Firearm Movie Myths - Part 1

[dirtdiver6789]

What about when you see someone with a Glock which has no hammer but you hear a hammer being cocked?

[epicgeorge]

Brief clip or brief magazine?

[wakymonster]

iv also noticed that they pull out there gun and it make that sound when the didnt even do anything to it.

[unclet95]

I think it's funny when you see war movies and they have an M16 and the dust cover is closed. Also, in the movie Black Hawk Down, in the beginning when they one guy, "Hoot" I think his name is, gets on a helicopter, he racks his charging handle. After that, you see them in the helicopter and he racks the charging handle again, seeing an animal below and saying "Who's hungry" Watch it and you'll see what I mean.

[LiveOutLoudUSA]

a modern handgun without a mag release on the bottom of the grips ex; (small cal weapons : 22's 25's) but normally with 9mm or bigger cals.. especially with hi cap or "regular cap" mags they'll probably be drop free... in a situation you want to release the mag with strong hand (drops on it's own) free hand already reloading.. if you have an auto slide lock.. it makes for quick reloads.. just some insight for beginners looking to purchase a firearm

[Mahbu]

About the racking. I think it's about sound. Something about hearing it just sends chills.

[bajesus666]

5:33, not true if you are shooting a .700 nitro express elephant gun, ;)

[LieutenantDan605]

the one thing that really iffs me is the lack of realistic ballistic properties.

like the fact that people can unloaded on with a full mag of .45 ACP and they just have a couple of little holes in them. when in reality, they'd be a nice little pile of stump and blood. do you know of any movies that are really realistic with weapons?

the only one i can really think of is Hard Boiled. even the Squibs are pretty realistic.

[Alexc3217]

Well guns can be made to reduce recoil, but yeah, no gun will make you fly, unless they are godlike explosive rounds from the future

[GlaBurnzUrHouseAK47]

movies don't usually show the loading of firearms

[bsrman36]

I think one of the most common myths about pistols that comes from the movies (AND THIS DRIVES ME NUTZ WHEN I SEE IT AT THE RANGE) is when people shoot their handgun sideways or think one can accurately shoot a handgun sideways. HOLY CRAP does that get me going.

The other is curving a bullet from that movie. I get worked up over that one...lol

Good points orbital!

[FerrariF50gt1]

i could think of one instance where you would hear that click. Which would be a double action reolver.

[laudiumWP]

my favorite is when they shoot more rounds than the pistol holds :)

[poostokcerty]

ya haha

[ztejas13]

yeah thats so annoying

[schm147]

so true, so true... bad guys, swat teams, they all cock their guns only when they arrive on a scene

[spartan8345]

lol knowing about guns makes alot of movies lame, and about the whole guns and crime rate thing, If somone really wants to use a gun to shoot somoen (even if guns are agaisnt the law) they will do it, I've seen videos of people in the US with guns that are illigal whats stopping them? nothing, banning guns will do nothing, if a criminal is going to do something illigal they might as well go big and use a gun any ways

[italianppf2]

how about when someone gets shot then continues to fight and run around like it's a small prick wound! totally lame. the worst, i think, is the lack of recoil especially when a shot gun is fired... or the fact that the actor's ears aren't ringing.... guns are loud hellooooo :)

[Phisherman10]

It's youtube. Stop talking politics and appreciate the video. Thank you OrbitalMechanics for discerning the differences between reality and movies.

[mikec767]

what if sombody had illegaly gotton a gun and broke into your house and killed your whole family except you because the gov. took your gun away .....then what

[Corim0512]

I have a question if the USP45 CT available to the general public and if so can they handle 9*19 parabellum(9mm) rounds

[Vantom91]

I have to ask a fairly stupid question, forgive me I am a Canadian and have never fired a pistol, rifles yes, but never a pistol. I see this one in a lot of movies and I think its likely BS, but when you release a magazine from a pistol, will it slide out on its own or does it have to be pulled out or does it depend on the weapon itself? I see this in a lot of action movies where the magazine just drops out of the pistol to allow for a speedy reload.

[OrbitalMechanics]

Good question. It actually depends on the pistol, but most auto loading pistols with magazine are drop free, which is the term used if they can fall out by their own weight. Dirt, debris, or fouling can cause a magazine to bind up, but they should be easy to remove with a slight tug.

The movies are prob right on this one.

[Vantom91]

Thank you, I asked a buddy on this one, who deals with WWII or early period weapons at a museum, but he didn't seem to know for certain. In his experiences, which were admittedly limited as far as pistols go, they didn't but these would be older pistols that he was used to.

[Gezab]

Actually, many pistols in World War II have "free drop", or sliding magazines.

[lynette1953]

how about when the guy has a 1911 and fire 900 rnds w.o reloading:)

[noose357]

2 things. I think the answer to the first movie myth is best explained by The Caller from Phone Booth

"...now why didn't he have it (the gun) cocked? Because that sound...is scary."

lol but I get what you mean. I see that happen a lot more with scenes involving shotguns more than anything.

2: is a question. The last movie myth you mention...the clicking sound of the dry firing on single action. I was trying to think of an example... Is that what happens at the end of Saw 3?

[JBCProdukshenz]

@OrbitalMechanics and some have the mag release button

[Transporter1022]

The only stupid question is an un-asked question.

[salvoben]

what amazes me is the simple, calm way you USAns talk about your guns and death instruments as if it is your new printer, or your new i-pod or whatever harmless.

toasted bread, jam and bullets for breakfast every morning?

[Quag7]

What amazes me is how infantilized the rest of the world is about an inert object, and how emotional they get over an object which millions carry and use safely and peaceably.

It's just metal and plastic. The person holding it is evil, or they are not. Do you believe your own countrymen, upon holding a pistol, would become instantly corrupted and go on a rampage?

The only deaths my "death instrument" has been involved in is the murder of paper targets and tin cans.

Turn off your TV set.

[salvoben]

PEACEABLY??

even nulear energy is considerably harmless and peaceful if those who handle it are good-willing persons.

A gun is conceived to kill people, not tins and cans. spread that gun all over the population and you'll find out there's more than one reason to ban them. people need more guns to protect themselves from the already countless guns existing! That's insane.

By the way, my tv set is always off. too much violence culture in it.

[Quag7]

I'm sorry, but I don't know how to tell you that you really don't know what you're talking about without sounding insulting, except to make the point that I know far more gun owners than you do, have lived in the US my entire life around guns, and have never been a victim of gun crime or threatened with a gun.

You may well have some superstitious belief that the mere possession of a gun leads to violence, but reality simply doesn't bear your opinion out.

Sorry.

[bigveasy]

Yes, but, if nobody has a gun then who would need one for ''self defence''?

The number of gun owners you may or may not know does not enter into the notion. How many of your friends are farmers and how many are gangsters? Let's not go down that route.

Salvoben was totally right, "A gun is conceived to kill people''.

[Quag7]

"If nobody had a gun?"

That's like, "If nobody did illegal drugs," or "if nobody drove drunk."

The scenario you present is ludicrous and has no connection to reality. People have guns - in particular, really terrible people own guns. That is true now and will always be true, for the same reason people will always do dangerous drugs and drive drunk. I won't even get into the State and its sins.

I say, so long as this is true, responsible people must have the right have them too.

[bigveasy]

Oh, I'm sorry, less than 24 hours later the comment you replied to has been deleted.

Land of the Free, home of the brave and we can't even speak freely on Youtube. Fools and hipocrites.

In turn, your comments only deal with a very selected reality - yours. Society will never progress for as long as people obsess over their own little world, ignore what happens outside and stifle reasonable, reasoned debate.

[Quag7]

The exact same thing could be said about people who live in environments where criminals use guns to commit violent acts.

My point is we can't make rules on the standard of that subjective situation either.

And as I support your right and anyone's right not to own a gun, it isn't me who is suggesting some kind of procrustean rule for the world - in the absence of univeral consensus, I say, choice is always the best option:

Own a gun, or don't, but stay out of my affairs.

[bigveasy]

OOOWIOOOOOO. What crawled up your batty?

I won't be meddling in your affairs any time soon, I'm ineligible to vote in the US.

Now we've got that little bone of contention out of our way, let's deal some real. Choice to carry a personal weapon or not is just that, but the fact that the choice exists means we aren't sitting in middle ground - it means guns /are/ available. The fact that they are so widely and easily available gives rise to, as you say, criminals committing violent acts.

[bigveasy]

I think that it is this wholesale, widespread availability of firearms (and the inextricable link to gun crime) that brings your paranoia up to fever pitch. It is precisely because of the 'Pro Choice' stance that you feel the need to arm yourself to the teeth and lie in wait for any gun toting bum foolish enough to saunter onto your property.

We are talking cause and effect here, and I don't think we're seeing eye to eye.

[Quag7]

Availability of guns has an effect on illegal acts like the availability of cars has an effect on car crashes.

For all your talk of "reasonable debate" you're accusing me of paranoia which is, apparently, at "fever pitch," where I am, apparently, "armed to the teeth," "ly(ing) in wait" and so on.

Turn off your television set - the only one being unreasonable here is you with your cheap, cartoonish - and laughable - stereotypes.

[adamkajones]

Ever notice how hundreds, if not thousands, of guns are sold everyday yet every year the violent crime rate decreases? So your theory that gun availability is the cause of crime is clearly flawed to the point of being completely invalid. Extrapolating this simple fact, it's obvious that guns REDUCE crime, not proliferate it.

[italianppf2]

true that!

[TheOz91]

Americans don't generally use guns to kill people. They use it for sporting purposes and self defense. Hate to break it to you, but you're a complete dumbass.

[promontorium]

The one I've seen the most in movies is the gun slid back, and the actor still acting like their's bullets, and often enough, they do get some more shots off without any reloading.

[IMPULSIVE27]

DAMNNN THATS SOO TRUEEabout the cocking of a gun when thier in a situation?!?!?!? LOL damnn everything yu said is so true AND ABOUT THE NEVER LOADING thing haha soo true they shoot like 50 shots from a 9mm? lol NICE VID

[alexchiem2]

You know in the movie, they could use double action 1911s. ---just saying there are double action 1911s

[smilingjacko90]

gotta give it to the americans, they know there killing devices

[goodtimez0]

True, however, Americans don't suck at grammar.

[tecna64]

i guess thats what brought us to the map aintit...and the anti americans that come along with the nation

[Quag7]

Gotta give it to the Americans - we can own tools and actually treat them with respect and not use them to kill.

Gotta give it to the Americans - in this way at least, our government doesn't treat us like children.

Gotta give it to the Americans - most of us don't get hysterical ideas about weapons from television and movies and imbue inanimate objects with supernatural powers.

Gotta give it to the Americans - we recognize the right of the individual to defend themselves.

[EnzoF660]

3:40 is not necessarily true. Normally, it is an indication, but not necessarily if you have a very clever gun man. This is one of the reasons the final shoot out in the move "Deja Vu" is my favorite. Denzel comes out with his gun tilted downward while the slide is locked back only to fool the gunman. Then when he's distracted he hits the slide release and takes the one shot he needs.

Otherwise, everything else was pretty right on.

[OrbitalMechanics]

3:58 - 4:04 mentions this possibility. Thanks for watching.

[EnzoF660]

mm, I guess it does. Didn't think of it along the same lines when i watched it, though. Oh well

[plyschbyxa1337]

If that wont work, cock the gun to show him that you hmean serious buissnes. You never intend to shoot a suspect on site everytime...

and cmon, how fun would an actionmove be if they just keep reloading all the time :)

[plyschbyxa1337]

This person clearly are not familliar with the patrol and VCP / CP rutines.. Its also used in the same way by the police.

When faced with a threat you always use the force necessary to sort it out, for example a drunk bad guy that just yells stupid words at you never need a gun to be taken out. If for some reason the assailiant pulls up a knife, you reach for your personal arm and tells him to back the fuck off.

[deathhoundpack]

another thing is when people fire a shotgun with 1 hand and cocking it by jabbing it upside down...WTF!

[josueguzman602]

nice 1911

[uberpaintballer]

a lot of the time it is the loose parts and things clattering arount when they take the guns out

[nappyharedazn]

Umm . . . what loose parts? Firearms usually don't have loose parts. Go back to your paintball guns lol.

[Americanbeast14]

@nappyharedazn Thompson SMG... rattles everywhere

[lti12]

Because Hollywood if filled with Homosexuals

[fronke250]

dam rite

[JosephdeMaistre]

queers don't know anything about guns

[dylanofwomen]

no not gay people but rich jews.

[craigdamage]

"Way of the Gun" and "Heat" are 100% technically perfect as best as I can tell. Of course,those two films are meant to be gritty and realistic.

A film like "Miller's Crossing" has many firearm flaws but that whole movie has a surrealistic and more "artsy" atmosphere to it and I don't mind that it isn't realistic.

[OrbitalMechanics]

HEAT is definitely on my top 10 list, a great movie for sure. Righteous Kill, another movie with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino, is coming out soon... we'll see how it turns out =)

[PedrofromHell]

I watched "Shoot 'em up" recently. It's a textbook example of a Hollywood firearm myth-fed movie. There's a scene in which he kills teh bad guy by holding three bullets in between his fingers, close to a fire... Need I say more?

Great video by the way.

[promontorium]

Shootem up was everything awesome about Hollywood action films, done in a very hilarious way. It may have had some-infinite errors, but it also has one of the best lines, "Your trigger finger is the only safety you need." Also, I've come to realize most people never got that a movie called "Shoot 'em Up" was intended to be a satire. Seriously, look at all the reviews, they compare it against movies like diehard, when it should be compared against movies like Scary Movie.

[JASOND198326]

@OrbitalMechanics not much in the way of gun play but Gran Torino was a great film. Clint Eastwood was very comfortable wielding and M1 Garand . Clint was a swim instructor in the army during the korean war.

[AlexYZ06]

Awesome video man these things always bugged me too! Your other videos are great too, keep it up!

[Wendigo244]

Good Video Man, People don't know the reality keep educating the masses.

[JeepWarthog]

Also..wait until you see "WANTED" the movie. Now that you can have a soapbox on as well. Curving the bullet? Angelina Jolie firing a shotgun like in Mr. Mrs. Smith but with the recoil of a .22

[JeepWarthog]

Condition 1 all the way.

[jonsairsoft]

Like a zombie movie the zombies break through the main guy cocks his shotgun oh and in terminator 1 reese loads his shotgun 4 times before shooting