This video is on many sites with a slo-mo addition of the bird strike and more tower comms (the pilot is told Liverpool is available to land at too). I was at MAN the other week and a Qatar jet suffered a birdstrike upon landing. I watched as a Jet2 and a Thomson/Thomas Cook (can't remember which) aborted their landings while a woman drove onto the runway and picked up bits of the bird, whilst the two jets circled around before landing
I went to lanzarote 2 years ago, i used Monarch airlines instead. What happened? did they survive? i dont have sound so if they mentioned it in the video then i didn't hear it.
Air scanners in the UK ARE illegal, however the police do not usually enforce this law as long as you are only listening for personal entertainment and not being any source of threat.
Also, it would be a bad idea to land on that amount of fuel with only one engine, as need for a go around would require more engine power, which would make the plane sheer to the right very quickly if you weren't very careful. Also it just makes more sense to burn some fuel before you land. I'm no expert however :)
@GMuzicc Scanners aren't illegal and never have been, tuning them into Police frequencies was illegal but there was no way the Police could find out who was listening in. The Police have used a truncated radio system for a few years now which you won't be able to earwig but you can still get all the rest. If they would have been illegal you wouldn't have been able to go to any radio store and buy on off the shelf.
to burn off fuel are you fucking kidding lol he would have to go around to land you daft twat if he shuts the engin down its not going to burn off fuel. i think the hes was tinking about saving the passengers not panicing about fuel.
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oh my god imagine being sat near the window next to the engine and you see it bursting out fire! lol! i would be getting the bog roll out my suitcase in a flash
People seem to be missing out that a bird strike is taken seriously. When RR, GE etc test their engines, they actually throw pigeons into the turbine, even something as small as a sparrow could cause the engine to probably explode. Flying on just one engine is a hard thing to do, and when you've got 200+ lives on board, you'd have to send a mayday to enable yourself to get down quickly before something really bad happens.
Declaring a May Day tells the tower that you have major problems and you can instantly get priority treatment if you request it. Trying to land with full fuel is not an option in some transport category aircraft. They can take off heaver than they can land, so they head out fly a holding pattern and burn or dump fuel till they are light enough to land.
@Slashfan90210 engine to explode? the engines dont explode mate. they are all made to contain any event within the engine so it can be shutdown. a 747 had an engine failure after takeoff from new york and flew all the way to england on 3 engines completely fine. on one engine u can either hold rudder in to correct or trim the rudder. they didnt want to get down quickly because there t/o mass was above the lm mass so they had to stay up and burn fuel or jettison some before landing. u = bs mate
@ramboormark no. not that long ago, maybe 2 years ago, an SAS flight had ice injected into the engine and the engine exploded. it made a crash landing in a forest.
@ollerverh No, they didnt explode. Both of those engines shut down, but they didnt explode. Engine failure where parts of engine break away are very rare.
y are people goin on sayin its was nt a mayday and was only 1 engine. incase u didnt notice that pilot has 200+ lives on his hands. the engine cud ov done anyfin, it cud have completley blown of the aircraft and distorted the wing and such. the thing is u never kno.
Indeed, a birdstrike resulting in an engine failure is a mayday call. However, I hate the way the news reporters make a drama out of it - it is a standard procedure to fly a Boeing 757 on one engine, something the pilots have done hundreds of times on the simulator. It is nothing that proposes direct danger to life.
Cockpit fire would be something by far more serious...
The Crew handled it well, but it is their Profession, one would expect them to be able to handle such a situation.
Weather (sic) you know about Mayday calls is irrelevant to me, I didn't mention anything about weather (sic) it could fly on one engine but a mayday call stems from the French for "M'aide" meaning "help me" and as a trained airline pilot I will only use Mayday in dire circumstances when we CANNOT fly and a Pan pan call in matters of urgency. This engine was NOT even on fire, although one can see flames. Engine failure is NOT a mayday call, and I never call a Mayday on my simulator check rides.
its very relevant. Mayday means imminent danger to life. There is no imminent danger to life with an engine failure in a jet aircraft. You sound a little bit confused with small piston powered aircraft, its different in the airliners.
I agree, he's calling mayday, but is retracting his gear, climbing and going off to Wallasey - Declaring a PanPan would have been better, then upgrade the call if necessary.
But at the end of the day its only relevant if there is another mayday going on, as he would have had priority over everybody else anyway, as he had declared an emergency.
I was on that flight but i got off half way's to wallasey
mike86183 3 weeks ago
My cousin was on this flight she is an air hostess with thomson
SophieEB91 1 month ago
did i hear "northbound towards wallasey"
Xorue 1 month ago
Herons ? Acutually a single Carrion crow!
landroversrs1 1 year ago
wonder how many of them were willing to fly again
MilesProwerTails 1 year ago
it wasn't a bird strike, it was Chuck Norris grabbing a free ride to Lanzarote.....
poolking01 1 year ago 2
I was the pilot on that day and without the co-pilot, I really don't think we could of managed that landing. Thank you Mark Evans
ThomsonFlyPilot757 1 year ago 2
@ThomsonFlyPilot757
liar!
ZzRvXzZ 4 months ago
This video is on many sites with a slo-mo addition of the bird strike and more tower comms (the pilot is told Liverpool is available to land at too). I was at MAN the other week and a Qatar jet suffered a birdstrike upon landing. I watched as a Jet2 and a Thomson/Thomas Cook (can't remember which) aborted their landings while a woman drove onto the runway and picked up bits of the bird, whilst the two jets circled around before landing
masere 1 year ago
Those plans are incredibly safe. I love how they can fly with just one engine.
camy205 1 year ago
I watched this on the news that day
mrlittleluke123 1 year ago
lol 1:25 a random thomas cook flashes past :D
LiveByTheCreed2010 1 year ago
I went to lanzarote 2 years ago, i used Monarch airlines instead. What happened? did they survive? i dont have sound so if they mentioned it in the video then i didn't hear it.
samsterdahamster 1 year ago
Air scanners in the UK ARE illegal, however the police do not usually enforce this law as long as you are only listening for personal entertainment and not being any source of threat.
Also, it would be a bad idea to land on that amount of fuel with only one engine, as need for a go around would require more engine power, which would make the plane sheer to the right very quickly if you weren't very careful. Also it just makes more sense to burn some fuel before you land. I'm no expert however :)
GMuzicc 1 year ago
@GMuzicc Scanners aren't illegal and never have been, tuning them into Police frequencies was illegal but there was no way the Police could find out who was listening in. The Police have used a truncated radio system for a few years now which you won't be able to earwig but you can still get all the rest. If they would have been illegal you wouldn't have been able to go to any radio store and buy on off the shelf.
kingpav 2 months ago
poor birds.
BentleyWiseTurtle 1 year ago
to burn off fuel are you fucking kidding lol he would have to go around to land you daft twat if he shuts the engin down its not going to burn off fuel. i think the hes was tinking about saving the passengers not panicing about fuel.
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AviationNewsToday 2 years ago
i'm scared now, lol..i'm also going with thomson
CombatKidz 2 years ago
oh my god imagine being sat near the window next to the engine and you see it bursting out fire! lol! i would be getting the bog roll out my suitcase in a flash
angelofdarkness49 2 years ago
fpmsl
danlee1234 2 years ago
I Would Crap Myself !
Haha Poor Birds !
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lollinlolz 2 years ago
"No One Was Hurt"
What about the birds :/ lol
lee4marshall94 2 years ago 4
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Who gives a flying fuck lol
Bucketheadhead 2 years ago
2 herons
nkindon 2 years ago
on another video it said a crow was sucked in.
blackout1148 3 years ago
and scanners are illegal but they say it on the tv
TranceMan1818 3 years ago
Only in some places. It is not actually illegal to use a scanner in the UK
Dudeboy4000 2 years ago
only illegal if you act on the information that you recieve from them.
concorde216 2 years ago
1 bird
manovleedz 3 years ago
Well a lots of pilots here! Haha
At first i suggest to all of u to take a pilot exam. Then if all of u became a pilot next training is landing a jet stricktly with one engine.
I almost forget about learning couple of years being a pilot.
If these done I think u can discuss this Mayday,PanPan problem(very very big problem) next to beer in the pub.
Good luck!
tesenki 4 years ago
A good level of primary school English would also be advantageous!
cgfatcat81 2 years ago
@salem61
it's still better to declare mayday..just to be sure
jeffreygoddijn 4 years ago
Isnt pan pan pan used in extreme circumstances?
Dudeboy4000 2 years ago
no. pan pan pan is a minor problem. it isn't as serious as a mayday mayday mayday.
mcgregs10 2 years ago
ahhh i see :)
Cheers
Dudeboy4000 2 years ago
thats making me nervous about going on a airoplane 4 my hliday soon :'(
lozzy170 4 years ago
what is the Aircraft Registration?
meggydanny 4 years ago
g-byaw
carlsberg10 3 years ago
Normally a Maday call sent after the loss of an engine and if there is no fire the call can be degraded to a Pan Pan, after completing the shut down.
salem61 4 years ago
...and nobody cares about that poor birdie;-)
Sturzi 4 years ago
i would be more concerned about the hundreds of people inside then plane, rather then the stupid bird that caused the problem in the first place.
teedot 4 years ago 3
People seem to be missing out that a bird strike is taken seriously. When RR, GE etc test their engines, they actually throw pigeons into the turbine, even something as small as a sparrow could cause the engine to probably explode. Flying on just one engine is a hard thing to do, and when you've got 200+ lives on board, you'd have to send a mayday to enable yourself to get down quickly before something really bad happens.
Slashfan90210 4 years ago 9
Declaring a May Day tells the tower that you have major problems and you can instantly get priority treatment if you request it. Trying to land with full fuel is not an option in some transport category aircraft. They can take off heaver than they can land, so they head out fly a holding pattern and burn or dump fuel till they are light enough to land.
shinden58 4 years ago 3
yeah ok, Pigeons and Sparrows are OK, but lets try throwing an Ostrich in the engine!!
turbotraker 4 years ago
@Slashfan90210 engine to explode? the engines dont explode mate. they are all made to contain any event within the engine so it can be shutdown. a 747 had an engine failure after takeoff from new york and flew all the way to england on 3 engines completely fine. on one engine u can either hold rudder in to correct or trim the rudder. they didnt want to get down quickly because there t/o mass was above the lm mass so they had to stay up and burn fuel or jettison some before landing. u = bs mate
ramboormark 9 months ago 3
@ramboormark no. not that long ago, maybe 2 years ago, an SAS flight had ice injected into the engine and the engine exploded. it made a crash landing in a forest.
ollerverh 7 months ago
@ollerverh No, they didnt explode. Both of those engines shut down, but they didnt explode. Engine failure where parts of engine break away are very rare.
Pvjinflight 4 months ago
y are people goin on sayin its was nt a mayday and was only 1 engine. incase u didnt notice that pilot has 200+ lives on his hands. the engine cud ov done anyfin, it cud have completley blown of the aircraft and distorted the wing and such. the thing is u never kno.
M4TTD0GG 4 years ago
what toss you are saying !!! grow up
Wazzawah 3 years ago
The fire on engine 2 would be from repeated compressor stalls, as hot gases are re-ingested by the engine
chrisegcconline 4 years ago 2
Indeed, a birdstrike resulting in an engine failure is a mayday call. However, I hate the way the news reporters make a drama out of it - it is a standard procedure to fly a Boeing 757 on one engine, something the pilots have done hundreds of times on the simulator. It is nothing that proposes direct danger to life.
Cockpit fire would be something by far more serious...
The Crew handled it well, but it is their Profession, one would expect them to be able to handle such a situation.
AirMalta89 4 years ago 2
swiss air 111 declared pan pan pan when they had smoke in the cockpit!
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michaelpece 4 years ago
see the whole video @ flightlevel350com
wait till the end, it zooms in on the birds and shows when the birds get sucked into the engine
TomB773 4 years ago
see the whole video @ flightlevel350com
TomB773 4 years ago
please don't joke, I can tell you myself, was an extremely scary experience but hats of to pilots and crew, handled superbly!
GIRLFROMMARS85 4 years ago 2
"was an extremely scary experience" Am I to believe you were actually on this flight?
HoustonRocket101 4 years ago
Nicely done, I only hope we can all emulate their performance if it happens to us. Well done to all the crew and trainers at TOM.
topjetboy 4 years ago
I wouldn't have called a Mayday I think a Panpan call would have been sufficient. I dislike the "close to disaster" comment from the newsreader...
TwoBitBob 4 years ago
Engine failure is a mayday.. Weather or not the plane can fly with just one engine is totally irrelevent!
adamcookie 4 years ago 4
Weather (sic) you know about Mayday calls is irrelevant to me, I didn't mention anything about weather (sic) it could fly on one engine but a mayday call stems from the French for "M'aide" meaning "help me" and as a trained airline pilot I will only use Mayday in dire circumstances when we CANNOT fly and a Pan pan call in matters of urgency. This engine was NOT even on fire, although one can see flames. Engine failure is NOT a mayday call, and I never call a Mayday on my simulator check rides.
TwoBitBob 4 years ago
its very relevant. Mayday means imminent danger to life. There is no imminent danger to life with an engine failure in a jet aircraft. You sound a little bit confused with small piston powered aircraft, its different in the airliners.
toranamunter 4 years ago
I agree, he's calling mayday, but is retracting his gear, climbing and going off to Wallasey - Declaring a PanPan would have been better, then upgrade the call if necessary.
But at the end of the day its only relevant if there is another mayday going on, as he would have had priority over everybody else anyway, as he had declared an emergency.
mruppity64 4 years ago
He's a pilot, I think he knows what he's doing.
ThePianoMusicGuy 4 years ago 18
Well done to the two pilots who handled it... That's what we train for lads!
elpiloto69 4 years ago
perhaps a couple of urban-depressive emo-birds with suicidal tendencies? hehe
razorfoundation 4 years ago
That must've been scary... ouch!
ogoid79 4 years ago