and you miss the entire point, its this kind of rhetoric, and the consistent antijew rhetoric from folks like you, that keep dividing people. to be honest, if this kind of alarmist horseshit contnues it wont be good for anyone. get out of your air conditioned comfort and go see the world, you may not whine so much.
lol. wow now there is a conpsiracy. its a bit antiquated to think the world is on a left right paradign and one side must be right about everything. why even bother? why not just give into a dear leader? balance in life is much better that choosing conflict. you sound like george bush and his silly "with us or against us" shit. you have an axis of evil too?
Now you are an example of a class a moron. My video defended kennedy record. My video said he did more for civil rights than his brothers. As for a rich guy giving out money that's hardly among the impressive things about the man. Next time watch the video b4 you comment with inane statemnts. Seriously mind numbing
Name me one walthyy person who doesn't give money away. Its called a tax shelter. An educated person woulndt have claimed I did something id didn't do. Ted kennedy got away with murder. Even his advocated admit that. I defended his record and you claimed I did not...that is educated? Hardly.
This is some of the silliest shit I've ever read. If it were a setup...why was none of that mentioned in his case? My opinions are based in facts. Yours are based in paranoid conspiracies. Big difference.
There really aren't. By his own admission ted left the scene of the accident and waited til morning to call emergency services. Its fuuny. Although I never said a word about a curse you tried to lay that on me. Typical conspiracist straw man tactic. Then with no evidence whatsoever claimed it to be a set up. Even if it were...he was driving drunk by his own admission and did nothing to save her. That called manslaughter
There really aren't. By his own admission ted left the scene of the accident and waited til morning to call emergency services. Its fuuny. Although I never said a word about a curse you tried to lay that on me. Typical conspiracist straw man tactic. Then with no evidence whatsoever claimed it to be a set up. Even if it were...he was driving drunk by his own admission and did nothing to save her. That called manslaughter
The thing about satire is that it requires a high level of skill to pull off. Fleetwood's efforts are ham-handed and he winds up making himself look as foolish as his adversaries. He doesn't compare to Twain, Swift, Heller... even Stephen Colbert. It's all part of the dumbing down of culture, and I am afraid YouTube has become as big a cesspool as tv.
the comparison to tv is not true. freewill is nonexistant with tv. the culprit is education, taken over by the state so long ago.
davis' shock technique is well thought out, imho. it's not for you, but just because you don't get or even see it (the layers upon layers of satire), doesn't mean he's a fool, or that it's not of value.
perhaps you are making a lot of effort to defend a guy who puts out trash once a day. there is no real though put into a daily production of one. its off the cuff regurgitation of things he has already heard or seen. to be honest, i've seen nothing original from him. just his take on things already done.
Hmmmm... FantasticBabblings, you always have something worth saying. I've sat through your longest vlogs satisfied that I was not wasting my time.... and maybe even every Davis Fleetwood video is not a work of art, you have to admit that it is heads above 90% of the crap on YT. Easily.
Personally I'm impressed with this substance and with his dedication. He's determined to put out at least one video a day. That's tough! And hopefully the daily grind will help him improve his videos.
you are missing the point vic. part of the problem is dealing with these very important issues in a lackluster silly manner that does nothing but spawn more divisiveness. you like drama, but there is a time and place for it. you seem to think it has its place in policy making. i simply do not.
Divisive? Sure he pokes the right. But he also pokes the right. Not like he's just buying one side's bullshit. Which YOU often do as well. Yet, I don't call you divisive.
"you are missing the point" Am I?
Ask yourself, what is the point of his videos?
He hopes to get him a job in show business -- eventually. That's something that other people will decide.
i dont call people terrorists, vic. thats the point. i got no problem going after both sides. i just dont think we should do it using there silly methods.
If u don't see the difference between calling someone a muderder or a douchebag...well...your lost. And no. Fleetwoods videos are attention seeking shit. Seriously. There is no discussion going on over there. It just folks taking turns calling each other muirderer and nazi
i made no such comparison. rather, pointed out that your calls for more discussion whilst you attempt to slander are hypocritical. its the principal.
attention seeking, no shit. so is mass media and your wonderful "gov't." but his other channel is actually quite educational. have u watched any of "thisdayinamerica?"
I was speaking to davis making the comparison not you. And his thisdayinamerica from what I've seen is horseshit. He vilifies role models like cal ripken simply for the sake of seeimg counterculture. We have calendars that do a better job of giving this day in history. Show me where I slandered anyone. I simply stated that making such comparisons are silly. How is that slander?
Well if calling his selfadmiited satire silly (which means subjectively davis agrees with me) subjective is like saying calling obama a nazi subjective. If you don't see people objecting to policy being called terrorists as silly, objectively. Well you would have to make that case. The point of his videos? The same point folks calling obama hitler...they think that making such wild claims will make folks think. Its old tired mind games
You think its unique, original or even intellectual? Seriouisly? Why not defend skehan because he made idiots "think" vic. Fleetwood is hardly talented enough to be in show business. He is not really funny and his audience is too.
We could cut a third, or a fourth, out of our defense budge and pay for universal health care. It's a shame that if my husband wasn't in the military we would have a very hard time affording health care.
This country pours more into a defense budget that just gets wasted. Take this for example, Robert had to get certified to drive an MRAP while he was in Iraq. It is the WORST truck the Army has ever produced. The straps that are suppose to hold the soldiers instead don't fit around their gear. It causes them to die when hitting an IED. They're more likely to survive in a Humvee. Meanwhile MRAPs cost between 600k~1mill EACH. :( Waste.Waste.Waste.
Yeah, like a heathen has the moral authority to judge anyone.....lol....he should have stayed busy worshipping a cow.....or any one of the other million gods they made up......lol
You know Tim, I've been thinking. What we have here is a failure to communicate. Let me back off a touch to get even more into view. This conglomeration plan is the main play, but not the only play. You cite failure in their plan, a failing EU for example, nothing is perfect, I am laying it out as it is to be run. Their plan can fail, these people have contingencies though. They will use a bugbear to actually touch off WW3 for example and pick up the peices afterwards.
These Nefarious creatures have been deeply rooted in our "Industrial Military Complex" since before I was born. They have Generals and black op armies in secret installations. They have bunkers to hide in when all has failed and the people need to be nuked, all paid for by us to protect our needed public servants. This is why I say we can't win. I could give us a plan to victory, but they have the last card to play. There's nothing I can do for us, I was born too late. WW2 was the turning point
What type of person could do these things? Some are evil and enjoy it, while others see the masses as breeding out of control and thoughtless polluters, etc and for the good of the planet we must be culled. Much like hunters need to kill deer every season to make sure the other deer have enough to eat. They think they are stewards of the planet and will save it by any means. Even mass murder, just like we were deer. As soon as WMDs came about, and they were mass produced, we lost all hope.
I actually believe that the Nazis and the Soviets for example were created by these people. They fund revolutions so they can grab control of that country. Russia is a prime example. The commies take over and they have a nice bugbear to use for close to a century. Then they need opposition to it, let's gets some Nazis, that's the ticket. They'll sacrifice the Nazis to pin blame for WW2 and proceed to scare us with the red threat to build up a black world they control and we pay for. $800 hammers
idea for next video: How it's gotten so crazy that the president of the united states can't tell little kids to study hard in school because goof balls fear the "secret indoctrination of liberal policies".....just an idea...
I have some issues w/ Davis too but he didn't make up that number. While this doesn't necessarily prove it true, Peter Singer cited studies in an article he wrote on the healthcare issue that appeared in the NY Times Magazine:
"Estimates of the number of U.S. deaths caused annually by the absence of universal health insurance go as high as 20,000. One study concluded that in the age group 55 to 64 alone, more than 13,000 extra deaths a year may be attributed to the lack of insurance coverage."
i never claimed HE made up that number, i simply stated its unprovable. its is unprovable. its like saying "the fact hospitals dont give free heatlh care caused 50,000 death" and? a premise starting out as a hypotheitcal is not a premise. its an unprovable statement. name one coroners report that put cause of death as "no insurance"
I don't know the nature of the studies that have been cited but I wouldn't necessarily say it's unprovable. I think researchers could conceivably come up w/ a means of acquiring a reasonable figure based on certain criteria. There would probably be a large margin of error but I think you could theoretically reach a figure that you could say "at least X amount of people died from preventable causes specifically because they chose not to see a doctor sooner due to the costs or something like that
not really. cause of death is conjecture even when speaking in absolute terms. if there is a large margin of error, its not science, its conjecture. preventable is relative. life and death are both complex cause and effect chains. to simplify it is to bastardize reality for an agenda.
There is a peace monster at the end of this video...
thanks for the info on Ted Kennedy I hadn't looked it up but I wondered if he was worthy of burial at the Arlington natl cemetery. I am sure his deceased neighbors don't mind...
"because there is a god" that works with 90% of people around here...
Couldn't the same be said of folks calling obama hitler? And if irony was his purpose...doesn't it seem odd he would cite statistics to make a point? So far he has claimed to be satirical, using hyperbole and ironic. What's the point of misuse of literary mechanisms to make a really dumb point...that is...not giving folks healthcare as being "criminal". I mean.why have ambition at all?
Still not having seen the guy's videos, all I can say is it sounds like maybe the "it's satire" line is just a fall-back excuse when the heat gets to be too much.
But this is just a guess, of course.
Ps. When I first started hearing about "birthers" I thought midwives had made the news...!
Davis was using hyperbole to prove a very valid point - that being that it's almost criminal that we've allowed ourselves to have shitty healthcare for over 70 years.
Oh wait...I forgot. You've demonstrated numerous times in the past that you don't understand the concept of hyperbole.
Wow. You really think that calling anyone questioning the method in which we administer healthcare is criminal? You really think that is valid? I know your completely leftist tendencioes make you feel that incedniary and coersive tactics to get ones way are valid, but I had no idea you justify calling them terrorists. I grasp the idea. I just disagree with the tactic. Your justifcation of that tactic could also be used to justifying calling obama a nazi. Interesting
dear bat you know proteanview likes blonde white men. how do you feel knowing that coloured homosexuals masturbate to your videos? BLOCK HIM. you KNOW how negroes crave blondes. don't act like you don't baby.
but yeah good video. i agree alot. torture is bad and we need health.
all i am saying is that when a person does something like killing another person, then whatever he or she does in his or her life from that point on should not be praised unless that person is held accountable for the death before the future act. So if a man raped your child and got away with it and then cured cancer you would praise him on the day of his death? I think not. The Presidency should be a dictatorship. He controls the nuclear button and nearly every aspect of our lives.
well that is a judgement call. i certainly stated in my video he got away with negligent manslaughter, but to say one can't redeem themselves is just odd to me. do i expect that womans family to praise him? no. but i am not that womans family. the presidency as defined by the constitution is not a dictatorship, and thank god you're wrong now, huh? why bother with democracy at all?
republic? yes. democracy? no! we elect a leader--one who runs the country like a president of a corporation. we elect him to lead, not serve. we are going up against people and countries that do not have our interests at heart. our President is our king but he cannot take from us certain things like religion or free speech, but as commander in chief--hell yes, go to war. But the Congress can say no to funding that war long term.
I totally agree. He should have been held accountable years ago. You can ignore it all you want, but the girl is dead as dead can be. She had no chance to do good things.
Ted was a joke. He rode the wave of Camelot throughout his entire career. He was the loser brother who was able to make good because of the Kennedy name. If a person killed your wife and yet got off of the charge because of his name, you would care less about his accomplishments even if he cured cancer. Edward did vehicular manslaughter. The average jail time was 6 years back then and 10 years now. Some of us cannot get of that no matter what he did later.
nah, Bush was President and the President should have absolute power (in my opinion) to run the country as he sees fit. there is no other way. so for a future administration to question a past one is just foolish. Teddy was an ass, and yes, literally he was an ass to me, so maybe its just a personal thing. He smelled like Jim Beam half the time.
but not declare war. that takes an act of congress. never happened. the presidency is not a four year dictatorship. kennedy did like to drink, but i understand tanqueray was his poison. regardless, by your logic, we should ignore anyones accomplishments that were negligently responsible for wives deaths. that includes every war president, no?
i don't recall mark twain making satiric remarks about mass murder...and to compare yourself to mark twain is simply putting yourself on a perch you don't belong on. lol. and you quoted your bible, the huffington post, that is your source of your silly premise. you see, satire has some basis in truth in it, your video, well, didn't. but keep fancying yourself a modern day mark twain, somebody might actually be dumb enough to believe it. dig deep, rethink what you find funny.
that said, mark twisn used a pen name for innocuous reasons, even if folks like you would like to revise history, it was common knowledge that sam clemens was thomas snobgrass, mark twain, and Sieur Louis de Conte. this was no secret. pop quiz: who is dumb enough to really believe you have even an ounce of talent twain did? answer:noone
Actually I think DavisFleetwood is very talented. So that's one. I can't vouch for his 8 miilion views and his 10,000 subscribers. And isn't claiming he has no talent a bit unprovable? Kind of like Fleetwood's unprovable statement that lack health care causes 20,000 plus deaths a year. I'm betting you're right, Tim. It is hard to impossible to prove, but you can't deny it must be behind a large number of deaths. How many would you be willing to accept as provable? Or acceptable?
How about this. SOMETHING causes 2,000,000 people in Africa to die from AIDS every year. (Various online sources out there. You can do your own research.) What shall we blame? Ignorance? Greed? The pharmaceutical companies? Superstition? Education?
I actually liked this video, but I think you're focusing on a minor point. The point is universal health care will save lives. Disagree?
no, universal healthcare will mean millions more people with serious illnesses will die. There will be rationing and inferior care. Fight government-run healthcare, NOW!
Coroner reports do cause od death all the time. Find me one that has lack of healthcare as the cause of death. I didn't say he didn't have talent and views and such mean little...aka sxephil...he was comparing himself to twain. You don't think that's a bit boastful viccy?
if you had a brain inside your socialist head, you'd start using it to think that maybe genetics is a component of the equation....? why are the life spans not as long in other countries with universal health care? you socialists have weak minds....
i was not referring to YOU as a liberal...i was referring to the other person to whom you referred....hopefully you're a revolutionist for capitalism and democracy, otherwise you're no good....
Hi there. Why you got to be like that? All insulting and sh....Diid I insult you? Perhaps you were defensive and insulted by my arguments? I think you insist on labeling me a socialist and a liberal because it gives you a false sense of control over the situation. You think that because you have successfully categorized me as something you may now dismiss my rational argument.
I now that I have indirectly insulted your obvious lack of confidence and introspection enough.
Please explain how genetically different Japanese are from Chinese or Koreans?
Lastly please explain how Canada, Australia and Japan are are genetically related? They all have populations with extremely long life spans and the all have universal health care.
vic, you have to show where there is causation. anglo americans have the same lifespnas as anglo canadians and anglo UKers. anemia is a huge difference between han and japanese. there are many genetic differences when it comes to alcohol resistance as well. that said, lifestyle and culture plays a role in lifespan as well. my point is, they aren't genetically related, so therefore, you can't make comparisons in lifespans.
I know a lot of people who work in the medical field -- as doctors, nurses, and psychiatrists. They all tell me the same thing. Yes, their salaries would go down (something I bet is one reason most people are against it -- indirectly influenced by lobbyists) and there would be some problems with universal health care, HOWEVER in the long wrong more people would be helped.
It works GREAT in Japan except for when somebody needs new procedures or something that has not yet been deemed normal by society -- like organ transplants.
Yes, they do pay for limited types of acupuncture and certain certified shiatsu therapists and other treatments that I doubt most Western insurance companies would not consider. Good point.
well a lot of folks make their living on the system as it is, and they will make less. in the long term, you are probably right, but is it societies job? i think that the question folks are asking themselves right now.
It's all fine and dandy. Just words. In Japan the Liberal Democratic Party is actually conservative. Like I said, it's just your way of telling yourself you're in control of something and someone you don't understand. You'd have to watch me to get to know me. You, however, made it very easy to see what kind of person you are. A mouthbreathing asshole -- interested more in flaming than discussing. Enjoy your life.
i can tell you're just used to people tickling your ears. I'll tell you you're a Leftist, socialist, and borderline commie. Obama is one fat piece of crap? Agree?
@gimmeabreakman i didn't know you were into chiseled face blondes too? put the grease away and stop stroking your mexican taquito to battim baby. SIN! .....but good comment though. thanks
As for saving lives...well...I think we are all living too long as it is vic. Honestly. Japan and america are good examples of how lifespanAs for. Rising is bankrupting us. I say spend moeny on the next generation. Not the last.
you need to be one of those people that edits the ramblings out of your videos. Sure it hurts continuity... but then i would actually listen to your video. You seem rational enough, probably had some good points... but ill never know.
As usual you've hit the nail on the head. Though the Kennedy's were not angels in their personal lives I have great respect for their public service. I commented on RevolutionOfCG's video when he first posted it to at least let his body cool down...the video came out about 6 hours after his death.
I subscribe to RevolutionOfCG...it has always amazed me that his video comments almost always agree with him...I wonder how that happens! He's a true champion of democracy and free speech...NOT!!!
be blocks those who disagrees and employs friends like googleslave with tons of sock accounts. its pretty simple. he also freezes comments afyer a certain point because the sokcs cant keep up with the backlog.
Politics is war without guns. Clearly the right has taken this to heart. To Ted's benefit, he really did continue the civil rights movement. CG thinks he has can have some moral highground by hiding behind dead troops while he attacks another dead man. Scum. I want him and Davis Fleetwood to fight to the death. Winner gets a firing squad.
perhaps a toilet is more aprepos?, with enough shit mayB americans will wake up to the stench their government has become, and actually do something about it, like flushing out the real culprits.
the vid is simply a play on the "you're either with us" manure eaten up and paid for b so many law abiding robot zombie slaves. that is the target audience fantasticB.
fleetwood has no target audience except those who follow him. he is simply playin into their hands, playing the same games as the opposite end. phil, FB, that is, makes valid points. His point, like mine before it is simple, either be part of a discussion of you are no different than those you seem to assail against.
I'm unfortunately used to the gross exaggerations found on YouTube, but how can you make the slightest credible argument that Kennedy was a communist, of all things?
I have to admit I've never heard that argument before: participation in the proscribed due process of our Constitutional democracy/republic being grounds to convict an American representative of communism or Marxism.
I think you're pulling my leg. I hope so, at least.
MsWmson, you asked my why I thought he was a communist....i told you....his voting record.....one does not merely become a communist by merely having participated in a process...and you know that....but typical liberal misrepresentation of facts.....:)
I'm not going to waste my time with you in going to pull the bill numbers...lol...but Kennedy was one of the most Left-leaning in the Senate...he was in favor of heavy government intervention at every turn....whether it was regulating minimum wage, universal healthcare...he was definitely a socialist...arguably a communist... go do your homework....
well you made the statement he is a communist, so the burden of proof is on you. his rheotric was left, his voting record was a lot of time very centrist. that said, nothing you say in anyway assumes marxism. its these kind of silly strawmanisms that make me realize americans have no idea what marxism or socialism truly is.
I'll be damned--did you just imply I'm a liberal? If so, you have no idea how far afield that is. I don't belong to any party, in deed or in thought.
But I know how easily misunderstandings can cement in YT, so I'll be clear: it seems incredible to me that you accused TK of being a communist, because it's news to me, and unlike nearly every idjit online anymore, I don't claim to know everything, so I was asking for a clarification. I grew up a boy in the '50s, amid the dreaded "Red Peril" BS.
yes it would seem centrists are getting turned off by the notion that his reform is a stepping stone to a more universal type of program. certainly doesn't help that was his rhetoric prior to the presidency.
Irony is a funny thing. Here we have an individual spouting things like "approval ratings" and their "unprecedented decline", yet I'm willing to bet had not only ZERO problem with GW having one of the lowest approval ratings of ALL TIME,but when those reports came probably said things like "approval ratings don't mean anything". Hypocrisy? Double-standard? Sheer idiocy? You be the judge.
thats for sure. bush approval rating were horrid. an indication of how the public felt about his job. i agree, its funny how the folks who could have given a shit about job approval are now advocates of their validity.
cstrand31, you would be merely speculating....but the funny thing is, that never stops libs from spewing their stuff....GW's approval rating rightfully fell when he turned his back on the conservatives....he was a phony conservative.....so, you were wrong again
Really? You really think THAT"S why his approval rating dropped? Because "conservatives" real or not stopped believing in him? That argument leads down a path that I don't think you intended. That argument logically concludes with "conservatives" voting in droves FOR obama. Is that what you were trying to prove?
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Funny that you preface your comment by stating that im merely speculating(granted,but about what?), and then by you positively asserting that I'm a "lib".
Don't worry,I already obtained mine. Clearly you are in need of something other than Rush Limbaugh in your life. Or is it Mark Levine you're getting too much of. They both like to use the term "libs" quite...well,liberally. Conclusion: you should stop now, your idiot is showing.
Has it really come to this? Are we only incensed over murder if it's committed by the opposing political party? Gives a whole new (and sad) meaning to the word partisan.
Re: Kennedy, The other stuff was too "inside baseball" for me. Equality in the context of Civil Rights is good and is very different than other things Kennedy promoted, such as Diversity or Equality in the context of sameness and Collectivism. Diversity is Perversity. It is wrong to tear down the white picket fences to put a microwave and food stamps in every hut. It is American to open arms and opportunity to individuals who take the opportunity.
inside baseball deals with hypocritical political agendas? really? i am not a multiculturalist, and in comparison to the silliness we see in europe in regards to what i ithkn you are speaking to, kennedy was hardly one who advocated separate but equal.
I believe the last guy got his statistic about 20,000 people dying a year because of lack of health coverage from Huffington post.
I'm assuming that because I read that several places there.
I do note now that you point it out that would be hard to prove.
A funny thing about RevolutionofCG is I was going to thank you for watching his video so I don't have to and then I heard your last comment about you being unable to make it all the way through his videos as well! Haha!
rev has lost his mind. he is so bitter his side lost that he can't even see straight. it bugs me when ideologies that great men like james madison, ben franklin and edmund burke such as conservative progression have been bastardized by the neocon approach of nation building and stifiling policy progression. it violates everything reagan, bush 41, and ike stood for. they have ruined their party.
Well not to sound like a gushing fanboy but at least you show by example what true conservatives are like
You remind of what conservatives that I knew were like 20 years ago.
Personally I'm more on the left than you but it is getting pretty lame how much shit is being thrown at the word "conservative" here on youtube. TYT posted a video yesterday titled "Conservatives don't use logic". It was badly one sided.
Thanks for pointing out how the 20,000 deaths argument is intellectually flawed
the idea of conservatism, as penned by edmund burke, was about rational, slow generational progressivism. as much as it bothers me neocons have coopted the term conservative, it bothers me that liberals have coopted the term progressivism when there ideas turly aren't new (and some are not progressive). TYT is the flip side of sean hannity. his turkish antisemitism is ignored by those on the left and that bothers me. conservatism, as its defined is classical liberalism. neocons forget that.
I'm glad to hear you don't have a tent in the conspiracy camp. It's good to see someone with a clear perspective. I tend to favor a govt option but am concerned over who inherits the program in the years that come; mainly, though, I do not like people saying that those who disagree with the program are like terrorists. So ridiculous. LOL at the end, you were really hold'n back the urge to fall over laughing. Good vid. Peace.
well i've done many videos bashing the alex jones types. that rheotric does nothing, its intellectually vapid and furthers no cause and stifles real debate.
Ted kinda annoyed me sometimes, but I'd never wish him dead. The flags in my city are at half staff for Ted at this very moment. Well 99% of them anyway. He should have gone to prison after that car crash though.
Dude, listen, you keep saying there can be no conspiracy cuz these nations are outwardly self-interested. You fail to realize that the plan doesn't work if they appear to be working together in the open. Most in their govs aren't in on it, it is a select limited cabal.
I agree w/ 2nd paragraph Alex. And there are competing groups--nothing ever goes to plan perfectly. The petrodollar moneygrab, however, was evidence to me that something is "afoot." I think there are "waves" of things that happen to many caused by a limited few. And maybe 7 times out of 10 the limited few get what they planned for.
I'd say it's all going as planned, although they have to speed up their timeline cuz a growing number of us are aware of their activities.
Tim might have legit gripes with half of what Alex Jones has to say, but the other half is still enough for me. Something is up, I could run their plays, that's how I know plays are running. I wish Tim would stop playing it safe on this issue. Even if he changed his mind though, I don't think our fate will change however. We can't win.
I think the use of the word terrorists was rhetorical on fleetwood's part.
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and you miss the entire point, its this kind of rhetoric, and the consistent antijew rhetoric from folks like you, that keep dividing people. to be honest, if this kind of alarmist horseshit contnues it wont be good for anyone. get out of your air conditioned comfort and go see the world, you may not whine so much.
battim 2 years ago
I think fleetwood was trying to be rhetorical in calling them terrorists....
thefreeassociation 2 years ago
have u watched his other videos? i dont think so. and calling obama is rhetorical from others, so does that excuse it? lol. no.
battim 2 years ago
You start from the premise that the CENTER is reasonable.
We govern from the center, would you agree?
and how is that going?
THE USA is driving the human race on the fast track towards Armageddon.
Pick a side.
Left or right.
The center is death.
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lol. wow now there is a conpsiracy. its a bit antiquated to think the world is on a left right paradign and one side must be right about everything. why even bother? why not just give into a dear leader? balance in life is much better that choosing conflict. you sound like george bush and his silly "with us or against us" shit. you have an axis of evil too?
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Now you are an example of a class a moron. My video defended kennedy record. My video said he did more for civil rights than his brothers. As for a rich guy giving out money that's hardly among the impressive things about the man. Next time watch the video b4 you comment with inane statemnts. Seriously mind numbing
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Name me one walthyy person who doesn't give money away. Its called a tax shelter. An educated person woulndt have claimed I did something id didn't do. Ted kennedy got away with murder. Even his advocated admit that. I defended his record and you claimed I did not...that is educated? Hardly.
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This is some of the silliest shit I've ever read. If it were a setup...why was none of that mentioned in his case? My opinions are based in facts. Yours are based in paranoid conspiracies. Big difference.
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There really aren't. By his own admission ted left the scene of the accident and waited til morning to call emergency services. Its fuuny. Although I never said a word about a curse you tried to lay that on me. Typical conspiracist straw man tactic. Then with no evidence whatsoever claimed it to be a set up. Even if it were...he was driving drunk by his own admission and did nothing to save her. That called manslaughter
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WolfArden44 2 years ago
There really aren't. By his own admission ted left the scene of the accident and waited til morning to call emergency services. Its fuuny. Although I never said a word about a curse you tried to lay that on me. Typical conspiracist straw man tactic. Then with no evidence whatsoever claimed it to be a set up. Even if it were...he was driving drunk by his own admission and did nothing to save her. That called manslaughter
battim 2 years ago
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WolfArden44 2 years ago
The thing about satire is that it requires a high level of skill to pull off. Fleetwood's efforts are ham-handed and he winds up making himself look as foolish as his adversaries. He doesn't compare to Twain, Swift, Heller... even Stephen Colbert. It's all part of the dumbing down of culture, and I am afraid YouTube has become as big a cesspool as tv.
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
perhaps he knows this and does it on purpose.
the comparison to tv is not true. freewill is nonexistant with tv. the culprit is education, taken over by the state so long ago.
davis' shock technique is well thought out, imho. it's not for you, but just because you don't get or even see it (the layers upon layers of satire), doesn't mean he's a fool, or that it's not of value.
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
I get it. I just don't think it is well done or particularly effective. There aren't that many layers. It's pretty obvious.
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
perhaps you are making a lot of effort to defend a guy who puts out trash once a day. there is no real though put into a daily production of one. its off the cuff regurgitation of things he has already heard or seen. to be honest, i've seen nothing original from him. just his take on things already done.
battim 2 years ago
it doesnt even compare to the beastie boys. thanks for your comments, they are always deeply appreciated.
battim 2 years ago
Hmmmm... FantasticBabblings, you always have something worth saying. I've sat through your longest vlogs satisfied that I was not wasting my time.... and maybe even every Davis Fleetwood video is not a work of art, you have to admit that it is heads above 90% of the crap on YT. Easily.
Personally I'm impressed with this substance and with his dedication. He's determined to put out at least one video a day. That's tough! And hopefully the daily grind will help him improve his videos.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
you are missing the point vic. part of the problem is dealing with these very important issues in a lackluster silly manner that does nothing but spawn more divisiveness. you like drama, but there is a time and place for it. you seem to think it has its place in policy making. i simply do not.
battim 2 years ago
"lackluster silly" = subjective
Divisive? Sure he pokes the right. But he also pokes the right. Not like he's just buying one side's bullshit. Which YOU often do as well. Yet, I don't call you divisive.
"you are missing the point" Am I?
Ask yourself, what is the point of his videos?
He hopes to get him a job in show business -- eventually. That's something that other people will decide.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
You can choose to give him constructive criticism or you can shit on his parade. Personally, I like the guy & hope the best for him. As I do you.
BTW, where were you in Indonesia. Yoko and I went to Lombok a month back for 10 days. LOVED IT!
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
lombok is tiny. did you get to bali?
battim 2 years ago
i dont call people terrorists, vic. thats the point. i got no problem going after both sides. i just dont think we should do it using there silly methods.
battim 2 years ago
your vid icon says "bag of douche"
but u want discussion.
something is amiss.
aren't there much worse offenders deserving of your critiques?
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
If u don't see the difference between calling someone a muderder or a douchebag...well...your lost. And no. Fleetwoods videos are attention seeking shit. Seriously. There is no discussion going on over there. It just folks taking turns calling each other muirderer and nazi
battim 2 years ago
cute battim.
i made no such comparison. rather, pointed out that your calls for more discussion whilst you attempt to slander are hypocritical. its the principal.
attention seeking, no shit. so is mass media and your wonderful "gov't." but his other channel is actually quite educational. have u watched any of "thisdayinamerica?"
eligarf 2 years ago
I was speaking to davis making the comparison not you. And his thisdayinamerica from what I've seen is horseshit. He vilifies role models like cal ripken simply for the sake of seeimg counterculture. We have calendars that do a better job of giving this day in history. Show me where I slandered anyone. I simply stated that making such comparisons are silly. How is that slander?
battim 2 years ago
Well if calling his selfadmiited satire silly (which means subjectively davis agrees with me) subjective is like saying calling obama a nazi subjective. If you don't see people objecting to policy being called terrorists as silly, objectively. Well you would have to make that case. The point of his videos? The same point folks calling obama hitler...they think that making such wild claims will make folks think. Its old tired mind games
battim 2 years ago
You think its unique, original or even intellectual? Seriouisly? Why not defend skehan because he made idiots "think" vic. Fleetwood is hardly talented enough to be in show business. He is not really funny and his audience is too.
battim 2 years ago
I watched a couple of davisfleetwood's vids. He struck me as an out-of-shape professional wrestler. More bark than brain.
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
Have you seen the movie THE WRESTLER, Phil? Maybe old Davis has a few moves left in him. No?
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
ArmyIssu3dWife here.. dropping by to say...
first off: davisfleetwood <333 love him.
We could cut a third, or a fourth, out of our defense budge and pay for universal health care. It's a shame that if my husband wasn't in the military we would have a very hard time affording health care.
ANNDDDD
HI HOW YA DOIN!
Squishykinss 2 years ago
Hey mama. Hope you and your family are great. The suggestion you make is not one beimg discussed...maybe they should
battim 2 years ago
Family are just fine, how are yours kiddo?
This country pours more into a defense budget that just gets wasted. Take this for example, Robert had to get certified to drive an MRAP while he was in Iraq. It is the WORST truck the Army has ever produced. The straps that are suppose to hold the soldiers instead don't fit around their gear. It causes them to die when hitting an IED. They're more likely to survive in a Humvee. Meanwhile MRAPs cost between 600k~1mill EACH. :( Waste.Waste.Waste.
Squishykinss 2 years ago
you forgot the 6000 dollar toilets...
battim 2 years ago
The opposition to a public healthcare option by God fearing people reminds me of a quote from Ghandi;
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
fakepatriot 2 years ago 2
Yeah, like a heathen has the moral authority to judge anyone.....lol....he should have stayed busy worshipping a cow.....or any one of the other million gods they made up......lol
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
fakepatriot,
yeah, Ghandi "liked" Christ so much....maybe he should have looked into following Him....lol....."liked"....lol
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
I'm watchin... just wanted to say HI!
gemycat 2 years ago
Hey hey hey sweet lady. How have you been?
battim 2 years ago
I'm doing well, how are you? :)
gemycat 2 years ago
hangin, lets talk soon. email me
battim 2 years ago
You know Tim, I've been thinking. What we have here is a failure to communicate. Let me back off a touch to get even more into view. This conglomeration plan is the main play, but not the only play. You cite failure in their plan, a failing EU for example, nothing is perfect, I am laying it out as it is to be run. Their plan can fail, these people have contingencies though. They will use a bugbear to actually touch off WW3 for example and pick up the peices afterwards.
AlexGrim 2 years ago
These Nefarious creatures have been deeply rooted in our "Industrial Military Complex" since before I was born. They have Generals and black op armies in secret installations. They have bunkers to hide in when all has failed and the people need to be nuked, all paid for by us to protect our needed public servants. This is why I say we can't win. I could give us a plan to victory, but they have the last card to play. There's nothing I can do for us, I was born too late. WW2 was the turning point
AlexGrim 2 years ago
What type of person could do these things? Some are evil and enjoy it, while others see the masses as breeding out of control and thoughtless polluters, etc and for the good of the planet we must be culled. Much like hunters need to kill deer every season to make sure the other deer have enough to eat. They think they are stewards of the planet and will save it by any means. Even mass murder, just like we were deer. As soon as WMDs came about, and they were mass produced, we lost all hope.
AlexGrim 2 years ago
this is deep stuff, let me not have just worked 16 hours before diving into it.l..
battim 2 years ago
I actually believe that the Nazis and the Soviets for example were created by these people. They fund revolutions so they can grab control of that country. Russia is a prime example. The commies take over and they have a nice bugbear to use for close to a century. Then they need opposition to it, let's gets some Nazis, that's the ticket. They'll sacrifice the Nazis to pin blame for WW2 and proceed to scare us with the red threat to build up a black world they control and we pay for. $800 hammers
AlexGrim 2 years ago
idea for next video: How it's gotten so crazy that the president of the united states can't tell little kids to study hard in school because goof balls fear the "secret indoctrination of liberal policies".....just an idea...
Greensborrow210 2 years ago
A well balanced and structured video.
I really enjoyed your points of views on each video.
kel2corkey 2 years ago
I have some issues w/ Davis too but he didn't make up that number. While this doesn't necessarily prove it true, Peter Singer cited studies in an article he wrote on the healthcare issue that appeared in the NY Times Magazine:
"Estimates of the number of U.S. deaths caused annually by the absence of universal health insurance go as high as 20,000. One study concluded that in the age group 55 to 64 alone, more than 13,000 extra deaths a year may be attributed to the lack of insurance coverage."
mjr256 2 years ago
i never claimed HE made up that number, i simply stated its unprovable. its is unprovable. its like saying "the fact hospitals dont give free heatlh care caused 50,000 death" and? a premise starting out as a hypotheitcal is not a premise. its an unprovable statement. name one coroners report that put cause of death as "no insurance"
battim 2 years ago
I don't know the nature of the studies that have been cited but I wouldn't necessarily say it's unprovable. I think researchers could conceivably come up w/ a means of acquiring a reasonable figure based on certain criteria. There would probably be a large margin of error but I think you could theoretically reach a figure that you could say "at least X amount of people died from preventable causes specifically because they chose not to see a doctor sooner due to the costs or something like that
mjr256 2 years ago
not really. cause of death is conjecture even when speaking in absolute terms. if there is a large margin of error, its not science, its conjecture. preventable is relative. life and death are both complex cause and effect chains. to simplify it is to bastardize reality for an agenda.
battim 2 years ago
Oh snap! Battim calling out Davis! Gracious what will happen next?
missdivinestalls 2 years ago
i just would like to see smart people acting smart, not acting like rush limbaugh.
battim 2 years ago
There is a peace monster at the end of this video...
thanks for the info on Ted Kennedy I hadn't looked it up but I wondered if he was worthy of burial at the Arlington natl cemetery. I am sure his deceased neighbors don't mind...
"because there is a god" that works with 90% of people around here...
Sabrnig 2 years ago
I don't watch those three vloggers.
Any chance "contestant number three" was indeed just trying to be ironic?
*too lazy to look for myself*
OhCurt 2 years ago
Couldn't the same be said of folks calling obama hitler? And if irony was his purpose...doesn't it seem odd he would cite statistics to make a point? So far he has claimed to be satirical, using hyperbole and ironic. What's the point of misuse of literary mechanisms to make a really dumb point...that is...not giving folks healthcare as being "criminal". I mean.why have ambition at all?
battim 2 years ago
Still not having seen the guy's videos, all I can say is it sounds like maybe the "it's satire" line is just a fall-back excuse when the heat gets to be too much.
But this is just a guess, of course.
Ps. When I first started hearing about "birthers" I thought midwives had made the news...!
OhCurt 2 years ago
lol. i thought it was midwives who cause 9.11
battim 2 years ago
Midwives and all the surviving members of The Village People, yes.
OhCurt 2 years ago
Davis was using hyperbole to prove a very valid point - that being that it's almost criminal that we've allowed ourselves to have shitty healthcare for over 70 years.
Oh wait...I forgot. You've demonstrated numerous times in the past that you don't understand the concept of hyperbole.
DarthMerlin 2 years ago
Wow. You really think that calling anyone questioning the method in which we administer healthcare is criminal? You really think that is valid? I know your completely leftist tendencioes make you feel that incedniary and coersive tactics to get ones way are valid, but I had no idea you justify calling them terrorists. I grasp the idea. I just disagree with the tactic. Your justifcation of that tactic could also be used to justifying calling obama a nazi. Interesting
battim 2 years ago
dear bat you know proteanview likes blonde white men. how do you feel knowing that coloured homosexuals masturbate to your videos? BLOCK HIM. you KNOW how negroes crave blondes. don't act like you don't baby.
but yeah good video. i agree alot. torture is bad and we need health.
itrubsthelotion4 2 years ago
Enjoyed the comments of the other video's...nice change of pace
Greensborrow210 2 years ago
all i am saying is that when a person does something like killing another person, then whatever he or she does in his or her life from that point on should not be praised unless that person is held accountable for the death before the future act. So if a man raped your child and got away with it and then cured cancer you would praise him on the day of his death? I think not. The Presidency should be a dictatorship. He controls the nuclear button and nearly every aspect of our lives.
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
well that is a judgement call. i certainly stated in my video he got away with negligent manslaughter, but to say one can't redeem themselves is just odd to me. do i expect that womans family to praise him? no. but i am not that womans family. the presidency as defined by the constitution is not a dictatorship, and thank god you're wrong now, huh? why bother with democracy at all?
battim 2 years ago
republic? yes. democracy? no! we elect a leader--one who runs the country like a president of a corporation. we elect him to lead, not serve. we are going up against people and countries that do not have our interests at heart. our President is our king but he cannot take from us certain things like religion or free speech, but as commander in chief--hell yes, go to war. But the Congress can say no to funding that war long term.
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
I totally agree. He should have been held accountable years ago. You can ignore it all you want, but the girl is dead as dead can be. She had no chance to do good things.
louann5840 2 years ago
Ted was a joke. He rode the wave of Camelot throughout his entire career. He was the loser brother who was able to make good because of the Kennedy name. If a person killed your wife and yet got off of the charge because of his name, you would care less about his accomplishments even if he cured cancer. Edward did vehicular manslaughter. The average jail time was 6 years back then and 10 years now. Some of us cannot get of that no matter what he did later.
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
well, apparently if what you say is true, then bush killed thousands of wives in his illegal war...so what is your point?
battim 2 years ago
nah, Bush was President and the President should have absolute power (in my opinion) to run the country as he sees fit. there is no other way. so for a future administration to question a past one is just foolish. Teddy was an ass, and yes, literally he was an ass to me, so maybe its just a personal thing. He smelled like Jim Beam half the time.
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
but not declare war. that takes an act of congress. never happened. the presidency is not a four year dictatorship. kennedy did like to drink, but i understand tanqueray was his poison. regardless, by your logic, we should ignore anyones accomplishments that were negligently responsible for wives deaths. that includes every war president, no?
battim 2 years ago
ah- he who sports a Mark Twain quote on his home page and does not get Satire?
Pop Quiz: What was Mark Twain's real name?
Why did he use a psydonym?
dig deep, and then re-think
davisfleetwood 2 years ago
i don't recall mark twain making satiric remarks about mass murder...and to compare yourself to mark twain is simply putting yourself on a perch you don't belong on. lol. and you quoted your bible, the huffington post, that is your source of your silly premise. you see, satire has some basis in truth in it, your video, well, didn't. but keep fancying yourself a modern day mark twain, somebody might actually be dumb enough to believe it. dig deep, rethink what you find funny.
battim 2 years ago
that said, mark twisn used a pen name for innocuous reasons, even if folks like you would like to revise history, it was common knowledge that sam clemens was thomas snobgrass, mark twain, and Sieur Louis de Conte. this was no secret. pop quiz: who is dumb enough to really believe you have even an ounce of talent twain did? answer:noone
battim 2 years ago
All right, Davis, I'll bite: Why did Clemens use pseudonym(s)? I thought I knew everything about the guy, but apparently not.
(I'm not being a wiseass here, by the way.)
MSWmson 2 years ago
Actually I think DavisFleetwood is very talented. So that's one. I can't vouch for his 8 miilion views and his 10,000 subscribers. And isn't claiming he has no talent a bit unprovable? Kind of like Fleetwood's unprovable statement that lack health care causes 20,000 plus deaths a year. I'm betting you're right, Tim. It is hard to impossible to prove, but you can't deny it must be behind a large number of deaths. How many would you be willing to accept as provable? Or acceptable?
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago 2
How about this. SOMETHING causes 2,000,000 people in Africa to die from AIDS every year. (Various online sources out there. You can do your own research.) What shall we blame? Ignorance? Greed? The pharmaceutical companies? Superstition? Education?
I actually liked this video, but I think you're focusing on a minor point. The point is universal health care will save lives. Disagree?
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
Gimmeabreakman,
no, universal healthcare will mean millions more people with serious illnesses will die. There will be rationing and inferior care. Fight government-run healthcare, NOW!
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
Coroner reports do cause od death all the time. Find me one that has lack of healthcare as the cause of death. I didn't say he didn't have talent and views and such mean little...aka sxephil...he was comparing himself to twain. You don't think that's a bit boastful viccy?
battim 2 years ago
Gimmeabreakman,
let's see the death that will certainly result from government rationing of healthcare...it's inevitable.....say NO to socialism
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
We have universial healthcare in Japan. LONG ass life spans. 'splain that!
I don't care what bullshit LABEL you put on it, it's a good idea.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
Gimmeabreakman,
if you had a brain inside your socialist head, you'd start using it to think that maybe genetics is a component of the equation....? why are the life spans not as long in other countries with universal health care? you socialists have weak minds....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
where did he mention other "countries?"
and he's correct that the labels are weak attempts at categorizing instead of doing what's right.
ａｍｅｒｉｃＡＮＴｓ allow their gov't to misappropriate and steal the people's money. the solutions are simple if you're not biased due to brainwashing.
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion,
he didn't...i had to do his thinking for him again...typical liberal...you all are like sheeple to the slaughter....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
quite the contrary. try revolutionist.
i would urge u to update your venacular.
i'm neither liberal or conservative.
america is lost with attitudes like your's.
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion,
i was not referring to YOU as a liberal...i was referring to the other person to whom you referred....hopefully you're a revolutionist for capitalism and democracy, otherwise you're no good....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
lallapalooss,
Hi there. Why you got to be like that? All insulting and sh....Diid I insult you? Perhaps you were defensive and insulted by my arguments? I think you insist on labeling me a socialist and a liberal because it gives you a false sense of control over the situation. You think that because you have successfully categorized me as something you may now dismiss my rational argument.
I now that I have indirectly insulted your obvious lack of confidence and introspection enough.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
Now let's get back to the argument.
Please explain how genetically different Japanese are from Chinese or Koreans?
Lastly please explain how Canada, Australia and Japan are are genetically related? They all have populations with extremely long life spans and the all have universal health care.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
vic, you have to show where there is causation. anglo americans have the same lifespnas as anglo canadians and anglo UKers. anemia is a huge difference between han and japanese. there are many genetic differences when it comes to alcohol resistance as well. that said, lifestyle and culture plays a role in lifespan as well. my point is, they aren't genetically related, so therefore, you can't make comparisons in lifespans.
battim 2 years ago
I'll grant you that argument, Tim. Makes sense.
I know a lot of people who work in the medical field -- as doctors, nurses, and psychiatrists. They all tell me the same thing. Yes, their salaries would go down (something I bet is one reason most people are against it -- indirectly influenced by lobbyists) and there would be some problems with universal health care, HOWEVER in the long wrong more people would be helped.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
It works GREAT in Japan except for when somebody needs new procedures or something that has not yet been deemed normal by society -- like organ transplants.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
i hear they do acupuncture though...interesting how culture influences policy.
battim 2 years ago
Yes, they do pay for limited types of acupuncture and certain certified shiatsu therapists and other treatments that I doubt most Western insurance companies would not consider. Good point.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
well a lot of folks make their living on the system as it is, and they will make less. in the long term, you are probably right, but is it societies job? i think that the question folks are asking themselves right now.
battim 2 years ago
Gimmeabreakman,
you categorized yourself as a lib/socialist when you opened your mouth....i had nothing to do with it, son....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
It's all fine and dandy. Just words. In Japan the Liberal Democratic Party is actually conservative. Like I said, it's just your way of telling yourself you're in control of something and someone you don't understand. You'd have to watch me to get to know me. You, however, made it very easy to see what kind of person you are. A mouthbreathing asshole -- interested more in flaming than discussing. Enjoy your life.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
Gimmeabreakman,
i can tell you're just used to people tickling your ears. I'll tell you you're a Leftist, socialist, and borderline commie. Obama is one fat piece of crap? Agree?
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
@gimmeabreakman i didn't know you were into chiseled face blondes too? put the grease away and stop stroking your mexican taquito to battim baby. SIN! .....but good comment though. thanks
continues2rublotion 2 years ago
Blond (without the e) is used to describe males, mixed gender, or uncertain gender. Blonde refers to women or female gender.
In modern use, blond is sometimes used for female as well as male, but blonde is preferred for female.
Not Mexican, not that there is anything wrong with it. Should I assume you are from Kenya?
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ACCOUNT CLOSED.
Gimmeabreakman 2 years ago
liike south african track stars my gender must be uncertain
battim 2 years ago
I'm for some kind of helathcare for those who don't have but lifespan has more to do with genetics than anything
battim 2 years ago
As for saving lives...well...I think we are all living too long as it is vic. Honestly. Japan and america are good examples of how lifespanAs for. Rising is bankrupting us. I say spend moeny on the next generation. Not the last.
battim 2 years ago
you need to be one of those people that edits the ramblings out of your videos. Sure it hurts continuity... but then i would actually listen to your video. You seem rational enough, probably had some good points... but ill never know.
mark1m 2 years ago
oh well
battim 2 years ago
As usual you've hit the nail on the head. Though the Kennedy's were not angels in their personal lives I have great respect for their public service. I commented on RevolutionOfCG's video when he first posted it to at least let his body cool down...the video came out about 6 hours after his death.
I subscribe to RevolutionOfCG...it has always amazed me that his video comments almost always agree with him...I wonder how that happens! He's a true champion of democracy and free speech...NOT!!!
grumpychuck 2 years ago
be blocks those who disagrees and employs friends like googleslave with tons of sock accounts. its pretty simple. he also freezes comments afyer a certain point because the sokcs cant keep up with the backlog.
battim 2 years ago
I completely agree with you about RevolutionOfCG. I watch him and all I see is hate. I stopped commenting on his vids since it's useless
Fringe111 2 years ago
Politics is war without guns. Clearly the right has taken this to heart. To Ted's benefit, he really did continue the civil rights movement. CG thinks he has can have some moral highground by hiding behind dead troops while he attacks another dead man. Scum. I want him and Davis Fleetwood to fight to the death. Winner gets a firing squad.
abortabraham 2 years ago
and MTV wannabe celebrity deathmatch. lol.
battim 2 years ago
something was wrong here. i agreed with your entire video.
although.
fleetwood has stated that he will make videos that use hyperbole and misinformation for his views to counter those that are against his views.
i have a hard time anyway watching his vids since they have become intellectually corrupted.
Peace.
cambridgee 2 years ago
and come now, we aren't that far off, we just skirt on the details. seems the deadline for "talking" to iran is passing quick.
battim 2 years ago
Using misinformation to counter misinformation is somewhat perverse, isn't it?
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
in the abyss of brainwashed america, it might be like putting out forestfires with perimeter fires.
remember the audience he's speaking to includes both "left" and "right" ignoramuses.
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
Perimeter fires burn out the fuel so that fires can't spread. More misinformation just adds fuel to the fire. It's a bad analogy.
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
perhaps a toilet is more aprepos?, with enough shit mayB americans will wake up to the stench their government has become, and actually do something about it, like flushing out the real culprits.
the vid is simply a play on the "you're either with us" manure eaten up and paid for b so many law abiding robot zombie slaves. that is the target audience fantasticB.
letMEaskYOUaQUESTion 2 years ago
fleetwood has no target audience except those who follow him. he is simply playin into their hands, playing the same games as the opposite end. phil, FB, that is, makes valid points. His point, like mine before it is simple, either be part of a discussion of you are no different than those you seem to assail against.
battim 2 years ago
The only undeniable fact, is that Teddy Kennedy was one, big fat communist...who helped hurt our nation...
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
please substantiate the claim he was a marxist
battim 2 years ago
I'm unfortunately used to the gross exaggerations found on YouTube, but how can you make the slightest credible argument that Kennedy was a communist, of all things?
MSWmson 2 years ago
MSWmson,
the "slightest credible argument" that Teddy was a socialist/communist: his voting record.....LOL
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
Can u name one vote that advocated a communist ideology. Socialism and communism are not the same thing
battim 2 years ago
I have to admit I've never heard that argument before: participation in the proscribed due process of our Constitutional democracy/republic being grounds to convict an American representative of communism or Marxism.
I think you're pulling my leg. I hope so, at least.
MSWmson 2 years ago
MsWmson, you asked my why I thought he was a communist....i told you....his voting record.....one does not merely become a communist by merely having participated in a process...and you know that....but typical liberal misrepresentation of facts.....:)
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
again what piece of legislation seems to indicate a marxist point of view?
battim 2 years ago
I'm not going to waste my time with you in going to pull the bill numbers...lol...but Kennedy was one of the most Left-leaning in the Senate...he was in favor of heavy government intervention at every turn....whether it was regulating minimum wage, universal healthcare...he was definitely a socialist...arguably a communist... go do your homework....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
well you made the statement he is a communist, so the burden of proof is on you. his rheotric was left, his voting record was a lot of time very centrist. that said, nothing you say in anyway assumes marxism. its these kind of silly strawmanisms that make me realize americans have no idea what marxism or socialism truly is.
battim 2 years ago
I'll be damned--did you just imply I'm a liberal? If so, you have no idea how far afield that is. I don't belong to any party, in deed or in thought.
But I know how easily misunderstandings can cement in YT, so I'll be clear: it seems incredible to me that you accused TK of being a communist, because it's news to me, and unlike nearly every idjit online anymore, I don't claim to know everything, so I was asking for a clarification. I grew up a boy in the '50s, amid the dreaded "Red Peril" BS.
MSWmson 2 years ago
lalla makes a lot of implications that have no basis in fact, mostly assumption
battim 2 years ago
Obama's poll numbers are down again....Rasmussen reports his approval rating is now 45%.....an unprecedented decline in seven months....LOL.....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
yes it would seem centrists are getting turned off by the notion that his reform is a stepping stone to a more universal type of program. certainly doesn't help that was his rhetoric prior to the presidency.
battim 2 years ago
Irony is a funny thing. Here we have an individual spouting things like "approval ratings" and their "unprecedented decline", yet I'm willing to bet had not only ZERO problem with GW having one of the lowest approval ratings of ALL TIME,but when those reports came probably said things like "approval ratings don't mean anything". Hypocrisy? Double-standard? Sheer idiocy? You be the judge.
cstrand31 2 years ago
thats for sure. bush approval rating were horrid. an indication of how the public felt about his job. i agree, its funny how the folks who could have given a shit about job approval are now advocates of their validity.
battim 2 years ago
cstrand31, you would be merely speculating....but the funny thing is, that never stops libs from spewing their stuff....GW's approval rating rightfully fell when he turned his back on the conservatives....he was a phony conservative.....so, you were wrong again
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
and what is a real conservative? are you telling me real conservative voted in mass for obama, according to your logic?
battim 2 years ago
Really? You really think THAT"S why his approval rating dropped? Because "conservatives" real or not stopped believing in him? That argument leads down a path that I don't think you intended. That argument logically concludes with "conservatives" voting in droves FOR obama. Is that what you were trying to prove?
P.S.
Funny that you preface your comment by stating that im merely speculating(granted,but about what?), and then by you positively asserting that I'm a "lib".
cstrand31 2 years ago
you speculated that i loved bushy boy, cstrand31....you libs need an education
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
Don't worry,I already obtained mine. Clearly you are in need of something other than Rush Limbaugh in your life. Or is it Mark Levine you're getting too much of. They both like to use the term "libs" quite...well,liberally. Conclusion: you should stop now, your idiot is showing.
cstrand31 2 years ago
I get so tired of the bickering.
AAARRRGGHHH!
Hope all is well with you, love! :)
ShortbusMooner 2 years ago
was i bickering?
battim 2 years ago
Oh, no, sugar- I didn't mean you. I meant the left -vs- the right. It's just so lame. :P
ShortbusMooner 2 years ago
Has it really come to this? Are we only incensed over murder if it's committed by the opposing political party? Gives a whole new (and sad) meaning to the word partisan.
proteanview 2 years ago 4
yes it does...and its the first time i've ever mentioned you in the vlog, like the screen freeze i gave ya?
battim 2 years ago
You hooked me up.
I'm just glad I escaped douchbaggery this trip.
proteanview 2 years ago
even when i disagree with you.....douchebaggery is not in your operating procedure. but i'm watching, there is always a first...
battim 2 years ago
Re: Kennedy, The other stuff was too "inside baseball" for me. Equality in the context of Civil Rights is good and is very different than other things Kennedy promoted, such as Diversity or Equality in the context of sameness and Collectivism. Diversity is Perversity. It is wrong to tear down the white picket fences to put a microwave and food stamps in every hut. It is American to open arms and opportunity to individuals who take the opportunity.
lrn2wlk4life 2 years ago
inside baseball deals with hypocritical political agendas? really? i am not a multiculturalist, and in comparison to the silliness we see in europe in regards to what i ithkn you are speaking to, kennedy was hardly one who advocated separate but equal.
battim 2 years ago
5stars battim
KorimTV 2 years ago
thank you mr. jordan.
battim 2 years ago
Great vid battim.
I believe the last guy got his statistic about 20,000 people dying a year because of lack of health coverage from Huffington post.
I'm assuming that because I read that several places there.
I do note now that you point it out that would be hard to prove.
A funny thing about RevolutionofCG is I was going to thank you for watching his video so I don't have to and then I heard your last comment about you being unable to make it all the way through his videos as well! Haha!
WhirlingWolves 2 years ago
rev has lost his mind. he is so bitter his side lost that he can't even see straight. it bugs me when ideologies that great men like james madison, ben franklin and edmund burke such as conservative progression have been bastardized by the neocon approach of nation building and stifiling policy progression. it violates everything reagan, bush 41, and ike stood for. they have ruined their party.
battim 2 years ago
Well not to sound like a gushing fanboy but at least you show by example what true conservatives are like
You remind of what conservatives that I knew were like 20 years ago.
Personally I'm more on the left than you but it is getting pretty lame how much shit is being thrown at the word "conservative" here on youtube. TYT posted a video yesterday titled "Conservatives don't use logic". It was badly one sided.
Thanks for pointing out how the 20,000 deaths argument is intellectually flawed
WhirlingWolves 2 years ago
the idea of conservatism, as penned by edmund burke, was about rational, slow generational progressivism. as much as it bothers me neocons have coopted the term conservative, it bothers me that liberals have coopted the term progressivism when there ideas turly aren't new (and some are not progressive). TYT is the flip side of sean hannity. his turkish antisemitism is ignored by those on the left and that bothers me. conservatism, as its defined is classical liberalism. neocons forget that.
battim 2 years ago
I'm glad to hear you don't have a tent in the conspiracy camp. It's good to see someone with a clear perspective. I tend to favor a govt option but am concerned over who inherits the program in the years that come; mainly, though, I do not like people saying that those who disagree with the program are like terrorists. So ridiculous. LOL at the end, you were really hold'n back the urge to fall over laughing. Good vid. Peace.
Rikotistic 2 years ago
well i've done many videos bashing the alex jones types. that rheotric does nothing, its intellectually vapid and furthers no cause and stifles real debate.
battim 2 years ago
Ted kinda annoyed me sometimes, but I'd never wish him dead. The flags in my city are at half staff for Ted at this very moment. Well 99% of them anyway. He should have gone to prison after that car crash though.
Dude, listen, you keep saying there can be no conspiracy cuz these nations are outwardly self-interested. You fail to realize that the plan doesn't work if they appear to be working together in the open. Most in their govs aren't in on it, it is a select limited cabal.
AlexGrim 2 years ago
I agree w/ 2nd paragraph Alex. And there are competing groups--nothing ever goes to plan perfectly. The petrodollar moneygrab, however, was evidence to me that something is "afoot." I think there are "waves" of things that happen to many caused by a limited few. And maybe 7 times out of 10 the limited few get what they planned for.
BlakeMason2 2 years ago
I'd say it's all going as planned, although they have to speed up their timeline cuz a growing number of us are aware of their activities.
Tim might have legit gripes with half of what Alex Jones has to say, but the other half is still enough for me. Something is up, I could run their plays, that's how I know plays are running. I wish Tim would stop playing it safe on this issue. Even if he changed his mind though, I don't think our fate will change however. We can't win.
AlexGrim 2 years ago