapt..

  • @H1mynameisLarry Mate people haven't changed much over the last 40 years trust me. Fighting is one of the most complex yet one of the most natural things. Before I knew anything about grappling I had been doing guillotines, read nakeds and armbars for years and wasn't surprised when I found out that stuff had been studied and given names. Anyway, I don't think BJJ or any other martial art for that matter is as developed and as effective as boxing simply because boxing has been done for thousands

  • @DestroyerAlexandros True but before I have watched or knew boxing had a name, I knew to punch. All I would like to say is boxing on it's own is useless. You need to know it all to suvive in the real world if you are ever faced in a fighting situation. Most TOP UFC fighters are boxers but know it all. Rampage, GSP, Silva etc etc you cannot just know ONE aspect of fighting and think you are the shit (Boxing). Again, boxing is good but useless on it's own.

  • @H1mynameisLarry That's true but boxing is a combination of punching plus the footwork, body and head movement, even state of relaxation. For example GSP - he's got the technique down, he's got the physique down yet he can't knock out a terrible striker after mauling him for 25 mins. It's not because he lacks the strength, it's because he's too stiff to achieve enough acceleration with his hands. He's got the punching down but he hasn't got the boxing down see what I mean? I also think it's got

  • @H1mynameisLarry a lot to do with your nature. This might sound stupid but some people are just born with punching power and some aren't. As much as GSP drills boxing technique with Freddie he'll never punch like, say, a shorter and lighter Maidana. Boxing is much more complicated than just making a person's face hit your hand and I've grown to appreciate that I hope you will too.

  • @DestroyerAlexandros GSP is pussy to fight everyone knows that boxing is all punching head and body

  • @ageeeeeeeeee GSP is a pussy but he wins. BTW the new term in MMA when somebody is playing defensively and not taking any risks and fighting for a unanimous decision people go "He's pulling a GSP" :D

  • @DestroyerAlexandros I prefer pulling a fitch he isnt fighting he can go fitch himself

  • @H1mynameisLarry of years there's been a whole "troubleshooting" process. IMO BJJ isn't nearly as fail proof - for example the guard which BJJ is based on is almost inaplicable in a real fight situation because the chances of you being able to lay down on something flat and the opponent not landing a kick in your groin are pretty minimal. Think of it this way - a guy that has never in his life trained martial arts would be doing chokes and holds to his little brother because he wouldn't want to

  • @H1mynameisLarry hurt him. If he wanted to hurt someone he'd most likely be hitting him in the head. Of course combat involves firearms but you should never underestimate the abilities of the body in preventing lethal situations. I wouldn't like to go in details about my lifestyle but lets just say I lead a pretty hazardous one (I don't lead a life of crime I'm just constantly pushing myself) and as time passed I realized that as handy as fireams and cold weapons are, the single biggest weapon

  • @H1mynameisLarry is the mind and the body. That's why I'd rather have a battle proven art in my hands (boxing) than a very organic and effective, albeit battle untested art (BJJ)