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  • cummins nothin better

  • I like he sound of the cummins better.

  • Mrjakediesel. Lol. Id rather still be strokin. Than cummin cuz when you're cummin. No more strokin.

  • Id rather be cummin than strokin

  • duhh the cummins

  • Im a fan of both but ford but I wish urs was a 97

  • Got to say stroker... Not any thing against the dodge

    But I never have really delt with one

  • I have a 90 idi turbo my father has a 95 psd my buddy has a cummins the dodge and the psd sound better than my idi but mine pulls stronger I know it doesn't make sense but I have 4:10 gears they both have 4:56 gears we all pull the same trailers with the same loaders and I can pull away from them but they do sound good!!!

  • IDI's suck and have always sucked...cummins all the way

  • Both r nice trucks, I've owned both a 01 cummins and now own a 99 psd and by far the powerstroke sounds better and as far as performance goes I'd say it's a tie

  • By the way, my company has 5 ford diesels and 1 dodge diesel and everyone fights to use the Dodge diesel because it starts in the cold morning and pulls much better then the powerstrokers. Like they say 6 in a row make em go ! :) 

  • Cummins all the way, 3 times the engine, a powerstroke could ever think of being.

  • THE CUMMINS ALWAYS SOUNDS GOOD. THE 7.3 SOUNDS GOOD ALSO.... I HAVE A 7.3 POWER STROKE AND LOVE THE TURBO SOUND WHEN I SHIFT GEARS. BUT ALL IN ALL I WOULD SAY ITS A TIE. AS LONG ITS NOT A JAPP DURAMAX;)

  • dodge sound better...

  • how do you do mpg wise with the i turned up 4.5 flats

  • nice hot air intake lol

  • @kubotaboy123 Why thank you.

  • @kubotaboy123 on diesel you want hot air in the intake genius. cold air intakes are pointless in any car. it just makes the air/fuel mixture harder to ignite.

  • @faded2blak That is not true. Why would they put charge air coolers on almost all forced induction vehicles if you want hot air? According to physics, PV=nRT, a defined amount of gas (moles) at a defined temperature and pressure has a defined volume. At a lesser temperature, the volume is less as well (V is directly proportional to T). This means you can pack more air molecules into the combustion chamber, and ergo more fuel as well. This gives you more power.

  • @faded2blak Also, especially on a diesel, you do not want hot air in your intake as this raises the engines EGT's as well, limiting total power production and hindering engine reliability and longevity. The only time you would want warm air is during a cold start situation, hence the grid heaters used on some engines.

  • @nate0031 the amount of fuel put into the cylinders has nothing to do with the IAT the throttle on diesels are hooked directly to a fuel pump. im not saying that you want HOT air but cold air doesnt really help anything. the hotter the incoming air the better the combustion will be. no you do not want combustion so hot the engine cannot cool itself and break down but generally speaking for a better burn you want warmer air. im just saying that cold air isnt all its cracked up to be.

  • @faded2blak I agree that cold air intakes aren't all they're cracked up to be. While the amount of fuel injected on many older diesels is not dependent on the amount of air inhaled, the power and efficiency of the engine is. A diesel fuel system can continue to inject fuel, but if there is not adequate oxygen present for full combustion of all that fuel, all you get is black smoke (wasted fuel, no more power). Once the engine is running, cooler air is better (within reason).

  • @faded2blak One of the primary benefits of cooler intake air is the direct relationship to EGT's. Let's say you have 250°F air exiting the turbocharger, you then cool it to 150°F with a CAC. You've then lowered your EGT's by nearly the same amount. Instead of 1100°F you're now down to 1000°F, allowing you to give the engine more fuel and not risk melting your pistons while climbing a grade.

  • im cummins all the way but the idi sounds best at high rpms w/ a straight pipe.. cummins doesent hold a candle to the idi cackle

  • I HAVE a 91 with a add on ats

  • My money would definately be on the Dodge with the Cummins 5.9L.

    That is what like the best, Such a great Sound.

    (Ps) see my videos, petrolguy84.

  • Im a ford guy have 4fords and a dodge hate the dodge always brakeing but the moter havent had a prob yet nice vid

  • i was never much of a fan of the sound of the IDI's...but i think the PSD is the best sounding diesel on the road for pickups.

  • @flainn cool

  • @flainn what if the idi was turbo?

  • Get rid of that K&N garbage.

  • @DieselFuelForLife617 Ya I know :(

  • ford diesels sound sexy but cummins exhaust sounds like a big ass 18 wheeler

  • nice drag slicks on the ford. hahahaha.. both are awesome trucks

  • @USCisgay Home made :P

  • @dieselgaint nice...... im thinking bout getting a 1992 f350 7.3 idi with a banks sidewinder on it. r they pretty good trucks or what???

  • @USCisgay Whats the mileage on it, you need to replace injectors and injection pump every 100-150,000 miles. Other than that there great trucks if you take care of them. Is an auto or stick.

  • @dieselgaint it has 230,000 but the seller claims he recently replaced the pump, injectors and tranny. its an auto.

  • @USCisgay Sounds good to me, take it on a test drive and see how it drives. It should idle smooth and have good power and smooth shifts.

  • 7.3 all the way!

  • Nice 7.3. That's in a lot better shape than my '93 F250, but I like the upgrades they made to the look for my gen (headlights, gauges, etc.). And it really is too bad it's an automatic. But ya can't win 'em all, I guess.

  • I love ur F-250.

  • Cool vid! There's nothing like the sound of spooling turbo's and diesel injectors firing in the morning!

  • @traxxasmaxx33 true dat

  • most v8s ran quiter

  • nice running cummins but looks like shit

  • is your dad going to want to sell that 94 in 2 years?

  • @2strokedetroit its my gramps truck, and no he's not planing to sell it

  • @dieselgaint sorry, and with such an awesome truck, cant blame me for asking.

    Props to that IDI too. Never been in a modded one, but while those stock ones might be a little sluggish, YOU CANNOT KILL THEM.

  • Dodge all the way, Cummins and Dodge you can't go wrong. powerjokes on the other hand.... money flys out your wallet. Cummins hands down

  • Ford idi all the way, love everything about them. Dodges are sweet, but Ford wins my vote

  • The international IDIs and the cummins were the best damn motors in that time period.

  • Damn that is a clean ford. She looks good

  • i love the ford but kudos for the dodge. good trucks

  • cummins

  • they both sound great to me.

  • i gotta vote for the 7.3. Still like cummings but that just because its in our semi. either engine will last a long time but if you don't maintain it or if you just beat it to death neither will last long.

  • I like the sound of the 7.3 better, but the turbo on the cummins sounds cool too.

    I have a 6.5 turbo diesel that sounds great at idol but at anything above 2000rpms it sounds like a gas motor

  • The 6.9/7.3 IDI were a very reliable motor and good decent performance without a turbo. The only thing i like about 6.2s is the 24 mpg you can achieve. Nothing more...

  • I like the ultra loud crackle of the detroit 6.5 turbo better. Still, gotta luv Cummins, and the 7.3. I would dare buy a Dodge, and its to bad, cause I like cummins. But have heard and seen TO many Dodge horror storys. So it would be a Powerstroke 7.3, Detroit 6.5 turbo, or Dmax 6.6!

  • Ok i own a 88 f-350 idi and my fuel pressure is cranked up quit a bit so can anyone tell how to turn it down just a lil. Thanks

  • @15puckett did you turn it up yourself, if so just turn the fuel screw counter clock wise. If not Google "Low Buck Diesel Power" find the 6.9/7.3IDI section and they will tell how to turn it up, the same process is done to turn it down.

  • Werent the IDIs Detriot Diesels? I just find it funny (if they are) that Ford used Detroit IDIs while Chevy used the 6.5 Detriot turbo engine! And werent Powerstrokes detroits too?

  • @Motorfordtoyota The term IDI was never associated with Detroit or Ford. IDI just means indirect injected. Now people who own Ford 6.9/7.3 non turbo diesels refer to them as IDI's. 6.9's/7.3's were made by International/Navistar, while the 6.2 &6.5 diesels were designed by Detroit but were not manufactured by detroit, but under GM, That's how I know it to be any way.

  • @Motorfordtoyota the IDI's used in the Ford pickups were actually made by International Harvester or more in other terms Navistar, the Chevy IDI's were made by Detroit diesel but were also available in a similar turbocharged version though, i know these cuz i own a 1985 Ford F250 6.9IDI and my best freind has a 1994 Chevy 3500 6.5 Detroit

  • @700wildcat Yeah I figured that out right after the comment I posted. Navistar/Ford. Detroit/GM. And the GM wasnt turboed until 92 or so, when it was enlarged to 6.5 litres. And they have been DFI motors since the mid 70's.

  • @Motorfordtoyota and the powerstrokes were navistar too, find them in the navistar trucks under t-444e and vt-365 conotations

  • The Ford sounded the beefiest.....having said that...put a turbo on her and really put that shit dodge to shame

  • thanks brings back memories of my 1990 f 250 super cab i miss it the 7.3 was bullet proof and i miss the clunk of the doors. thanks again.

  • ford sounds good..

  • man u are really helping me out i appreciate it

  • if u check out my favorite videos theres a 94 that shows the turbo and all and thats what that junked on looks like

  • thanks man what is the pryometer do ? and that junked truck i believe it is a 94 its not a powerstroke but i would have to get the intake off to right?

  • @Fravelj you don't need the actual intake manifold but you need the part that goes from the turbo to the intake manifold called the intake hat.

  • thanks man what is the pryometer do ?

  • @Fravelj it measures your exhaust gas temps, you need on to monitor the temps when you turn it up. If you get it to hot you could melt or crack a piston, score the cylinder walls and just bad stuff.

  • i have a 89 f250 its straight pipe 7.3L 5 inch stack how did u turn ur fuel up ? and i dont know if u will know this on not but i found a junked 94 with a turbo i was wondering if u knew if it would bolt up on mine?

  • @Fravelj google "low buck diesel power" its the ford 6.9/7.3 IDI section, and the junked truck, make sure it is an IDI and not a power stroke, if it is an IDI then every thing will work fine, just make sure you get all the little things like the valve covers, glow plug wiring harness, and the CDR valve stuff.

  • cummins

  • @TractorBoy881 cdls 18

  • @TractorBoy881 Um, if you mean to young for a CDL yes, but my truck doesn't require a CDL just a good ol drivers license.

  • @dieselgaint You can get a cdl at 18 just cant drive outta state an nice truck btw

  • the ford. i love cummins to death. awesome motors. but im a die-hard ford guy, and you just cant beat that diesel grunt combined with awesome V8 sound.

  • dude whats ur mpg on ur ford? and is it a slug?

  • @mirc225 the best I've got was 22hwy, I average 16 city/hwy, no not really a slug but not fast, I hit 110mph in it with my new rev limiter. I really need to make a new video of it.

  • Wow ! Nice idi Ford it really sounds great it runs like a new engine, how many miles does it have ?

    The Cummins I like the Dodge I don't unless you like destroyed dashboards and such.

    Off topic a bit but I can not believe that the U.S military used vehicles with the 6.2L and 6.5L Detroit diesels instead of a vehicle with a more powerful and reliable diesel like the 7.3powerstroke or cummins how sick would the Hummer be if it cam with a real engine !

  • 7.3!!!!!

  • @stickfishy Oh, so close, International/Navistar as they were called at the time made the IDI's and the 7.3/6.0 powerstrokes, the emissions tag on my motor says International Navistar. I don't know about the 6.4 I think it was just Navistar

  • @dieselgaint Yup i believe you are correct, the only Ford diesel engine made of late that was in house and not by International/Navistar would be the new 6.7.

  • CUMMINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the ford

  • 7.3 IDI w/ 5 spd manual trans is one of the best rucks ever built in my opinion

  • @HUTCHtopher  i agree i have a 1994 f250 idi turbo diesel 5 spd awsome truck but i still got to give cummins a props i love the stright 6 sound love it

  • Definitely the Cummins!

  • CUMMINS WINS.

  • ive owned a 2007 f250 6.0 and i really have never had any problems what so ever ...good luck i guess

  • I think the 7.3 idi was louder personally. I love the way a diesel sounds no matter what brand, but i'm a Ford guy and love the old idi motors. Ford ftw.

  • Put the 12v into the Ford and you will have win.

  • all non turbo diesel sound like shit and cummins no matter what always sound better!!!

  • I like the Cummins, especially since it has a turbo, which sounded great when you revved it. I also like how the 7.3 sounds. When International gave the 7.3 electronics and a turbocharger, they called it the T444E, which sounds slightly different than the 7.3 (for the better, in my opinion). Very nice video!

  • 5-speed manual and it's even a dog leg! Only a 3k redline?

  • haha all id be happy with any truck, for Chevy or dodge.

  • Personally im a ford guy, but cummins and international (not including the 6.0) make really good engines if you take care of them... still like my ford though =)

  • hey what about a acceleration comparison between the two??

  • dodge

  • i like the sound of both. i would love to get my hands on a 5.9 with a 5 speed. and swap it into a 78 or 79 bronco.

  • Cummins sound better

  • whered you get the gauge pod that fits on the pillar?

  • you can really hear the rev difference with the one that has the turbo. it reaches higher revs faster even with the turbo leg. im personally a sucker for the turbo whine.

    your truck sounds like it has more bottom end beef for really starting a heavy hull off a dead stop.

  • i like your ford truck, it is mint condition for the year!

  • @saskmatt7 thanks its not in perfect condition but every thing still works great

  • my hybrid sounds better

  • @brandon32405 your an idiot. diesels are the best. no polution, better gasmileage than gassers in the same setup. and also more power.

  • come on, where is the Chevy 6.5, I like the dodge the best, i don't like Fords.

  • @Motorfordtoyota if i had on i would have compared that on to

  • GOD i wish we had our vrew cab 86 7.3 IDI back i love it sound way better than the cummins and way better than the powerstroke to wich is cun=mmins but you know

  • I love how ford sounds with a straight pipe i own a 01 7.3 with a straight pipe and it sounds awesome but Idk which engine is better the 7.3's were great engines.

  • i like ford idi diesel

  • but the Idi is nice

  • CUMMINS!

  • Can't really go wrong with either truck. I'd rather own a Dodge, but the Ford's with the IDIs are great. Anything but a Chevy.

  • @spartus09 Then you sir are an idiot because thats the only thing that runs is Chevy

  • @20ALERO02 .....You're right. Those GM diesels from the 80s were real winners. Chump.

  • the saying for the old 5.9 cummins are, its a 350,000 mile truck raped around a million mile engine. and there is no better sound than the 12v 5.9 cummins. nothing out lasts it. im not knocking the international but cummins all the way.

  • @my92d350 More like, a million mile motor wrapped in a 20 mile truck. dodge makes the worst shit Ive seen.

  • all i got to say is both trucks are nice ... ive owned both the 7.3 idi trucks and a some 12 valve dodges with the ve injection pump.....

    alot better then the 6.2 or turbo 6.5 detriots made for the gm's those years

  • hmm, i dont remember my 96  dodge having a buzzer

  • very nice ford man i have the same one how do you turn the pump up

  • no its reputation is 350000

  • Cummins owns all

  • All you idiots think the Ford is a Powerstroke. It's not, it's a Navistar 6.9L or a 7.3. Older, but made alot better. Nothing wrong with Cummins though, even if they put the engine in a Dodge.

  • Thank you! Finally someone knows what engine their talking about, very true indeed the Ford has a International Diesel, I can't remember what International Called them, but it is most definitely not a Powerstroke, Thank you for pointing that out.

  • early international 7.3 IDI motors were 444 cube with a stanadyne rotary injection pump that eat themselves alive with the ULSD fuel, the same pump GM's detroit diesel-built 6.2 and 6.5's used.. powerstrokes are the same basic design as the IDI motors but 446 cube, different heads, pistons, and direct injection with electronic injectors located under the valve covers. all 446's are turbos, only a few IDI 444's got factory turbos, ATS and banks made numerous aftermarket kits for them though.

  • @dieselgaint the 7.3 powerstroke is also international its the t444e the one in our 01 f259 has been great

  • @roddyyy524 you right with engine but mine is not a t444e that series came out in 94 but only with a manual until 95, mine is a 90 and my engine came out in 1983 as a 6.9 and in 88 they made the 7.3 version of the 6.9, same internals except they had different heads and pistons I believe, the t444e or powerchoke is completely different.

  • @dieselgaint my dad had a 91 idi and the only problem it had was the belts would snap every 8-10000 miles, the 7.3 powerstroke that he has now has had little problems, the biggest one so far was a thotle control and it has almost 200000 miles on it, so i wouldnt say its a bad motor but i like all three

  • @CARPEATBREAD Thats how dumb you are, yes Navistar makes the engine but they brand it as a Power Stroke

  • cummins :) thats ny opinion

  • One thing that's purely a fact that can not be argued is that the Cummins Turbo Diesel motor (esp the 12 Valve) has FAR LESS moving parts than just about any Diesel or Gas motor on the market...less parts means less things can go wrong. less parts in a motor....less parts that can break. That's a Fact.

    p.s. I like the comment about Ford guys putting the Cummins Motors in their trucks but you don't see any one putting a Power Stroke in a Dodge haha, Very Nice.

  • @casualty178 why would anyone put a powerstroke in an ugly dodge. The cummins 5.9 is a nice engine, which is why a person would want to put it in a nice truck. ford = better axles, transmissions, and looks (interior and exterior) than dodge, so putting a cummins in a ford is a good idea. i plan on putting a 12v in mine one day.

  • i think the cummins sounds better that what i like about cummins but the idi will last way longer my f250 has 373000 original miles an it runs perfect does anybody agree?

  • powerstroke was when they became computer controlled. pretty sure 94 was a 7.3 idi with a turbo but it was mechanical. im not a ford guy tho so correct me if i am wrong

  • ca'mon man no disrespect to your truck or nothin but who wouldnt rather be cummin than strokin lol

  • rather be strokin then walking lol

  • If powerstrokes are better than cummins, than why do ford owners swap out their powerstrokes for a cummins???

  • @12VCTD cuz they dont

  • You have my vote for the IDI, but just FYI for all of you, cummins is not as great as they all make them seem to be. The powerstrokes are just as good as a cummins, they are all motors, they'll all have problems, they are mechanical somthing WILL go wrong at one point. But in our experience The powerstrokes have out done the cummins trucks

  • there both good truck the cummins i better and sound good and there only one thing done to it

  • Cummins sounds the best...cant beat that inline 6

  • the 7.3

  • The cummis sounds badass at idie and when revving.

  • Lol I like both fords and dodges, but I could tell the first one was the dodge because of that Hellish door ajar beeper, personally I like the IDI

  • the IDI sounds best i think

  • ur pops cummins is were its at brotha.

  • fuck dodge and chevy! Ford is where its at!

  • PowerStroke love best truck ever made 4 real man

  • bullshit. the cummins inline 6 engine is far superior to the powerstroke V8

  • oh really how about the 6.4 wiht a spartan chip have u seen how fast they are wiht just the chip ore how about the new 6.7 that the ford is making how much better do u realy think a doge is

  • i'm not saying dodge is great. in truth i have my own ford diesel and put a 2005 cummins in it and it preforms better than it did with the powerstroke. my cummins crank 395 hp with 960flbs of torque compared to the 380 and 800flbs of torque. btw CHECK YOUR SPELLING

  • @ Spartan1990x2 ( Well said ) : )

    Anyone who loves the International Motors. say that Cummins' Motors are shit. Anyone who loves Cummins say that Internationals are shit. Then you have the people that like both. Metal is Metal, and bolts are bolts.

  • ya ford is so good with diesel engines having to put out a new design every couple of years because the last one fucked up

  • shows what you know....the changes are for emissions you asswipe.

  • @caseyn720 cummins has mulitple size engines also do your homework

  • @kaziwill i know cummins makes different sized engines im not retarded. but they are good reliable engines unlike the fords. also if you are so in love with fords pick up the february 2011 edition of diesel power and see how the new "greatest diesel of them all"ford 6.7L does up against an engine with less power. pretty pathetic how badly it does.

  • Man all the old diesels sounds good other than the chevy diesels. I've owned both and got more than 700,000 miles out of both so can say witch it better. I got better milage out of the Dodge. There both great diesels. How ever I think that the Dodge sounds better due to the turbo sound. With the loud diesel and the whistle of the turbo it just sounds mean.

  • Whether you like the Dodge Cummins or not...the Cummins B Series is not a junk motor...

    And the Powerchoke flutter sound is terrible

  • 5.9 cummins will pull any P.O.S(ford) in circles any day. but personally i like the sound of 03 6.0 stroker they got the loudest turbos but its still a ford so its just as useful as an ashtray on a motorcyle. CTD baby!!!

  • I have personally hauled more 5.9 cummins home then I can count behind my 7.3 powerstroke. All those poor KDP

  • It's cause Cummins motors are strong enough to break shit. Everyone has their own opinions. Those 6.0 Diesel Engines from ford were pieces of shits : )

  • @ all4jarret prev. comment.

  • @Metalhead0166 yes the 6L was but this is a 7.3L and there never was a problem with them ford just wanted more power.