Either create something new or stay complicit. Eventhough you/I have no say in how the debt is created, we are responsible for paying it. We are Constitutors and according to the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution we can't even question it without repercussions.
As a United States Citizen you/we are responsible for the debt. Feel like the Gov't is out of control? Feel like you're being taxed without representation? Don't consent to what is going down? Expatriate. Do what the "Forefathers" did, they created their own system. They broke away and created their own thing. Now that thing has mutated and we must create our own thing. The thing the "Forefathers" created isn't ours, so we cannot change it. We must create our own. The blueprint is ther
War is coming, they won't just let the financial system crash and give up their world dominance. The western world have rapped the rest of the world for years and now we are seeing other countries with vast populations say no, hence why America and the western world are being"re adjusted" in line with the rest of the worlds living standards, I leave it up to you to decide if the powers that be will go quietly. Survival of fittest? Limited Food sources? WAR comes before Famine you know.
Evolution is a lie too. Funny how so many people accept this as absolute truth. Just like so many have planks in their eyes about the value of government and that it is for the good of the people....sure it is....
@qedisk: So not only is the entirety of academic evidence on the subject wrong, but it's also been the intention of the scientific community to have us believe this giant falsehood for a century and a half?
@OpqHMg No. Only I cannot post any normal links in youtube chat. There is a LOT of suppressed knowledge about evolution and creationism of course is not true, because when something (the classical point of view on evolution) has only one stupid opponent (creationism), it's not enough to be validate by it.
@qedisk it is very obvious that you are ignorant of phylogeny. a german shepherd is a type of dog. there are many different types of dogs, and a german shepherd is one type of dog. a human is a type of ape, there are many types of apes and a human is one type of ape. not only did humans evolve from other ape ancestors, we never evolved so much as to not be still correctly classified as apes.
@anon3560 which creates jobs. Jobs at home dont leave us deep in debt to foriegn central exchange banks. We have got to start producing our own needs. We cannot keep importing far more than we export, and ever expect to get ahead.
@anon3560 While at the same time it takes jobs away at home. Raising the debt ceiling means we will issue more treasury notes and bonds, and go deeper into debt to foriegn central banks. Waiting for politicians to make balanced trade agreements doesnt seem to be working so well. So what we can do on a grass root level, is to buy USA made products as much as possiable, to create a demand for them,
@anon3560 Not quite. We import far more than we export. Most everything we buy is foriegn made. Since the US has a debt bassed currency, fiat, from fractional reserve banking. The debt is owed to foriegn central banks. They carry our dollar via bonds and treasury notes. This finances our national debt, and wars abroad from borrowing. This exploitation allows the US to purchase up the world's resources, labor, products, and companies, for a debt that will never be paid.
Why not just stop the senseless war? Sounds to me like a great ting to not fund in order to save money. Instead they would rather take from the people who have the least often times. Many people on social security, disability literally live from month to month and have nothing left to save. Withholding even a single check would be a disaster. Why take from those who have nothing?
@anon3560 furthermore increasing national debt only represents a circulation thats depleting at a far greater rate of any of the national debt injections ,,logic & basic 2nd grade math proves this alone.We suffer from endless Circulatory deflation by the banking obfuscation of our own promissory obligations to each & also suffer the manifestation of price inflation which is primarily caused by interest charged by commercial banks.Interest that was never created nor issued into circulation.
@anon3560 Basically I'm saying there is no loan from the word GO rather a commitment to create & retire a obligation ,what currency thats in the circulation only represents an unequal fraudulent exchange of value which is evidence of our own promissory obligations to each other .To loan money is to establish money existed prior to that loan, NO money ever existed until one of us walks into a bank & signs a promissory obligation .We are the true creditors & we create money, All banks are thieves.
I don't agree with everything, but it's nice to see people actually openly discussing Anarcho-Capitalism. It bring's the warm and fuzzies into my cold black heart.
@ around 17:00 minutes, they talk about how a grandma would never directly steal from their kids and all that.
I think that is what Government does, it creates a disassociation between cause and effect, plus the lag time of laws passed.. so it really throws people off unless they can actually look at a picture and see it.
its really very simple:: to talk about americas debt and not disuss doing something about the federal reserve and the central banking system as well as wallstreet will NEVER get anyone anywhere,,its completely pointless.
the united states should not be paying interest to anyone, it should not be borrowing money from anyone.
the americn people need to wake up and they need to do it now
@GuildF40 oh hi guildy lol i'm glad there are plenty of people not drinking the coolaid. and i'm heavily depressed that i had to sell my silver... i hope i get a job again and am able to buy back into it soon.
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors, not from any actual profit earned by the organization,but from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors.
Do banks invest theyre own money in this purported pozi scheme.Do banks loan theyre own money or offer,risk anything that has consideration of value in a purported loan.What then justifies interest if banks merely cover the cost of publishing evidence of our own promissory obligations.
@doesthismakeanysense They know to well people love to buy & swallow imaginary delusions even those who deem themselves to be awake for they fail at even looking up a simple definition .These Chinese's whispers of a purported posi scheme is somehow now endorsed by many to explain how the monetary system works which couldnt be any further from the truth,rather this auto parroting of untruths divides us further & those who do parrot this dogma is only evidence they themselves havent a clue really.
"In the future, interest rates will be lower..."? And what is that supposed to be pertaining to? Interest rates are already negative when you consider rates of inflation. I love how these parasites suggest robbing savers is a good thing.
@anon3560 Def YES A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors, not from any actual profit earned by the organization,but from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors.
Indeed these guys have NO IDEA for there is no debt or loan to start with rather a theft of circulation on conception creation of money thus one is lost in preposterous Austrian illogical dogmas thats distracting ones own self of the root cause of monetary destruction.
All national debt represents what has already been STOLEN out of circulation over the years via your own personal loans.This sum of money laundered now as national debt consisted of principal only for interest IS never created not before the fraudulent exchange,not even by expansion.To say interest is affordable at any rate is illogical because charged interest by any bank can only deplete the principal that only exists in circulation.There is a solution but hey most cant even do the basic math
@JPMorganMustDie Super Congress is the term they chose because they can trump the actual congress to push whatever legislation is desired. Its actually thirteen people in this group with number 13 being the person in charge of it. To be in this group, you have to be approved, and you have to be for globalism and doing what your told.
What is a good/ reasonable response to the statement, "Ron Paul is the controlled opposition we are presented with to give the slight appearance of balance in the rhetoric that we are propagandized by." ? If anyone can answer this I (and others like me) will maybe support Ron Paul more as there does not seem much point otherwise, apologies for the cynicism.
@aghoranathi He is not "controlled opposition" as he is actually converting a lot of people away from the elite of both parties. I'm sure he truly believes everything he says, it is just that in these times of increased insanity, people are starting to notice the one man who still seems to have a brain, otherwise nobody would have care about him. You'd have a better argument calling someone like Ronald Reagan controlled opposition as he was a fraud.
@tridentmovies Thnx Bro, I appreciate your responses, I have found some hope listening to Dan Hanning on utub, he is an MEP for somewhere in Britannia, not sure what that is/ means but trust me he is a true word smith, he derides the EU in all it's failed inadequacy. Please let me know if you decide to check him out as i will be completely stoked :) laters brah, chur, reg.
As far as there being a point to support Ron Paul. You can support him for his ideas and the fact that he is educating a lot of people who are still open minded enough not to swallow propaganda. But there isn't any point in voting for him enough that he gets in the white house, because he would be a lone rogue without congressional support whatsoever, and is just doomed to fail. Even if he would succeed, it's just temporary, because there is nobody else like Ron Paul in politics.
All of the smoke and mirror debt / deficit theater was to create this new unconstitutional concentration of power. It looks like that was the real goal.
@MarkProffitt The goal of any company is to grow. The difference between government and other businesses is that the government has a monopoly on the use of force. It's ok for them to twist arms, kill, steal, ect. It should be no surprise what happens.
very interesting. I write and direct a dramatic show Downsized on my channel about the economic crisis so I've been watching lots of videos tonight on the "debt solution" and it's so tragic for the average American.
The only one that seems to have said this before this guy, in the government, is Ron Paul. If my country is interested in preserving itself they will get behind him. He voted against all of these detrimental measures.
Could the US government ultimately invoice today's US child with an emigration 'tax bill' should he/she decide to move to Asia, for example, once they become of age and decide they want rescind their US citizenry from a country of residence standpoint ? I recently listened to some claims that US citizens travelling abroad were being boldly questioned by border agents to ensure there was absolutely no more than the allowable amount of money leaving the country. Reverse of immigration. Curious.
I would suggest everyone have an emergency stash of water and canned goods at the very least. Buy canned goods you like to eat anyway, therefore, if there is peace in the world, you can just eat the canned goods and lose nothing. The cities may become chaos central. They teeter on the brink of criminal mob rule even in the best of times.
Andrew Jackson was able to succeed. So it CAN occur again. 6 other dead presidents say the odds are 1 in 7, though. (I believe Zachary Taylor is the lone President who was not assassinated by banksters)
@Carnei - what is reason? and in what context does said "reason" enable a solution? and if it offers "something" then how does it augment or mitigate or enable other "somethings" of which there must surely exist: rarely is one idea-concept complete. eg, i can argue that economic events present greater power than "analysis," limiting debate. the govt programs creating dependence provide an economic incentive that are too powerful to be reasoned with. govt programs support a large % of people...
This is why it has to be as unbiased as possible. Because if the people, depending on the support gets blinded by that fact alone they do not wish to hear ANY of the arguments.
However, if someone would agree based on the arguments alone, they will find themselves belonging to a different ideology, that does not support the state.
@Carnei - but so many people are already co-opted: believing they are entitled to monies and benefits. also, once receiving benefits or "free stuff" it becomes hard to move out of that position (as we are creatures of habit and conditioned to act habitually).
i love the idea of analysis (logic, reason) > than any lucre the government could use to entice. but that would make us principled. and i believe "society" is less principled simply as it has lost its independence to the state.
In Australia the government is huge. Tax on the average wage is 48%. Yet our unemployment is 4%, our average wage is $24k more than the US average, and we don't have to pay for health insurance. We are #2 on the HDI chart.
I can prove that big government is good, but you can't prove that small government is good.
@dodododa It all depends on approach. However, when you have a corporate government that enjoys stealing from the middle and lower classes, big government is not a positive entity. Its thievery.
"tax on average wage is 48%" " Our average wage is 24k more than the US average"
*facepalm. I love how you fail to realize how the first point makes the second point moot. Is this even considering purchasing power (average prices, sales tax, etc) , or are you just converting the average australian wage to american dollars, and then comparing the two? Did you even do that?
"We don't have to pay for health insurance. We are #2 on the HDI chart."
Also, Australia is higher on the list of economically free countries. So its not impossible that the especially free, free market in Australia is driving economic growth there. and the government has been successful in stealing abormally high amounts of wealth, because its letting the market do its work. If anything this shows that the massive amounts of deregulation and privatization in the early 2000s worked out in the long run. :O
Gold price currently $1,653/oz. * 35 273 oz/tonne * 8,133.5 tonnes = approx. $474,000,000,000. The debt limit is $14.294 trillion so the gold reserves equal 3.3 % of the debt. Even assuming a 1/3 reduction in gold price (not happening anytime soon) the government could pay the interest on the debt for 10 months at current 5 year Fed bond interest rates. So the "deadline" is nothing of the kind.
Ron Paul can't stop the ship from sinking. That is not his role to play. His role is simply to use what attention he can get to educate as many as possible. In reality we do not really want Ron Paul to win (he honestly doesn't have a prayer) because him being at the helm as the ship sinks would be interpreted by statists everywhere as proof that freedom is evil. Stef has said this many times, as have many others.
@stefsheep Stef has told his listeners to 'not' vote for anyone. That a good portion of us fail to heed Stef's wishes and support Ron Paul anyway, disproves your implied contention that Stef is a cult leader.
@stefsheep I don't even know what the hell that means. Sounds silly, well- not as silly as thinking one old senator is "going to turn this country around" so...should I say get out of your " psuedo-patriotic-conditioned- brainwashing that the system really works " .....BOX ? LOL
A dose of reality wouldn't hurt you or the millions like you stuck in second gear.
@RenegadeTimes Hi RT. Have a look at the channel you're responding to. It's taking up some of your time to respond to an empty box.
I think you're right. Ron Paul isn't a stupid man. I'm sure he knows he wouldn't be able to do very much. It's still probably quite a good thing that he speaks quite well and to a certain extent, helps to educate lots of people, at least to some of the nastiness of gov/politicians. - cheers
@zalida100 Well thank you for the heads up about the empty box. I have never encountered that before. Perhaps my words were seen by others ...and thats satisfaction enough. Thanks again..
@RenegadeTimes Hi RT. Sometimes when a comment is a bit silly. it can be interesting to look at the channel to maybe get a clue where the comment is coming from.
I agree it's not a complete waste of your time cos other people read your comment too. Good point. - cheers
@stefsheep Ron paul will stop and or change nothing. Have you been paying attention....or what ?
13 f-ing parasites are making decisions....do you not comprehend how this is going to play out ?
One old tired senator isn't going to be able to do squat...if he was elected...he
d play ball or find himself floating in a hot tub like Matt Simmons , or plane crash as Paul Wellstone..or a ride in a convertible parade. What is it you people don't get ? Damn ~
You two are misinformed about the origins of the debt. Like children who have not grown up you want to scapegoat mommie and daddy. The debt has come from the Federal Reserves Non transparent lending to foreign countries , banks and large corporations. the USA taxpayers are footing the bill for the support of the the rich of the world. You have been hoodwinked by propaganda.
@RUBYGREENEDUFOUNDATI Easy money policy has certainly made it easy for foreign banks and corporations to borrow from the Fed, which is indirectly subsidized by Americans through higher prices (a depreciated dollar). But that is not debt, that is paid for pretty much immediately (in blood) as prices rise (or otherwise fail to fall). The debt, strictly speaking, is the direct result of the US Gov spending more than it brings in in taxes.
Seniors did not have many of the technological devices that reveal the ugly truths of government. My father worked feverishly to understand and fight injustices. He was born in 1919. He had no internet but he searched where he could and he handed that legacy to his children. No other children that I grew up with were exposed to this information through their parents. I was 12 and knew about the CFR. Crazy early but I now appreciate all he did. He knew more in 65' w/o Internet than people today
This is something to talk about.... Most citizens in the US dont know.. Union Pacific Railroad workers (i dont think this includes management or their office personnel) who belong to the Union do not pay into Social Security. They have their own system they pay into ,which im sure will be inflated away also. If you were an S (or C)corp you also dont pay into SS but you do pay a reduced state franchise tax...this only benefits self employed who have to put in full 14.5% of their income
Excuse me? CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A REVOLUTION? IM READY TO START ALL OVER....or at least I'm willing to die so that my child can start with a fresh system based on true freedom!!!!
defined as "an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed."
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definitionally, the concept seems quite innocuous. however, government (or the powers in charge) will not accept the will of the people as they have demonstrated with the implementation of TARP, various bailouts, quantitative easing, increasing the federal debt. all against popular opinion.
@qncsc Revolution...innocuous? In history, revolutions have always been deadly. Whenever citizens have decided to replace or overthrow a corrupted government, innocuity isn't an element in this process. Who gives up power easily? Also, revolution has never been about the government accepting it, it's about letting them know that WE are in charge of our freedoms....they are elected to represent us. However, that contract has been broken several times over.
@jibaritobueno - the definition reads like someone changing "shoes." so then why is revolution so violent? if a representative government is filled with people whom are elected, seek to serve the people, then they would readily join in, if the will of the people reflects interest in a new system? no?
how come the above sounds so silly? i think it is because the government representatives are similar to a murderer, who feels no remorse. fights to live his life as before. seeks no change.
@qncsc OMG!!! You have not only shown me the 500 pound gorilla in the room, but have also pointed out the fact that it's rabid and mad (as in lunatic). Most importantly, I've never thought about the symbiotic relationship that has been created between the general population, big business, and the government. You're right!!!!! Why would they readily join a revolution? This is a lot scarier than I previously imagined. WOW!!!!
@jibaritobueno - thanks! yeah, i had been pounding sand for some time, while looking at this for some time. and after pushing the problem around for so long, I had realized the various findings (i believe). great that you can see what i have written...because the other difficulty is that many who might be interested in that "revolution" are also sometimes unable to "see" the various pieces and unable to piece the pieces together.
@qncsc Certainly!!! Sometimes the various pieces need to be revealed because of the obscurity. Whoa! I have a headache now. Seriously. So, what will the solution be? Are we destined to fall like the great Roman empire? Who do we talk to? I'm confused my friend. Do we run away? Is the collapse of the US inevitable?
@jibaritobueno - re revolution. last night i came to peace with it all. (seriously). the general population desire the government as much as the politicians-banksters-elites-multinationals. they are ALL in collusion against 30-50% of the population that finds all of this abhorrent. there are just too many in the general populous co-opted, believing in a large government. and upon a new system those people would seek out a large government...again!
@jibaritobueno - the country is gone financially. but more importantly, the character of the nation is filled with rot. too many parties (people, families, communities, businesses) are captured by the government and its golden handcuffs (so to speak, regarding dependency created).
this is not the same nation that was once great. we have to admit: we were lucky after wwII, when other countries were decimated and we had the world trade (and our ability to export) all to ourselves.
@jibaritobueno - most importantly: GATT. globalized trade will never be reverted. creating millions, 10s of millions...100s of millions of jobs in Chindia destroyed the US, ultimately. most multinationals are getting their growth from overseas. the game is overseas and global.
my prediction: in 10-20 years when all settled, Clinton will go down as the worst potus for signing GATT and removing Glass-Steagall, enabling a phoney economy that gave a fake prosperity of the 2000s.
@jibaritobueno - the game is stacked...heavily! ALL the govt has to do is revert back to 2003-2004 spending levels and the the govt would be in okay financial state in part (excluding healthcare and growth in entitlements...not to mention the jobs and the real economy). the financialization of the economy: something like 30-40% of gdp is finance. throughout the 2000s, 40% of all corporate profits were from Wall St. (finance).
@jibaritobueno - this is all going to end badly: not with a bang but a whimper. we are too sick: 44-48m food stamp recipients. 17% unemployment. all economic models predicated on growth. all of that growth is going to be sucked out by (1) debt and crowding out of interest rates and debt accumulation that is non-linear, (2) aging baby boomers, (3) and the fact that GATT and global trade agreements introduced wage-arbitrage that will ultimately bring wages to parity with developing countries...
@qncsc I agree... All the more reason to have a revolution. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said, "God forbid, that we should go 25 years without a rebellion." I understand that was a different time then, but the concept is still relevant. It resonates with me. As citizens, we have totally relinquished our authority and have allowed government to become GOD! I noticed that you're only focusing on the economic element of this issue; however, the rabbit hole is much deeper.
(1) adds more layers of its existence in structure and power (latest example is the advent of the "supercongress"), (2) adds more laws, continuously increasing its power and reach, thereby reducing individual freedom and responsibilities, (3) adds growing costs and indebtedness, eliminating potential for savings and investment for the individual, through usurpation of income
The fact that Obama threatened those of us that have been CONTRIBUTING to Social Security for the last 45 years is unforgivable. He's a piece of unadulterated cow manure. I absolutely could not be angrier; he's got some balls.
@111day1 - Obama's retorts are smoke-and-mirrors. It is all marketing! I don't believe anything he says. I certainly don't believe any action he proposes. He is a voice reading from a teleprompter, with a skin-tone attractive to many, many people! He represents a heartless, soulless, irrational bureaucracy. There is nothing substantive to examine from Obama. Some would say he is a puppet: whatever he is, he is not reflective of the needs, problems and concerns of one concerned with freedom!
@111day1 I hope you realize that Social Security is likely to pay you far too little to actually live on, when the price inflation start to seriously set it and your checks 'majorly' fail to keep up. That will have nothing to do with politics at that point and everything to do with cold hard reality. The Gov will be broke, no one will lend to them, they'll print money to make up the difference, and that will just pump more inflation.
You have been lied to for 45 years, that is the truth.
what we need in the US is a new "civics" course that theorizes the existence of government and breaks-down trends and analyzes the progression of the government and its growth; or, what kind of creature is "government?"
e.g., every year government and its minions produce...laws! therefore, the body of laws, controlling and demanding of people grow and gorge on an individual's freedom. i don't think people realize this growth. i don't think people understand implications...of unending laws!
@Panpiper - nope! it is not even the "gov-run schools" that i have no confidence in. i have none (to little) confidence in all people and entities, in context of govt-role questions. just pontificating...
what the commentators do not understand is that trends point to a large monolithic government. there is no reason, understanding and change. if they understood or thought about the parallel powers of technology and how power concentrates from technology, it would be understood that the future is bleak. in effect, all of the effects seen are a result of "technology" and its manifestation in concentrating power. government is enabled by complexity and is representative of its existence.
This super congress is what is really called a dictatorship! I guess things will get very insane now. I too wish for a non violent solution but the way things are going it would be our future because if this is allowed to move forward we will be fighting for our lives in the very near future!
6.5 billion governments vs 1-monolithic government:
history shows us that time-and-time again, people vote for the 1 large, bureaucracy. that is the destiny of humanity. that is the trend and that is what people want. people do not want personal responsibility, if there is a possibility to leach off others and have others pay for responsibility. the poor? let government handle it! education? let the government handle it! my needs? let the government come to my rescue!
No political solution? Then what is the solution? I have to write a big check to the IRS this month and it sickens me, not so much because I get poorer, but because I'm supporting this total bullshit system and, especially, the endless, immoral wars. how about a tax revolt?
@111day1 - thanks for sharing! it sickens me too! to think that our money goes to pay the salaries of scumbags (if not the real terrorists, our politicians). that our monies (and 40-50% of our time over a year that it took to earn that money) goes to a philosophy and programs that we find completely objectionable. that our monies go to bombing and killing people all over the world, out of irrational fears from the populous and the power-lust of the government!
so are there any videos giving advice on what to do when this economic meltdown comes? I've watched several of your videos telling us about how bad its going to get, but none advising us what we can do to protect ourselves
@Brushles83 Learn a useful skill that lots of people need, like repairing stuff or whatever. Learn to be entrepreneurial. Learn how the black market works and get comfortable with the idea, as the free market is getting more and more illegal every day. Keep a store of junk silver coin around, as much as you can afford, use that for barter in case of hyperinflation. Stock up on at least three months of consumables, food, etc.. If it turns out you don't need it yourself, you can always barter it.
@RodCornholio - "The greatest trick government ever pulled was persuading people that it is necessary."
great concept. and how does government persuade people that it is necessary? understanding that would help awaken people to the nightmare! ...awaken to the matrix! govt uses many and multiple devices to ensure its existence: creating dependence via programs, issuing checks (refunds of interest-free loans from tax withholding), preying on fears and constructing imaginary nightmares, lies...
Jeff mentioned not paying in, that's a great idea but it needs to be done by an large organized body of people because they pick people off one by one. Strength in numbers!
Can't "thumbs up" this enough. Excellent discussion, Stefan & Jeff. They're playing the most dangerous kind of politics in the worst way. Nothing new to see here.
Funny how the market got worse once they passed raising the debt ceiling. I wonder how they are related.
TheAmercanSkeptic 6 months ago
This guy (Jeff Berwick) is one of the few I trust, too. He just looks good, speaks good.
qedisk 6 months ago
Either create something new or stay complicit. Eventhough you/I have no say in how the debt is created, we are responsible for paying it. We are Constitutors and according to the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution we can't even question it without repercussions.
xLowFive 7 months ago
As a United States Citizen you/we are responsible for the debt. Feel like the Gov't is out of control? Feel like you're being taxed without representation? Don't consent to what is going down? Expatriate. Do what the "Forefathers" did, they created their own system. They broke away and created their own thing. Now that thing has mutated and we must create our own thing. The thing the "Forefathers" created isn't ours, so we cannot change it. We must create our own. The blueprint is ther
xLowFive 7 months ago
poof obama copperfield's latest illusion
f8lfrogman 7 months ago
War is coming, they won't just let the financial system crash and give up their world dominance. The western world have rapped the rest of the world for years and now we are seeing other countries with vast populations say no, hence why America and the western world are being"re adjusted" in line with the rest of the worlds living standards, I leave it up to you to decide if the powers that be will go quietly. Survival of fittest? Limited Food sources? WAR comes before Famine you know.
Lisa281977 7 months ago
Americans love heroes, they are always looking for a savior. Pathetic.
pretorious700 7 months ago
Awesome! You are such a great co-op! Keep bringing Jeff on Stef!
100percenteri 7 months ago
Evolution is a lie too. Funny how so many people accept this as absolute truth. Just like so many have planks in their eyes about the value of government and that it is for the good of the people....sure it is....
Motoicon 7 months ago
@Motoicon On what tenets of evolution do you disagree with?
TheJamesrocket 7 months ago
@Motoicon And then again, there are people who dismiss evidence that doesn't support their idealogy. Evolution is scientifically verifiable.
pretorious700 7 months ago
@pretorious700 And easily debunkable.....
Motoicon 7 months ago
@pretorious700 No. Evolution is only scientifically falsifiable. And it is a lie.
qedisk 6 months ago
@qedisk: So not only is the entirety of academic evidence on the subject wrong, but it's also been the intention of the scientific community to have us believe this giant falsehood for a century and a half?
andyissemicool 6 months ago
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qedisk 6 months ago
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qedisk 6 months ago
YES, if you dont know that ape is from human and not vice versa, search the net. And thanks youtube for helping you with it.
qedisk 6 months ago
@qedisk ignoramus.
OpqHMg 6 months ago
@OpqHMg No. Only I cannot post any normal links in youtube chat. There is a LOT of suppressed knowledge about evolution and creationism of course is not true, because when something (the classical point of view on evolution) has only one stupid opponent (creationism), it's not enough to be validate by it.
qedisk 6 months ago
@qedisk it is very obvious that you are ignorant of phylogeny. a german shepherd is a type of dog. there are many different types of dogs, and a german shepherd is one type of dog. a human is a type of ape, there are many types of apes and a human is one type of ape. not only did humans evolve from other ape ancestors, we never evolved so much as to not be still correctly classified as apes.
greycloud24 6 months ago
@anon3560 which creates jobs. Jobs at home dont leave us deep in debt to foriegn central exchange banks. We have got to start producing our own needs. We cannot keep importing far more than we export, and ever expect to get ahead.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@anon3560 While at the same time it takes jobs away at home. Raising the debt ceiling means we will issue more treasury notes and bonds, and go deeper into debt to foriegn central banks. Waiting for politicians to make balanced trade agreements doesnt seem to be working so well. So what we can do on a grass root level, is to buy USA made products as much as possiable, to create a demand for them,
CandySlices 7 months ago
@anon3560 Not quite. We import far more than we export. Most everything we buy is foriegn made. Since the US has a debt bassed currency, fiat, from fractional reserve banking. The debt is owed to foriegn central banks. They carry our dollar via bonds and treasury notes. This finances our national debt, and wars abroad from borrowing. This exploitation allows the US to purchase up the world's resources, labor, products, and companies, for a debt that will never be paid.
CandySlices 7 months ago
The vaunted "Clinton Surplus" was paper IOUs traded for money taken from Social Security.
order9066 7 months ago
Why not just stop the senseless war? Sounds to me like a great ting to not fund in order to save money. Instead they would rather take from the people who have the least often times. Many people on social security, disability literally live from month to month and have nothing left to save. Withholding even a single check would be a disaster. Why take from those who have nothing?
CriesCyanide 7 months ago
7:50 - 8:40
jsmith2144 7 months ago
Keep on increasing the debt and increasing the spending!!!
Anarchy is near :)
helltrackrider 7 months ago
@anon3560 furthermore increasing national debt only represents a circulation thats depleting at a far greater rate of any of the national debt injections ,,logic & basic 2nd grade math proves this alone.We suffer from endless Circulatory deflation by the banking obfuscation of our own promissory obligations to each & also suffer the manifestation of price inflation which is primarily caused by interest charged by commercial banks.Interest that was never created nor issued into circulation.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
@anon3560 Basically I'm saying there is no loan from the word GO rather a commitment to create & retire a obligation ,what currency thats in the circulation only represents an unequal fraudulent exchange of value which is evidence of our own promissory obligations to each other .To loan money is to establish money existed prior to that loan, NO money ever existed until one of us walks into a bank & signs a promissory obligation .We are the true creditors & we create money, All banks are thieves.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
Great conversation!
xxCrazySmooth 7 months ago
Learn how to grow food.
vidzane 7 months ago
So now that its a consensus that the U.S. is effed. Should i move to Canada or Caribbean?
collector842002 7 months ago
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2 minutes in and I cannot listen any more to these two fucking RETARDS
CandySlices 7 months ago
@CandySlices Can you contribute to the conversation, or just namecall?
josda1000 7 months ago
I don't agree with everything, but it's nice to see people actually openly discussing Anarcho-Capitalism. It bring's the warm and fuzzies into my cold black heart.
Joe11Blue 7 months ago
@ around 17:00 minutes, they talk about how a grandma would never directly steal from their kids and all that.
I think that is what Government does, it creates a disassociation between cause and effect, plus the lag time of laws passed.. so it really throws people off unless they can actually look at a picture and see it.
MRSketch09 7 months ago
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its really very simple:: to talk about americas debt and not disuss doing something about the federal reserve and the central banking system as well as wallstreet will NEVER get anyone anywhere,,its completely pointless.
the united states should not be paying interest to anyone, it should not be borrowing money from anyone.
the americn people need to wake up and they need to do it now
ace1sod 7 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012
jonstina1987 7 months ago
Imagine if we did not have Y.T and were still stuck with only the MSM lol
GuildF40 7 months ago
@GuildF40 oh hi guildy lol i'm glad there are plenty of people not drinking the coolaid. and i'm heavily depressed that i had to sell my silver... i hope i get a job again and am able to buy back into it soon.
josda1000 7 months ago
Thks guys, good show...
nclusiau 7 months ago
Jeff is saying don't be a part of the government, then he says that the old people did nothing to stop these problems.
waveoflight 7 months ago
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors, not from any actual profit earned by the organization,but from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors.
Do banks invest theyre own money in this purported pozi scheme.Do banks loan theyre own money or offer,risk anything that has consideration of value in a purported loan.What then justifies interest if banks merely cover the cost of publishing evidence of our own promissory obligations.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
@chotaboy66 they pull all this shit off because it's imaginary.
doesthismakeanysense 7 months ago
@doesthismakeanysense They know to well people love to buy & swallow imaginary delusions even those who deem themselves to be awake for they fail at even looking up a simple definition .These Chinese's whispers of a purported posi scheme is somehow now endorsed by many to explain how the monetary system works which couldnt be any further from the truth,rather this auto parroting of untruths divides us further & those who do parrot this dogma is only evidence they themselves havent a clue really.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
"In the future, interest rates will be lower..."? And what is that supposed to be pertaining to? Interest rates are already negative when you consider rates of inflation. I love how these parasites suggest robbing savers is a good thing.
MabusZero 7 months ago
@MabusZero I see there is one here thats logically awake ,there is hope for us after all ,bravo I commend you sir.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
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@anon3560 Def YES A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors, not from any actual profit earned by the organization,but from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors.
Indeed these guys have NO IDEA for there is no debt or loan to start with rather a theft of circulation on conception creation of money thus one is lost in preposterous Austrian illogical dogmas thats distracting ones own self of the root cause of monetary destruction.
chotaboy66 7 months ago
Good vibes
GrowJunkieXL 7 months ago
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chotaboy66 7 months ago
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You're too intellectual for me.
ytrogergt 7 months ago
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ytrogergt 7 months ago
Don't worry... I'm sure Super Congress will save us all!
DackIsBack 7 months ago
the truth...please spread to everyone you know
MrResisting 7 months ago
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chotaboy66 7 months ago
No there isn't anything real aboot this at all
ProdigalSonofLiberty 7 months ago
All national debt represents what has already been STOLEN out of circulation over the years via your own personal loans.This sum of money laundered now as national debt consisted of principal only for interest IS never created not before the fraudulent exchange,not even by expansion.To say interest is affordable at any rate is illogical because charged interest by any bank can only deplete the principal that only exists in circulation.There is a solution but hey most cant even do the basic math
chotaboy66 7 months ago
I'm sharing the sh*t out of this video! ;p
testdummy007 7 months ago
Time makes more converts than reason.
skunkwerksrc 7 months ago
Where did the Term "Super Congress" come from?
How are they Picking the Majestic 12, is it by vote, straws, lottery or just money?
And what are the Qualifications for being on the Maj-12, Lawyer, Accountant, Cleaner..?
JPMorganMustDie 7 months ago
@JPMorganMustDie Super Congress is the term they chose because they can trump the actual congress to push whatever legislation is desired. Its actually thirteen people in this group with number 13 being the person in charge of it. To be in this group, you have to be approved, and you have to be for globalism and doing what your told.
SuperPhdiva 7 months ago
Stef's super-sized cranium makes this guy look like a conehead!
EastCoastAvenger 7 months ago
If the opposite of pro is con
what is the opposite of progress ...
deadlizard64 7 months ago
@deadlizard64
Is this a riddle that you already know the answer to?
tridentmovies 7 months ago
Folks, be adviced!
There has been discovered a "liberal gene"!
watch?v=0hupClzDNs8
check the above video at min 06:05 for details!
CalgaryAlpineStyle 7 months ago
What is a good/ reasonable response to the statement, "Ron Paul is the controlled opposition we are presented with to give the slight appearance of balance in the rhetoric that we are propagandized by." ? If anyone can answer this I (and others like me) will maybe support Ron Paul more as there does not seem much point otherwise, apologies for the cynicism.
aghoranathi 7 months ago
@aghoranathi He is not "controlled opposition" as he is actually converting a lot of people away from the elite of both parties. I'm sure he truly believes everything he says, it is just that in these times of increased insanity, people are starting to notice the one man who still seems to have a brain, otherwise nobody would have care about him. You'd have a better argument calling someone like Ronald Reagan controlled opposition as he was a fraud.
tridentmovies 7 months ago
@tridentmovies Thnx Bro, I appreciate your responses, I have found some hope listening to Dan Hanning on utub, he is an MEP for somewhere in Britannia, not sure what that is/ means but trust me he is a true word smith, he derides the EU in all it's failed inadequacy. Please let me know if you decide to check him out as i will be completely stoked :) laters brah, chur, reg.
aghoranathi 7 months ago
@aghoranathi
As far as there being a point to support Ron Paul. You can support him for his ideas and the fact that he is educating a lot of people who are still open minded enough not to swallow propaganda. But there isn't any point in voting for him enough that he gets in the white house, because he would be a lone rogue without congressional support whatsoever, and is just doomed to fail. Even if he would succeed, it's just temporary, because there is nobody else like Ron Paul in politics.
tridentmovies 7 months ago
A big show indeed. Has anyone else noticed that since this "debate" started, we're no longer discussing the illegal Libyan invasion?
blueorangelettuce 7 months ago
Super Congress = Politburo
All of the smoke and mirror debt / deficit theater was to create this new unconstitutional concentration of power. It looks like that was the real goal.
MarkProffitt 7 months ago
@MarkProffitt The goal of any company is to grow. The difference between government and other businesses is that the government has a monopoly on the use of force. It's ok for them to twist arms, kill, steal, ect. It should be no surprise what happens.
gradiu3rox 7 months ago
very interesting. I write and direct a dramatic show Downsized on my channel about the economic crisis so I've been watching lots of videos tonight on the "debt solution" and it's so tragic for the average American.
overanalyticalprods 7 months ago
The only one that seems to have said this before this guy, in the government, is Ron Paul. If my country is interested in preserving itself they will get behind him. He voted against all of these detrimental measures.
atkinsoniv 7 months ago
Could the US government ultimately invoice today's US child with an emigration 'tax bill' should he/she decide to move to Asia, for example, once they become of age and decide they want rescind their US citizenry from a country of residence standpoint ? I recently listened to some claims that US citizens travelling abroad were being boldly questioned by border agents to ensure there was absolutely no more than the allowable amount of money leaving the country. Reverse of immigration. Curious.
superchap 7 months ago
Thank you both ..nice to hear info presented in such a calm intelligent way ....blessings to you both :)
brighton4343 7 months ago
People attack the messagers - tell people bad things are happening and people will attack you.
megagagnon1 7 months ago
Awesome Stef.
I subscribed to Jeff's newsletter after seeing him on your show. Definitely would recommend others to do the same if they enjoyed this video.
guessillskate 7 months ago
I would suggest everyone have an emergency stash of water and canned goods at the very least. Buy canned goods you like to eat anyway, therefore, if there is peace in the world, you can just eat the canned goods and lose nothing. The cities may become chaos central. They teeter on the brink of criminal mob rule even in the best of times.
goldenarrow75 7 months ago
Andrew Jackson was able to succeed. So it CAN occur again. 6 other dead presidents say the odds are 1 in 7, though. (I believe Zachary Taylor is the lone President who was not assassinated by banksters)
kroovyandcal 7 months ago
Debt solution...send in the clowns..
SuperPhdiva 7 months ago
@stefsheep why are you so worried about what sheep think? get on with life, they are not worth worrying about.
baalisgod666 7 months ago
I think it should be less political, because the arguments speaks for itself.
Cut the political message, and maybe you could reach "lefties" too...
Carnei 7 months ago 2
As you say. Politics can not solve this.
Only reason can.
Carnei 7 months ago
@Carnei - what is reason? and in what context does said "reason" enable a solution? and if it offers "something" then how does it augment or mitigate or enable other "somethings" of which there must surely exist: rarely is one idea-concept complete. eg, i can argue that economic events present greater power than "analysis," limiting debate. the govt programs creating dependence provide an economic incentive that are too powerful to be reasoned with. govt programs support a large % of people...
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc
"govt programs support a large % of people..."
This is why it has to be as unbiased as possible. Because if the people, depending on the support gets blinded by that fact alone they do not wish to hear ANY of the arguments.
However, if someone would agree based on the arguments alone, they will find themselves belonging to a different ideology, that does not support the state.
Carnei 7 months ago
@Carnei - but so many people are already co-opted: believing they are entitled to monies and benefits. also, once receiving benefits or "free stuff" it becomes hard to move out of that position (as we are creatures of habit and conditioned to act habitually).
i love the idea of analysis (logic, reason) > than any lucre the government could use to entice. but that would make us principled. and i believe "society" is less principled simply as it has lost its independence to the state.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc
Yes, i know. That is also why i think it's better to keep politics out of the arguments, unless the argument depends on it.
People usually use violence as a last resort, this is because they have a principle.
When did you "wake up"? I ask only because i assume you were an adult before realizing what's going on.
As you can imagine i'm trying to get at, this takes time.
In my opinion, the arguments alone will do a better job for us than to load them with political values.
Carnei 7 months ago
@qncsc
I should mention that this is also the same tactics govt. use.
Govt. doesn't usually paint their arguments in "a political statement" when they use rethorics, only when in opposition to other political ideologies.
This is something that is both confusing and sort of a means to lead the populations thoughts.
Carnei 7 months ago
@Panpiper I'm feeding the troll. I am a bad person.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@Panpiper - yes. stop it! feeding trolls keeps them around. starve the troll...is the only solution!
qncsc 7 months ago
@stefsheep How do you know Stef isn't parroting me?
Troll.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@stefsheep If you think one man can reform the system and give you your freedom though voting, you're delusional.
siftyfour 7 months ago
In Australia the government is huge. Tax on the average wage is 48%. Yet our unemployment is 4%, our average wage is $24k more than the US average, and we don't have to pay for health insurance. We are #2 on the HDI chart.
I can prove that big government is good, but you can't prove that small government is good.
dodododa 7 months ago
@dodododa It all depends on approach. However, when you have a corporate government that enjoys stealing from the middle and lower classes, big government is not a positive entity. Its thievery.
SuperPhdiva 7 months ago
@dodododa
"tax on average wage is 48%" " Our average wage is 24k more than the US average"
*facepalm. I love how you fail to realize how the first point makes the second point moot. Is this even considering purchasing power (average prices, sales tax, etc) , or are you just converting the average australian wage to american dollars, and then comparing the two? Did you even do that?
"We don't have to pay for health insurance. We are #2 on the HDI chart."
HDI is notoriously biased.
ghostbuddy 7 months ago
@dodododa
Also, Australia is higher on the list of economically free countries. So its not impossible that the especially free, free market in Australia is driving economic growth there. and the government has been successful in stealing abormally high amounts of wealth, because its letting the market do its work. If anything this shows that the massive amounts of deregulation and privatization in the early 2000s worked out in the long run. :O
ghostbuddy 7 months ago
Gold price currently $1,653/oz. * 35 273 oz/tonne * 8,133.5 tonnes = approx. $474,000,000,000. The debt limit is $14.294 trillion so the gold reserves equal 3.3 % of the debt. Even assuming a 1/3 reduction in gold price (not happening anytime soon) the government could pay the interest on the debt for 10 months at current 5 year Fed bond interest rates. So the "deadline" is nothing of the kind.
newperve 7 months ago
@stefsheep Troll.
Ron Paul can't stop the ship from sinking. That is not his role to play. His role is simply to use what attention he can get to educate as many as possible. In reality we do not really want Ron Paul to win (he honestly doesn't have a prayer) because him being at the helm as the ship sinks would be interpreted by statists everywhere as proof that freedom is evil. Stef has said this many times, as have many others.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@stefsheep Stef has told his listeners to 'not' vote for anyone. That a good portion of us fail to heed Stef's wishes and support Ron Paul anyway, disproves your implied contention that Stef is a cult leader.
Panpiper 7 months ago
Enjoyable interview - Thanks very much
zalida100 7 months ago
@stefsheep I don't even know what the hell that means. Sounds silly, well- not as silly as thinking one old senator is "going to turn this country around" so...should I say get out of your " psuedo-patriotic-conditioned- brainwashing that the system really works " .....BOX ? LOL
A dose of reality wouldn't hurt you or the millions like you stuck in second gear.
RenegadeTimes 7 months ago
@RenegadeTimes Hi RT. Have a look at the channel you're responding to. It's taking up some of your time to respond to an empty box.
I think you're right. Ron Paul isn't a stupid man. I'm sure he knows he wouldn't be able to do very much. It's still probably quite a good thing that he speaks quite well and to a certain extent, helps to educate lots of people, at least to some of the nastiness of gov/politicians. - cheers
zalida100 7 months ago
@zalida100 Well thank you for the heads up about the empty box. I have never encountered that before. Perhaps my words were seen by others ...and thats satisfaction enough. Thanks again..
empty box ...lol
RenegadeTimes 7 months ago
@RenegadeTimes Hi RT. Sometimes when a comment is a bit silly. it can be interesting to look at the channel to maybe get a clue where the comment is coming from.
I agree it's not a complete waste of your time cos other people read your comment too. Good point. - cheers
zalida100 7 months ago
@stefsheep Ron paul will stop and or change nothing. Have you been paying attention....or what ?
13 f-ing parasites are making decisions....do you not comprehend how this is going to play out ?
One old tired senator isn't going to be able to do squat...if he was elected...he
d play ball or find himself floating in a hot tub like Matt Simmons , or plane crash as Paul Wellstone..or a ride in a convertible parade. What is it you people don't get ? Damn ~
RenegadeTimes 7 months ago 2
@RenegadeTimes Well put
deadman12078 7 months ago
out with the old, in with the young.
EVOLUTION, through REVOLUTION.
c22dividedby7 7 months ago
You two are misinformed about the origins of the debt. Like children who have not grown up you want to scapegoat mommie and daddy. The debt has come from the Federal Reserves Non transparent lending to foreign countries , banks and large corporations. the USA taxpayers are footing the bill for the support of the the rich of the world. You have been hoodwinked by propaganda.
RUBYGREENEDUFOUNDATI 7 months ago
@RUBYGREENEDUFOUNDATI Easy money policy has certainly made it easy for foreign banks and corporations to borrow from the Fed, which is indirectly subsidized by Americans through higher prices (a depreciated dollar). But that is not debt, that is paid for pretty much immediately (in blood) as prices rise (or otherwise fail to fall). The debt, strictly speaking, is the direct result of the US Gov spending more than it brings in in taxes.
Panpiper 7 months ago
Seniors did not have many of the technological devices that reveal the ugly truths of government. My father worked feverishly to understand and fight injustices. He was born in 1919. He had no internet but he searched where he could and he handed that legacy to his children. No other children that I grew up with were exposed to this information through their parents. I was 12 and knew about the CFR. Crazy early but I now appreciate all he did. He knew more in 65' w/o Internet than people today
RenegadeTimes 7 months ago 2
Hey ! If 13 psychopaths are going to be making all these decisions, the Super Congress...
then fire all the rest of that dead ineffective weight...and send their salaries to the people.
This is going to be very very bad ~So many have not a clue !
RenegadeTimes 7 months ago
Top interview! You have my thumbs up...
silvergoldhedge 7 months ago
Hey - It did throw the slaves off the trail of Bush and Cheney (our greatest criminals). So there is that. Score one for criminal minds.
Sad there is no justice in this world.
Nexus2Eden 7 months ago
This is something to talk about.... Most citizens in the US dont know.. Union Pacific Railroad workers (i dont think this includes management or their office personnel) who belong to the Union do not pay into Social Security. They have their own system they pay into ,which im sure will be inflated away also. If you were an S (or C)corp you also dont pay into SS but you do pay a reduced state franchise tax...this only benefits self employed who have to put in full 14.5% of their income
driller62869 7 months ago
Excuse me? CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A REVOLUTION? IM READY TO START ALL OVER....or at least I'm willing to die so that my child can start with a fresh system based on true freedom!!!!
jibaritobueno 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - REVOLUTION
defined as "an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed."
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definitionally, the concept seems quite innocuous. however, government (or the powers in charge) will not accept the will of the people as they have demonstrated with the implementation of TARP, various bailouts, quantitative easing, increasing the federal debt. all against popular opinion.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Revolution...innocuous? In history, revolutions have always been deadly. Whenever citizens have decided to replace or overthrow a corrupted government, innocuity isn't an element in this process. Who gives up power easily? Also, revolution has never been about the government accepting it, it's about letting them know that WE are in charge of our freedoms....they are elected to represent us. However, that contract has been broken several times over.
jibaritobueno 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - the definition reads like someone changing "shoes." so then why is revolution so violent? if a representative government is filled with people whom are elected, seek to serve the people, then they would readily join in, if the will of the people reflects interest in a new system? no?
how come the above sounds so silly? i think it is because the government representatives are similar to a murderer, who feels no remorse. fights to live his life as before. seeks no change.
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc OMG!!! You have not only shown me the 500 pound gorilla in the room, but have also pointed out the fact that it's rabid and mad (as in lunatic). Most importantly, I've never thought about the symbiotic relationship that has been created between the general population, big business, and the government. You're right!!!!! Why would they readily join a revolution? This is a lot scarier than I previously imagined. WOW!!!!
jibaritobueno 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - thanks! yeah, i had been pounding sand for some time, while looking at this for some time. and after pushing the problem around for so long, I had realized the various findings (i believe). great that you can see what i have written...because the other difficulty is that many who might be interested in that "revolution" are also sometimes unable to "see" the various pieces and unable to piece the pieces together.
lot of complexity is hidden (i believe).
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc Certainly!!! Sometimes the various pieces need to be revealed because of the obscurity. Whoa! I have a headache now. Seriously. So, what will the solution be? Are we destined to fall like the great Roman empire? Who do we talk to? I'm confused my friend. Do we run away? Is the collapse of the US inevitable?
jibaritobueno 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - re revolution. last night i came to peace with it all. (seriously). the general population desire the government as much as the politicians-banksters-elites-multinationals. they are ALL in collusion against 30-50% of the population that finds all of this abhorrent. there are just too many in the general populous co-opted, believing in a large government. and upon a new system those people would seek out a large government...again!
qncsc 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - the country is gone financially. but more importantly, the character of the nation is filled with rot. too many parties (people, families, communities, businesses) are captured by the government and its golden handcuffs (so to speak, regarding dependency created).
this is not the same nation that was once great. we have to admit: we were lucky after wwII, when other countries were decimated and we had the world trade (and our ability to export) all to ourselves.
qncsc 7 months ago 2
@jibaritobueno - most importantly: GATT. globalized trade will never be reverted. creating millions, 10s of millions...100s of millions of jobs in Chindia destroyed the US, ultimately. most multinationals are getting their growth from overseas. the game is overseas and global.
my prediction: in 10-20 years when all settled, Clinton will go down as the worst potus for signing GATT and removing Glass-Steagall, enabling a phoney economy that gave a fake prosperity of the 2000s.
qncsc 7 months ago
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@jibaritobueno - the game is stacked...heavily! ALL the govt has to do is revert back to 2003-2004 spending levels and the the govt would be in okay financial state in part (excluding healthcare and growth in entitlements...not to mention the jobs and the real economy). the financialization of the economy: something like 30-40% of gdp is finance. throughout the 2000s, 40% of all corporate profits were from Wall St. (finance).
the populous cannot understand this dynamic!
qncsc 7 months ago
@jibaritobueno - this is all going to end badly: not with a bang but a whimper. we are too sick: 44-48m food stamp recipients. 17% unemployment. all economic models predicated on growth. all of that growth is going to be sucked out by (1) debt and crowding out of interest rates and debt accumulation that is non-linear, (2) aging baby boomers, (3) and the fact that GATT and global trade agreements introduced wage-arbitrage that will ultimately bring wages to parity with developing countries...
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I agree... All the more reason to have a revolution. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said, "God forbid, that we should go 25 years without a rebellion." I understand that was a different time then, but the concept is still relevant. It resonates with me. As citizens, we have totally relinquished our authority and have allowed government to become GOD! I noticed that you're only focusing on the economic element of this issue; however, the rabbit hole is much deeper.
jibaritobueno 7 months ago
very pleasant interview.
imyourgod2 7 months ago
when will we understand that government is a cancer on human freedom!
people have to stop voting for a bigger and bigger and bigger government!
our enemy is not just the government...but everyone around us that keeps applauding, approving and condoning this madness, voting it in!
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stop the cancer! do not accept a larger government!
qncsc 7 months ago
GOVERNMENT:
(1) adds more layers of its existence in structure and power (latest example is the advent of the "supercongress"), (2) adds more laws, continuously increasing its power and reach, thereby reducing individual freedom and responsibilities, (3) adds growing costs and indebtedness, eliminating potential for savings and investment for the individual, through usurpation of income
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qncsc 7 months ago
The fact that Obama threatened those of us that have been CONTRIBUTING to Social Security for the last 45 years is unforgivable. He's a piece of unadulterated cow manure. I absolutely could not be angrier; he's got some balls.
111day1 7 months ago
@111day1 - Obama's retorts are smoke-and-mirrors. It is all marketing! I don't believe anything he says. I certainly don't believe any action he proposes. He is a voice reading from a teleprompter, with a skin-tone attractive to many, many people! He represents a heartless, soulless, irrational bureaucracy. There is nothing substantive to examine from Obama. Some would say he is a puppet: whatever he is, he is not reflective of the needs, problems and concerns of one concerned with freedom!
qncsc 7 months ago
@111day1 I hope you realize that Social Security is likely to pay you far too little to actually live on, when the price inflation start to seriously set it and your checks 'majorly' fail to keep up. That will have nothing to do with politics at that point and everything to do with cold hard reality. The Gov will be broke, no one will lend to them, they'll print money to make up the difference, and that will just pump more inflation.
You have been lied to for 45 years, that is the truth.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@Panpiper Social Security is a joke. My return on the investment can't pay for the food on my table.
111day1 7 months ago
what we need in the US is a new "civics" course that theorizes the existence of government and breaks-down trends and analyzes the progression of the government and its growth; or, what kind of creature is "government?"
e.g., every year government and its minions produce...laws! therefore, the body of laws, controlling and demanding of people grow and gorge on an individual's freedom. i don't think people realize this growth. i don't think people understand implications...of unending laws!
qncsc 7 months ago
@qncsc I hope you are not expecting to see that in 'government' schools.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@Panpiper - nope! it is not even the "gov-run schools" that i have no confidence in. i have none (to little) confidence in all people and entities, in context of govt-role questions. just pontificating...
qncsc 7 months ago
what the commentators do not understand is that trends point to a large monolithic government. there is no reason, understanding and change. if they understood or thought about the parallel powers of technology and how power concentrates from technology, it would be understood that the future is bleak. in effect, all of the effects seen are a result of "technology" and its manifestation in concentrating power. government is enabled by complexity and is representative of its existence.
qncsc 7 months ago
This super congress is what is really called a dictatorship! I guess things will get very insane now. I too wish for a non violent solution but the way things are going it would be our future because if this is allowed to move forward we will be fighting for our lives in the very near future!
scarmenl 7 months ago
6.5 billion governments vs 1-monolithic government:
history shows us that time-and-time again, people vote for the 1 large, bureaucracy. that is the destiny of humanity. that is the trend and that is what people want. people do not want personal responsibility, if there is a possibility to leach off others and have others pay for responsibility. the poor? let government handle it! education? let the government handle it! my needs? let the government come to my rescue!
the fate.
qncsc 7 months ago
No political solution? Then what is the solution? I have to write a big check to the IRS this month and it sickens me, not so much because I get poorer, but because I'm supporting this total bullshit system and, especially, the endless, immoral wars. how about a tax revolt?
111day1 7 months ago
@111day1 - thanks for sharing! it sickens me too! to think that our money goes to pay the salaries of scumbags (if not the real terrorists, our politicians). that our monies (and 40-50% of our time over a year that it took to earn that money) goes to a philosophy and programs that we find completely objectionable. that our monies go to bombing and killing people all over the world, out of irrational fears from the populous and the power-lust of the government!
stay mad! let people know how!
qncsc 7 months ago
so are there any videos giving advice on what to do when this economic meltdown comes? I've watched several of your videos telling us about how bad its going to get, but none advising us what we can do to protect ourselves
Brushles83 7 months ago
@Brushles83 Peter Schiff has some good advice. Check out his book crash proof.
Basically you want to keep most of your wealth in non dollar denominated assets.
lambedan 7 months ago
@lambedan That's assuming you 'have' any wealth.
Panpiper 7 months ago
@Brushles83 Learn a useful skill that lots of people need, like repairing stuff or whatever. Learn to be entrepreneurial. Learn how the black market works and get comfortable with the idea, as the free market is getting more and more illegal every day. Keep a store of junk silver coin around, as much as you can afford, use that for barter in case of hyperinflation. Stock up on at least three months of consumables, food, etc.. If it turns out you don't need it yourself, you can always barter it.
Panpiper 7 months ago
They're gonna have to learn from experience - the chilling truth...
TortoiseDream 7 months ago
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qncsc 7 months ago
The greatest trick government ever pulled was persuading people that it is necessary.
RodCornholio 7 months ago
@RodCornholio - "The greatest trick government ever pulled was persuading people that it is necessary."
great concept. and how does government persuade people that it is necessary? understanding that would help awaken people to the nightmare! ...awaken to the matrix! govt uses many and multiple devices to ensure its existence: creating dependence via programs, issuing checks (refunds of interest-free loans from tax withholding), preying on fears and constructing imaginary nightmares, lies...
qncsc 7 months ago
let the baby boomers get slaughtered!
theMAXILOPEZpsycho 7 months ago
Jeff mentioned not paying in, that's a great idea but it needs to be done by an large organized body of people because they pick people off one by one. Strength in numbers!
Tax revolt is exactly what the doctor ordered.
Iseeyoursoul 7 months ago
Great stuff Stef and Jeff, keep it up!
RancheroBFT 7 months ago
Can't "thumbs up" this enough. Excellent discussion, Stefan & Jeff. They're playing the most dangerous kind of politics in the worst way. Nothing new to see here.
ByteMeDammit 7 months ago
Jeff and Stefan should talk much more often. Amazing conversation
dothackerkiko 7 months ago 28
@dothackerkiko thanks, he's been on before
stefbot 7 months ago
great discussion!
1717jbs 7 months ago 5
@1717jbs thanks
stefbot 7 months ago
This video is fantastic
ProjectFreeSelf 7 months ago 4
@ProjectFreeSelf thank you! :)
stefbot 7 months ago
18:18 6.5 billion different governments in the world.
Wonderful utopia!
georgemargaris 7 months ago
2:34
"John Boner's Blueprint"
ROFL.
ubernerd35 7 months ago 11
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demented669 7 months ago
the site doesn't load for me, is it supposed to be up and running?
firuinthehouse 7 months ago