Transmitting moral values regarding behavior cannot be avoided - true. But homosexuality is not a behavior but an orientation. It encompasses things like levels of arousal and attraction. It is based in biology. In brief, it is a mode of being - the way someone is. There is no moral problem here. The red-haired lady is right. Notice how she quickly pointed out that a couple who discriminated against darker skinned people are also at fault. She's absolutely right.
You can't teach sexuality. :3 It may not be prejudice, but I enjoy noticing that its the older generations that if any, they are the ones that are most harsh.
@EqualAndFree is not the same. the Scriptures don't say anything about racial segregation, religious segregation yes, but not racial. Now, the Old Testament condems homosexuality, and the New testament condems homosexuality and lesbianism. We can't change that.
All my friends likes lesbians n supports pro-gay marriage and when i invite them to read the Bible they are not interested.
Well, I must admit, Christians are extremely boring, so.... Who wants to listen a preacher when they can watch 2 hot lesbians kissings???? I mean being a pervert is fun, being a polite christian is boring
@axs2 I agree with zelph. I'm homosexual and i don't impose my sexual life on others. It's not like i diabolically plan in my secret gay basement how i'm going to turn others into being homosexuals. Also if you mean imposing our lifestyle by not being ashamed to show affection to our partners in public the cuff me cause I'm guilty
I've been working with children of all ages for 17 years now and this subject has never come up. The likelyhood of it coming up at the age of 5-8 is extremely unlikely especially if the goverment were to stop pre sexualising children with Sex Ed. which in my opiniion is a child abuse in itself. Do Derby counsil ask non religious persons if they use Jesus Christ as a swear word or talk derogatory about religions incase they may put their anti christian/ God views on the child. I doubt it.
Wow, look how far society has fallen, that this sort of debate would ever take place. Homo(sexuality) trumps decent Christian values and, morality. God will judge this pereverse generation! Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
i think that family should have been able to foster. I am supporter of gay marriage, and allowing gays to adopt. But everybody has their own oppion, and they should be able to have it. We may not agree with each other, but people who support gay marriage and allowing gays to adopt want to have their own oppions and want the same opportunities, we can not take others oppions away and not allow them to foster. That would be hypocritical of us.
@Chuichupachichi People have debated on the rights and ilberties of others for centuries and will probably still continue. It is not just homosexuality that is debated upon, it used to be based on colour and religious beliefs.
The abominable practice of homosexuality is indeed taking prevalence in this blind society. I am shocked that I. Duncan Smith took this stupid PC view!!
@axs2 Society is not blind, it is just people have realised that it isn't any of their business who other people choose to love. If you don't like it don't stick your nose in it. Simple.
@loonylezzy It is not that simple because it is not only about who people love. If it was that simple, no one would bother. But the issue is that the homosexual movement is keen and active to impose on others their sick lifestyle. It is not just words but reality. You do not need to specialise in this area to notice it. You just need to be honest.
"the homosexual movement is keen and active to impose on others their sick lifestyle."
Oh, really? Go ahead, tell us how gays are trying to impose on you? Are they making you have gay sex? Are they forcing you to go to gay clubs? Are they stopping you from believing in your religion? Do tell!
And then, while you're at it.... go ahead and explain to us how being gay is "sick". Have any proof of that?
Or perhaps you're just using these "issues" to simply hide your bigotry....
An entire panel & society of people contemplate & debate these issues only because society has already determined that homosexuality is legitimate & harmless. Yet, even while they're in the very midst of the problems & strife that didn't used to exist, but that now do exist, due to homosexuality, they still remain blind to the destruction that homosexuality wreaks upon society
If it were not for the perpetuation of homosexuality, these very debated problems, and many more, wouldn't even exist
@Chuichupachichi Homosexuality does not cause destruction, If I had my way i'd take all the anti-homophobes who make up bullshit and dump them in a volcano. Dam haters! God will take care of you!!!!!
@Chuichupachichi How could you even say that the liberties and freedome a person is entitled to regardless of sexuality is a burden to society especially something as irrelevent as homosexuality. Homosexuality itself does not cause any conflict or issues within a society, it is other people who are so against this way of life that create these issues and problems. You also cannot say that these types of issues are simply down to homosexuality.
David Starky is one of those classic Gay self hater's who believes that government shouldn't be involved in the government placed foster families when it comes to helping children discover who they are and be in a safe wholesome environment. There is a danger in wanting things to be as they were when it was dangerous to come out of the closet and this man is the spitting image of that danger and should not be promoting it by disagreeing with the courts views on this case.
"Quest For Authentic Manhood?" Oh, puhleese! Most real men, both gay and straight, don't need to be watching videos on how to be an authentic man. It's something that they just are.
There is no evidence at all that children raised in with same sex parents are any different than any other children, and I mean there is none, not one shred. For a great testimony to this, watch the YouTube video "Zach Wahls Speaks About Family." Somehow, I don't think he needs Robert Lewis' silly videos.
There are certain types of love and mentoring that can exist only between men and only between women. Any human being, especially a child, needs both! Robert Lewis's course on "Quest for Authentic Manhood" vividly proves how being overly bonded with your mother, and/or not being bonded with your father, leaves deep wounds disabling men from life. I don't believe it's any different for women. As unconscious as it sometimes may be!
If anyone believes that a child is not vulnerable at an early age, they should do some honest, objective research. There are volumes of reseach confirming that a child's intellectual, social and emotional capacity is set within the first 4 years of life. Therefore maximum parental attention is absolutely crucial. And the atheist is completely right about the unlikelihood of raising a child without passing on their moral beliefs, no matter how crooked!
Being a Christian, Christ forms my heart's desire and that is to glorify Him! I therefore believe that the Bible is the word of God and not altered to suit anyone's preference. We can manipulate all we want, but the Truth of God will prevail forever! That is why Christ is bringing me into greater love and godly male bonding that goes much deeper than the strongest homosexual bond ever will. I speak from experience!!
The following statement about the recent actions of the Church of Scotland in May 2011 shows a true Christian perspective, and why real Christians should shun this hateful propaganda.
The Assembly also voted to acknowledge the impact of homophobic bigotry. “It is contrary to God’s will that Christians should be hostile in any way to a person because he or she is homosexual by orientation and in his or her practice,” stated the adopted text. “In other words we view homophobia as sinful.”
Personally, i like men.
Zsuigh 2 weeks ago
Transmitting moral values regarding behavior cannot be avoided - true. But homosexuality is not a behavior but an orientation. It encompasses things like levels of arousal and attraction. It is based in biology. In brief, it is a mode of being - the way someone is. There is no moral problem here. The red-haired lady is right. Notice how she quickly pointed out that a couple who discriminated against darker skinned people are also at fault. She's absolutely right.
TheBrimstonetitan 4 weeks ago
You can't teach sexuality. :3 It may not be prejudice, but I enjoy noticing that its the older generations that if any, they are the ones that are most harsh.
cjcpanther 4 weeks ago
I am gay Christian. I am not trying to suppress my own religious beliefs.
Spagnotic 2 months ago
@EqualAndFree is not the same. the Scriptures don't say anything about racial segregation, religious segregation yes, but not racial. Now, the Old Testament condems homosexuality, and the New testament condems homosexuality and lesbianism. We can't change that.
trifulquita15 5 months ago
YES, DEFINITiVELY
All my friends likes lesbians n supports pro-gay marriage and when i invite them to read the Bible they are not interested.
Well, I must admit, Christians are extremely boring, so.... Who wants to listen a preacher when they can watch 2 hot lesbians kissings???? I mean being a pervert is fun, being a polite christian is boring
trifulquita15 5 months ago
@trifulquita15 From your comment you don't appear to be a polite christian
Spagnotic 2 months ago
most if not all homosexuals come forth from hetero sexual families and are profoundly confused.....
thepitnemesis 7 months ago
@axs2 I agree with zelph. I'm homosexual and i don't impose my sexual life on others. It's not like i diabolically plan in my secret gay basement how i'm going to turn others into being homosexuals. Also if you mean imposing our lifestyle by not being ashamed to show affection to our partners in public the cuff me cause I'm guilty
loonylezzy 7 months ago
I've been working with children of all ages for 17 years now and this subject has never come up. The likelyhood of it coming up at the age of 5-8 is extremely unlikely especially if the goverment were to stop pre sexualising children with Sex Ed. which in my opiniion is a child abuse in itself. Do Derby counsil ask non religious persons if they use Jesus Christ as a swear word or talk derogatory about religions incase they may put their anti christian/ God views on the child. I doubt it.
yobojoful 7 months ago
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Wow, look how far society has fallen, that this sort of debate would ever take place. Homo(sexuality) trumps decent Christian values and, morality. God will judge this pereverse generation! Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
ChompGa 7 months ago
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ChompGa 7 months ago
i think that family should have been able to foster. I am supporter of gay marriage, and allowing gays to adopt. But everybody has their own oppion, and they should be able to have it. We may not agree with each other, but people who support gay marriage and allowing gays to adopt want to have their own oppions and want the same opportunities, we can not take others oppions away and not allow them to foster. That would be hypocritical of us.
StevieDawn1016 7 months ago
@Chuichupachichi People have debated on the rights and ilberties of others for centuries and will probably still continue. It is not just homosexuality that is debated upon, it used to be based on colour and religious beliefs.
loonylezzy 8 months ago
The abominable practice of homosexuality is indeed taking prevalence in this blind society. I am shocked that I. Duncan Smith took this stupid PC view!!
axs2 8 months ago
@axs2 Society is not blind, it is just people have realised that it isn't any of their business who other people choose to love. If you don't like it don't stick your nose in it. Simple.
loonylezzy 8 months ago
@loonylezzy It is not that simple because it is not only about who people love. If it was that simple, no one would bother. But the issue is that the homosexual movement is keen and active to impose on others their sick lifestyle. It is not just words but reality. You do not need to specialise in this area to notice it. You just need to be honest.
axs2 7 months ago
@axs2
"the homosexual movement is keen and active to impose on others their sick lifestyle."
Oh, really? Go ahead, tell us how gays are trying to impose on you? Are they making you have gay sex? Are they forcing you to go to gay clubs? Are they stopping you from believing in your religion? Do tell!
And then, while you're at it.... go ahead and explain to us how being gay is "sick". Have any proof of that?
Or perhaps you're just using these "issues" to simply hide your bigotry....
ZelphKinderhook 7 months ago
An entire panel & society of people contemplate & debate these issues only because society has already determined that homosexuality is legitimate & harmless. Yet, even while they're in the very midst of the problems & strife that didn't used to exist, but that now do exist, due to homosexuality, they still remain blind to the destruction that homosexuality wreaks upon society
If it were not for the perpetuation of homosexuality, these very debated problems, and many more, wouldn't even exist
Chuichupachichi 8 months ago
@Chuichupachichi Homosexuality does not cause destruction, If I had my way i'd take all the anti-homophobes who make up bullshit and dump them in a volcano. Dam haters! God will take care of you!!!!!
smurfboywv 8 months ago
@Chuichupachichi How could you even say that the liberties and freedome a person is entitled to regardless of sexuality is a burden to society especially something as irrelevent as homosexuality. Homosexuality itself does not cause any conflict or issues within a society, it is other people who are so against this way of life that create these issues and problems. You also cannot say that these types of issues are simply down to homosexuality.
loonylezzy 8 months ago
David Starky is one of those classic Gay self hater's who believes that government shouldn't be involved in the government placed foster families when it comes to helping children discover who they are and be in a safe wholesome environment. There is a danger in wanting things to be as they were when it was dangerous to come out of the closet and this man is the spitting image of that danger and should not be promoting it by disagreeing with the courts views on this case.
the1tigglet 8 months ago
Intelligent, open-minded debate.
brianv00 8 months ago
"Quest For Authentic Manhood?" Oh, puhleese! Most real men, both gay and straight, don't need to be watching videos on how to be an authentic man. It's something that they just are.
There is no evidence at all that children raised in with same sex parents are any different than any other children, and I mean there is none, not one shred. For a great testimony to this, watch the YouTube video "Zach Wahls Speaks About Family." Somehow, I don't think he needs Robert Lewis' silly videos.
RCSVirginia 8 months ago
There are certain types of love and mentoring that can exist only between men and only between women. Any human being, especially a child, needs both! Robert Lewis's course on "Quest for Authentic Manhood" vividly proves how being overly bonded with your mother, and/or not being bonded with your father, leaves deep wounds disabling men from life. I don't believe it's any different for women. As unconscious as it sometimes may be!
SuperBosvark 8 months ago
If anyone believes that a child is not vulnerable at an early age, they should do some honest, objective research. There are volumes of reseach confirming that a child's intellectual, social and emotional capacity is set within the first 4 years of life. Therefore maximum parental attention is absolutely crucial. And the atheist is completely right about the unlikelihood of raising a child without passing on their moral beliefs, no matter how crooked!
SuperBosvark 8 months ago
Being a Christian, Christ forms my heart's desire and that is to glorify Him! I therefore believe that the Bible is the word of God and not altered to suit anyone's preference. We can manipulate all we want, but the Truth of God will prevail forever! That is why Christ is bringing me into greater love and godly male bonding that goes much deeper than the strongest homosexual bond ever will. I speak from experience!!
SuperBosvark 8 months ago
The following statement about the recent actions of the Church of Scotland in May 2011 shows a true Christian perspective, and why real Christians should shun this hateful propaganda.
The Assembly also voted to acknowledge the impact of homophobic bigotry. “It is contrary to God’s will that Christians should be hostile in any way to a person because he or she is homosexual by orientation and in his or her practice,” stated the adopted text. “In other words we view homophobia as sinful.”
RCSVirginia 8 months ago
Wow. This is so bizarre just to watch. Irony and intrigue abound.
Lukyo1984 11 months ago