"Treason against the States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." -Article 3 Section 3
I say fuck Texas, Glenn Beck, SC and whoever else is dumb enough to listen to people like that. My only issue with the Gov. is the over-large police force living off society like a parasite.
ok a few things. first I disagree about your opinion regarding the method for dealing with Texas if they should choose to secede, I say let the fools go, they should kill eachother off within two years and thatll go a long way toward raising the average national IQ around here. second, look I know the conservatives are gonna hate on obama no matter what, but the rest of us have gotta demand that he stand up and take care of the people of our country. we were promised change and hes not doing it.
We have not tried to win a war since ww2. korea was a draw, vietnam we lost it here we could have turned it into a glass bottomed self illuminating parking lot. we beat iraq in a few weeks. We cannot be defeated by conventional means. We do not have a tolorance for people being killed we win wars by conventional means.
If Texas ever votes to succeed, I say we let them, just as long as they allow the united states to evacuate all military equipment & personnel, & while that's going on we build a damn border fence.
@godhelpusall5000, I'm pretty sure commiting treason would make them traitors & are you honestly saying that Obama is the only conservative that has ever committed treason? For that matter when did Obama commit treason?
You can't shoot people you want to rejoin the United States. You can't try to beat someone up to just turn around and go "Oh, let's be friends again".
O and yea this country aint free for shit. It is compared to other countries around the world and you are given more opportunity, but there is just much persecutions of all kinds. People are just way too split apart. If you want to live in a free society you should of voted for Ron Paul in the primaries instead of neo con republican, o and Barack obama aint gonig to do shit to help the little people out. So people that like him need to get that through there head
Alright alright alright. Most of you people need to pick up a book/read how this country was founded and created in the first place. Anryth, were not even close to a communist government but we do live in corrupt country that you could call Facism even. If we were, our rights would be completely violated and there would be mass murders of people. While im against war n way, we actually have one a war since WW2 even know that doesn't matter.
We're against Dr.Pepper because of the b.s system that he's running for (the fed,or Cola corps.) Cola corps. is dissolving what was in the People's contract and using it for their necessities to further give aid on other sodas like Diet coke (George W Bush) and Dr.Pepper, so then the Cola co. can have more economical and political power.
So we're not against Dr.Pepper just b/c he's Dr.pepper, but b'c he works for Cola co (moneyhungry fed)
Also....you dummy, do you even know what susession means? So you would advocate attacking Texas for becoming a sovriegn nation? Not for attacking America but for declaring themselves a sovriegn state....that you moron IS tyranical
Hey dumbass, Texas has the right to succede.......maybe you ought to have studied your history instead of eating all those fuckin ribs......also Texas doen't OWE the fed shit. If you actually knew anything you moron, you would know Texas is probably the only state running a surplus.
Only liberals think that its not an oppressive government. Oh and I happen to know that a good 80% of the military would refuse to shoot Americans for something most of them believe in, in the first place. They are sworn to uphold the constitution, which says that states have the right to leave the union if they want to. You obviously dont know your history because we have crushed every opponent we have ever fought in battle. Liberals like you lost the wars so go fuck yourself you fucking child.
I agree you dont leave for light and transient causes, that being said:
Several trillion dollars worth of programs and taxes is not light!
The permanent liberty usurping programs and laws imposed by that government to the execution of the limits on power upon the same by the U.S. Constitution are by no means transient (non-permanent) loses in liberty.
You need to open your eyes friend to what is being done to us. Tyranny doesnt just mean concentration camps.
Tyrannical government is a government that robs you of your rights to manage yourself and start imposing programs and wills with no base in the constitution (your consented powers) upon you at great expense to you and your rights.
Well if Alaska Secede there is not much the rest of the 49 can do they cant win a land war, they cant nuke the place and we know how well air bombardment works you have some of the harshest terrain in the world and 600000 people that know how to us guns and have them and probably 1/8 are better marksmen then the average marine
I'd just let em go, out of printable, that they have the inalienable right to secede, I would however be upset if they take financial ownership of the land we own up there with out paying for it.
Texas is either privately owned (financially) or own by the state of Texas.
Alaska and other western states should have the right eminent domain the federal land if the federal government insists on just sitting on the land and prohibiting anything being done with it.
PS: We never declare war since World War 2 but we have won conflicts even if you dont count Korea and Vietnam, you got Grenada, Iraq 1, and the contras.
its sad that so many of you have predictably fallen into your republican, democrat camps. classic example of divide and conquer. for many years the federal government has grown in power, disregarded the will of those in the states. dems bitch about bush's violations of our rights, yet they gladly assume those powers when they gain office and begin pushing their agenda just as they republicans did before them. government's only interests lie with the government, you do not factor into it.
Just another person that's missed it again...Please explain how spending trillions we don't have is going to get paid off? What are they going to tax next? Point is, we don't want the wars, the debt or other places, like CA. telling us what we should do, and we don't want to tell them.
absolute abomanation!He has spent a million dollars on lawyers so doesnt have to show his birth certificate,school records,and medical records.talk about transparency?He was born in Kenya and is still an Indonesian citizen.Everything he signs is VOID!!Homeland security declared returning soldier without jobs are a threat and will be monitored.
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I'm from South Carolina and when I hear that we are compared to those Seccessionist in Texas, I want to scream. I love South Carolina with all my heart but I also love the US, I may not always agree with the prsident but he's the President so I'll follow him to hell and back if he leads. Finally South Carolina is a proud state but we've all walked the grounds of Fort Sumter and we know what Succession casts, it will not happen again. By the way Govenor Parry is not getting re-elected.
Dude Whats Tyrannical to you, is not tyrannical to us and it seem vice verse.
It is exactly the fact that this government expend so much effort to control us and suppress OUR rights that makes it tyrannical to us when that action is in contest with our believes on our lives.
So perhaps they are both Tyrannical that is why government on both sides MUST be very much limited.
Do on to others as you would have done onto yourself, That means don't take his eye if you don't want your eye taken, its got to stop sometime, you might as well join us and stop it now, that we have finally established this pattern.
We don't need to go into anther conservative tyranny. We can end this Here and now, by ending government's power together!
I think your refering to Bush and he was no concervative, he was republican. The left and right in the party have gone so far its ridiculous. Bush was not much better than Obama is, he and McCain Spector etc. are why the Republican party has alienated true concervatisim!
u know what let us fuckin suceed and let evryone who says fuck texas let us do it then yall will see how bad the us needs texas and i thought we were talkin about texas not the wars we won or lost dumb ass
The people that are for secession are probably some of the dumbest people in the United States. I feel bad for the people in the big cities to live amongst the clowns of small town Texas.
Small Town? wow you have no idea do you, houston Fort Worth Austin Dallas, all are powerhouses of freedom loveing patriots. I my self hail from one of the above listed, It is NOT a small town thing, its a Texas thing.
Well I am not from a small town, I was born right here in the metroplex and have lived nowhere else in my life (I have moved a whole block in my entire life) You obviously dont see it when 1000s of people gather to protest the government in large cities, most from those large cities. The secession sentiment is not confined to small town in any sense, you should stick your head out the window some time.
I do have a personal question, are you from Texas or "from Texas"?
13 colonies, seceded from Brittan, why BECAUSE THEY DISAGREED!!! So listening to you want to kill us because we want out of this mess? Well IM sorry sir your the one coming across as a jackass. You dont seem to realize that the government we have now is NOTHING like our founders intended, Im not an ardent Bush fan either. Overall he was a jerk who pandered to special interests and actually became a left wing president as far as it goes by historic standards.
If you think Obama isnt a tyrant your out of touch with the concept
ty·rant plural ty·rants n
absolute ruler: an absolute ruler who exercises power cruelly and unjustly
The majority of the American people dont want such things foisted upon them such as nationalized health insurance, the give act, and government owned private industry. That sir is the beginnings of tyranny and you would do well to watch your back because uncle Sam is coming for the private citizen next Das verdana comrade!
well isn't that cute, but is WRONG. the colonies did not leave over disagreements but over the fact that they had no say in any policies set down by the the king and a no one in the royal court pleading on thier behalf. Next point is still wrong, as i said at 7:00 you start something and we will fucking destroy you. the fringe we want civil war again group doesn't get to claim moral high ground when they are trying to split our country up. you don't get to run off with a US state.
how in the fuck is Obama a tyrant, by your own definition he is not a tyrant, he is not an absolute nor is he unjust or cruel. that was an asinine statement. Bush, nixon, LBJ, Reagan those guys were tyrants, they were cruel and unjust. you are the one who is out of touch.
How is any of that statement dumb? Rather than beat my head against a brick wall to prove my point to a self righteous twit with no legal basis for his argument, I merely posted words from a man who would know that closely resembles current events.
when the government, regardless of party, seeks to force states into capitulation by withholding money that belongs to the states and the people, in an effort to force states to accept laws they do not agree with (no child left behind, the stimulus), it is tyranny. bush did it, obama's doing it, only the fucking idiots believe there is a significant difference between them. i protested bush & now i'm protesting obama because he spends my money on bailing out those who acted irresponsibly.
tyranical means the government is controling everything. bailing out banks, saying businesses are too big to fail, welfare, thats tyranical by definition
lol dude are you serious about ww2? You are a complete idiot. What do you call DDay? Im currently in the military and you can speak for yourself about the military not being the greatest one on the planet. How do you know you fat PoS? You arent in the military. Also Look at the casualty rates in vietnam and korea. We won EVERY MAJOR BATTLE in vietnam. Get your damn facts straight man seriously. You are an ignorant fool.
no you are ingorant, was one of the biggest tactical falures in american history. fuck your stupid bull shit we lost the vietman war just because we scored a point doesn't mean we won the game. our losses in vietnam were sickening and you have the nerve to say we won a war we fought in for over a decade and still would have been fighting if we hadn't backed off. you go down to the VFW and tell those guys that all their buddies didn't get fucked over and watch how fast you get beat down, fuck off
what did we do in WWII we lost in africa, we got our asses handed o us normandy, we got a fist up the ass in the pacific. all that happend in operation desert storm was we stood on the boder and glared angrily at iraq. yes we stopped the invasion of kuwat but we stopped remember we gave up on the eve of victory. the germany thing is debateble as to when the actual invasion vs troop move ments happend
normandy was completely FUBAR, operation torch was not the whole of the African campaign and you know rommel was kicking or asses in africa and if it wasn't for ultra that would have failed, come on man we were constantly in on hole or another against japan. we did play our part but we mostly got our asses handed to cause of own generals.
I guess you just have higher standards for success than I do. I consider D-Day a success because it gained a beachhead and allowed the Allies to move into Germany. I consider North Africa a success because the region fell under Allied control and made the way for the Italy invasion (which wasn't nearly so successful). I consider the Pacific War a success because Japan lost its carriers in battle, it was outproduced, it was nuked twice, and it surrendered.
Yeah dude, what is your definition of tyrannical? I don't want to point out tyrannical acts by our government and then have you shift the definition to it just being a "problem".
Here is one:
-I disagree with how my taxes are spent and I don't pay them.--->I get shot.
What if an individual and the government happen to disagree on what is justly acquired and maintained property? People think there is no gun involved in this disagreement. However, my property is mine and it isn't up for majority vote. When the government disagrees they will take it at the point of a gun. I don't pay taxes they will try to arrest me, I don't cooperate they put a gun in my face and make me go. What is a tyrannical govt.?
succession will never happen !!!! maybe a few riots lots of picket signs an stuff but a second civil war not likely. obama will george bush the button if they even think they are gonna get away with that not to mention alot the voters that put the man in office will be pissed. if they wanted to really do somthing they should go on a strike or walk out do demonstration but to sucede is a bunch of bah humbug rubbish.U.S. tech alone would end that argument.
It's not a color issue, so don't think I'm worried @ pissing off the black 15% of this nation. It's about federal government being corrupt on a wholesale level. The STATES own the land, the fed was brought in to help in certain areas. Per the constitution, it is "...the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...". The fed "helped" in Texas, but doesn't own ANY of it. Come get bit by this rabid dog, dumbass. Racist shit-talker. Read the constitution.
look no government is ever not corrupt thats a bullshit reason to run crying you fucking moron. you don't get to run off because you choose pepsi and i chose coke. what you do is change the government for the better not make a smaller one that will be just as corrupt.
Threatening secession wakes people up to the corruption. Opens eyes & gets people involved in voting. I personally do not want Texas to cede from the union, just to help make it known it is an option. Texas joined the union under unusual circumstances. Read the Texas constitution, articles 1 & 2. If the states must threaten the fed, then so be it. Fed must realize we won't lay down for their BS power-grabbing. Obama fired the CEO of General Motors!?!? WTF? NOT for him to decide.
yes it is, the public owns GM and our highest representative fired him for being a moron. i used to live in texas so i know they consider themselves the republic of texas because of history but i am sorry you are the state of texas and should act like it and contribute.
Where in the constitution does any elected official have that power? Nowhere. Just 1 more example of the fed overstepping the power granted them. Gave back some taxpayers $ in "stimulus" & then tell us how to spend it. Force us to use the $ as they say, or we don't get the $? We the people know blackmail when we see it. Not running & crying...gonna vote these peckerwoods out of office, & vote in constitutional-minded congress that will impeach & bring charges against these lawbreakers.
I don't think he is quote mining. At several parts in the video you say "this is not a tyrannical government" and then just as many times you say "just try it and see what happens, you're all going to die".
Wouldn't a non-tyrannical government try and make peace with an area that has seceded, and do their best to keep them in? Maybe I'm the crazy one...doubt it though.
no, i don't have make peace with the roomate who storms out of the appartment and does pay his side of the rent. i have stated that was talking to protesters who would incite violence by saying if you start some shit you will lose. so what you seem to be showing is that you hear what you want to hear. as staed at 7:00
Say what nesteph...? hmmm seems than down the page you were useing that same statement to claim that if Texas did leave you would come kill us, so which is it? do you think this looser is worth our time trumasmune?
I'm a Texan, grassroot's Obama supporter, even though I voted Bush 2000. Many around the nation trash Texas, were used to it. I dont tea party or believe USA is tyrannical, and love USA. But being a Texan I dont see what is wrong with secession, or why other American's would care, since they mostly have no regard for us anyway's. I also think Pres Obama is the best thing that happened to USA in decades. Thank You Sir.
the point i am only trying to make is obama is not Antonio de Padua María Severino López de Santa Anna y Pérez de Lebrón (Santa Anna), and he is also not franklin peirce.
As I wrote in my earliest post's on my blog ranchchimpjournal, Obama stood out to me as a Senator,plus his post college background. I knew it wouldnt be easy, but this is was the only one that actually spoke out of the box up there, was with a mainstream party, and actually understood the word bipartisan. Yet I knew many would not understand him, because he is beyond thing's like right/left, which most of the populace think's in term's, you can say he is a model of what's to come. Thank You Sir
God I hope not, I agree he isnt right or left hes just a socialist.
(by a person disenfranchised with partisan politics)
" because he is beyond thing's like right/left, which most of the populace think's in term's, you can say he is a model of what's to come. Thank You Sir" ranchchimp
Hello Certhaltomcity,I live by Stemmons & LBJ Frwy's(It's in your name) : ) No, Obama is actually not a socialist, he is actually a new direction in politic's,I'm not left or right myself,even though I voted GOP most of my life.But I also voted Obama. You will see a new direction coming, more of a "peoples" type movement.Folk's want a lil socialism,but are not willing to call it that, as a buddy told me, SS is actually "social",example.
If its not socialism it looks very much like it, when the government is buying up private industry that is just wrong. contrary to this videos creator you are pleasant surprise sir, you actually conduct your disagreements with maturity. I really dont like that youtube decided to limit our responses to 500 letters dots and spaces, otherwise I would say more. As far as I am concerned any government control is suspect and the sweeping liberties that Obama and his allies take is even moreso.
Personally I prefer smaller units of government to allow for more personal freedoms, more local and regional control, and less intrusion from outside influences. Secession is by extension the most expedient and peaceful way to bring this about. However war mongers like this videos creator would rather kill those who wish to break away peaceably than accept that their views are not shared.
The civil war (war for southern independence or WSI) did not settle the issue of secession. It merely was defeated for a time, as France was occupied by invaders during the early 1940s so the state of Texas is currently occupied. States are Sovereign and independent entities who CONSENT to let the federal government speak for them, this fact has escaped MANY in modern society.
The term state in and of itself indicates this fact, (definition 2 from Encarta on State Country: a country or nation with its own sovereign independent government).
This is what our founding fathers intended, definition 1 has been clouded by neo revisionist definitions, at times social Marxist driven.
The US government is a Voluntary confederation between states(yes the articles of confederation still apply as stated by the supreme court)
Thomas Jefferson himself said that any people so inclined to do so should create a new form of government better suited to them. That is our desire, we wish to hit the reset button on all that has been done to change the form of the government, and bring it back to constitutional standards. The feds flip flop on following that document according to how it best suits their interests, which makes them useless to any people desiring true freedom. The fact is secession is legal and better than war.
basically socialism, with a couple side coarses,when the peoples back's are against the wall,and desperation set's in, they will ask for thing's they normally wouldnt. Yes "right's" will change, more government intervention. That is why I say it is so important for us to excercise constitutional right's. Most folk's dont listen okay,too pre-occupied with nonsense that is fostered upon us. The whole system as is need's to collapse period.
True very true, I want a moe back to the constitution, any way that can be accomplished I will support. But as it stands the DC beaurocrats wont go for that, thus secession seems a good alternative. The more local you can get the better freedoms will be cultivated, State level seems to be the most senseable level to fall back to(as I dont really want to speak manderine either)
good stuff im from texas and just wanted to tell you that the actual land be longs to the state everystate your right about everyting else tho. I liked how you understand not all of us are as stupid as our governer with every fucking outsider just calling the rest who arent doing shit fucking red necks and anti american but thanks
Get saved Jesus can help you. Jesus loves you angry man. Freedom of speech. Tea bags are freedom of speech. So who cares I would rather hear them than gay marches.
The lessons of the civil war are clear, secession is treason. Half a million americans died the last time around, but of course we always forget our mistakes...
"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right . . Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit." Abraham Lincoln, 1848 (Abe was a hypocrit)
America can win in Afghanistan and Iraq...but the problem is, the defense contractors are running the wars now. They fight to prolong wars rather than to end them.
Think about it. In WW2, the entire American public was part of the war effort. During Vietnam, defnese contractors got the chore ...they didn't fight with overwhelming force - they fought with the intent of developing new technology and newtactics. That's what we are doing now. Developing weapons and learning to fight new geurrilas
what i mean is that the whole animosity between diff. regions i the nation is the reason that the balance of power in antebellum washington DC was such a dividing issue. It can also be said that the issue of the balance of power (slave states vs. free) was a reason for the animosity to begin with. It was a downward sprial. muchlike today: red and blue states are torn apart by certain issues such as abortion. Im not saying there is gonna be a war. but we should learn from our past mistakes.
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MrStickhorse 6 months ago
you mad, bro?
YourProfessor 7 months ago
fuck this gay right here.
TheRebelpit 8 months ago
"Treason against the States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." -Article 3 Section 3
What your talking about is Treason.
buffalobilliebob 10 months ago
We didn't get our asses kicked in korea or vietnam you nigger
MrGodTube 10 months ago
the tea baggers are tyrannical
squirrelsarecute7 1 year ago
fuck all yall fags go texas
XwickedXclownzX17 1 year ago
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fuck you and fuck texas
squirrelsarecute7 1 year ago
I say fuck Texas, Glenn Beck, SC and whoever else is dumb enough to listen to people like that. My only issue with the Gov. is the over-large police force living off society like a parasite.
chorridus13 1 year ago
ok a few things. first I disagree about your opinion regarding the method for dealing with Texas if they should choose to secede, I say let the fools go, they should kill eachother off within two years and thatll go a long way toward raising the average national IQ around here. second, look I know the conservatives are gonna hate on obama no matter what, but the rest of us have gotta demand that he stand up and take care of the people of our country. we were promised change and hes not doing it.
juggalogre 1 year ago
TEXAS SUCKS HORSESHIT, WE DONT NEED THOSE RACIST REDNECK ALEX JONES ASS KISSIN LOSERS
squirrelsarecute7 1 year ago
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FuckYooAll 1 year ago
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squirrelsarecute7 1 year ago
The ironic thing is that if Texas were to secede the first thing they will do is apply to the United States of America for foreign aid.
panterguy 1 year ago
We have not tried to win a war since ww2. korea was a draw, vietnam we lost it here we could have turned it into a glass bottomed self illuminating parking lot. we beat iraq in a few weeks. We cannot be defeated by conventional means. We do not have a tolorance for people being killed we win wars by conventional means.
tubbymanbat 1 year ago
If Texas ever votes to succeed, I say we let them, just as long as they allow the united states to evacuate all military equipment & personnel, & while that's going on we build a damn border fence.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux naaaaa. Do you know how many States would join Texas
godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
None, at least if any did they'd get the shit blown out of them. Texas is the only state with the right to succeed from the union.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux and why is that?
godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
@godhelpusall500, it was one of the terms of surrender during the civil war.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux I don't think an military that is 75% on the right will stay with Obama
godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
You're saying that the military is treasonous? & Why wouldn't a right winger stay with Obama?
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux Obama is the only traitor to this nation along with the Liberals.
godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
@godhelpusall5000, I'm pretty sure commiting treason would make them traitors & are you honestly saying that Obama is the only conservative that has ever committed treason? For that matter when did Obama commit treason?
yellowkrux 1 year ago
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godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
@yellowkrux No the fuck it's not. No state has the right to secede. It is treason to talk about it.
StylistecS 1 year ago
@StylistecS I'm pretty sure it's sedition at most.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
secession is legal. do i want to secede? no but its legal. and i can prove it too
admendment 10 all powers not given to the federal government or forbiden by states are herby reserved to states
GodAthie 1 year ago
Invade Russia in spring.lol and do you rly think if any state left the union without any shots fired the government would still invade?
DixieOfDeKalbCounty 1 year ago
They have that right! If you don't see that Washington is becoming tyranical and faciest your blind! go get LASIK
shanish82 2 years ago
watch your mouth.
elfspriit 2 years ago
You can't shoot people you want to rejoin the United States. You can't try to beat someone up to just turn around and go "Oh, let's be friends again".
cm2dude 2 years ago 2
@cm2dude that's what I'm saying to, if they want to leave they have the right
godhelpusall5000 1 year ago
O and yea this country aint free for shit. It is compared to other countries around the world and you are given more opportunity, but there is just much persecutions of all kinds. People are just way too split apart. If you want to live in a free society you should of voted for Ron Paul in the primaries instead of neo con republican, o and Barack obama aint gonig to do shit to help the little people out. So people that like him need to get that through there head
atl881 2 years ago
Alright alright alright. Most of you people need to pick up a book/read how this country was founded and created in the first place. Anryth, were not even close to a communist government but we do live in corrupt country that you could call Facism even. If we were, our rights would be completely violated and there would be mass murders of people. While im against war n way, we actually have one a war since WW2 even know that doesn't matter.
atl881 2 years ago
wow..good one comparing obama to Dr.Pepper...
We're against Dr.Pepper because of the b.s system that he's running for (the fed,or Cola corps.) Cola corps. is dissolving what was in the People's contract and using it for their necessities to further give aid on other sodas like Diet coke (George W Bush) and Dr.Pepper, so then the Cola co. can have more economical and political power.
So we're not against Dr.Pepper just b/c he's Dr.pepper, but b'c he works for Cola co (moneyhungry fed)
Chrisspy704 2 years ago
Also....you dummy, do you even know what susession means? So you would advocate attacking Texas for becoming a sovriegn nation? Not for attacking America but for declaring themselves a sovriegn state....that you moron IS tyranical
boonedawg68 2 years ago
Hey dumbass, Texas has the right to succede.......maybe you ought to have studied your history instead of eating all those fuckin ribs......also Texas doen't OWE the fed shit. If you actually knew anything you moron, you would know Texas is probably the only state running a surplus.
boonedawg68 2 years ago 2
fucking niggers..........
TrollKing2009 2 years ago
fucking racists
Chrisspy704 2 years ago
typical ignorant texas rednecks. go back to mexico you ignorant hicks
TheMudFalcon 2 years ago
hey dumb ass we let russia take berlin we waited for them to give them payback for stalingrad and the invading of russia and put a fukn shirt on
proudtexan669 2 years ago 5
wrong numbnuts.
nesteph 2 years ago
@nesteph haha "fucking" ignorant chode
ps greates nave in history was UK hahahah
KyleRumCinco2012 10 months ago
it's the fat coon show again...no shirt, no shoes, no brains no dad, no job...welfare check yes...
Napoleon1Blownapart 2 years ago
this guy is an iiot and it really shows when he talks about free market capitalism being more tyranical than the communist government in place now.
and we kinda won desert storm so your also dumb there.
anryth 2 years ago
Only liberals think that its not an oppressive government. Oh and I happen to know that a good 80% of the military would refuse to shoot Americans for something most of them believe in, in the first place. They are sworn to uphold the constitution, which says that states have the right to leave the union if they want to. You obviously dont know your history because we have crushed every opponent we have ever fought in battle. Liberals like you lost the wars so go fuck yourself you fucking child.
zegermandude 2 years ago
I agree you dont leave for light and transient causes, that being said:
Several trillion dollars worth of programs and taxes is not light!
The permanent liberty usurping programs and laws imposed by that government to the execution of the limits on power upon the same by the U.S. Constitution are by no means transient (non-permanent) loses in liberty.
You need to open your eyes friend to what is being done to us. Tyranny doesnt just mean concentration camps.
Monorprise 2 years ago
Tyrannical government is a government that robs you of your rights to manage yourself and start imposing programs and wills with no base in the constitution (your consented powers) upon you at great expense to you and your rights.
Monorprise 2 years ago
Well if Alaska Secede there is not much the rest of the 49 can do they cant win a land war, they cant nuke the place and we know how well air bombardment works you have some of the harshest terrain in the world and 600000 people that know how to us guns and have them and probably 1/8 are better marksmen then the average marine
trowa47 2 years ago
I'd just let em go, out of printable, that they have the inalienable right to secede, I would however be upset if they take financial ownership of the land we own up there with out paying for it.
Monorprise 2 years ago
Texas is either privately owned (financially) or own by the state of Texas.
Alaska and other western states should have the right eminent domain the federal land if the federal government insists on just sitting on the land and prohibiting anything being done with it.
PS: We never declare war since World War 2 but we have won conflicts even if you dont count Korea and Vietnam, you got Grenada, Iraq 1, and the contras.
Monorprise 2 years ago
its sad that so many of you have predictably fallen into your republican, democrat camps. classic example of divide and conquer. for many years the federal government has grown in power, disregarded the will of those in the states. dems bitch about bush's violations of our rights, yet they gladly assume those powers when they gain office and begin pushing their agenda just as they republicans did before them. government's only interests lie with the government, you do not factor into it.
P5Y0P 2 years ago
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P5Y0P 2 years ago
Great video man.
sataricon111 2 years ago
Just another person that's missed it again...Please explain how spending trillions we don't have is going to get paid off? What are they going to tax next? Point is, we don't want the wars, the debt or other places, like CA. telling us what we should do, and we don't want to tell them.
AaronYoung777 2 years ago
absolute abomanation!He has spent a million dollars on lawyers so doesnt have to show his birth certificate,school records,and medical records.talk about transparency?He was born in Kenya and is still an Indonesian citizen.Everything he signs is VOID!!Homeland security declared returning soldier without jobs are a threat and will be monitored.
HoustonCabbie 2 years ago
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I'm from South Carolina and when I hear that we are compared to those Seccessionist in Texas, I want to scream. I love South Carolina with all my heart but I also love the US, I may not always agree with the prsident but he's the President so I'll follow him to hell and back if he leads. Finally South Carolina is a proud state but we've all walked the grounds of Fort Sumter and we know what Succession casts, it will not happen again. By the way Govenor Parry is not getting re-elected.
Bluehairedmerc 2 years ago
Dude Whats Tyrannical to you, is not tyrannical to us and it seem vice verse.
It is exactly the fact that this government expend so much effort to control us and suppress OUR rights that makes it tyrannical to us when that action is in contest with our believes on our lives.
So perhaps they are both Tyrannical that is why government on both sides MUST be very much limited.
Monorprise 2 years ago 4
Do on to others as you would have done onto yourself, That means don't take his eye if you don't want your eye taken, its got to stop sometime, you might as well join us and stop it now, that we have finally established this pattern.
We don't need to go into anther conservative tyranny. We can end this Here and now, by ending government's power together!
Monorprise 2 years ago
I think your refering to Bush and he was no concervative, he was republican. The left and right in the party have gone so far its ridiculous. Bush was not much better than Obama is, he and McCain Spector etc. are why the Republican party has alienated true concervatisim!
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
I'm hoping New Mexico and other States join them.
I want much, much, more individual freedom and self-determination!
You know I want to be able to actually control my own life's for myself rather than have big government in Washington try to control it for me.
What a novel idea, this Freedom is! I cant believe we have been forced by a hostile majority to give up so much of this freedom.
God forbid we actually have the right to manage our own lives for ourselves.
Monorprise 2 years ago 4
u know what let us fuckin suceed and let evryone who says fuck texas let us do it then yall will see how bad the us needs texas and i thought we were talkin about texas not the wars we won or lost dumb ass
dopey1515 2 years ago 4
The people that are for secession are probably some of the dumbest people in the United States. I feel bad for the people in the big cities to live amongst the clowns of small town Texas.
StylistecS 2 years ago
Small Town? wow you have no idea do you, houston Fort Worth Austin Dallas, all are powerhouses of freedom loveing patriots. I my self hail from one of the above listed, It is NOT a small town thing, its a Texas thing.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
nah. It's a small town thing. I'm also from Texas. Houston, Dallas, Austin or whatever is completely different from Cut-N-Shoot, Bryan, and Vidor.
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certhaltomcity 2 years ago
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Well I am not from a small town, I was born right here in the metroplex and have lived nowhere else in my life (I have moved a whole block in my entire life) You obviously dont see it when 1000s of people gather to protest the government in large cities, most from those large cities. The secession sentiment is not confined to small town in any sense, you should stick your head out the window some time.
I do have a personal question, are you from Texas or "from Texas"?
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
13 colonies, seceded from Brittan, why BECAUSE THEY DISAGREED!!! So listening to you want to kill us because we want out of this mess? Well IM sorry sir your the one coming across as a jackass. You dont seem to realize that the government we have now is NOTHING like our founders intended, Im not an ardent Bush fan either. Overall he was a jerk who pandered to special interests and actually became a left wing president as far as it goes by historic standards.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
If you think Obama isnt a tyrant your out of touch with the concept
ty·rant plural ty·rants n
absolute ruler: an absolute ruler who exercises power cruelly and unjustly
The majority of the American people dont want such things foisted upon them such as nationalized health insurance, the give act, and government owned private industry. That sir is the beginnings of tyranny and you would do well to watch your back because uncle Sam is coming for the private citizen next Das verdana comrade!
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
well isn't that cute, but is WRONG. the colonies did not leave over disagreements but over the fact that they had no say in any policies set down by the the king and a no one in the royal court pleading on thier behalf. Next point is still wrong, as i said at 7:00 you start something and we will fucking destroy you. the fringe we want civil war again group doesn't get to claim moral high ground when they are trying to split our country up. you don't get to run off with a US state.
nesteph 2 years ago
how in the fuck is Obama a tyrant, by your own definition he is not a tyrant, he is not an absolute nor is he unjust or cruel. that was an asinine statement. Bush, nixon, LBJ, Reagan those guys were tyrants, they were cruel and unjust. you are the one who is out of touch.
nesteph 2 years ago
lol, well since you have a shaky grip on reality I guess there is no point talking.
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Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
especially, when you make dumb statements like that.
nesteph 2 years ago
How is any of that statement dumb? Rather than beat my head against a brick wall to prove my point to a self righteous twit with no legal basis for his argument, I merely posted words from a man who would know that closely resembles current events.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
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when the government, regardless of party, seeks to force states into capitulation by withholding money that belongs to the states and the people, in an effort to force states to accept laws they do not agree with (no child left behind, the stimulus), it is tyranny. bush did it, obama's doing it, only the fucking idiots believe there is a significant difference between them. i protested bush & now i'm protesting obama because he spends my money on bailing out those who acted irresponsibly.
P5Y0P 2 years ago
@nesteph
tyranical means the government is controling everything. bailing out banks, saying businesses are too big to fail, welfare, thats tyranical by definition
GodAthie 1 year ago
lol dude are you serious about ww2? You are a complete idiot. What do you call DDay? Im currently in the military and you can speak for yourself about the military not being the greatest one on the planet. How do you know you fat PoS? You arent in the military. Also Look at the casualty rates in vietnam and korea. We won EVERY MAJOR BATTLE in vietnam. Get your damn facts straight man seriously. You are an ignorant fool.
Badbikeride 2 years ago 2
no you are ingorant, was one of the biggest tactical falures in american history. fuck your stupid bull shit we lost the vietman war just because we scored a point doesn't mean we won the game. our losses in vietnam were sickening and you have the nerve to say we won a war we fought in for over a decade and still would have been fighting if we hadn't backed off. you go down to the VFW and tell those guys that all their buddies didn't get fucked over and watch how fast you get beat down, fuck off
nesteph 2 years ago
Your history's a little spotty. :-)
*The U.S. won the Gulf War, to name one.
*They did a great deal more in World War II than you imply.
*Germany DID invade Russia in the summer (June 1941). The trouble was, time passed.
That being said, I agree that Texas secession is retarded.
BaronGrackle 2 years ago
what did we do in WWII we lost in africa, we got our asses handed o us normandy, we got a fist up the ass in the pacific. all that happend in operation desert storm was we stood on the boder and glared angrily at iraq. yes we stopped the invasion of kuwat but we stopped remember we gave up on the eve of victory. the germany thing is debateble as to when the actual invasion vs troop move ments happend
nesteph 2 years ago
It's a shame to argue with each other since we agree with what your video is about, but why not, for fun? :-)
Operation Torch in Africa had its setbacks but was successful, to the extent that Allies in Africa attempted to invade Europe through Italy.
The U.S. had heavy casualties in Normandy, but they took the beachhead and used it to invade Germany.
And the Pacific... I don't know how you can say the U.S. wasn't responsible for winning in the Pacific. Japan surrendered to us.
BaronGrackle 2 years ago
normandy was completely FUBAR, operation torch was not the whole of the African campaign and you know rommel was kicking or asses in africa and if it wasn't for ultra that would have failed, come on man we were constantly in on hole or another against japan. we did play our part but we mostly got our asses handed to cause of own generals.
nesteph 2 years ago
I guess you just have higher standards for success than I do. I consider D-Day a success because it gained a beachhead and allowed the Allies to move into Germany. I consider North Africa a success because the region fell under Allied control and made the way for the Italy invasion (which wasn't nearly so successful). I consider the Pacific War a success because Japan lost its carriers in battle, it was outproduced, it was nuked twice, and it surrendered.
But yeah, we lost some battles.
BaronGrackle 2 years ago 3
agreed my friend
nesteph 2 years ago
Yeah dude, what is your definition of tyrannical? I don't want to point out tyrannical acts by our government and then have you shift the definition to it just being a "problem".
Here is one:
-I disagree with how my taxes are spent and I don't pay them.--->I get shot.
trumasamune 2 years ago 3
who said that, i didn't. i was ytalking about the asshats who want to start another civil war over some bullshit idealism, who are you talkingabout.
nesteph 2 years ago
In response to your 5:50
What if an individual and the government happen to disagree on what is justly acquired and maintained property? People think there is no gun involved in this disagreement. However, my property is mine and it isn't up for majority vote. When the government disagrees they will take it at the point of a gun. I don't pay taxes they will try to arrest me, I don't cooperate they put a gun in my face and make me go. What is a tyrannical govt.?
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago 3
it would probably be a good idea to attack Russia when you're not being vice-gripped between Russia and the West.
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
succession will never happen !!!! maybe a few riots lots of picket signs an stuff but a second civil war not likely. obama will george bush the button if they even think they are gonna get away with that not to mention alot the voters that put the man in office will be pissed. if they wanted to really do somthing they should go on a strike or walk out do demonstration but to sucede is a bunch of bah humbug rubbish.U.S. tech alone would end that argument.
rdavian 2 years ago
If Texas Secedes, not one fight will be fought...How many of you damn yanks want your brothers to be killed?
I do believe we won the first gulf war (didn't even take a month)
Nooga183 2 years ago
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Nooga183 2 years ago
By the time We the People are through, the fed will wish we HAD ceded from the union.
Cloudy2Clear 2 years ago 4
It's not a color issue, so don't think I'm worried @ pissing off the black 15% of this nation. It's about federal government being corrupt on a wholesale level. The STATES own the land, the fed was brought in to help in certain areas. Per the constitution, it is "...the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...". The fed "helped" in Texas, but doesn't own ANY of it. Come get bit by this rabid dog, dumbass. Racist shit-talker. Read the constitution.
Cloudy2Clear 2 years ago 4
look no government is ever not corrupt thats a bullshit reason to run crying you fucking moron. you don't get to run off because you choose pepsi and i chose coke. what you do is change the government for the better not make a smaller one that will be just as corrupt.
nesteph 2 years ago
Threatening secession wakes people up to the corruption. Opens eyes & gets people involved in voting. I personally do not want Texas to cede from the union, just to help make it known it is an option. Texas joined the union under unusual circumstances. Read the Texas constitution, articles 1 & 2. If the states must threaten the fed, then so be it. Fed must realize we won't lay down for their BS power-grabbing. Obama fired the CEO of General Motors!?!? WTF? NOT for him to decide.
Cloudy2Clear 2 years ago
yes it is, the public owns GM and our highest representative fired him for being a moron. i used to live in texas so i know they consider themselves the republic of texas because of history but i am sorry you are the state of texas and should act like it and contribute.
nesteph 2 years ago
Where in the constitution does any elected official have that power? Nowhere. Just 1 more example of the fed overstepping the power granted them. Gave back some taxpayers $ in "stimulus" & then tell us how to spend it. Force us to use the $ as they say, or we don't get the $? We the people know blackmail when we see it. Not running & crying...gonna vote these peckerwoods out of office, & vote in constitutional-minded congress that will impeach & bring charges against these lawbreakers.
Cloudy2Clear 2 years ago 2
You said "the government is not tyrannical" then you say if you leave we will "put you down like rabid dogs". You are a fucking dumbass.
LibertarianVoice 2 years ago 3
don't quote mine me asshole
nesteph 2 years ago
I don't think he is quote mining. At several parts in the video you say "this is not a tyrannical government" and then just as many times you say "just try it and see what happens, you're all going to die".
Wouldn't a non-tyrannical government try and make peace with an area that has seceded, and do their best to keep them in? Maybe I'm the crazy one...doubt it though.
trumasamune 2 years ago 4
no, i don't have make peace with the roomate who storms out of the appartment and does pay his side of the rent. i have stated that was talking to protesters who would incite violence by saying if you start some shit you will lose. so what you seem to be showing is that you hear what you want to hear. as staed at 7:00
nesteph 2 years ago
Say what nesteph...? hmmm seems than down the page you were useing that same statement to claim that if Texas did leave you would come kill us, so which is it? do you think this looser is worth our time trumasmune?
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
I'm a Texan, grassroot's Obama supporter, even though I voted Bush 2000. Many around the nation trash Texas, were used to it. I dont tea party or believe USA is tyrannical, and love USA. But being a Texan I dont see what is wrong with secession, or why other American's would care, since they mostly have no regard for us anyway's. I also think Pres Obama is the best thing that happened to USA in decades. Thank You Sir.
ranchchimp 2 years ago
the point i am only trying to make is obama is not Antonio de Padua María Severino López de Santa Anna y Pérez de Lebrón (Santa Anna), and he is also not franklin peirce.
nesteph 2 years ago
As I wrote in my earliest post's on my blog ranchchimpjournal, Obama stood out to me as a Senator,plus his post college background. I knew it wouldnt be easy, but this is was the only one that actually spoke out of the box up there, was with a mainstream party, and actually understood the word bipartisan. Yet I knew many would not understand him, because he is beyond thing's like right/left, which most of the populace think's in term's, you can say he is a model of what's to come. Thank You Sir
ranchchimp 2 years ago
God I hope not, I agree he isnt right or left hes just a socialist.
(by a person disenfranchised with partisan politics)
" because he is beyond thing's like right/left, which most of the populace think's in term's, you can say he is a model of what's to come. Thank You Sir" ranchchimp
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
Hello Certhaltomcity,I live by Stemmons & LBJ Frwy's(It's in your name) : ) No, Obama is actually not a socialist, he is actually a new direction in politic's,I'm not left or right myself,even though I voted GOP most of my life.But I also voted Obama. You will see a new direction coming, more of a "peoples" type movement.Folk's want a lil socialism,but are not willing to call it that, as a buddy told me, SS is actually "social",example.
Ranch Chimp
ranchchimp 2 years ago
If its not socialism it looks very much like it, when the government is buying up private industry that is just wrong. contrary to this videos creator you are pleasant surprise sir, you actually conduct your disagreements with maturity. I really dont like that youtube decided to limit our responses to 500 letters dots and spaces, otherwise I would say more. As far as I am concerned any government control is suspect and the sweeping liberties that Obama and his allies take is even moreso.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
Personally I prefer smaller units of government to allow for more personal freedoms, more local and regional control, and less intrusion from outside influences. Secession is by extension the most expedient and peaceful way to bring this about. However war mongers like this videos creator would rather kill those who wish to break away peaceably than accept that their views are not shared.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
The civil war (war for southern independence or WSI) did not settle the issue of secession. It merely was defeated for a time, as France was occupied by invaders during the early 1940s so the state of Texas is currently occupied. States are Sovereign and independent entities who CONSENT to let the federal government speak for them, this fact has escaped MANY in modern society.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
The term state in and of itself indicates this fact, (definition 2 from Encarta on State Country: a country or nation with its own sovereign independent government).
This is what our founding fathers intended, definition 1 has been clouded by neo revisionist definitions, at times social Marxist driven.
The US government is a Voluntary confederation between states(yes the articles of confederation still apply as stated by the supreme court)
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Thomas Jefferson himself said that any people so inclined to do so should create a new form of government better suited to them. That is our desire, we wish to hit the reset button on all that has been done to change the form of the government, and bring it back to constitutional standards. The feds flip flop on following that document according to how it best suits their interests, which makes them useless to any people desiring true freedom. The fact is secession is legal and better than war.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
basically socialism, with a couple side coarses,when the peoples back's are against the wall,and desperation set's in, they will ask for thing's they normally wouldnt. Yes "right's" will change, more government intervention. That is why I say it is so important for us to excercise constitutional right's. Most folk's dont listen okay,too pre-occupied with nonsense that is fostered upon us. The whole system as is need's to collapse period.
Ranch Chimp
ranchchimp 2 years ago 5
True very true, I want a moe back to the constitution, any way that can be accomplished I will support. But as it stands the DC beaurocrats wont go for that, thus secession seems a good alternative. The more local you can get the better freedoms will be cultivated, State level seems to be the most senseable level to fall back to(as I dont really want to speak manderine either)
certhaltomcity 2 years ago 2
good stuff im from texas and just wanted to tell you that the actual land be longs to the state everystate your right about everyting else tho. I liked how you understand not all of us are as stupid as our governer with every fucking outsider just calling the rest who arent doing shit fucking red necks and anti american but thanks
utdude28 2 years ago
Get saved Jesus can help you. Jesus loves you angry man. Freedom of speech. Tea bags are freedom of speech. So who cares I would rather hear them than gay marches.
Tiona777 2 years ago 5
Lol go eat some fried chicken
bjsnc81 2 years ago
The lessons of the civil war are clear, secession is treason. Half a million americans died the last time around, but of course we always forget our mistakes...
tbirdguy1 2 years ago
good vid mate!
theepilepsy 2 years ago
"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right . . Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit." Abraham Lincoln, 1848 (Abe was a hypocrit)
One5thOfWhiskey 2 years ago 2
GREAT vid
GeneralR14 2 years ago
America can win in Afghanistan and Iraq...but the problem is, the defense contractors are running the wars now. They fight to prolong wars rather than to end them.
Think about it. In WW2, the entire American public was part of the war effort. During Vietnam, defnese contractors got the chore ...they didn't fight with overwhelming force - they fought with the intent of developing new technology and newtactics. That's what we are doing now. Developing weapons and learning to fight new geurrilas
whitecollarcriminal 2 years ago
He speaks the word, man!
hulkmeister23 2 years ago
wait a sec..................south carolina is pullin the "i want to sucede" crap also?
werewolfpirate 2 years ago
30 redneck states are.
whitecollarcriminal 2 years ago 2
Your such a bitch. Your a yankee cunt just like your mother and sister
RedneckWhiteMan 2 years ago
ya, it worked just GREAT for them last time.
reallyrandomdude23 2 years ago
Better dead than red!
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
same additude that started the civil war.
reallyrandomdude23 2 years ago
Oh, explain your statement.
certhaltomcity 2 years ago
what i mean is that the whole animosity between diff. regions i the nation is the reason that the balance of power in antebellum washington DC was such a dividing issue. It can also be said that the issue of the balance of power (slave states vs. free) was a reason for the animosity to begin with. It was a downward sprial. muchlike today: red and blue states are torn apart by certain issues such as abortion. Im not saying there is gonna be a war. but we should learn from our past mistakes.
reallyrandomdude23 2 years ago
Obama is a radical marxist. Hows wellfare treating you. I must have helped you buy your computer.
RedneckWhiteMan 2 years ago
Ignore RedneckWhiteMan.
He's a stay at home white trash who sleeps with his mom and clings to guns and bibles.
He uses the word "welfare" cause he thinks he can intimidate Blacks like you.
whitecollarcriminal 2 years ago