I Claudius episode 6 (1/6) Queen of Heaven

[mmedefarge]

I believe that that room still exists on the Palatine. As a tourist, we were allowed access to it but the paintings were not visible.

[frtw4428]

At 7:35, it almost looks as if Livia is talking on a cell phone!

[omenroc1]

Her speech started off so lofty...

[cleander180]

Tiberius had babies nursed so as to suckle on his penis. He had little boys who swam between his legs while swimming and nibble his genitals - his minnows. The Romans became the most bestial sadistic people till the germans. I urge you all to read Suetonius and Tacitus (the unabridged Suetonius). If Livia did it all for the Empire why didn't she off Caligula?

[BRUTUALTRUTH]

Were there no chairs in those days

[slimithy12]

after my wife told me that she better kill herself otherwise i'd kill her myself! there is a time and a place for confessions and dinner parties with your friend isnt exactly it!

[liosalonnya]

see it here mimb o .net remove space

[christimacc]

George Baker did such a fine job portraying that miserable wretch Tiberius.

[JOHN91043353]

Ah how ironic, Livia had Drusus killed to make Tiberius Emperor, and when he is apperently Drusus was worth ten of Tiberius.

[3baxcb]

@JOHN91043353 Yeah but Livia saw Drusus as the troublesome son. She obviously didn't care for Tiberius' drepravities (if he had any at all in real life) or choice of subordinates. He likely followed her lead in intrigue and murder and look how that affected Caligula, Claudius and Nero.

[RICKANDDIANNE]

@3baxcb if he had any? what about crete?

[RICKANDDIANNE]

@RICKANDDIANNE sorry, meant capri!

[3baxcb]

@RICKANDDIANNE Suetonius spoke a lot about Capri but he was also full of gossip and accounts that can be comparable to modern-day tabloids which can stretch the truth or even leave some bits of information out. The reliability of many ancient sources can be strongly debated, especially when written by a historian who lived in a time of the Five Good Emperors who probably had a vested interest by depicting many of the predecessors in a negative light.

[jstrahan2]

In the show, Livia told Claudius that, though she had marked Drusus for death, he had actually died of his wounds.

[noclass33]

the romans were scandalously debauched...it is said that if a roman husband did a particularly prodigious poo he was compelled by law to feed it to his neighbor's wife while he diddled her doodah from behind...they couldn't put that part of the book in the tv series of course -it was hinted at but no more...

[dannyrm100]

@ShowYourWorking ; Yes, he truely is illiterate. I could'nt agree w/you more. His Father must not have ever taught him how to argue w/out fighting. Children do this,when their emotions over-rule their thinking ability. Daddy never told him that name-calling is verbal violence. Sadly, there are a glut of characters like him out here, on the info-net, fowling our air-space. I don't know what's worse; him or the denial-cult, that has invaded our reasonable society.

[Kayla82988]

can anyone tell me who the woman that commits suicide is? not the actress but who is the character she is portraying. Sometimes gets complicating keeping up with all the people and who is related to whom lol

[dannyrm100]

@Kayla82988 ; If I understand your request correctly, 'Francine ' is the wife of Piso, who fakes stabbing herself, then spins quickly & stabs Piso(her husband). If you have the Spanish captions running, you'll see her name on screen, It's a little more than half-way thru Ep 5(2/6). Yer-rite, but it's constantly complicated keeping track of Kin-Folk, the timeline & other data. It creats for us a feeling similar to caring about the characters as well as a sleuth-like amount of clues to unravel.

[dannyrm100]

@dannyrm100 ; One of the rare occasions for me, when the film outshines the R.Graves book. This series is a true work of art, standing with it's own credibility, alone & proud. It's been said that most of the story-line is fictional and/or sensational fabrications of historical fact. I disagree. The ' Historical Novel ' & their authors, R-much diff. then standard novels. They have to make it past Pub's & the Editors of the genre. Brutality comes to mind. They cannot violate time-lines, etc,...

[bookkeeper57]

How would you like to be at dinner with a guest who commits suicide over dessert?

[AquaRing]

"It's my birthday next month, what are you going to buy me?"

Oh, sucks to be you, Tiberius.

[lilanma]

Man, even Livia was better than Tiberius.

[WonderBread006]

your all idiots

[tnb35]

well this part show no understanding in roman sexual consensus...

erotic art on walls was very common in the roman area, in dining rooms and guests rooms and all around the house.

mass orgies of food and sex were common, and homosexuality wasn't so unaccepted... in fact what mattered the most was who is on top of who, if some one of a lower status was to be above some one of upper status that was a taboo those days. this scene is totally unRoman!!!!

[Timefliesbye]

Indeed. It was the most normal thing to have erotic art. Walls were often filled with rather exposed tapestries or anything else that at the time the series was made was mildly obscene.

Guess they had to R rate this series else it would get some fuss when a woman talked about beautiful erotics hung on the living room walls.

We are dealing with British after all, never saw a people so uptight about sex. If this had been the French we would have gotten to much of it though :P.

[Holyjerk]

Yes after an orgy like that, she really would not want to kill hersef but go back for more of the same....Like is said good clean fun!

[WonderBread006]

Your an idiot thats not true at all. And also those were the Greeks who were cool with people being gay.

[osallent]

What's funny is that even though Lollia is shown to have killed herself here, the real Lollia lived for about 20 more years and was even Empress.

[Holyjerk]

Ha ha I was right.  That orgy sounds like good clean dirty fun.

[WonderBread006]

lol Your a real idiot you do know that there were probebly many Lollias. there about 4 emperors after wich non of them had a wife named Lollia.

[Holyjerk]

This first eposide seems like a little bit over-acting, does it not?

[piontro]

Her name was Lollia Paulina one of the greatest Roman Ladies.

[archeronfoot]

Not the last time a Camilla has bewitched a king (or at least a Prince)

[dgonz26868]

LOL 7:50. Good ole Livia can still be counted on to make life embarrassingly hellish for her son Tiberius.

She's deliberately yelling all this so the crowd can hear.

[mashfan90]

lollia had complete altruism bless her. tiberius was just pervy like caligula

[timebandit71]

7:20 well that certainly put a downer on the party....

[caffeinequeen89]

I love how the astrologer hasn't aged.

[luckylangerie]

my respect to whoever loaded thes up but sometimes its like they dropped the episodes like leaves in a garden on a windy day.I get three in a row then the rest are lost somewhere never to be found.

[woodbinedrinker]

I find it best to have one window open with the list of all the episodes, then open the ones I watch in a new window. If the follow up episode isn't in the Related Videos section on the right, I close the window and go back to the main page and start again with the next video in order.

[luckylangerie]

thanks...

[twhwa]

The same one too!

[amyleepwnz999]

Poor Lollia... :(

[Shufei]

That scene always was so sad, especially in the book.

[jonwiley]

Well, it's a speech designed to kill a dinner party

[luckylangerie]

jonwiley

Yes its an amazing speech alright.Beastly acts of such unspeakable filth haha..

[3baxcb]

@jonwiley And knowing Claudius' excessive drinking, a speech to sober anybody.

[BumbleBeeInABluebell]

I'd forgotten how wonderful this series was. Thank you so much for posting it. It's a real feast.

[007InMiami]

incredibly powerful monologue.

[12stringsforme]

Actors were still trained Thespians then.

[JimmySmers]

Which character was she supposed to be?

[paulwall1981]

I agree with every good comment. The stars who were in it, the sets, everything about this show reeks of class. I dbout very much if any one can make a show like this now.

[virgo10]

There are not enough good things you can say about this series. The best thing to ever appear on television.

[regszikora]

That makes a Drama Queen look kind of wimpy!!!!! Thanx for posting these episodes they are fantastic. Also nice to see a young Patric Stewart. I became a fan of his with this series to many years ago now.

[zeusbark]

You welcome, I thought that such a great show deserves to be viewed, and I therefore uploaded it.