Its drivetrain is rwd, like the supra! and its not just a subaru engine. its the boxer engine with toyotas D4-S direct and port injection system. Plus toyota is already considering maker a supercharged version creating 250+hp. The car is bitchin, so quit arguing and bask in it glory! hahah
To those of you that are bickering its a Toyota 86 in japan, scion FR-S in america and Subaru BRZ in both places. Don't say its just a celica, because then you sound stupid. This car was based off the AE-86, hence the japenese 86 name. But its most like a combo of supra and celica in modern terms. Seeing as it has output of 200hp at 7000rpm, where as the celica gt-s from 2005 was 180hp @ 7600 rpm. Torque is around 150 and 130 respectively. But the drivetrain is completely different!
wow, bickerin like a couple old ladies. the fr-s and gt-86 differences are extremely subtle. gt-86 has fog lights where the fr-s doesnt. and the interior in the gt-86 has red trim on the steering wheel and emergency brake. between the subaru brz and the toyota/scion. the subaru has different front and rear bumpers. and a different rear trunk lid. other than that. its all badges.
@turbo311 Alrighty dumbass, if you know more about these cars, you should know the Subaru BRZ has a few body differences. THis here is a TOYOTA/SCION. Know your shit stupid shit
@hondatrx250cc What are you talking about? This isn't a "REENCARNAION OF THE COROLLA AE-82 (AE86) TWIN CAM drift machine". The AE86 is a legend, this car hasn't even made it out to the show room floor. Not to mention it has no lineage to the AE86, this thing doesn't even have a proper engine. It's a subaru with a toyota badge.. oh wait you probably didn't get that. Why are you talking about power?? I don't care how much power a car can make in stock form.. That's what modifications are for.. -_-
sounds like alot of understeer there for what its doing, even during throttle lift. if thats indicative of the production version i can envisage ALOT of people swapping to slightly stickier tires on the front compared to the back.
Sounds like a boxer engine with an equal length header. I like it! Hopefully it wont be cheap enough that a lot of young people buy them, wreck em and make insuring one expensive for every age bracket.
Heard they wanted this FR-S to be a drifter type car. Look for a lot of cheap stuff! No leather seats; no nice console like in carbon fiber, alumium, brush steel, etc.. Only plastic like that of the first year or two Camaro; junky looking inside. Motor is suppose to be a 2.0 liter that cracks out around 200 hp. In a 6 spd trans - 0-60 somewhere between 6 -8 seconds. Auto 9-10 seconds.
@HW2800 Really? They have been hyping it for 3 years and they plan to make it junk on purpose? Scion is trying to create a flagship car. Being Scion, it won't be amazing, but it will be solid.
@HW2800 there are a lot of expensive sportscars. they want to make a affordable sportscar. i just hope they do a ~350hp-version. the acceleration is good, i heard about 6 seconds (who choses auto?). but the top speed of ~230kph / ~145mph is too low for me. i hate too be forced to leave the left lane because im "only" driving 200-220 :-/
@IllegalsLeave I read somewhere that the reason they wouldn't add turbo is that they wanted this car to be more like the AE86. Four cylinders, lightweight and naturally aspirated.
@IllegalsLeave Turbos are expensive, and the SUVs your thinking about are likely to be turbo-diesel which have turbos to keep them on-par with their petrol equivalents.
I'm as excited as anyone else about this car but I often wonder...
Why am I so excited about a rwd car priced in the high 20k range with 250hp when I can have a rwd car priced in the high 20k range NOW with 333hp (370Z)?
@liuping999 I agree that this car will almost definitely have better tuning potential than a 370Z given it's geometry, dimensions, and what we anticipate about the chassis tuning. But I think we forget what an amazing deal the Z is out of the box.
Saying that this has more potential is like saying a spoon civic has more potential than a Z, which is probably does.
they say following launch a turbo version with 230 hp willbe available. sounds alot better then the 170. still the power:weight is gonna make this thing fun to drive
trolololo lo lo lolo!
ivanysilvina 3 weeks ago
the bird chirping at 0:39 was pure disney.
phatal999 1 month ago
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hmtipu05 1 month ago
Those tyres are too fucking thin!!!
Laitharex 2 months ago
Its drivetrain is rwd, like the supra! and its not just a subaru engine. its the boxer engine with toyotas D4-S direct and port injection system. Plus toyota is already considering maker a supercharged version creating 250+hp. The car is bitchin, so quit arguing and bask in it glory! hahah
supergorgeous2010 2 months ago
To those of you that are bickering its a Toyota 86 in japan, scion FR-S in america and Subaru BRZ in both places. Don't say its just a celica, because then you sound stupid. This car was based off the AE-86, hence the japenese 86 name. But its most like a combo of supra and celica in modern terms. Seeing as it has output of 200hp at 7000rpm, where as the celica gt-s from 2005 was 180hp @ 7600 rpm. Torque is around 150 and 130 respectively. But the drivetrain is completely different!
supergorgeous2010 2 months ago
wow, bickerin like a couple old ladies. the fr-s and gt-86 differences are extremely subtle. gt-86 has fog lights where the fr-s doesnt. and the interior in the gt-86 has red trim on the steering wheel and emergency brake. between the subaru brz and the toyota/scion. the subaru has different front and rear bumpers. and a different rear trunk lid. other than that. its all badges.
sitler5tuner 2 months ago
ITS SCION, NOT SUBARUUUUUu
LanEvo21 2 months ago
@LanEvo21 It's both dumbass.
turbo311 2 months ago
@turbo311 Alrighty dumbass, if you know more about these cars, you should know the Subaru BRZ has a few body differences. THis here is a TOYOTA/SCION. Know your shit stupid shit
LanEvo21 2 months ago
@LanEvo21 Ok then if you're so in the know tell me exactly what these differences are besides the color combos and badges?
turbo311 2 months ago
are u retarded thats a genesis LOLO
BremboGaming 2 months ago
I would've like to see some resemblance to the supra ae86 or celica but what it looks like is an integra
Toki740 2 months ago
REENCARNATION OF THE COROLLA AE-86 TWIN CAM drift machine
hondatrx250cc 3 months ago
@hondatrx250cc no... just no.. don't disgrace the name of the AE86.
UOYtaLOL 3 months ago
@UOYtaLOL why? the ae 86 is great but no match for that, now has more sentimental value than anything
please dont start saying that you know one that puts out 600hp.. STOCK only that
hondatrx250cc 2 months ago
@hondatrx250cc What are you talking about? This isn't a "REENCARNAION OF THE COROLLA AE-82 (AE86) TWIN CAM drift machine". The AE86 is a legend, this car hasn't even made it out to the show room floor. Not to mention it has no lineage to the AE86, this thing doesn't even have a proper engine. It's a subaru with a toyota badge.. oh wait you probably didn't get that. Why are you talking about power?? I don't care how much power a car can make in stock form.. That's what modifications are for.. -_-
UOYtaLOL 2 months ago
REENCARNATION OF THE COROLLA AE-82 TWIN CAM drift machine
hondatrx250cc 3 months ago
@grizzlysniperz It actually is a Subaru, the BRZ to be exact, I think release is gonna b in 2013
spikes252 3 months ago
@spikes252 Its a Toyota Fr-s. Over in the states, it is a SCION FR-S. No where will it be a Subaru -_-
LanEvo21 2 months ago
@LanEvo21 Are you stupid? It's all three. Toyota GT-86 actually, Scion FR-S, and yes Subaru BRZ.
turbo311 2 months ago
its a toyota ft86 not a fuking subaru new coupe hasnt been revealed subaru coup my ass
grizzlysniperz 3 months ago
Mini-LFA my fucking ass. Its just a Celica
plateofshrimp 3 months ago
i want to see it going sideways! just saying
jonthesniper2 4 months ago
@jonthesniper2 your gay just saying .. jk lol yeah man I want to see some ft86 drift!!
metaljar02 4 months ago
HAIL!!! :D:D:D
I hope ist going to be as good as Celica was on its time.
estcb4 4 months ago
sounds like alot of understeer there for what its doing, even during throttle lift. if thats indicative of the production version i can envisage ALOT of people swapping to slightly stickier tires on the front compared to the back.
surruk 4 months ago
@surruk As long as the understeer is predictable, I don't think it will be too much of an issue. But I acknowledge your marklars as wise and true.
v8soarer1982 3 months ago
Sounds like a boxer engine with an equal length header. I like it! Hopefully it wont be cheap enough that a lot of young people buy them, wreck em and make insuring one expensive for every age bracket.
MrKossportapro 5 months ago
Heard they wanted this FR-S to be a drifter type car. Look for a lot of cheap stuff! No leather seats; no nice console like in carbon fiber, alumium, brush steel, etc.. Only plastic like that of the first year or two Camaro; junky looking inside. Motor is suppose to be a 2.0 liter that cracks out around 200 hp. In a 6 spd trans - 0-60 somewhere between 6 -8 seconds. Auto 9-10 seconds.
HW2800 5 months ago
@HW2800 they are planning to make a turbo version to.
subarufan14 5 months ago
@HW2800 Really? They have been hyping it for 3 years and they plan to make it junk on purpose? Scion is trying to create a flagship car. Being Scion, it won't be amazing, but it will be solid.
22kmclaren 4 months ago
@HW2800 there are a lot of expensive sportscars. they want to make a affordable sportscar. i just hope they do a ~350hp-version. the acceleration is good, i heard about 6 seconds (who choses auto?). but the top speed of ~230kph / ~145mph is too low for me. i hate too be forced to leave the left lane because im "only" driving 200-220 :-/
MuellerSebastian92 4 months ago
@IllegalsLeave I read somewhere that the reason they wouldn't add turbo is that they wanted this car to be more like the AE86. Four cylinders, lightweight and naturally aspirated.
FoulPlayFoundations 5 months ago
its scion fr-s
MazdaH4wk 6 months ago
@IllegalsLeave Hmm, apparently the reason they won't do turbocharging is because they don't want to.
BobUy00 6 months ago
@IllegalsLeave Turbos are expensive, and the SUVs your thinking about are likely to be turbo-diesel which have turbos to keep them on-par with their petrol equivalents.
BobUy00 6 months ago
thanks definitely best vid of the ft86
hamsupjai86 6 months ago
sounds more like and awd rather than rwd...
TCreatorO 6 months ago
Aren't they putting the subaru boxter in this?
thewizardofaz 6 months ago
how do know that it is subaru
SashaTessa 7 months ago
not even on sale yet and it alreadt has a club!? WHOO! GO FT86!
Sasori327 7 months ago
this as well as the concept RA (mitsubishi) are the 2 most exciting concepts that im looking forward to, cant wait yo!
Sasori327 7 months ago
I'm as excited as anyone else about this car but I often wonder...
Why am I so excited about a rwd car priced in the high 20k range with 250hp when I can have a rwd car priced in the high 20k range NOW with 333hp (370Z)?
mpalm887 7 months ago
@mpalm887 lower center of gravity? :D you'll be able to push the limits even further!
liuping999 7 months ago
@liuping999 I agree that this car will almost definitely have better tuning potential than a 370Z given it's geometry, dimensions, and what we anticipate about the chassis tuning. But I think we forget what an amazing deal the Z is out of the box.
Saying that this has more potential is like saying a spoon civic has more potential than a Z, which is probably does.
mpalm887 7 months ago
Wheels need to be pushed out an inch on either side. Seems to be carrying speed very well through the corners.
This will be awesome fun until Mazda has their new RX car ready.
mpalm887 7 months ago
still tho i cant wait to do some exhaust piping on this and hear that boxer growl
realitytev 7 months ago
they say following launch a turbo version with 230 hp willbe available. sounds alot better then the 170. still the power:weight is gonna make this thing fun to drive
realitytev 7 months ago
My Geo Metro can eat that shit in a quarter mile..
Yongbukx 7 months ago
sounds good pulling out on to the road.. can't wait for the production version and the after market gooodies ;) ilovedrivingslow. org
aceasarsalad 8 months ago
it's official:
2.0L NA boxer engine, 170~180 hp
1300 kg
keykikoo 8 months ago
@keykikoo I hope not. That is too heavy and not enough power :(
Husoku 7 months ago
let's see it drift?? thumbs up??
JoseEVOix 8 months ago
the first legit scion :p
DeltaZax 8 months ago
曲がりっ端が速くてロールする前に向き変わってる感じ。
ChickenCurry66 8 months ago
looks like a hoot to drive! interesting that they chose to make it a scion.
beautyinmetal 8 months ago
Subaru's AWD transmission wont fit in the engine bay. That's already been established.
And any car can screech it's wheels. From my FWD hatchback to a RWD Ferrari.
flammablewater 8 months ago 2
@flammablewater heard it was a RWD~ also, rumours about the engine is a 2.0L H4 outputting 250 HP
XlopenX 8 months ago
STALKER!!!
jerk151810 8 months ago
Screeching wheels? could it be AWD?? OMG!!!!!!!!
ChickenCritters 8 months ago
Looks and sounds slow as shit
lolraxjimmy 8 months ago
@lolraxjimmy You said what everyone else is in denial about.
SkeksisRule 8 months ago
@SkeksisRule
I don't want it to be true, and I hate having to write it. I am a huge Subaru fan, but this is just watered down trash.
lolraxjimmy 8 months ago
Jalopnik brought me here!!!!
vpcmotorsport 8 months ago 2
nice. can't wait for more details.
JustAn0therNumb3r 8 months ago
FRS: "And back to the real world" :3
*Stuck behind a slow BMW driven by a yuppie*
FRS "FUUU" :<
nagasako7 8 months ago 22
@nagasako7 It's a rental car by Europcar hrhr
mbSteak 1 month ago
powered by a na subaru engine this should be able to beat the zr1 around the ring.
8200rpm 8 months ago
doesn't look that lightweight when cornering.... anyway, the final should have good feeling when driving....
mariozlp 8 months ago
Holy shit that shit is bigger than the m3
niark978 8 months ago
wow it sounds like crap
emp2tg 8 months ago
All hail the mini LFA
CMFfromPR 8 months ago 70
@CMFfromPR thats the only thing keeping me optimistic about this car
benkenobi1990 3 months ago
awesome....
clanteh 8 months ago
mmmm =p
Rockstar110Percent 8 months ago