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  • "You need a projector." What a joke..

  • Thanks for posting - great to preserve old memories which get more valuable with each passing year

  • Oh man, don't shoot it off a screen. You get all the blur and strobing. These films actually look amazing with a good HD transfer. You can transfer them at "HD Home Movies" where they transfer them frame by frame and then compile the still images into a moving image. No motion blur or strobing!

  • Don't forget, if you are an oldie like me, our dads in the early 60's had 8 mm (like Steven Spielburg used as a kid), NOT the super 8 that came out later (Super 8 had smaller sprocket holes and bigger image area than did 8 mm). Your process would work for either. Any old 8 mm not transferred by now is in bad shape, I'd guess. To change the subject, I hear about the old "8-track" players in cars before cassettes; but how many remember the older incompatible 4-tracks?

  • So I made​it,

    a lot of work but fun

  • Impressive, how did you reduce the flicker in the final results?

  • Looks like your video turned out really good. I have tried to do the same but get "film flicker". I assume it is because of the difference of the frame rate vs frame rate. Your film transfer didn't look like it had any "flicker" in it. Is there some tip or trick you use to reduce or eliminate that? Or is it something on the mac? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Thanks !

  • Good video. It's also important to note that you should keep the screen and camera at the same height and keep the camera and projector close together to minimize parallax (distortion).

    BTW, have you compared the quality of this form of conversion with a professional job?

  • @Aquanaut240 Professional job will definitely produce crisper results. But depending on your projector and the quality of the Camera you use to capture the footage, you can get pretty close.

    If you're talking Theatre transfer, like what the Criterion Collection does, that's a far different story. Criterion uses special telecine equipment to scan, clean, and rebuild each frame. But this is for old and damaged 35mm Master prints, not your home movies. :)

  • @khnatiuk or just point and focus the white frame into the lens directly from another lens (the projector)

  • @khnatiuk My camcorder records onto a small DVD disk as opposed to a film. Would I still download the disk onto my computer? I understand there is a machine that can be purchased where the super 8 movie is run through that directly onto a DVD> Do you know anything about them? Is that system better? Probably easier?

  • Thank you for this information. My grandmother sent me an email asking if I could find a machine to convert super 8 rolls to dvd. So I did a search and came up with your upload. My grandmother is 95 96 in June. She used to do a lot of filming in the early days so we have a lot of movies to convert. Well they have no sound so we won't need the plug for audio. Once again much appreciated. Ronald Martens.

  • @ron1martens What a great project that I have no doubt your grandmother will appreciate.

    There are better transfer methods (ie. professional) but this is a way that anyone with a bit of hardware can do on their own.

    The key is using the best camera you can get your hands on to record the footage off the projector/wall and locking the focus in so your camera doesn't try to auto-focus while you're capturing footage.

    Best of luck. Feel free to post a clip once you're done so we can see. :)

  • Nice, but I don't have a Projector and a new camera, only the S8 and the PC :(

  • @bepfranco1 How much Super 8 do you have ? I do this all the time for the Videos on my channel, and could do it for you for A small price. I have been workng with film and video since about 1984. So I know what I am doing, I might even be able to go to blue ray, let me know and check out some of the movies on my channel, Luke at Hbvideos

  • Preciso de um projetor urgente! :o(

  • ;)

  • 2:58 YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!

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  • Very simple idea but you do risk destroying the film for good, I've seen this happen, the sprockets on the projector can tear the film, especially if the film hasn't been stored very well or has been sitting around a long time and then it's either ruined or costs even more to transfer. Take your film to a professional and get it done right the first time. you can visit VideoStations website in New Zealand for no obligation advice.

  • thanx for the idea!

  • Just put your eyeball up to the projector screen and lip synch all the audio. Cheap and easy.

  • What camera would you recommend for this? What video camera will work with a mac? Thanks!

  • Transfer your home movies to DVD for *convenience* in viewing and/or for making copies for yourself and relatives - NOT for "preservation". What Digital Dad says in the beginning of this (about the films becoming "dried out" and unviewable) is just basically bullshit - and it's the main misleading "sell" that companies who transfer for profit like to use. By this time, the mass public has heard it so often they believe it's true. It's NOT. And don't >ever< discard the original films.

  • @Onneff69 Yep.

    I will always try to digitize something for the purpose of having it as a backup, but never get rid of the original.

  • Did this come out on dvd?

    

  • I'd like to do something like that. 

  • Money shouldn't really be an object. Its your childhood. Any viewers from the uk there are adds on ebay for £5.99 per hour of film. Cost me about 60 quid for the lot but totally worth it.

  • This is great! mine came perfect! Make sure you put your Video Camcorder in 12 BIT mode!! Then it won't flicker!!! Mine was in 16 BIT first then I changed it and it worked!! Thank you so much!! Saved me tons of money and I have all of my home movies on the computer and DVD!!!

  • I dont see why people are badmouthing this video. OK, the quality isnt going to be perfect, but its very cheap. Plus, this was the way they did it when video began.

  • walgreens will transfer 8mm, super 8 and 16mm to dvd for 25.00 per 100 feet and 0.18 cents for each foot after that

  • Well done Kevin, thank you!

  • To all the people who have criticised transferring them this way... well some people have no other choice. It is going to cost my mum $2k + to get all hers done over here in Australia. We can save the $2k by dong it this way and she can use the money to get the guttering fixed on her house.

    For those with low incomes this is the only way they can preserve those old memories!

  • @smokeyyunickk Agreed and I'll add it is better than letting them rot in a closet somewhere!!

  • I really, really, really do not understand why there isn't a scanner for this shit yet.

  • @Zebonka I agree, although scanning frame by frame would take long time to do. (A very long time!)

  • Well, time I've got ... !

  • gay

  • it's like putting the camcorder up to the television set and recording a program that way.. This isn't the way to record images on to the computer, it needs to be done with professional equipment......

  • it's like putting the camcorder up to the television set and recording a program that way.. This isn't the way to record images on to the computer, it needs to be done with professional equipment......

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  • I want to convert super 8 to IMAX...

  • There are a lot of professional companies, like Got Memories and iMemories, that offer frame-by-frame flicker free film scanning to DVD or uncompressed avi for very reasonable prices now. The hardware they use is less expensive and due to advances in technology, just as good or better than a Cintel unit form a couple of years ago.

  • does this method take away from the quality of the film? I'd like to know why using professionals is so expensive.

  • It all depends on the quality of the equipment used. At the high end you have Rank Cintel, (very expensive) footage is scanned and is flickerless.

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  • This is a great demo and perfect for the DIY person. I started doing transfers in much the same way myself years ago. Over the years I have kind of perfected my capacity. I put a sample of super 8 in your video response.

  • dood, if u don't have the projector, it would be cheaper to have a proffessional convert it.

  • I agree 100%! If you have the projector, I'm sure the kids will enjoy more using it! DVD conversion sux when it comes to watching it. But I agree you need to do it in order to preserve the movie. I wish I could transfer from DVD to Super 8 (or 16mm) and do a real home theater!

  • ive just watched an interview with guy maddin & he said he shot 'my winnipeg' on HD video but it didnt look right so he projected the video onto his fridge & re shot it in 16mm!

  • it is simple. put your super 8 camera on a tripod, run the dvd on a lcd or plasma movie and start recording it :-P

  • Because as he said in the beginning the film goes dry and one day it will just brake apart in your hands. Its for preservation.

  • you can just go to cvs lol

  • Thanks. I have a bunch of reels from the 40's of my dad as a kid. This is going to be a good project!

  • I seen one professional machine you hook up to the computer that can play, capture and record the footage onto the PC all in one go. But, unless you have 9 thousand bucks to spare, it's probably not going to be an option....

  • what!! this sucks

  • agreed. and if you actually do it use a professional dv (sony pd 170 / vx2100) or hd camera (sony ex1) which are much better in low light than the small consumer cams.

    anyway, disappointing video.

  • that sucks,,,really,,,i mean it---sucks. Very DIY, Have you ever heard of Telecine? Go to some professional post house to get better quality...Althgouh it's super 8mm, it's still film, old Kodak amazing films.

  • is there a better to convert film to digital?

  • whoa, spaztastic kids

  • this is kinda stupid,at least not the ebst way

  • haha little boy on the couch lol

    anyway, thanks for the tip lol

  • How many minutes does a 50ft film last?

  • i know about 30 ft lasts 1:50 one minute and 50 seconds

  • This is the cheapest way to transfer, but, as others commented, not the best. Companies that transfer film sometimes use the same method, but the projector has a 5-blade shutter which reduces flicker (since it corrects for the frame rate difference between film and video). Companies that transfer with a digital scanner are the most expensive, but the best way to go.

  • haha thats a typical "im a mac book ejecting a dvd" noise

  • yeah right!!

    it's as simple as that lol

  • This is the ABSOLUTE WORST WAY to transfer ANY KIND of medium. DO NOT listen to this video, take it to the lab. GEESH!

  • cant beleive this was on CBC

  • Don't be so over dramatic, there are worse ways of doing it.

  • This is the worst way to transfer film and it isn't as costly as he states it is. The price can start as low as 12 cents a foot. Look for a professional that states they do frame by frame scanning or use telecine machines. They aslo have to clean the film prior to transfering and once it's transfered they have to color correct the film (cleaning & color correction are usually standard procedure & included in the price).

  • I did this procedure a few years ago, it works fine, but: When videoing the footage from the wall or a screen, you also want to make sure the auto focus on your camcorder is off. With auto focus on, your video camera will be trying to adjust to the light changes, in-turn blurring footage.

  • $30 to $50 a reel is not true if you do your research.

  • There is the problem of flicker because of the frame change, the 8mm is usually 16-18 fps. If your camera has a shutter speed adjusting this along with varying the projector speed can fix it most of the time. My biggest problem was it would go along nice and then the old film would break, you need a lot of patience to do this, also try to get the sharpest focus on the projector.

  • My father had some silent films from the 50s transferred to VHS back in the late 80s when VHS was still relatively new, so there won't be much work for us to transfer to DVD. As for me we used videotape from the beginning - we had a camera that you had to hook up to a big portable VHS VCR to record. In those days some people still used Super 8 and 8-mm tape was just starting to come on the market.

  • A high quality mirror box & matte screen should be used, but with the right equipment take an image of every frame on the film, enhance & clean each frame, and software to synchronise the result which is perfect. Chemical film is theoretically of superior resolution and quality to digital. In fact it is more akin, resolution wise to HD video -arguably only 'just' matches 35 mm film quality today. Don't lose those reels until you can get them cleaned, frame by frame & converted to 1080p 24fps.

  • This is a low quality way to transfer your film.

  • If you have a good editing program, you can fix it in the computer.

  • another good way to transfer home cine films to dvd is to go threw professional companies Search google for some.

  • Wish my family had had home movies. All we have a slides. Maybe I can make a DVD out of a reel of slides some day, and bore the crap out of everyone I know with what I got for Christmas when I was 5. :D

  • Cutre.

  • I tried this, but my recorded video image has a bad "flicker" to it. Any way to get rid of that?

  • This sometimes happens (but now always) if the film speed on your projector (24 frames/sec) is different than your Camcorder's frame speed (usually 29.97 frames/sec). See if you can adjust the speed on your projector or Camcorder - often this is enough to remove the flicker OR you may need to specifically rent or borrow a camcorder that does a mode called "24p."

  • @khnatiuk

    I have just worked out that if you take off ' hand shaking mode' on camcorder it stopped the flickering when recording from super 8 films on projector

  • @Dimension150 there is probably a dial on the projector that alters the film speed a little. Play around with that and you should be able to get rid of the flicker.

  • Yes. Pay the money and hire a professional to do it.

  • @Dimension150 Tray 15 fps or like said below use 24p mode, worked for me.

  • great vid

  • there is a much better way to do this, don't get me wrong, this is ONE way to do it. If you buy somthing called a "telecine" machine off ebay or wherever, it can take the video off the projector and display an exact copy of it on a small screen on the side, you simply set up a camcorder, or better (in my opinion) connect the camcorder to mac or pc via firewire and capture from the computer without recording on your camcorder.

  • I did this, but didn't need the line-in as the older reels didn't even have sound. I did capture the sounds of projector though, which added a cool touch to the DVD (I added narration and music too)

  • what a good way of converting old 8mm ive got box full of 8mm

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