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  • What an asshole.

  • .....asshole

  • Way to alienate all of the gays (10% of the world's population) AND everyone else who supports same sex marriage! What a brilliant, insightful political stance!

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  • HUCKABEE RULES

  • FUCK HUCKABEE.

  • I love this guy! He is completely right. He's just trying to enforce the constitution. I'm not even republican, but I'm going to vote for this guy.

    I love his comparison to incest and polygamy. If we allow Gay marriage, we have to allow those two know? I think those are personally more natural then gay marriage!

  • i really hope he doesn't make it far in the 2012 election. if this guy becomes president, i don't know what i'll do.

  • @mikepep33 Oh I don't know you could fine a woman

  • @AGeekForever i don't know what you're trying to say...

  • @mikepep33 "if this guy becomes president, i don't know what i'll do."

  • There is something call the seperation of church and religion marriage should not be determine by majority of religions or traditions. But the primitive humanity desires.

  • freedom, freedom to marry who you want regaurdless of what you and your partner has between there legs.your a tool Huckabee! now fuck off!

  • go fuck yourself Huckabee!

  • The united states is not in any sense founded on the christian religion. Washington said that it wasn't and Thomas Jefferson was practically an atheist.

  • FUCK YOU HUCKABEE

  • One key reason he will NEVER be president.

  • @yeomalt2 Nope. Just about no taxes. They don't care about "freedom" or "liberty" or "justice" or any of those words they plant on their signs.

  • Gay marriage is fucked. Gay people suck dick. Fuck Gay people. "That would be like saying, well there's there are a lot of people who like to use drugs so let's go ahead and accommodate those who want to use drugs. There are some people who believe in incest, so we should accommodate them. There are people who believe in polygamy, should we accommodate them?"

  • @damnyou101 Gay marriage isn't about drugs or incest though, lil guy. Nice try though.

  • @damnyou101 Straight girls suck dick. Yes. Let's accommodate people who use drugs. Why not? It's their body. They can do what they want with it. Aren't Conservatives supposed to be FOR freedom? Yes, incest is okay if they don't reproduce. Same with polygamy. What's wrong with these things?

  • @damnyou101 Straight people suck dicks too. You've never had a girl suck on your dick before? It feels pretty damn good. And by the way I don't see why incest is wrong if it is non-procretive. If my cousin sucks my dick, I'm not gonna have any retarded children.

  • Ugh Disgusting. Thank God we were spared having this man in office.

  • If you allow Gay marriage, what next, Republican marriage?

  • mike huckabee is GAY

  • thieves say they have a chemical imbalance...does that make it right?

    if my chemical imbalance "tells" me to sock you in the face does that make if okay?

  • Genetic mutations are nothing to mock or look down upon. My daughter has a genetic "mutation" that causes her to have a higher risk for developing certain cancers.

    While I agree with you on the issue, PLEASE do NOT put being gay on the same level as genetic conditions. Parents of children with genetic conditions have enough uphill battles without fighting whether or not being gay is genetic.

  • Sorry about the comment, I just mean that the aspect of gay relationships/marriage to me seems a bit un-natural, I mean yes love is apart of marriage, but I mean marriage so has many other meanings. I mean if it were something in the mind that confused the person.. sorry... Its just I saw this piece on ABC, that says that there are people who are actually falling in love with animals and buildings. Were does it stop? God bless you and god bless your daughter.. I have a risk for high blood pres.

  • I hope that RockyBaloa221 comes to realise that he is the accumulation of countless genetic mutations. Same goes for every living thing on this earth. Nature favours some genetic mutations in terms of an organisms survivability. Wether, a certain trait in nature is common or rare, says nothing about wether it is bad or "immoral'. Hell, I could be infertile. It might not favour the propagation of offspring, but its not immoral.

  • yes and you could be infertal bc of something you have injested too. like all the studies that say this food and that drink and cigs and stuff could make you infertal. since you love your science studies. i hope you sir diredowns come to realize that all the bull you hear about that shit most of it aint true, and it is immoral. marriage is many things other than love. its a huge part, but not all of it. mutations dont make someone gay. thats an excuse bc they dont know why ppl are gay

  • It is immoral? Why? Because the bible says so? Because it isn't common?

    So what? Some people are gay, get over it. Its not so much of a big deal. You do not have a secular argument with regards to loving someone of the same gender being unethical.

  • its immorL BC ITS FUCKING WRONG! its sick and our nation is a christian nation and was founded on christian morals, and gay is immoral to christians, fuckin retard!

  • Our nation was also founded on slavery but we moved on beyond that. Lets stop denying gays the right to merry!

  • The last time I checked, the USA wasn't a theocracy.

  • its immoral bc its not the way we are made to be.. can 2 men reproduce? no. can 2 woman? no. thats why. not only what the bible says but if we were all gay, wed die out and there would be no more humans dipshit ass! it is uncommon just like a guy shoots a gun in the air and the bullet hits someone on the way down. its uncommon. but it happens. it aint wrong bc its uncommon. its just fucking uncommon and wrong for reasons other than that.

  • I understand how you feel. But, I find it rather unexpected that you would be using words like fucking and dipshit ass since I presume that you are a Christian. Gay people are a minority and do not make up a great deal of the population, so I find it hard to imagine that the world's population of human will begin to decrease just because a small percentage do not reproduce. The worlds population is skyrocketing.

  • well, no ones perfect and God has mercy..so just bc i cuss dont mean hes sending me to hell or im not a true christian.. im not a cream of the crop christain, but i do love God.

    im saying, its unnatural and my reasoning for that is bc if we were ALL gay, then the population would die out.

    are you not a christian?

  • A small percentage of any population seems to be physically and emotionally attracted to the same sex. I view that as natural, because in occurs within the context of reality. Your imagined scenario which is a world where the majority of the human population or indeed everyone is gay IS unnatural because it is an unrealistic scenario that does not reflect reality. Also natural and unnatural does not have anything to do with morality. (for me at least).

  • Also with regards to your imagined scenareo in which all the world population is gay; you seem to have a very black and white view of the world. The problem with this kind of reasoning is that it can be used in many other contexts in which it still does not contain any sound reason. For example, what if everyone in the world was a fully ordained catholic priest? What if everyone was female? What if everyone used effective birth control in every sexual encounter?

  • I have no idea why you are targeting a small minority by pushing your religiously motivated self-perceived moral righteous when apparently according to Christian beliefs; any other religion besides Christianity is immoral. Why don't you argue with people of rival religions, since they make up the majority of the world's population? But, instead you choose to pick on a small minority within society for simply loving someone of the same gender. So far your have only offered an unrealistic scenario

  • i guess bc im a freakin ass damn southerner and we down here sure as hell dont like gays.

    sorry if i made you feel bad, but if your gay your gay. i cant change it. i just told ya what i know and how i feel. it is what it is.

  • Lol. Thats ok. With any stereotype that is attached to any given country or region, it may be true to some extent. eg people from the southern united states not liking gay people. guess its all demographics. Australian people sometimes are branded with the expectation of being feral drunks, always using slang and being obsessed with sport.

  • You didn't make me feel bad. If I let everyone with a computer an the internet piss me off or upset me I would be a wreck of a person.

  • Why do you desperately hold on to stupid stereotypes of your own people.

    I am a norseman I can trace my lineage back a thousand years and by blood I am a viking, does that mean I should rob, rape and pillage like my ancestors before me?

  • I know your spell checker doesn't work, not the one in your head or the one on your computer. Do you you know how sarcasm works? If you do... then you know how I feel when I say "one hell of a reasoning you've got going for your anti-gay campaign"

    And what does being christian have to do about anything? My spell-checker works fine by the way, I just always choose to keep a small "c" in christianity and religious nonsense will not control my life or spelling.

  • ethical- pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.

    gay is wrong! bc you cant reproduce! if you cant reproduce the human race ends! got it yet?

  • I'm not sure you know how to reproduce, and if you do, is that you're whole purpose to life. No wonder cunts like you live in trailers surrounded by babies that you don't even love.

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  • Dude. Go fuck yourself. Religious people are always so bigoted. Get off your high horse and join the masses of logical, reasoned thinking human beings in the 21st century. Leave those Bronze Age myths and beliefs in the past!

  • I ree that marriage is between one man and one woman. I have nothing against gays, have a gay relative. I dont agree with the lifestyle but believe they should have every civil right. I believe marriage is a relgious ceremony and should not be changed by government.

  • I know, I have a friend back in Virginia who is opposed to interracial marriage, but does not have anything against blacks and actually has a black friend.

  • You're right, OdinHyrule.

    When interracial marriage was legalize nationally by the Supreme Court, it was deemed a civil right. If people actually think of gays as equals of them and have any entitlement to the civil rights they enjoy - well, then they're going to have to give them marriage, which I'm fully behind.

    Otherwise, if you're going to oppose same-sex marriage, you really ought to be consistent and regard them as sub-humans, on par with pedophiles, rapists, and other sexual predators.

  • Thank you for picking up on my sarcasm. I do support gay marriage and was joking around when I wrote that comment.

  • If marriage is a religious ceremony, I dare the authorities to outlaw marriage for people who are not religious and don't belong to and church. Its as if their saying, "We believe that you two are going to hell when you die because you are not religious and have not accepted Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, but we will agree to marry you and take your money".

  • I love Mike Huckabee and support him 100%. I accept people the way they are and I have homosexual friends who I still love no matter what, but I agree that marriage is between a man and a woman.

  • well, why do you care if two men get married, its not hurting you is it?

  • that guy is a douche bag. marriage is between 2 people who are in love. gender has nothing to do with it. but thankfully i live in Canada so i can get married. YAY CANADA. hopefully the rest of the world will open their eyes and see that we are all equal.

  • Agreed.Its terrifying that rednecks like this can put themselves forward as the leader of the worlds only superpower.

  • Gay marriage is NOT a vital issue!

  • Intolerance and bigotry are not vital issues? I wouldn't want a racist president. I also want a president that supports his opinions with reason, and this "no marriage for the gays" crap is entirely unreasonable.

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  • @LogicalFlawDetector Sure, as long as they're all consenting adults and the ladies are allowed to have multiple husbands if they want.

  • @aleceth he says he supports a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. the president has NO ROLE whatsoever in the amendment process. so his opinions on same sex marriage literally are meaningless.

  • @aleceth FUCKEN QUEER

  • The problem here is mankind always wants to define right and wrong in his own eyes versus following God's rules of right and wrong. God has absolute standards and man has flexible standards.

    Without absolute standards, we go down a slippery slope. What if I wanted to have 2 or 3 husbands? Would there be something wrong with that? Who says that's right or wrong? You? What if I wanted to marry my daughter? Why would that be wrong ? If not for God's standards, we have no standards for morality.

  • booooooo hissssssss

  • Mike Huckabee.

    Hello, sir. I find your bigoted and hateful view of other human beings to be offensive to my love of all people. The fact that you invoke the word of God to justify your shameful ignorance only speaks more of your character. You are a charlatan and should never be offered the Republican nomination.

  • Hello? You got some hearing problem??? What "bigoted" and "hateful" view of other human beings did he say here?? Or are you just passing off some hyperbole to make yourself heard?

  • Nope, just identifying the intellectual deficient spouting shit about sanctity of marriage claiming some 2000 year old book gives him authority to discriminate. Not in my country.

  • Marriage has ALWAYS been defined between a man and a woman. If you're logic holds true that we can change these fundamental definitions, then who is stopping from defining marriage between a man and an animal or a thing???

    Why not?? Who exactly defines marriage? YOU??? NO WAY. Not in my country.

    Marriage has ALWAYS been defined between a man and a woman and you don't need a 2000 year old book to know that.

    So save the hyperbole of "shit", "hate", and "biogoted" yada yada.

  • But it is bigotry, plain and simple. Marriage should never be defined between anything but two adults because those are the only people that can consent. Just because you think it's "strange" or whatever doesn't mean your opinion should be made into law.

    Justifying discrimination because of your religion is laughable. It's already failed to suppress women's rights and black's rights. Homosexuals are next. We need to recognize each other as human beings rather than spouting

  • >>But it is bigotry, plain and simple. Marriage should never be defined between anything but two adults because those are the only people that can consent.

    Wait, why are you making up rules now?? Even kids can consent. Animals don't have a problem. Who made YOU the authority to decide these things?

    >>Just because you think it's "strange" or whatever doesn't mean your opinion should be made into law

    Same logic applies to people who want to change the definition of marriage.

  • @cheapshot1234 Kids cannot give consent until they are eighteen. Not legally. Neither can animals, ever, because they can't speak human languages, write human text, or understand the concept of marriage.

    You could say that to people who wanted equal rights for interracial couples.

  • ridiculousness about "divinity" and "sanctity."

    Gay marriage hurts no one. There is nothing immoral about it. Stop being intolerant.

  • >>We need to recognize each other as human beings rather than spouting

    Who said Homosexuals are not "recognized" as human beings? Once again, an appeal to emotional hyperbole.

  • To add ont oyour comment. A whole nation was destroyed by fire and brimstone in the bible. Sodom and Gammorah based on the sin homosexuality. It is very degrasing.

  • It's a 3,500 year old book, sorry to be pedantic...

  • gravity is also a 3,500 year old scientific law...will you throw that out and jump out of a plane at 30,000 feet?

    Rediculous...

  • Sorry brother, you misunderstand. I was correcting the pagan, exposing the fact that he is ignorant of the Holy Scriptures, their age, content, veracity, meaning, significance for life, society, death and eternal destiny. Shalom.

  • Well, it's in the bible thats why he invokes it. If you don't believe me look up Romans 1. Even Jesus says marriage is between a man and a woman

  • Tough love it is. Mike is a nice guy. However he is a leader, not a pushover. Thank goodness we have him for our next President.

  • It's interesting that when someone gives their opinion/view on a subject, and you don't agree with it, you call it "hate".

    It's also interesting that boonw, swears at Huckabee and then says "we don't need any more hate mongering bigots", it seems that you are acting exactly the way you claim he is acting.

  • "Fuck you Huckabee!!! We dont need any more hate mongering bigots in the US anymore,"

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    -You know what I find ironic? Huckabee claims to be conservative, yet stopping gay marriages stops millions if not billions of dollars in revenue for taxes and businesses that would otherwise be generated by gays spending for their weddings.

  • So because it would cost money, we should deny our fellow humans equal rights? Wow, some nice Christian morals, there.

  • "So because it would cost money, we should deny our fellow humans equal rights? Wow, some nice Christian morals, there. "

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    -Thats not my opinion. I was simply pointing out that for a party that claims to support businesses and the economy, its hypocritical to ban gay marriages which would call for the hiring of thousands of people generating tens of millions of dollars in revenue. My opinion is that if people are gay, its their business and they are free to do whatever they want.

  • my mistake, I agree

  • "Listen to the new Republican chair man and see that the democrats were for slavery"

    Actually democrats back then were considered as the conservatives and the Republicans were actually the liberals.

    So, you fail.

  • Was slavery based on truth? Supporters claimed it was, waving their Bibles. Was segregation based on truth? Was systematic practrice of paying women less money fthan men or the same work they performed based on truth?

    Unfairness is not based on truth. The Bible is an instrument to condone unfairness. THAT is the truth.

    Please don't be offended if a growing number of people isn't accusing God of unfairness, but instead holds people who support equality responsible!

  • On the contrary, the entire Bible denounces slavery. In the early 1800's William Wilburforce finally recieved enough votes from parliment to pass the anti-slave trade act, which in turn started the domino effect in abolishing it in the rest of the world. He was a devout Christian. If you are insinuating about southern plantation owners... read 2 Peter 3:16. There are plently of cults that claim to be Christian while twisting the truth.. to their own destruction. God will not be mocked.

  • The issue today is not slavery but legal discrimination of gays. Don't deny that gays have second class citizenship and are treated with less respect than other citizens. If you're denying it, you compound yoiur support of inequality.

    Unfairness is not based on truth. The Bible is an instrument to condone unfairness. THAT is the truth.

    Please don't be offended if a growing number of people isn't accusing God of unfairness, but instead holds people who support equality responsible!

  • He's a closet homosexual. Just like a lot of religious people.

  • yay for idiocy! people who believe the bible is literally true are stupid.

  • Hello, homosexual voter. I, Mike Huckabee, will not allow you to marry the one you love because I'm a bible-thumpin' conservative.

  • THis dude should of been president because he aint afraid to say what is right!! America yall did a bad job not voteing for this man!! He wouldve set America free again!! God bless you Mike!! You are great!

  • Actually, conservatives created the KKK.

    And marriage is not spelled 'marrige'

    Study up, bud.

  • You dont know what you are talking about. Governor Huckabee has done more for racial relations than Obama ever did. Huck won 48% of the black vote in Ark. and that is unheard of for a republican. Get your facts straight before you slander my man Huckabee.

  • He sure doesn't seem to be trying to make all people equal. Marriage pre-dates religion, so why should it, by law, have to follow the rules of a religion? whatever happened to separation of church and state. Your secularist founding fathers would be apalled that this man was even a politician.

  • Listen to the new Republican chair man and see that the democrats were for slavery

  • Marriage has an evolving definition, and one that must reflect the times. Allow homosexuals to get married, adopt, and participate in equal rights.

    If you disagree with this because of your religious beliefs, simply disallow gays from getting married there. Otherwise, not your problem. Religions already exclude women from becoming priests and blacks from becoming anything substantive outside of the Baptist movement. Be a little progressive. Peace.

  • Up your peace tube3594, like we need more Rev. Wrights, and woman preachers. Your the reason this country has taken a turn for the worse in the last fifty years. Your liberal views are killings us. I would rather see us fail, then give in to the left.

  • Attention youtubers: all black people are now named Rev. Wright and all women are not capable preachers. Thanks circle.

    What in particular is killing you in regards to liberal views? Does thinking hurt?

  • I agree with nolibsinmycircle because Marrige is between one man and one woman.

    And liberal views are the worst

    Liberals created the KKK

    Liberals support abortion (GENOCIDE)

    Liberals support homosexual "marrige"

    Liberals want to spend more and raise our taxes

    That is why Liberal views will kill this world

  • "Liberals created the KKK"

    What?!

    Liberalists supported and still support civil rights. A group of nutcases started the KKK.

    You believe homosexuality is a sin. I don't. niether of us will be able to change the other's view, so let's not argue about it. The point is that the 1st amendment prohibits congress from passing laws concerning relion. The only strong arguments against gay marriage are religious, so a ban on it would be unconstitutional.

  • "Liberals want to spend more and raise our taxes"

    STFU. This one drives me bananas. Look up the graph of who has spent more when in power in the last 60 yrs. The graph shows huge spikes in spending in almost all instances where a new republican president is in power.

    Of course Im sure you will continue to believe the same bs though since people of your ilk tend to not like it when the facts interfer with their state of delusion

  • Obama just spent 150 million dollars on his inaugaration. Thats 5 times more than the previous record-holder.

  • lets see about the money

    1.the bailout is over $800 b.(created by liberals)

    2.$30m. of it will go to protecting a mouse

    3. the $150m for obama...DURING A RECESSION

  • "over $800 b.(created by liberals) "

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    -Actually, it was the conservatives. Blaming the liberals for everything does not work. The reason we need the bailouts is because the conservatives took away so many regulations that banks and rating agencies could do basically whatever they wanted, and basically lent out a shitload of money to people who couldn't pay them back when they were told they would be able to afford the loans. Lets not also ignore the conservatives building up that defeciet

  • but what are the liberals doing to stop the defeciet since they are now in power?

    and dont say that the bailout isnt going to things that dont need it either....

  • "but what are the liberals doing to stop the defeciet since they are now in power? "

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    -IF you hadnt noticed we are currently in a recession whilst paying out a bailout that totals almost a trillion dollars. Where are they going to get the money to pay it down? The conservatives had a surplus in a time of high prosperity yet they somehow came up with a defecit around 9 trillion dollars? I couldn't do that if I tried.

  • You still havent said anything about how the bailout is going to useless things

  • @AlbertoBarreradotcom

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    -The bailout is aimed to keep the biggest companies afloat, they go under, so do millions of jobs, and the economy gets shoved into the crapper. Its a very complicated situation. I would find it odd that you would criticize the liberals for the bailout though when the conservatives also showed support for the bailout. A lot of the companies being bailed out are banks, those banks go under and people that have money in them will loose most of their savings.

  • boonw

    $4.6 bilion is going to planned parenthood which has helped kill over 50 milion innocent lives over the past 50 years.

    so why isnt it that your not saying anything about the bailout's useless hand outs?

  • to my knowledge, its 1 billion, and I dont agree with abortions either. I agree that abortion is essentially murder. I dont have too much of an education on the organization, I dont know if they have additional services or do anything else. But we arent really talking about planned parenthood, I'm talking about the big corporations which employ huge amounts of people and the banks who's declaration of bankruptcy would ruin the economic stability of millions.

  • Other than abortions, PP offers birth control, emergency contraception, screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers, pregnancy tests, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases, sex ed, vasectomies and tubal ligations and more. (Paraphrased from the wiki page)

  • And you fundies are taking this once great country to the status of utter shit.

  • I lost brain cells reading this comment.

  • "I lost brain cells reading this comment. "

    have you checked behind the fridge?

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  • Sure glad this fool got put away early in the game!

  • karlschlaussen

    I lost my former wife to lesbianism. She sure wasnt a lesbian when we married and our daughter wasnt transplanted. She just "bought the package" from a lesbian friend and her life has been downhill ever since. Dosens of relationships that all failed. Sad when you see this happen to someone you love.

  • ... You're full of shit.

  • karlschlaussen

    Please be more erudite in your comments. You can be quite intelectual and intellectual by times so please dispence with the crude comments they only tend to demean your argument.

  • I'm terribly sorry. What I meant was that you are using a very probably false story to diminish the perceived worth of the homosexual lifestyle and rights movement. In the future, please tell stories that are not full of shit.

  • thank god this guy didnt make it. im not some liberal nut that backs gay millitants but i do NOT belive the federal government should be able to meddle with marriage at all. the federal government has waaaayyy to much control over us as it is we gotta take the power back

  • Look at the make up on this clown. I knew this fraud was a drag queen!

  • why should we deny gay couples a civil union called marriage? your religion can do what ever it wants with marriage but government cant.

  • Mike huckabe he would of helped us alot, only reason peaple hated him was for his religion "fuck you baby boomers you have destroyed our contry!!" A MARRIGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN!! ITS IN THE BIBLE AND THE BIBBLE INVENTED MARRIG!!!! SO GO BY THE FUCKING RULES YOU GAY DURTBAGS!!!

  • Lol, nice intelectual statement there Fella.

    However, before you make such comments you should study some history.

    Prior to the 8th century, marriage was not part of the church. It was entirely a civil issue.

    It was around the 8th century, the church adopted it and put its own stamp on it.

    Do some research, form an objective opinion based on the facts instead of using religion to disguise your own ignorance.

  • bible is 5000 years old and i had marrige since the biggining of the book.

  • Even before the church instituted it in the 8th century, it has always been one man and one woman. Stop trying to redefine it. I have no problem with civil unions, just don't take away the word.

  • Copyhat- what the fuck are you talking about? Gays being allowed to marry wouldn't 'take away the word'; it would expand its definition. You're the one trying to take something away from other people, not the other way around, and don't you ever forget that.

  • Redefine what, marriage? Which marriage are you talking about? Because there are many different kinds of marriage in practice in todays world.

    Is it christian?

    Civil?

    polygamy?

    Need i go on?

    Bottom line is equality, Slaves were given freedom, women the right to vote. Now gays and lesbians wish the right to marry.

    And your telling me, you would refuse them, because of some view of marriage. That does not give you or anyone else the right to deny equality.

  • Equating this to race or gender is, I think, offensive to some people. Gay people in this country have not gone through what slaves had to go through, sorry. In addition, sexuality can, potentially, be influenced by external/environmental factors. Race and gender cannot. So you really can't put them on the exact same level and say it's all just the same.

  • Lol, look. Use any excuse you want to attempt to continue to promote what ever inequality you want in your country.

    As for your statement that Race and gender caanot be influenced. My friend, sex changes have been going on for quite some time. SOme so good that you wouldn't even be able to tell.

    Look, you don't have to like Gays and lesbians. But people should be decent enough to let them be happy, and to see that equality means just what its suppose too.

  • Two men shouldn't be able to marry for the same reason a man and a horse shouldn't be able to marry. It's not about taking "love" away from people, marriage is between man and woman. Bottom line.

  • A man and a horse?!?

    This is your argument?

    Well guess what, a large part of the western world, including Canada and many European countries have all granted, for whatever reason, the right for gay couples to get married.

    I guess the "Land of the Free" really depends on your perspective doesn't it.

  • Yeah I guess you're right. I'm guess I'm just another ignorant, bible thumping, religous nutjob that believes in the sanctity of marriage and wants to portray that kind of image to the rest of the world.

  • Yeah, pretty much. Why don't we allow a man to marry a horse? BECAUSE THE HORSE CANNOT GIVE CONSENT. Two men or two women can. Marriage is not a Christian rite. It's been around far longer than your ridiculous religion. You don't get to define it.

  • The fact that people are even TALKING about gay marriage is rediculous. First off, I truly believe that homosexualty is a mental disorder. And this is not even a religous argument. Atheists always talk about nature and its order. Well, I'm pretty certain that nature tended to match MAN with WOMAN. And if you disagree with that statement you are retarted. The fact that two men cannot reproduce should tell you something.

  • Why does marriage have to be about reproduction? Why can't we just marry for love? The only reason you nutjobs care about nature's "order" is because it suits your views. When nature contradicts your views, as is the case for evolution, you're the first ones to disregard it!

  • If you would have read my comment, you would know that I was talking about marriage, but simply homosexuality. I said that homosexuality itself is a disorder. The fact that reproduction happens only between man and woman tells that nature (if you're an atheist) or God (if you're religious) did NOT mean for man to be with man or women to be with women.

  • There are other benefits to sex besides reproduction. There is relief of stress, consummation of love, exercise, pleasure, etc... The only risks of sex are STDs and unwanted pregnancy. Unwanted pregnancy isn't even a problem in a homosexual relationship, and STDs can be avoided if you take care to use protection. For something to be classified as a disorder, it has to negatively affect the "sufferer". Case in point, homosexuality is not a disorder.

  • And even if we believed that nature had a consciousness and could will things (which goes against the whole idea of atheism), we still wouldn't give a damn. We as humans decide how we as humans can live. Why don't you slaves of God get that?

  • Stop dancing around the issue. My argument is: either nature or God intended male to be with female. The evidence is there. If nature intended male to be with male, then why can't two men reproduce? So, homosexuality goes against both nature and religion. And all the stuff about relief of stress is bullshit. Killing somebody may take off stress too, is that legal next?

    Oh and by the way, Homosexuality caused AIDS in the first place.

  • Let's pretend for a second that you're not a fucking moron and say that nature is a person and can intend that things happen. Let's take it a step further and say nature does not intend for homosexuality to happen. Why would it matter? We are free thinking beings. We have the right to choose what to do. No god or personified tree has the right to choose for me.

    Murder is harmful. Homosexuality is not.

    If you believe homosexuality caused AIDS, you've been listening to your pastors too much.

  • Yes we ARE free thinking beings, thats why people are ABLE to murder. Just because you CAN do something doesnt make it right. You are allowed to be gay, nobody is stopping you.

  • What makes something wrong is that it hurts somebody. Homosexuality hurts absolutely nobody. QED, homosexuality is not wrong.

    If it were up to you, you'd try and "cure" homosexuality, so don't even go there.

  • Again, let's pretend you're right about all homosexuals being flamboyant, flashy, limp-wristed BDSM freaks. And let's pretend that your idea of a true America is one without said stereotypical people. Give me one good reason that your hypocritically vain reputation is more important than anyone's happiness. Give me one good reason I should let you stomp on other people's rights so you can feel good about yourself. You're like an ant stepping on other ants so you don't feel so small... Pathetic.

  • More liberal whiny BS. Just because two men can't marry, they're all of a sudden unhappy and their lives are ruined. Liberals try to make this like the Civil Rights era but it's just not the same. Blacks don't choose to be blacks, so they have no control. Gays DO choose to be gay (and no, people are not born gay) and know very well that two men or two women cannot marry. It's pretty simple, the US has a certain reputation, and gay marriage with never be legal in more than one or two states.

  • Actually, a black man can get the pigment removed from his skin. This is "becoming white" in the same way that a man who is attracted to men "chooses to be gay". Nobody says people are born gay, you shit. People aren't born with a sexuality at all. You develop your sexuality based on stimuli you receive, most likely as a prepubescent. Nobody chooses to be gay though. The only reason you can't see the parallels is that you've never had to go through adversity, so you deny that anyone else has.

  • "I believe that America is the greatest country on Earth, mainly because anybody, regardless of race, religion, background, or financial status can reach their own goals through hard work and determination." ~MCJ62

    Except gays, right?

  • what about the people that want polygamy, or even a thought of being able to marry an animal. i know it sounds crazy and stupid, but you can not deny that as a possibility. my point of view is, if you are going to legalize gay marriage. you better be ready to hear people asking for such rights as these whats going to be there argument? you are taking our rights to happiness. so think about that, when you argue that gay marriage should be legal.

  • The difference is than we're talking about sentient human adults, capable of making decisions for themselves. An animal cannot reliably communicate with humans, so we cannot know whether or not it truly wishes to engage in such behavior. Polygamy is illegal because it has a rather reliable track record of being abusive. If we found a way to know the wishes of animals, and we find out that they indeed wish to have sex with humans, why not? As it stands, we have no such way to tell.

  • two beings that can sign a legally binding contract should have the right to get married... because that is all the marriage is as far as the state is concerned. That is why you can be married under the age of 18 with the consent of your legal guardian.

    I don't have a problem with gay marriage because what guy has a problem with girl on girl? And gay guys only means less competition!

  • There is no particular reason that beastiality would be considered wrong except that animals cannot give consent. Neither can children, as they have not yet reached the age where they can legally enter contracts or decide for themselves in matters of grave consequence. So, your argument is moot and bullshit.

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