The Macedonians -3- Discovery Channel -Ancient Warriors 3 of 4

[fitzrapid]

Its hilarious how Greek keyboard experts use their own historians as authority to prove their claims. These are the same historians who created this mess. Its like George W Bush's biographer writing a piece justifying the Iraqi invasion and 2000 yrs from now kids used his work as justification for the invasion and occupation.

Why does Alexander refer to them as "Greeks" and not Athenians/Thebans? They are clearly distancing themselves from Greeks, why do Greeks still insist they're the same.

[dimarco2world]

Greeks are the people who share the greek language, the greek culture, the greek religion and the greek civilization no matter of colour or origin.

Macedonians, as well as Spartans, Athenians etc , shared all the above.

They used to fight each other as well, but that doesn't make them different nations.

Whoever doubts about the Origin of Macedonians, the only he has to do is to read History and /or to visit Vergina and the museums in Thesaloniki.After that all his questions will be answered.

[puncyy]

Thanks God IM a Macedonian..Alexander the Great Macedonioan cill and sold greeks like SLAVES!!FACT::LONG LIVE MACEDONIA:::MACEDONIA E VECNA::SMRT ZA DUSMANITE!!!!!

[JOVANTUS100]

LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[guysmiley00]

Oh, for God's sake - are people still arguing over which 20th-century nation gets to claim ancient Macedon? Maybe if you people actually got up and did something with your lives, you wouldn't be reduced to bickering over who gets to ride the rotting coattails of men dead over twenty centuries.

[Timurchin1]

greeces stop stealing other countrys heros

[Zamudiokid]

Spartans. Enough said.

[dimitriev01041986]

so if we all speak english we are all english... you greek people sound pathetic thats for sure ... whole world is laughing on you

[tegmen1975]

Discovery Channel says macedonians andgreece aradifferent nations. but interestingly greeks still claim makedonians are greek. greeks must be learn true history in their country.

[Bjjownsu10]

Only Greeks speak Greek, no Slavs speak Greek. So, if the Macedonians speak Greek they must be Greek.

[piqwry71]

Alexander planned his father Phillip's death. Yes or no? Discuss.

[fp470]

No its much more fun to discuss idiotic and fabricated 20th century nationalism and attempt to apply it to a pre-babarian and Turkich invasion of ancient Europe.

[ARXHMalakas]

his wife i think

[sahajad]

No, some said it was Philipps former lover Pausanias.

However history reports that Alexander suspected his mother for a long time !

[Jackthemeat]

That does it, its 100% clear to me now that Alexander was a Macedonian who Conquered the greeks.

[whowantsabighug]

theres is something much cooler looking about a thracian helmet or phrygian than a corinthian hlmet

[TJComer02]

You guys sound like Ricers fighting with American muscle, except you actually have more at stake besides world supercar domination

[UberMaKedoN]

The ethnic distinction between the Macedonians and the Hellenes is emphasized by other authors as well. Namely, Alexander III the Great, as Plutarchus wrote, told his soldiers:

"For the Macedonians, I will conquer the world...but not for the Hellenes."

Plutarchus, Alexander, 47

[UberMaKedoN]

"The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian" - Arrian

"Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks." Borza"

The suggestion is surely that Macedonian was the language of the infantry and that the Greek was a difficult indeed a foreign tongue to them". Badian

So, if any stubborn greek/ethiopian, albanian or vulgarian got problems with us Macedonians, can buzz off and be jealous...

[CAKIMacedonian]

Macedonia for the Macedonians!

[Macedonia1913]

George Cawkwell, Emeritus Fellow, University College, Oxford:

"The Macedonians were Greeks."

("Philip of Macedon", Faber & Faber, London, 1978, p. 22)

[ellamou]

Your envoys corrupted my friends and sought to destroy the peace which I established among the Greeks.

Anabasis.

[forevermkd]

Macedonia is older than Greece,Macedonian nation is older than Greek,Macedonian symbols are golden sun and lion,the symbol of VMRO is lion!

[Thoukudides]

i love the part about alexander

have u read alexander's response to Darius?

the script survived and u can find it on the internet

search 'Alexander's reply to Darius'

in the letter Alexander wrote in his language (Greek) that he was a Greek

[1mkd1]

Alexander the Great (336-323 BC), Philip II's son took the Macedonian armies even further and conquered the Persian Empire, making Macedonia the largest and most powerful nation in the world for centuries to come. In his army next to the Macedonians, he utilized also troops from the Balkan nations that his father Philip II conquered - Greeks, Illyrians, and Thracians. The Greeks in the Macedonian army however were commanded by Macedonians

[englishspear]

Philip & Alexander defeated two cities in order to save all the rest from their hegemony. Many cities greeted Alexander as a hero, equal to Hercules.

[englishspear]

As the Lacedemonians the Athenians etc etc etc

[highlandstag]

trouble is the mongols was in the 13th century this is BC

[Voyzor]

1) Mongols were outnumbering

2) Mongols conquered half known world in 2 centuries

3) Our ancestors, the Macedonians, conquered in 10 years

4) Try comparing again. Have a nice time.

[kopileegh16]

Why the hell do u compare Mongols to Macedonians?? Mongols never had any tactics!!! They were very fierce in battle, never giving up...that is true... But take that bravery and somewhat same fierceness, with 100% winning tactics by the rule of the great Macedonian emperors, Philip II Macedon and Alexander the Macedon... That fierceness is nothing compared to the genius tactics of the Macedonian military organization and discipline.

[thebreakd0wn]

really? the Mongols conquered half the world without a sound strategy and good tactics? They would charge with cavalry then enemy would stand in defencive position the Mongols would fire their arrows and retreat, wave after wave until the enemy's army broke.

All ancient conquerers were barbarians. Alexanders conquest of Persia was not much different than the viking raids.

[WeShallBurnInHeck]

Vikings had fucking axes and weird hats. They charged and went into chaotic battle idiot. Macedonia had a well designed phalanx with well trained calvalry that could crush any barbarian!

[TrooperLFC]

you totally missed his point and his mention of the vikings.

[IronDynamite]

Maybe you should read some books on mongols and watch some documentaries before making such comments. The mongols were sound tacticians, and were always outnumbered in battle.

[barloepota]

Mongols were the best military force until the gun age. No one could defeat them. They collapsed only because of civil war. But on the field, no one has ever defeated them

[fanisoranje]

everyone who knows history knows that mongols were defeated in egypt n syria by mameluke armies...

[kamasis]

the mamelukes were descended from the kipchaks.

[earthwormjim3D]

Mongols were nothing but bloodthirsty barbarians who burned anything they found on their way.They stabbed pregnant women in Persia.Ghenghis khan was a vampire bastard.Down with him and his hoarde.

[bengalstiger]

Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan!Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan! Ghengis Khan! The mongel empire wouldve swallowed Alexander the Greats Empire.

[zapryantakev]

LIVE BULGARIA

MACEDONIA=BULGARIA

[17gian17]

SKOPJE Macedonia, Sparta, Athens, Greta Island,Dilos,Efesus,Massalia.S­amos, Tripolis,.Argos,and go on........ They are brothers, they are brothers, they had same language, they had same enemies, they had same gods, I love SKOPJE, I love Athens, I love Sparta... we're one, we're one, please read history.-

[Napoleontas]

And you are using the word pella and Macedonia

wich those 2 words are tottaly greek words.

And the greek goverment is placed by ather powers on the backs of the greeks,when the german chancellor called macedonia the slavo skopjan country the greek prime minister reacted by saying....nothing!!! ,this is how much the greek goverment is conserned with the "macedonian issue" you realise this?

[Napoleontas]

The answer lies in the greek unity and the old Roman saying.DEVIDE AND CONQUER.They dont want to end the issue because they want to devide greece and many balkan states.And dont forget that the whole macedonian issue had began from a zionist jew named Titto.And if we think that the digging in pella is performed by Americans and not greeks you will understand why, but the one who has been inside the tomb of phillip will see the enourmus evidence of the greek origin of Makedonia

[Napoleontas]

ive went recently at the tomb of philip EVERYWERE THERE ARE GREEK SCRIPTS not slavo mongolic because anyway the skopjans are speaking a language that was created 1500 years after alexanders death.ah and you slavs read history wich is also a greek word and learn when did you came into the european continent.and also read what alexandros thought for himself

[guardian1821]

Slav barbaric tribes came to North Macedonia 10+ centuries after Alexander, so open some books to learn history: 1)Spartans are Spartans, 2)Athenians are Athenians, 3)Macedonians are Macedonians.The sum and truth according to history is that all are GREEKs :)

[MacedonianCooPer]

Greeks made genocide in Macedonia region Egei macedonia,they burn our houses and kill people of my nation.Today South Greece,region what they love and tell to be(Macedonia is Greece) is a part of Ethnic Macedonia and Greeks grab it after Second II Balkans war.THAT IS THE TRUTH.

[SilleeAmsterdam]

Well, I clearly don't have to FACE IT, Im not Macedonian OR Greek. But state once again CLEARLY, I RAN into a lot of forum comments stating that Macedonians hate to be perceived as Slavs, with which a I agree, BUT all of these comments also stated that they should be perceived as Greeks in a sense of their history. Quite weird, but understandable, nothing to get heated about, right, CooPer?

[SilleeAmsterdam]

I noticed lately how all Macedonians always seem to want to be Greek, claiming that their history is totally Greek. Well, how come they don't want to be just Macedonians - they have a huge history, taking into account Alexander at least.

[MacedonianCooPer]

SilleeAmsterdam, man who tell you that. Macedonians are Macedonians,.. who told to you that Macedonians want to be Greek,.. Macedonia have history. We are not ancient Macedonians ..Greeks are NOT ancient Greeks. But Macedonians ware never been Greek. NEVER. FACE IT.

[SilleeAmsterdam]

Oh and another thing. You're right no one is ancient. But you should understand that some areas have more mixture of culture than others. For instance, Macedonia is on a mainland and been mixed with Slavs and Eastern Europeans like totally crazy, while Greece is almost an island. So it's more isolated. So there's less mixture, other than Turks.

[papas15]

It is amazing how this video has been twisted, and falsely presented by the user who uploaded it!!!! This documentary by Discovery Channel is describing the ancient Greek kingdom of Macedon (or Greek-Macedonia). It has nothing to do with the modern republic of Slavic/Albanian-Macedonia.

[nick1tse]

No changes were made to this video. It's here, as it was created by the DISCOVERY CHANNEL. (Sorry to burst your bubble).

[MacedonianCooPer]

Oooooo shut a fuck up. this is the truth and you know it. what do you hate Macedonia? Are you NAZI or something?

[SilleeAmsterdam]

Well, Macedonians are pretty much Greeks, yet it's true that they USED TO BE Greeks, until they got totally mixed with Slavics and Albanians.

[SilleeAmsterdam]

Oh my god, YOU give Macedonians a bad image. I actually liked Macedonians and have many Macedonian friends But, Im just telling what I've observed and all you think is that everybody HATES Macedonia? Do all Macedonians have low SELF-ESTEEM and low expectations for their own self-evaluation like YOU?

Macedonians ought to be embarassed of YOU, buddy.

[MacedonianCooPer]

WAF you talking about... man. You have some ideal picture of Macedonians from ancient time. We are proud to be Macedonians.

[dzokoibsls]

Alexander moved the rest of his force in behind to prevent the Thebans from cutting Perdiccas off from the rest. The Macedonians then stormed the city, killing almost everyone in sight, women and children included. They plundered, sacked, burned and razed Thebes, as an example to the rest of Greece. Only the temples and the house of the poet Pindar were spared from distraction. Athens then quickly rethought its decision to abandon Alexander. Greece remained under Macedonian control.

[SOKOLKRUSEVO]

@papas15

At 2:02 if you understand English, you can hear thatit was "battle agains Greece". don't be so stuborn.

[TheMrMacedonian]

@papas15 hahahahhaha

[YappyRaccoon]

@papas15 Ancient Warriors is one of the most accurate and well-made historical documentaries ever made. Your outburst of ignorance only shows off your retardation.

[Herodotus90]

He conquered only Thebe from Greece,he didn't go further Then in league of Corinth he unified all the Greeks

except Spartans against the eternal enemy of Greece=Persia.