BOLIVIA, THE MOST EXCITING PLACE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW

[NormanArches]

suarezjaguar - whilst 1.3% of GDP on military expenditure may not be much on a global scale, and you say it´s too much for a poor country like Bolivia, it is actually fuck all when you have the world´s largest military and intelligence services plotting to unleash civil war in your country and assassinate its elected head of state, as has been evidenced many times - I live there, so we see the stuff you don´t on domestic TV. It is Fuck All. They should probably spend more to defend themselves.

[NormanArches]

anonymity correctly points out the sometimes ludicrous nature of this obsessive freemarket thinking and how its hard-set dogma is far closer to the lunacies of something like the bureaucratic nature of the old Stalinist East European dictatorships with their state quotas and bread queues than most anything on the modern, democratic Left.

And that is the point.

[RiquinhoNojento]

they increased the charges for water by something like 300%. This is a perfect example of the failure of this economic policy.

[WarmongerWW3]

Bolivia STOLE the rainwater that belonged to Bechtel.

[suarezjaguar]

@WarmongerWW3 Rainwater does not belong to Bechtel corporation

[WarmongerWW3]

@suarezjaguar IMF disagrees with you.

[sinsabercomo]

@WarmongerWW3

While you are correct that the IMF disagrees, are you defending this? Even if the courts gave Bechtel a settlement for their losses regarding the "stolen" rainwater... do you not have trouble with the idea of someone owning rainwater? If not, you must be from the Chicago School of Economics yourself. Bolivia has been the poorest nation in Latin America for years with about half their population (varying over time obviously) living below the poverty line. Now this? Shame, Shame.

[anonymity11]

Here is the answer for you economics morons. You see what the truth is,in Chomsky's institution,their "economics department" would argue for the privatization of water in Bolivia,because it's the wonderful "theory". Now if the people turn out to have no access to water,then too bad,it's not the department's problem,they don't care, but the people will. So you see why Chomsky is against this nonsense, formal economic theory is just used to cover the injustices in the real world by private powers.

[marsig11]

@anonymity11 No, MIT contains quite a few economists (as do most universities) who would argue that for certain goods, driking water being one of them, public provision is more desireable than private.. Your one-sided view of economic theory has probably been acquired through the unfortunate tendancy in the economics profession of only the morons ending up on TV and in the public eye.

[marsig11]

All of you are idiots. Capitalism sucks.  So does Socialism. Get over it.

[brazilnut23]

Chomsky is wrong in his assertion that Bolivia is the most democratic country in the world. In order to arrive at this conclusion you have to conveniently forget that government workers are being coerced to campaign for Morales ' re-election. If they refuse they will quickly find themselves out of a job.

[dkrto]

what a load of rubbish... mostly white upper class my ass.... the people in Bolivia are standing up to a racist no good puppet of Chavez.... go read your history you dumb shit... I'm from there...

[histerics3]

I'm fairly sure Chomsky has read his history - could you please elaborate? I would be interested in your perspective if it were worded more calmly and with more detail. How is Chavez racist and racist against whom?

[dkrto]

I mean Chavez puppet, Morales is a racist thug. Basically there are three main geographical areas in Bolivia: Andes, Valleys and Lowlands/Amazon. Morales is from the highlands (Andes) and he does much in favour of his kind only, specially cause they form the majority of his party's membership. He discriminates against those who are different ethnically and politically

[bapyou]

In Bolivia the pre-Morales government did favors only for THEIR ethnic groups. So why is it wrong for Morales to do the same, if indeed he is doing the same?

The only reasn I can see is that you are in the group who had power before and now you feel what indigenous Bolivians have felt for many generations.

Further, the story of the privatization of Bolivian water is the real subject of this talk by Chomsky.

[dkrto]

You must know me from time ago then to say that Im from the governing elite, both sets of my grandparents were peasants, the only reason I can read and write in two languages is because my parents taught us to study and work hard. I was never part of the rich elite more than you are part of the Kennedys. Did you know that most people in Morales cabinet are part of the rich elite, that most of his indigenous cabinet members have left or were forced out. the world is not black & white mate

[bapyou]

The subject of this video is not Morales' cabinet; the subject is the privatization of Bolivian water rights. About which, it is worth noting, you have absolutely nothing to say.

And I don't believe anything you've written. You have no credibility whatsoever.

[dkrto]

what sort of credibility do you want, the fact that I was there when the Guerra del agua took place in Cochabamba? does that count. Besides, I was answering you other post. Regarding the water wars, as far as I can remember Morales had nothing to do with the resistance except to cash in on it, it was the Coordinadora del agua who headed this resitance. Morales has not impoved the services in Cochabamba, Oruro or La paz since he came into power all he has done is pass laws to retain power

[bapyou]

I take no orders or information from YouTube posters like you. You think you are going to influence someone with your posts. You have nothing constructive to say and obviously you are completely biased. I will make up my mind about Bolivia by reading about it, not by taking what you have to say at face value & giving ascent to your agenda.

[dkrto]

good on you mate, youtube is not the place to learn about something properly but it is a place to leave your opinion which is what I have done. I am not ordering you about I just answered your posts. However if you really want to know how is it like in Bolivia I invite you to go there. Im visiting my folks this year and taking some cash for them (you may not know but the government claim a 40% tax on any donations being made even if its medicines) do you want to come along and see for yourselve?

[bapyou]

Go to Bolivia? I cannot afford to travel internationally. But, since you're a wealthy capitalist, why don't you pay my way? Then I'll come.

Again, since you offer no sources for your claims, I take nothing you say seriously. You are completely biased and obviously pushing a right wing agenda, which I am, as a committed unashamed leftist, fighting against until I die.

You'll find in me nothing but a fist in your face forever.

[dkrto]

Wealthy capitalist? you teach in a college for heavens sake Im a warehouseman... ive had to save for 3 years before being able to go you are a poor excuse for an intellectual that has no opinion for himself. Seriuosly, what a joke of a leftist are you? I used to be in the Socialist Workers Party in Belfast until I realized what socialism is all about, it's not about the people or society, its about power, getting power and keeping power. All my facts I've told you are found online

[bapyou]

I teach in a college? So fucking what? You have a distorted view of what someone teaching "in a college" makes. I make very little & live in an expensive city. A good car mechanic makes more than I do.

Anyway, you're the wealthy capitalist. If Capitalism is so great, why can't you buy me a ticket to Bolivia? What's the matter? Reality imposing limits on you?

And socialism is all about "getting power and keeping power"?

Are we to assume then that capitalism is not? LOL

[goyahtlamon]

@dkrto I am a Computer Engineer and System's analyst dkro; how can you compare capitalism and socialism. First off, socialism has been part of the U.S. when we implemented Social security, welfare, and other programs, yet it is still capitalist; look at China. You are an intellectual?

[dkrto]

sorry goya... I cant really see where Im comparing Socialism to capitalism.... could you elaborate please...

[dkrto]

oh... and if I find your fist in face.... i'll omote gyaku you to the floor and perform a gedan takeori on your arm you pathetic little man.... interpret that... imbecil que ni siquiera sabes de los que hablas

[dkrto]

sorry sorry... didn't mean to say pathetic little man... try losing some weight mate....

[bapyou]

Yeah yeah ... I'm fat. So what? YOu my doctor?

I don't see any videos of you on your worthless channel. What are you? Too goddamned ugly to show your face?

[dkrto]

@histerics3 i meant Morlaes is racist

[SomeUsefulVids]

You smell of mind control. Poor thing :(

[dkrto]

on the contrary... i use my brain instead of believing what the leftist anarchist try to thrust down our necks. Have you been to bolivia and seen what changes morales has done? how about the steep rise in the price of milk, bread and oil? How about the 50% tax on any money being received from outside Bolivia even if its for a charity? how about the rise in crime and drug trafficking? how about the rise in foreign debt and loss of commerce? I used to be a socialist until I saw through their lies.

[mrhero]

the rise in the price of milk bread and oil comes from the international commodity market. Soja reached a peak in mid 2008, as well as corn. Bolivia's balance of trade has never been as positive as now, with an 8 billion USD surplus in 2009. I'm not socialist, but at least I try to inform myself before giving facts.

[dkrto]

@mrhero Bolivias balance pf trade has never been positive now? where dod you get this from... Bolivia is selling less gas, less oil, less soya tha ever before. The US have not expanded the Afta agreement with Bolivia because of Morales.... and the only country who 'promised' to buy more is Venezuela and they are not buying alf as much as they said they were... thus the inflation has risen since 2007 200%...

[goyahtlamon]

So you think things are better in the United States. Do you actually think you have it that bad?

The only anarchists and fascist are the extreme right with their religious, racist, and political propaganda, just like here in the U.S.

[dkrto]

No I don't think that the US are better off at the moment no one is. But you do have pensions, welfare, tax credits (I assume) all these meausures used to at least ensure there is soemthing to fall back on. Even if you don't work yoy can claim benefits. Bolivians don't have this and Morales who would think being socialist is concerned about this last year spent $500 million on weapons from china, venezuela and russia. My point is they use all this social speeches to get into power only.

[suarezjaguar]

@dkrto Bolivia -  Military Expenditures: 1.3% of GDP (2009)

This is considered very low in relation to the global average.

[dkrto]

@suarezjaguar not when the people of Bolivia are struggling to get jobs, food, and basic living things. When you consider that the US spends a billion dollars a month on its military then yes it is low.... but Bolivia is not the US or a European country... that money should be put back into the economy

[suarezjaguar]

@dkrto They spend proportionally less than most European countries and the US spends. I'm talking in proportional terms.

[STR8187]

go fk urself

[Andrew5544]

He continued to say all the time: "i support the no state solution". What is support? Nearly all his statements are facts.

[73shuriken73]

And this guy is supposed to be an anarchist? And supports a quasi-totalitarian gobernment?

[dkrto]

amen

[dkrto]

@73shuriken73 absolutely agree mate

[PeelTower]

Noam Chomsky the most honest American in the country.

[dkrto]

bullcrap... he is just as a liar as all politicians... he forgot to mention how Morales used narcotics trafficking to finance his so called "rise" to power...

[mrhero]

any proofs? or just preconceived words in the air

[dkrto]

@mrhero no I was there when he became a prominent politician 10 years before becoming president... did you know about the young girl he had sex with so he could father a child? he was about to be thrown out of parliament but according to Bolivian law it is not possible for any member of parliament to be thrown out during paernal leave.... and at the end he didn't even mary the poor woman... i was there and I saw how he came to power....

[wilburnforce]

"well people won't be able to afford so they won't drink water" hahahahahaha.

there is this restrained contempt for tyranny and monstrosity in him that makes chomsky that much more enjoyable to read